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My RfA

Hi, Moondyne, and thanks for your participation in my RfA. I've withdrawn it, and will be writing up an "analysis" of it, which will soon be available at User:Giggy/RfA/Giggy when it's done. Please come around when you get the chance, and give me feedback on how I can improve. Thanks again, Giggy _U^CP 04:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Rabbit Proof Fence

Good on you Moondyne...I think that's the best option at present as I said on the Talk page but was too lazy to do myself! Regards Sterry2607 05:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

User page

hmmm Satu Suro 06:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

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Coords

If it's Australian:

http://www.ga.gov.au/map/names
Key in place name and any limiters (if necessary) eg [1]
Click on the desired result (usually SUB or LOCB) eg [2]
Decimal numbers on right hand side are correct ones (the degree/minute ones for some reason are nearly always rounded down, so can be unreliable)

Hope this helps :) Orderinchaos 16:45, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

My way with finding New Zealand coords involves a street directory, a magnifying glass, satellite mapping software and careful guesswork. Does that count as a secret? :P (I suppose the only thing missing is a magic piece of string, but I don't have one.) Orderinchaos 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Cats

There are four pretty ones waiting for your return on my talk page :) Twenty Years 02:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Informal editor review

Can I get your views on my contributions and how you think I could improve them? I would appreciate all input. Thank you very much! Auroranorth 10:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Merger

Hey, can we merge the lists (per talk). It is quite ridiculous. Ive actually noticed that some states have schools in (capital city) and schools in (state). I feel this is duplication, can we just merge the 2 lists into WA, and provide a redirect frm Perth to the WA one? Twenty Years 08:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I think i might have to withdraw that, its probarbly going to get up a few noses, and the length of the list will be a serios issue. The EDU dept page is ~20 pages, it would be a massive wiki file. Twenty Years 08:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

An alternative is that i would create a list of Primary/Secondary schools (2 articles) to take length out of the equation. Twenty Years 08:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Tranby House

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Template talk:Age in years and days

If you get a chance, can you please take a look at the Talk Page for Template talk:Age in years and days where I asked some questions about Invalid Dates? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro 20:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC))

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Artofcricketcd-rom.jpg)

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Img is in a sandbox article. —Moondyne 01:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Aus, Oz, Os, Oops

([3]). Thanks. I'm embarrassed. --Dweller 10:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

appreciate the support, really appreciate it Dan arndt 08:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Bots

Glad to know someone else has the same arguements with bots that images in sandbox articles are not orphaned (Orphaned non-free image (Image:Artofcricketcd-rom.jpg)) - shame bots don't seem to listen. Dan arndt 08:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Possible vandalism

Have had a look at Special:Contributions/74.100.165.41 particularly [4]. The user is correct in that Garden of the Arcane Delights is not an album but was released as a 12" record and later re-released as an EP - no vandalism there Dan arndt 02:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Speers Point, New South Wales

Thank you for removing the red-link picture on this page. I have downloaded WorldWind and am obtaining an image from it now. Hesperian noted that we need to only obtain USGS-made photos, as the others would likely be copyrighted. Thanks! Auroranorth 08:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Resolution extremely bad, I'll likely use a Google Earth map but with the copyright down the bottom 'NASA' (U.S. Government PD), similar to startup image. Auroranorth 08:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but

Thanks for the support, but i do have permission to use such image from Christian Komnick who is the Grpahic artist at the WACA. This is regarding the image, Trentsteenholdt.jpg—Preceding unsigned comment added by Steene101 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania 2008

Hey! I'm contacting all the members of wikiproject Perth because, I have put in an incomplete bid for Perth to hold Wikimania 2008. Please show your support by adding your name to the list and help contribute by improving our bid which is incomplete and located here - thanks Talk to symode09's or How's my driving? 18:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Reminder

Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/3 is next sunday 19th August, if you haven't already please sign on the meetup page if your coming, if your still unsure indicate anyway so I can confirm numbers with the venue thankyou Gnan garra 00:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Cyclic Defrost

Whilst I don't have a particular strong view on whether Cyclic Defrost should be included on Template :Australianmusic I find it curious that one of the main supporters is Fortunegrey who's only contributions appear to be on the Cyclic Defrost article or providing links on other musical articles to Cyclic Defrost. Is it my suspicious nature but could he possible be a Cyclic Frost contributor and hence why is pushing it be included. As previously stated nobody I know in music in Western Australia or South Australia is familar with Cyclic Defrost - probably 'cause its circulation is only 5.000 copies and released three times a year. Dan arndt 08:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

That contributor is a SPA. I also don't have a particularly strong view regarding the inclusion of CD on the template, except that it is too large already. These maxi-templates seem to be everywhere and the people who keep enlarging them seem to be missing the point of what they're there for. ie. a navigation aid. Articles should link usefully, not spamfully. They uglify the prose. Another shocker is Template:Indigenous Australians. —Moondyne 09:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Pardon my ignorance but what's a SPA? Dan arndt 09:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair call, hadn't read the COI provisions, will keep that in mind - your call on the page. Fortunegrey 01:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Revert

Hello Moondyne

How come you reverted my undo to restore the picture? I know OIC removed a couple of things. I'm going to go ahead and return the picture and pending more inspection, the timezones later, if approved. Auroranorth 14:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Isn't WP:CRUFT simply an essay? I'll agree with you on overimportance, though. Auroranorth 14:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Sir John Lavan

Hey, made an article on this guy in sandbox 5. Former judge of the Supreme Court, given that by definition he is notable as a SC judge, although by references, he probably isnt notable. There appears to be a blurr here on notability. Twenty Years 15:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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Julian Grill

We hear about him on the news all the time, what about le wiki...ive got some articles from the West on him, there should be stacks on the net too.Twenty Years 08:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I have made the article in box5 for you to look at before posting. Cheers. Twenty Years 09:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I think ive got a pretty fair balance between the controversies, all referenced, to me - a solid stub. I have posted it into wiki-space. Any probs. msg me Twenty Years 12:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

You could give me some suggestions as to how to set up an archive for my Talk area as it is starting to get a bit unwieldy - thanks Dan arndt 00:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I attempted to do it myself but I think I stuffed up - appreciate your assistance.Dan arndt 04:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

How did you get the 'nifty' looking filing cabinet icon? Dan arndt 05:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Excellent!!! that looks way cool! thanks for all your help Dan arndt 06:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Once again thanks for the assist & advice Dan arndt 00:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

MP's

If you want, leave a list of stubs on current/former WA MP's you want in Sandbox 4, ill make them and post them. Twenty Years 08:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ko-hyoteki Sydney.jpg

Absolutely right. When I first started uploading AWM images I thought I'd be nice, but they really don't have a leg to stand on, legally speaking. Grant | Talk 09:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Justin Langer

Thanks for making that page's photos look a little more respectable. The page looks a lot tidier than it used to now. If you could, could you put an image of Langer in action on to that page? It's the only thing that's missing. Again, thanks for doing those realignments.

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Artofcricketcd-rom.jpg)

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db-orphaned tag removed as there is now a new article The Art of Cricket. —Moondyne 09:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Hale School

Could you please look at the edits today to the Hale School page, im not sure whether it should be deleted or not, so i thought id ask you for your opinion on it. Cheers. Twenty Years 11:11, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Y Done Yeah while it made the news in the history of the school its really isnt a notable event. Gnan garra 11:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Agree with removal. Text was copied off the PLC article and has been there for some time. I recall a mini edit war over that a year or so ago and I think on balance we decided that its just notable there, but certainly not at Hale. —Moondyne 13:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Opinions - please

Richard Roach Jewell, if you havent already noticed I've been expanding this one. I've covered upto the point where he replaces Austin. Thinking I'll focus his article on Colonial School(1852-54), Government House(1859-63) this got an interesting side story on how he altered James Manning's designs. The barracks I'll cover as they no longer exist and the arch article should stay focused on that. The town hall is another Jewell/Manning design compromise. The ones I'm not sure of are Roebuck Residency prefabricated design, Cloisters(as yet no article). Then other places like Perth Gaol, Deanery, Trinity Church, Wesley Church, Old Masonic lodge, Toodyay gaol, Roebourne and greenough police stations, Our Ladys college will get a passing mention. Two other major works original Perth train station(since demolished) and his last major work the Treasury buildings(too many differing designers) I need more information about before any thing other than a passing mention. Gnan garra 12:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

No Poole, the rest all worked on the east coast(inc tas and SA) Gnan garra 14:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

James Manning thanks for that, I've gone back and fixed the redirects Gnan garra 23:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Deleted. Nicer one is on the article now. —Moondyne 02:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Cape to Cape Track

I have today stumbled across your comments about my contribution to the Cape to Cape Track article. Over the next few weeks I will try to act on them.

However, I can't work out how to show that some of the content of the article also appears in books about the Track that I have published

Regards

RayForma 05:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

TRwiggy

Yeah well I just went back to a whole lot of oz crim cats that i hadnt tagged properly - so i can cast stones in my court as well :) Satu Suro 07:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Well almost :( Satu Suro 07:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Well a really good one is the england/london projects - there are more red discussion tags than there are holes in the albert hall (viz john lennons song) Satu Suro 07:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

As for the notability issue - henrietta has zilch (which i find very interesting) and the google obvious suggests a lack of suitable third party that is not in some way connected - interesting aspect of notability versus.... there are stories in the eastern suburbs junk mail reporter - but whether they ever had the presence of mind to keep tabs of their public image/press presence is anybodys guess - those that i know do not seem particularly astute at keeping record of the tribulations with their local council. It is out there - but whether they.... Satu Suro 07:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Don Bradman picture

Just out of interest why did you take the photo of the Don Bradman statue off his page and onto Wikipedia Commons? Couldnt you have just left it on the page? I am not all that bothered, just wondering what your reasoning behind it was. All the best Cls14 17:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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James Mitchell

May need some of the links to the other politicans and places put in but I'll leave that to you history buffs. You may also want to format the page a little better than I have done Dan arndt 06:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Jill Perryman

Here is a good starting point for any article on Jill Perryman. It is a fairly basic bio but relatively comprehensive. Dan arndt 06:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Your list

You should do something with it [User:Moondyne/Australia related article statistics] - Satu Suro 08:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Le Don

Hi. Have you got some time to have a look and comment on the article, its had heaps of work to get it down to size and fix the refs. Think we can fit this [5] in? Cheers Phanto282 14:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK August 22

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Thank You

You are very generous - I am really astonished to see your support of what some would have subsumed into Cue - may you have a very good day! Satu Suro 00:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Cripes maybe you might have the dosh on the wreck as well?? Satu Suro 00:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Which is why i put the disambig page up Satu Suro 05:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC) (day dawn)

Bot

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WP B-E

I have made a surprise for you in my sandbox5, i know its notable, it has a fellow pedian in it :) Twenty Years 16:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Id agree with the redundancy. OK, here is my rationale for notability (aside from the multiple Reliables in ext links: The old-premiers seat, 11 candidates (one of the highest in WA ever - nedlands had eight), major battles with the in the factions (left, right, centre) of the ALP, lowest voter turnout in a by-election since the 30's. In terms of notability in Marrickville, the only thing that makes it notable is that it was the deputy-premiers seat! yet this has a premiers seat, with some other quite wierd occurances. Twenty Years 04:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Comprised, composed, consisted

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Re: AU sports WikiProjects

My, that was a long time ago now :)

I'd say that, yes, too much water has passed under the bridge. Unless, of course, it was proposed to be brought back as a taskforce, but I still think that'd be a hard sell. Unfortunately, in my opinion, we've allowed too many projects to set up separately under WP:AUS, weakening the effectiveness of the hierarchy. The most recent examples of this being the Australia band projects (eg, WP:POWDERFINGER).--cj | talk 00:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

School Template Deletion

I would like to nominate this template for deletion. It is a template for a school song, which by school standards is the number one way to spot cruft. Thoughts? Twenty Years 10:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

If you get a chance, can you nuke Sandbox 5 please? Twenty Years 13:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I am about to send you an email, please check it in 10 mins. Twenty Years 13:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Email sent, and btw. Thanks for the nuke. Twenty Years 14:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied by email. —Moondyne 14:12, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Bess

:) Same place it always was, try googling it.

I am yet to plod through the key work, but take her out mate - we are not married. Just on the quiet though, she might be playing for the other team. ^{[citation needed]} Cygnis insignis 14:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that's a shame. I'd been looking forward to her debut and have made another inbound link. —Moondyne 23:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

:p Cygnis insignis 01:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[Cheers from the crowd] Floats, but heavier than a swan. Burn the theosophist! Cygnis insignis 01:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I noticed, better than my planned ramble. A much repeated image from the West, really belongs to the public - in all fair-useness. I have to read Davison now ... grumble, grumble. Cygnis insignis 01:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Nice one. I confess to wishing you had done the Health Act (1914), I can never find the cites for these things. Bennett next. Cygnis insignis 01:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

editcountitis

Interesting to compare our edit counts right at the moment. Hesperian 13:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thats creepy. Have you seen http://gtools.org/tool/wikipedia-edit-counter/ — Moondyne 13:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I confess to having held a degree of perverse pride in being the most prolific W.A. editor. But like the rest of humankind, I find that the most efficient way to maintain a healthy self-image is to adjust my expectations to match my achievements, rather than the other way around. Thus it now matters not that you have a few more Wikipedia edits than me, so long as I remain 6000 edits ahead of you across all the other projects. If I ever overtake you again, it may become important to me again. ;-)

Actually I suspect OIC may be Murali to your Warne.

Yep.

Hesperian 06:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy Father's Day. —Moondyne 06:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

And you. Hesperian 06:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Who am I kidding? Certainly not me ;-) Hesperian 02:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL! Mind you 1,500 odd of mine came from reverting that (now banned) person's mass changes to Australian templates, while quite a few thousand would have been ratings and AWB fixes which I've now relegated to a second account (the ingeniously hidden User:Orderinchaos 2.) Orderinchaos 05:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

completely forgot to say so to you both - hope it was a good one - fthers day that is - and editcountitis absent during it :) Satu Suro 13:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Bit like the bragging about the marbles in the school yard i think - i am not sure the time i used to have for editing will ever return - have just struck a form of metaphorical gold that has nothing at all to do with anything to do with wikipedia that might soak up a bit of time for a while. who knows. one never does. cheers Satu Suro 13:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Ron Davies

For some reason I missed your comment on this - good point! Thanks, I'll take it into account, although not sure what the name should be? Ron Davies (Western Australian politician) seems a bit unwieldy but could work. Orderinchaos 05:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) Oh, and "I Am A Liberal Lover" has probably got to be the worst campaign slogan ever. Even if it did win Charles Court his first election in 1974. Orderinchaos 07:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

User warranting warnings

Lancelot222 has exceeded my realms of power regarding his contributions to Sound masking. He is continuously vandalising the page, ignoring my warnings. I will give him a third warning for another instance of vandalism. Auroranorth 12:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

FA stats

I've taken the liberty of updating your stats at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations which was out of date for some reason. It does now get updated by a bot I see, so perhaps the original take-up was faulty. —Moondyne 02:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, but the title says nominations not authorship. Anyone can nominate an article for FA, even if they haven't contributed to the article themselves. I suspect that would be the case for many of the most highly ranked editors.

Although I'm happy to claim my fair share of authorship of Yagan and B. brownii, Snottygobble nominated the former and Gnangarra nominated the latter, so you can see why the bots haven't credited me with those. This would probably explain your own absence from the list, despite having co-authorship in Yagan and Sydney Riot of 1879, nommed by Snottygobble and jguk respectively. Hesperian 05:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

As you wish. Hesperian 06:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I wasn't obfuscating re: Snottygobble; just being cutesy. Doesn't suit me, I know. Hesperian 06:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Had a crack at DYK for the first time in heaven knows how long.[6] Hesperian 12:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Richard Driver

Yes they keep calling him Richard Driver Junior, but senior does not seem to have been particularly significant.--Grahamec 14:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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UDR

Very impressed by the profile - all we need to do is uncover the early intriguing history of the canning mills railway stuff and it might start looking like a reasonable art - i think i might have access to similar profiles for the mundaring loop and the national park diversion - but not in the short term - anyways - thank you it looks great! Satu Suro 10:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review

I want to start a peer-review of Aquinas. Ive taken the article as far as I can, using the past peer reviews, and all three failed featured article candidates. Ive asked for help from external people, and got some. I think that the article needs a peer-review to help get it to A-Class. So I am requesting that you allow me to start a peer review. Twenty Years 14:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Education in Australia

I want to start a Wikiproject entitled "Education in Australia", which is basically going to be setup to help deal with the large amounts of cruft, and the general poor quality of articles relating to education in Australia. Ive asked another experienced editor of school articles in Aus, and got their full support. I must note that there is also a Wikiproject Education in Canada. I'll leave this open for you to consider. Twenty Years 12:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It will be a short while until i get the project fully up and running, ive drafted the main page in my sandboxes. Cheers for the support. Twenty Years 13:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I have emailed you regarding an AfD. Twenty Years 08:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Robert J White

Hi! Please reconsider your vote to delete the article since I do have a copy of the press release at http://www.loopaustralia.com/Director%20Announcement.pdf - it is not hosted on their site (or I oculd not find it) but, that is the media Press release. please reconsider, thanks 203.59.214.40 07:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009

As a Wikipedian in WA I would like to invite you to edit the unofficial bid at Meta-Wiki, following informal consultation with Hesperian, so we can collaborate as a community. Thanks, Auroranorth 10:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Historia naturalis palmarum

That's a bit out of left field for you isn't it? I was very surprised to see your name in the history. Is there a back story? Hesperian 12:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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List of birds

Looks good - I hope to find more on the Kala rail stuff - I know I have seen something quite comprehensive some time back - just cannot put my finger on it Satu Suro 23:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Explorers' Monument

I thought I noticed something odd about the monument, a detail - of a detail - in an image gave my suspicions some substance. Would you care to help resolve a small mystery? There might be another para to add. Cygnis insignis 00:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Clue : temp image. Could be some joker?! Cygnis insignis 00:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Emailed them, I'll see if I can get his own e.mail address. Otherwise I will have dig through the records to find the commissioning of the work. Cygnis insignis 02:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Deletions

Can i get permission to start some AfD's on basically all of the Lists in that category except for the state/territory ones? do you have any exceptions. Regarding that discussion, it was on the talk page, but i didnt add the merge template and as such the convo got no real input, and failed to produce anything constructive. Twenty Years 07:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

replied to your comment on my talk. Twenty Years 08:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

replied to your comment on my talk. Twenty Years 08:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

user talk: Grizzlybear82

Please don't add crap to my talk page again. I don't remember asking for your opinion. Grizzlybear82 00:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Western Shield

I can see a poorly written and poorly referenced article there - definitely needs a re-write in parts - one reason i didnt instantly do a see also to it Satu Suro 01:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey - thanks for that - hadnt asked you specifically for it but it needed it - btw found my 1979 bibbulman track guide and have inserted some more info there as well Satu Suro 05:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Lists

Agreed... IMO either there should be a single list, or an article on Education in Western Australia giving a decent history and context linking to external lists (DET and AIS probably). What I was meaning re G6 was to reduce the two lists to one, as the two do not cross-match at the moment and deleting either of them leaves i's undotted and t's uncrossed. Orderinchaos 03:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Notable Rhodes Scholars

I have finished constructing "the table" on Notable Rhodes Scholars, altered Rhodes Scholarship accordingly, and removed my irrelevant crap from Talk:Rhodes Scholarship#Notables. Would you mind having a look at Notable Rhodes Scholars please? (A "sanity check" would be appreciated!) Cheers, Pdfpdf 04:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Replying at Talk:Notable Rhodes Scholars. —Moondyne 06:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Uncovering all those untagged arts - whoopee its of to tagging i go! cheers - trust you didnt see my embarrass at belmont park - plan to develop separate from burswood swamp art Satu Suro 02:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh well thanks for that :) - Satu Suro 02:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

And that (chem centre) Satu Suro 12:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:World Series Cricket logo.svg)

Thanks for uploading Image:World Series Cricket logo.svg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Fixed - was part of my Inkscape training program ;) —Moondyne 04:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

WSC

Re: Yagmich: [7]

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Template

Ah, I see what happened - we both did the same edit one after the other - I didn't even notice at the time that you had edited. All good now :)--Melburnian 12:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Perth Railway Map.svg

Yes, I discovered the joys of Inkscape :) I originally created the railway maps in Paint Shop Pro, and the only vector format that can save is Windows Metafile. And Inkscape can't import that, so I ended up saving greyscale PNGs of each layer, and tracing the contours to import it to Inkscape. Unwieldy, yes. Hopefully, the vector outline of Perth will be useful to people to make other maps, though it's not perfect (nor expansive). - Mark 16:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Serventy

Managed to pick up his memoirs unexpectedly for all of $6 at ECU Bookshop today. Should be an interesting read. Also managed to borrow "In Firm Hands", a pretty solid account of the 1977 state election, and a book about Geraldton and the 2001 election. Also now have photocopies of Australian Political Chronicles from 1969 to 1984, and a heap of journal articles (one quite amusing one from the Current Affairs Bulletin in 1965 titled "Perth", giving outsiders a look at our city as it was at that time - may be useful for fixing Perth...) Will be interesting to see what emerges out of all this reading. Orderinchaos 06:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

Thanks for your help with the Wikipedia Assessment board on EiA. Much appreciated. Cheers. Twenty Years 08:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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The Someloves

I was hoping that you could help me as one of the articles I have posted has recently had a copyright voilation notice posted on it and I cannot for the life of me work out how this article is a copyright violation as it doesn't resemble the reference cited 'All Music Guide' at all - the basic facts are the same but thats only becuase they are historical and not in dispute. If there was anythign that even faintly represented a copyright violation of that reference I would be happy to correct it but I honestly can't work it out. I was going to put in some references to the quotes used in the article but find myself unable and the article about to be deleted. Is there some process that I can question the posting of the copyright violation notice? Dan arndt 05:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Appreciate all of your (combined) assistance - I just wasn't certain of the 'formal' process as its the first time thats happened to me & didn't want to get myself into any strife. Dan arndt 06:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Moondyne - I really appreciate all your edits to the article - looks great.Dan arndt 00:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Stats

I'd never seen that before. Interesting. You've been updating it by hand? We could use it somewhere I'm sure. -- Longhair\^talk 07:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this, Ian. I remember seeing something similar at WP:MILHIST and thinking it'd be interesting to see what our tagging progress is like. Regards, --cj | talk 15:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Daytona coupe

Can you please help with the addition of the engine pictures (mentioned in the talk section of the daytona coupe page I've been working on)? Sodfijd 01:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Done —Moondyne 02:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

CBC/AC = PSA?

Well, it says members, which implies that they are current, CBC is not, hasnt been since 37', so it doesnt warrant the template. It also isnt even mentioned in the template. Then there is the school of thought that says that in the eyes of the PSA, AC is CBC (as in how it took its membership, and the meeting minutes which ive quoted earlier). Take which one you like, it doesnt belong there. There was also growing criticism of the number of templates at the bottom of that particular page. Twenty Years 10:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

In fact, it originally had the seven schools, i added CBC and it was eventually removed. Im just trying to follow the comments/improvements that are placed on the talk page. Twenty Years 10:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Banner

It was already there - re cats see my efforts at Antarctica project for template cleanup - oh to know the code :( Satu Suro 11:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks!

Thanks for your participation for my RFA bid and for your support.--JForget 23:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Speers Point, New South Wales

Could you please review this? It is of GA standard, I believe, but I cannot submit it to WP:GAC because of my unblock conditions. Auroranorth 14:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, hold up. I need to include education. Auroranorth 14:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I would like to request a peer review, then I would like to send the article to GA. I am also about to begin admin coaching, however I would not like to be nominated until December 2007/January 2008, because of the recent block. Any other tips you'd like to give? I have improved my edit summary usage: 100% for September. Auroranorth 09:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

What do you think about that? Again, any other tips you'd like to give regarding my performance? Auroranorth 11:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, of course. About 12 months, I can see that this could be flexible. I am looking at late January 2008-March at the earliest. You are welcome to give me those tips (for adminship) later on, but what about right now? How do you think I should go about regaining my credability? Of course, if I were to have a really good rest-of-the-year, the late January date may not be impossible. Auroranorth 12:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

And I am completing the admin coaching program, and will do so, but not accept nominations until next year. Auroranorth 12:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Can I request permission to edit WP:AIV as part of my Recent Changes Patrol 'duties'? It gets a pain when there's an obvious vandal and I can't report it. By the way, I am sending this to all the others, too, just in case you're not around. Auroranorth 12:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Soliciting feedback

Can you look at User talk:Orderinchaos/IAP and tell me what you think of the infobox compared to Hamersley, Western Australia? Orderinchaos 10:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks ... don't actually know how to change the font size, as it's supplied by a css class. I agree it's a little too small personally. Orderinchaos 10:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Mapper

Thanks, I'll look at it soon. Auroranorth 11:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind...

I really liked your box of links on your userpage, and kinda... blatantly ripped it off :) Tell me if you don't want me to and I'll revert :) Take care! ~ Riana ⁂ 01:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincenzo Perrella needs atention - or... Satu Suro 02:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Some 'Special':Contributions for your perusal. Regards - Cygnis insignis 07:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

School Crests

Im looking for permission to upload fair-use images for the crests of schools in Category:Schools in Western Australia, as you may have noticed im adding infoboxes to all schools in WA, i then plan to categorise all articles, and finally add fair use images of the schools crests. Twenty Years 08:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you have a look at my cresty, ill basically use this as a template for all other fair use images. Twenty Years 12:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. —Moondyne 12:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Im going to AfD the Bentleigh West article, is that ok Twenty Years 12:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I've been contemplating WP:CRIQ without success. Regarding Bentleigh, thats fine. —Moondyne 13:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Our Lady of Grace Primary

Looks like a prodder to me, i noticed that you edited it once, so you may think its notable, was just after a yes/no as to whether i should prod the article. Twenty Years 07:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Silver Tree Steiner School

I think this may be a little more contested, can i AfD this one. Twenty Years 11:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

See Talk:Bentleigh West Primary School for my thoughts on this issue, but suggest one as a test case rather than a flood which might be seen as disrespectful to the creators. —Moondyne 12:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Purely because there is no agreement at WP:SCH doesnt mean all school articles should go to AfD. Many school articles are infact being judged largely by WP:ORG and WP:N. Even as a general rule: primary schools arent notable. Twenty Years 12:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Happen to know quite a lot about that one - I think you are barking up an interesting slope - however hesp and moondyne are your checkers - so you have it easy as they probably dont know much about the issues that come from that anyways Satu Suro 15:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Kings Park

When you were there, what suburb were you in? I'm sure there was a discussion about it somewhere, Fraser Ave is given as West Perth in the phone book. "Geographically challenged" 13:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

KP isnt in a LGA burb, KP is a self governing area called Kings Park its all in the article or it was. I better check now I've butted in :) Gnan garra 13:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Since 1999, Kings Park has been administered by the Botanic Gardens and Parks Authority, who also administer Bold Park, and does not come under any Local Government authority its there in the history section. Gnan garra 13:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Botanic Gardens and Parks Authority website [8] says they live in postcode 6005 which is WP. —Moondyne 13:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Ta. I skimmed and searched on words, not the right ones obviously. Cygnis insignis 13:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh!–I missed your reply. I'm asking cos someone is unstubbing WP, I wondering if there is an angle in KP? Cygnis insignis 13:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

In order for an area to be within a locality, it has to meet two conditions - a local authority (i.e. a LGA) has to be responsible for it (this is also a precondition for it being within another locality), and secondly, that LGA has to apply for a name for the area within certain specified boundaries which is then approved by the relevant Committee or Department (nowadays, the Geographic Names Committee). From what I can determine Kings Park has a special status in this regard - it is the only mainland part of Western Australia not to be covered by the jurisdiction of any LGA. However lands at the edges (Mount Street, West Perth, Mounts Bay Road, Perth, and Park Avenue, Crawley) are within other suburbs, and businesses within the Park are addressable by post as Kings Park WA 6005. Strangely the 2006 census regards it as being part of Perth (State Suburb), but this is verifiably false from other reliable sources - a reference I found to the boundaries of Perth, while hard to follow ("to a northern line in prolongation of the western boundary of Lot..."), agrees with the current Streetsmart, and my 1972 MSD and 1995 Streetsmart, both official government publications, drew "suburb" lines around Kings Park long before the application of the 1999 Act. Orderinchaos 17:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I knew he'd say that :) Cygnis insignis 18:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

:) I suppose 6005 is just a flag of convenience. —Moondyne 00:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah its also most like the the person on the little red bike used to work from a shed behind the once existant government service building moving paper like items from there to the tin box in front of buildings in which the now BGPA person create more pieces of paper. Gnan garra 02:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:) The People's Republic of West Perth? :P Would love to see the flag one day. Orderinchaos 03:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Elizabeth Durack

Thank you, Moondyne, for your comment. The piece still has a way to go before it emerges from its current stub status. Powderbark2 04:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Just slightly on the topic with the Durack family article, i got out a book by Mary on some of the early years (the one you prescribed was unavail - its the sequel) btw. Im going to add Kim Durack (we had the notability issue with that article (it has an AdB entry) i plan to include him, should i have an infobox for his section given that he doesnt have an article. I noticed they did a similar thing with the Emerson article, thoughts? Twenty Years 08:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Just another quickie...The sections detailing each person, should just be like a "stub-length", with a link to their main article? Twenty Years 08:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Is Patrick Durack Notable? AdB link i say yes. Thoughts? Twenty Years 12:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I want to make an article on Jeremiah Durack (grandfather of Mary, Elizabeth and Kim), he doesnt have an AdB entry, but it appears he is notable as a European pioneer. Twenty Years 02:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Also think that it might be worth creating one on Ernest Durack, who has an AdB entry. Twenty Years 02:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that this is going to be big ~10 people who are v/notable. Twenty Years 03:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you be able to copy the text from the deleted Kim Durack article into Sandbox10 for me, please? Twenty Years 03:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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The Delamere vineyard is not in the tamar valley but the pipers creek valley further east, i have to get off again for further dads taxi stuff - thanks for the cleaning up of the lonnie area - must tell you some lonnie jokes at the next meetup - cheers Satu Suro 10:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC) Lonnie? - launceston and northern tasmania in west coast tass verbal short hand - also pipers river - see http://www.taswines.net/regions.htm - cheers Satu Suro 11:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)