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Category:Phi Beta Kappa has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Phi Beta Kappa, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Phi Eta Sigma has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Category:Kappa Pi has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Category:Xi Sigma Pi has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Category:Rho Chi has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Updating MSK biographies[edit]

Hi Naraht, I saw you edited the article for Craig B. Thompson awhile ago, and I was curious if you'd be willing to look over some of my proposed changes on the talk page. I'm trying to update and expand the BLPs of their executives, but I've been having trouble finding anyone to review my suggestions given my COI. If you've got the time, could you take a look?--FacultiesIntact (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you! (4 February 2018)[edit]

The Sockpuppet Investigator Barnstar
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Proxy issue[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. Trying to edit Wikipedia while logged in at a Starbucks. Not sure what the issue is.. Naraht (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I'm afraid we can't do anything about a block on an IP address unless you tell us what IP address it is. Please post a new unblock request giving us that information, which will be given in the message you see when you try to edit. Alternatively, if for any reason you prefer not to make your IP address publicly visible, you can request an unblock through the Unblock Ticket Request System. (I also wonder how you know that it isn't an open proxy, since from what you say it isn't your own connection.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:50, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Disambiguation link notification for February 23[edit]

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FLC nomination review[edit]

Hello,

I know you're very active with the fraternity and sorority project, so I wanted to reach out and ask for a review on my FLC with List of Tau Kappa Epsilon brothers. It's been listed for awhile and needs additional reviews.

Thanks, Jmnbqb (talk) 13:24, 4 March 2018 (UTC) Jmnbqb[reply]

Thanks! I responded to comments. Jmnbqb (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing info box on Disability Rag Entry[edit]

You offered to help with the infobox at The Disability Rag. I would like your help. I created one (see my talk page) but it had errors and I am not sure why. I put up the coding on my talk page. Could you please check it and fix it and add it to the entry? Thank you! Mjohnson145 (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure.Naraht (talk) 20:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mjohnson145 What is on the left has to *exactly* match the entry in the template doc. If you pluralize it generally doesn't recognize it. (though some templates will have the plural as a separate entry which may do the same thing or not, for example citation templates that accept either page= or pages=) .Naraht (talk) 20:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock[edit]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. Message: Editing from 69.174.87.0/24 has been blocked (disabled) by GeneralizationsAreBad for the following reason(s): "The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open or anonymizing proxy. To prevent abuse, these proxies may be blocked from editing Wikipedia." I'm editing from home on my own wifi, and was able to edit 14 minutes ago. (I edited Sigma Sigma Sigma at 03:11 EDT, this message showed up at 03:25) and haven't changed my connection. whatsmyip.com says I'm at 69.174.87.132 Naraht (talk) 07:25, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

problem seems to have resolved o its own. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 10:33, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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ipquality score says proxy/vpn--Dlohcierekim (talk) 08:08, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whatmyip says it belong]s to ScanSafe.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 08:12, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

jeez. This happened in February.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 08:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dlohcierekim OK, so why does this happen only *some* of the times I'm connecting from my work laptop? As I indicated, with a gap of 14 minutes without a reconnection on my laptop, I went from being able to edit, not to? And yes, it happened in February, not sure if that indicates more of a problem or less and to what.Naraht (talk) 08:28, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You got me there. I have no idea why this happens sometimes and then it stops. It's weird. Someone who has a greater understanding of the ip range/proxy/vpn technicalities will need to figure this out. Wish I could help, but I'm as dumbfounded as you. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping. I'm glad. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 10:31, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dlohcierekim and now I can edit again.Naraht (talk) 10:23, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:RuPaul's Drag Race. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018[edit]

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New Page Reviewer Flag[edit]

Hi, Naraht.
I've noticed that you are an AfC reviewer but don't yet have the New Page Reviewer flag. Would you please consider heading over to PERM and requesting it? (check the flag requirements HERE)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Playmates of 2017[edit]

Template:Playmates of 2017 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. --woodensuperman 13:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Alpha Phi Omega members[edit]

Hi Naraht. If you use a citation template and don't add a title the page gets flagged up in the Category "Pages with citations using unnamed parameters" and an error message appears in the reference section. You'll find that some people will attempt to fix the problem, myself included. I suggest you have a quick look at the link and you'll see that it is a PDF of a magazine called "Torch & Trefoil" which has as its main heading "National Convention in ’98". If you think there is a better heading, feel free to add it, but simply removing the title has resulted in the error returning. If you need help with referencing please feel free to ask, either directly to me or else in the Tea House. People there do not bite and (well most) are friendly and helpful. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Martin of Sheffield immediately after I reverted, I edited and added in the title from the page of the Torch and Trefoil that actually contained that information (rather than to the article on the front page. I found that I added Coach Wooden to the list back in 1997 (Yes, I've been here that long), but I don't know who added the reference to the current location on apoarchive.org.
OK, I just saw the revert and the error back and assumed a rather shorter editing career. There are a couple of other errors on that page that I didn't get around to fixing at lunch time - would you like to sort them out? Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll give it a try.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Hi, Thanks for the welcome and letting me know about things! I was actually semi-active on wiki a decade ago! However, I was approximately 11 years old and just trying to fix the wiki page for one of my favorite cartoons so we probably didn't remotely interact, but that is cool. I have a couple friends in APO, absolutely great service org. I'll stop by the project. Thanks again! originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 15:44, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm an Alpha Gam, although I have a couple Pi Phi friends. I know about the conflict of interest thing, but I'm pretty sure my additions have made the article more neutral, or at least I'd hope. :) Also, do you know if there's a standardized or general template for GLO article structure? originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 15:51, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools Accreditation[edit]

Please check out the link to Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) website with accreditation confirmation for Virginia International University: http://personify.acics.org/Default.aspx?TabId=204 Hope you find it helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virintuni (talk • contribs) 00:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Virintuni, whether I find it helpful or not, that information needs to be in the article as a reference to a mention that it is accredited to ACICS. See Brookline College for an example.Naraht (talk) 00:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Userficiation of National APIA Panhellenic Association[edit]

Done. Steve Smith (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Barnstar[edit]

The Fraternity/Sorority Barnstar
I think I saw your name in the history of almost every related article. I think you've earned it! Dolotta (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Same-sex unions[edit]

OK, I see my mistake.

I had added it to the main section because it looked that footnote 8 did not have a link to it.

On a second look, there is a link to it in the Civil unions and registered partnerships section. I did not see it because the section is collapsed by default.

Thanks for catching it. JoelRabinovitch (talk) 15:31, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of Alpha Phi Omega chapters (geographical) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Alpha Phi Omega chapters (geographical) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Alpha Phi Omega chapters (geographical) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dolotta (talk) 22:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kappa Alpha Order chapters[edit]

Please do not undo automatic edits that remove links to this deleted list. Such links serve no purpose because there will not be an article there. Thanks, Sandstein 18:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sandstein The article is still here, the *talk* page has been deleted, the AFD is listed as closed but the article is still there. Note in current discussion with original proposer about the article, which means that he should have withdrawn during discussion, but *that* is a separate issue.Naraht (talk) 19:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Because of a technical problem, the article was not immediately deleted, but it is now. Sandstein 19:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sandstein Request userspacing it to me while I deal with the original proposer? (User:Naraht/List of Kappa Alpha Order chapters, please.Naraht (talk) 19:02, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't do undeletions, but somebody at WP:REFUND might. Sandstein 19:05, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sandstein seems odd that a user level has delete but not undelete permissions, but that's an issue for another time.Naraht (talk) 19:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Naraht: Sandstein can undelete just like any other admin; he just doesn't as a matter of choice, and he is not required to do so.
@Sandstein: Those of us who work at WP:REFUND won't unilaterally overturn an AFD without the administrator giving a go-ahead. Simply referring users to WP:REFUND doesn't help us much. Should we assume that your referral of users to WP:REFUND constitutes your acceptance of userfying or draftifying an article you deleted? ~Anachronist (talk) 17:50, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, if admins here consider it prudent to do so (which I generally never do, hence the referral). Sandstein 17:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sandstein: & @Anachronist: Things just hit my watchlist. I find it interesting that a deleted article was moved into draft space when it appears that Naraht already has a copy of the article in question in their user space here. I will probably be stepping WAY back from this issue (probably no more discussion from me on the article in question any time soon). No need to ping me with any response. I've said my two bits and I'm moving on to other things. -- Dolotta (talk) 23:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sandstein:, @Anachronist: and @Dolotta: gotten from Deletionpedia during the back and forth here so that the discussion that I was having with Sandstein could have something to reference. During the AFD, I was trying to get from him (unsuccessfully) what he felt represented enough added material that it no longer met his original reason for the AFD.Naraht (talk) 01:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My views have been made known as clearly, as I am able, on Draft talk:List of Kappa Alpha Order chapters. I have nothing to add. If the article in question had been changed, I would have been more than happy to change my views. I ask, again, that I be left out of this. I asked that I not be pinged because, quite frankly I am tired of discussing this. Naraht, I wish you the best of luck. -- Dolotta (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Francisco Reynés[edit]

Hi Naraht. Some days ago, we talked about this: draft. I've been working on it... Could you review it? This businessman is important because he is Chairman and CEO of one of the top 2,000 public companies in the world by Forbes (#287), and the references show the subject's notability. --ImTheSpaceman (talk) 08:53, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ImTheSpacemanLooks better, have you reached out to either of those who declined you? (First one would probably be better.)Naraht (talk) 09:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Really? Oh, thank you! I have talked with you because you're the only who has helped me. I'll write the first one, but could you approve or accept the Draft?--ImTheSpaceman (talk) 10:33, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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USERNOCAT[edit]

I am working from Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories, but there's no way to quickly turn the whole list into an AWB batch except by manually processing each category one by one. The one you thanked me for was part of a batch of 14 or 15 userpages that were all in the same category, so I created an AWB batch for it so I could power through it more quickly — there were enough pages to deal with in that instance that it was worth taking a few minutes to make an AWB batch for it, but the only way to make it AWBable is to do the manual "load the category in AWB and then filter the results for page type" thing. So it's only worth going that route if you come across a category with a lot of userpages to clean up — the report doesn't really offer a way to generate a downloadable list of all the misfiled content apart from checking each category one by one, and if you find a category with only one or two userpages it's much less efficient to follow all the steps needed to make an AWB batch than it is to just HotCat it. Bearcat (talk) 20:25, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat Thanx, I've worked from the Database reports, but it was rare to see one that large, and so I don't think I ever put together an AWB script. If I had done so, I think it would have simply been a [[Category:Example]] to [[:Category:Example]], using "suppress categories" template for a group seems a fairly difficult. I'm glad to see the report is now down under 1000, I'll try to work from the bottom if I get the chance this week. Also do you have any suggestions that the database report should consider to naturally be polluted and thus report?Naraht (talk) 11:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat Um. I'll be waiting over .....here waiting for next Friday to see what's left. Looking at your contributions page, it looks like you covered most of them and I picked 30 or 40 to look at which were empty. Well done!Naraht (talk) 14:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I covered #1 to #150 and from about #740 down. I haven't tackled anything between between 150 and 740 yet, so if you want to do some those are still needing to be checked (with, of course, the proviso that some of them might have already been cleaned by other people as well.) I'm also relieved that the list is below 1,000 for the first time in ages. Bearcat (talk) 14:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BearcatThanx, I'll start from 750ish and go up, and let you know how far I get by the end of the day.Naraht (talk) 14:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC) (Oddly enough, in looking at what you wrote, the # 1 is in normal type, the # 150 is in a green backgroupd and the # 740 is in a brown one. Wierd). Agreed on glad it is that low. How do you normally set up the big ones for AWB, just add the colon?Naraht (talk) 14:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat Ideas on User:Cards84664? The Utah one comes from the UTA template. Not sure on the other one and wrapping a suppress categories around the entire list gives size problems.Naraht (talk) 15:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Naraht UTA had a category outside of the noinclude css parameter. For the other category, noinclude was also the case for this template, this template, and this template. Everything is as it should be now. Cards84664 (talk) 15:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Cards84664, Thanx! just curious how you knew that I had this issue, I didn't make an actual edit, and I didn't use any of the ping templates...Naraht (talk)
I enabled mention alerts in my preferences, under notifications. Cards84664 (talk) 15:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently I do as well, but I didn't know, so apparently not as many people talk about me behind my back on Wikipedia as I thought. :)Naraht (talk) 16:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat Current Status, worked my way up to the start of the 'T's at 596, *except* for those that start with Category:Templates. I *think* the last 3 need to be allowed to stand (and should be marked as OK to be polluted), but the top 4 have entries that can be fixed, but I wanted your opinion.Naraht (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

One other thing I've noticed, for the record, is that even though Category:Living people didn't get picked up on this week's run because I last cleaned it late enough on Friday that it happened to be empty at the time the report updated, it's one of those categories that has a uniquely unfortunate tendency to collect new userspace pages pretty much daily. So it's a category that should always be checked at least once a day regardless of whether it happens to be on the report or not (and since it's rarely the only category that a new userspace page has been added to, it also has the side benefit of clearing up some other newly polluted categories at the same time.) For example, I just searched it and 13 userpages had been added to it since the report ran on Saturday morning. Bearcat (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And for a status update from my end, I've worked down from 150 to 290, but also 290 through 315 should be blown off for now because they're maintenance categories populated by maintenance templates — technically we should be trying to clear those by wrapping the category-transcluding templates in "Suppress categories" too, but that's a longer-term project which can wait until we've got the primary content categories under better control. There's no technical way to mark any category as "okay to be polluted" — the only thing we can do for any category on the list is either buckle down and clean it, or just accept that it's a permanent speed bump that will always be on the list. And I'm not a fan of tool kludge, personally. Bearcat (talk) 22:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat I'll keep a look out for Category:Living people as well. Note, there does seem to be a way to mark it, see the configuration at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Polluted_categories/Configuration. we can add {{polluted category}} ...Naraht (talk) 03:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat Current status, bottom up to 444.Naraht (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Week of 7/13 version[edit]

Bearcat What section would you like me to work on? Can't tell from your contribution if you are working from top or bottom (or have simply finished)Naraht (talk) 14:58, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I actually got through the whole list already this weekend — despite the number being in the 600s range, what I actually found this time was an abnormally high proportion of categories that either had already been cleared by somebody else before I got to them or were erroneously picked up despite never actually having been polluted at all, so it was really easy to just blaze through them a lot faster than usual. So what I'd suggest in the meantime is to do the "keeping a daily eye on Category:Living people" thing — but when you do load the living people search, also click the checkbox for "draft" and reprocess the search, because draftspace pages have a bad habit of getting added there as well. Bearcat (talk) 15:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat Cool. Seriously Template:Polluted Categories will help with these that we know are bad and should stay bad. I'll keep an eye on Living people as well. The other thing that we can do is see if we can get a version of the list of the top 1000 for Draft space as well. Also, if we really want our dreams, figure out some way to tell if it is one user page in a normally mainspace cat or the other way around.Naraht (talk) 15:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I asked at VPT if there was a way to add a function whereby each category would be coded for "what type of content is this supposed to contain", but I wouldn't say I got a favourable response from anybody who was eager to work on such a thing. I have learned that sometimes you can tell just by eyeballing the category's name, however — for instance, if a "Wikipedians" or "WikiProject" category shows up in the run, I already know those aren't meant for mainspace pages so I should be checking the "main search" instead of the "user search".
In draftspace we already have a partial tool through Category:AfC submissions with categories — but as far as I know that only catches drafts that have actually been submitted to the AFC review queue, not necessarily unsubmitted drafts that are still being worked on, so a "polluted categories" report for draftspace content (whether a separate one or just an addition of draft namespace to the userpage report) would still be useful). Bearcat (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bearcat, sorry that should have been Template:Polluted category , which does exist and that the weekly generated output *does* look for. I think Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories may be a better place to ask for help in a "what type" marking for categories. Still for the draft space a good place to start. Not sure how we can clone the draft version, but the userspace version was improved in the last year, so we can ask that person.Naraht (talk) 16:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Status update as of July 21[edit]

On the new run this morning, I've cleared #1-#76 (anything that begins with a number), the music cluster (#379-387), the writers cluster (#594-599) and anything that had the words "Canada" or "Canadian" in it (#174-177 and a couple of isolated "X in Canada" further down the list) — and I've started adding the polluted category template to categories that we don't really need to concern ourselves with, so hopefully they'll drop off next run. I'm not planning to sit here all day continuing with the list, however, so if you want to do some anything I haven't mentioned above still needs checking. Bearcat (talk) 15:11, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My sandbox[edit]

Good evening,

Please do not edit anything on my profile or sandbox without my permission.

Regards, LuisSantos24 The Commodore (talk) 00:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Santos24 While in general users have control over their user pages and sandboxes, there are a few specific limits. One of those is that userspace pages should not be in the same categories at mainspace pages. When the article for the U.S.S. Herald of Morning moves to mainspace, the category should be restored by removing the :. See Wikipedia:Categorization#User_pages (Which is shortcutted to WP:USERNOCAT)Naraht (talk) 10:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User page is not approved[edit]

Further information: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mohsin Jameel MJ

Hi, May I know why I got the message that my user page is being considered in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. How can I improve my user page.--Mohsin Jameel MJ (talk) 05:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Mohsin Jameel MJ: Read WP:FAKEARTICLE (and WP:NOTPROMOTION and WP:NOTWEBHOST if you are really interested). Essentially, don't format the page to look like an article and keep self-promotion to a minimum. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:41, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mohsin Jameel MJ: If you are using the page to draft an actual article: Read Wikipedia:Writing about yourself and then move the page to Draft:Mohsin Jameel, or, personally request the page be deleted. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello Naraht, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
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Editathons
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Nomination of SAINT (software) for deletion[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Gamma Sigma Epsilon[edit]

Notice

The article Gamma Sigma Epsilon has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

pure listcruft with horrible SHOUTING

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Removed citations from Notable Controversies that don't conform to Wikipedia's NPOV requirements[edit]

I've noticed that you've restored sections of a page recently edited the section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Phi_Alpha#Notable_controversies which was marked as containing a potential NPOV issue. However, in the restoration of the sections you failed to respond to the Talk section for the page section in question. Would you please mind reviewing your edits, and as well add your comments and rationale for the restoration of the content. I have included the quotes from each of the cited articles that is in controversy with the original authors statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rattler98 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for August 26[edit]

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Your help desk question[edit]

Did you ever find the answer about redlinks and regex? Sorry, I don't know how to answer, and no one responded to your question.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vchimpanzee, yes, at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Red_Link_Recovery#Finding_Redlinks_that_meet_Regex? thanx. As I thought, most were from deleted pages, but did get more ideas on groups to make pages for.Naraht (talk) 09:26, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018[edit]

Hello Naraht, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Other
Moving to Draft and Page Mover
  • Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
  • If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
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  • User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
  • User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
  • User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
  • User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
  • User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for taking time to make the list of the Greek Societies in the Philippines! And for your feedback. DotiAbaya (talk) 15:32, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Montgomery County Public Schools (Maryland)[edit]

For the second time, on the template located at [1], if you click on “Click here for further instructions,” instruction #4 clearly states, "Additionally, you may want to check for Wikimedia projects that use this item and then remove or, if possible, replace with a superior item.”  This deletion nomination is based upon a likely copyright violation.  (See [2]). If the deletion request fails to pass, this file can be restored onto the article immediately. What is the justification, legal or otherwise, to have a possible violation of United States copyright law active/live on Wikipedia, until its status is resolved?

Dcflyer I see the instruction, however this seems to be the only place in wikipedia where action is to take place on locations based on a proposal for deletion rather than actually waiting for the discussion to finish. For articles, we don't automatically delete text which is viewed as potentially a copyvio, until it is confirmed.Naraht (talk) 13:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Alpha Sigma Phi[edit]

Ciao. I'm not an admin of this project, make your request on this page. --Buggia (talk) 16:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Gamma Kappa Phi Seal Protected Copyright[edit]

Hi Naraht please don't remove this portion. I need the copyright information to be included, since there are now unauthorized modified versions of the seal being made by some members who are now considered 'breakaway' of our organization; so I have the reference to report from any social media like facebook the source of my claim of infringement. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aajim (talk • contribs) 03:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aajim. The article does have information on the splits within Gamma Kappa Phi, but I don't think any of it is referenced. Wikipedia should never be used directly as a reference, only what the article does reference. None of the information about the seal is referenced and thus largely useless in that regard. And the article is a Wikipedia article about Gamma Kappa Phi, not controlled by the fraternity or any of its brothers or sisters.Naraht (talk) 14:15, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Naraht, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
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  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Naraht/Omega Tau Sigma[edit]

A tag has been placed on User:Naraht/Omega Tau Sigma requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Redirect from userspace draft

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Phi Alpha Sigma (November 7)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HighKing was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Previously declined due to references failing the criteria for establishing notability. No new references have been added, still fails for same reason. Please see WP:NCORP for references that meet the criteria.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Adding Florida keys to school category[edit]

Would you please explain why you are doing this? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 21:15, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deisenbe Sure. That Category, Category:Historically segregated African-American schools in the United States has sort keys of the State that the school is in. It is faster to do with Hotcat which leaves an edit description which you are seeing than to edit the entire article.Naraht (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But why are you doing it? What does it accomplish? All I can see is that it maks the category sort wrong. deisenbe (talk) 01:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Deisenbe Many categories consistently use sort keys, for example categories of people sort on last name. Rhadow added the statement of the sort back in December, and many of the schools were sorted that way when I started this. If you would like to change the standard sort key, we can move the discussion to Category talk:Historically segregated African-American schools in the United States.Naraht (talk) 16:12, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It’s pretty ugly and hard to use, without state subheadings. deisenbe (talk) 16:24, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The answer would seem to be to split the category by state, given its size. Can we pause on this for a day or two to see if Rhadow chimes in?Naraht (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I manually did it for Segregation academies and it worked out rather well. Before you set out on this road, ask yourself whether the convenience for the casual user is worth the work it takes to organize all the articles. Is order by state really a useful ordering? In Segregation academies it is. The user can see that North Dakota had none and Alabama plenty. Certainly the current ordering by state (but invisible) is nigh-on useless. It might be just as good to remove the states from the category tags so you have an an alphabetical list of all the schools. I'm not volunteering to do the work for this category. I am happy to give advice. Free advice is worth what you pay. :^) Rhadow (talk) 18:42, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Deisenbe,Rhadow I'd actually prefer that this be much closer to the way that Category:Segregation_academies is set up. Individual subcategories for each state with a few and leave the remaining half-dozen (?) like the one in Rhode Island without specific sort keys.Naraht (talk) 18:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alvanhholmes Corner[edit]

Thanks for the cookie. It took me three straight days and nights, a quart of sweat and a pint of blood. I created a Word document with successful templates and simply modify each template. Lots to learn yet,lots.

One thing you can help me with is creating a clean sandbox. At the moment my sandbox has a redirect. I fear that If I delete the redirect I the article William Farrar (settler)will either disappear or fall out of the que for approval. Is that true?

I have created another article on my user:Alvanholmes and would like to copy it into my sandbox, but that means I will have to lose the redirect and I am afraid of what will happen if I do that. Related issue: the original article was named Councillor William Farrar, when it was redirected the name was changed to William Farrar (settler) I would like to change the name back to Councillor William Farrar, but don't know how to do that. Can you help? Provide me instructions?

Thanks so much Alvanhholmes (talk) 02:34, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alvanhholmes Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
  1. We all started as noobs, I look back at some of my early edits and cringe.
  2. I deleted the redirect. Note, you can just edit the url and go to sandbox1 or sandbox3 or sandbox486 or ... (and then link them from your user page or a work page, etc. All are equally appropriate to edit, many people keep multiple sandboxes. The only limitation in that regard is not to add the categories (or to add the categories with a colon at the front [[:Category:English Colonists]] which makes it a link, not a member).
  3. Your actual user page is generally intended *not* to be used as a sandbox. I'd just copy what you have there to sandbox2 or some other name under your username.
  4. Given the rules on how article names are done, disambiguation are preferred and titles are discouraged. If there is a different disambiguation term that would make more sense than settler, then changing would be reasonable.

Let me know if you have any other questionsNaraht (talk) 13:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so very much. Thank you for deleting he redirect to William Farrar (settler). As regards that page. One item aboutwikipolicy that I am cognizant of and understand is the need for disambiguation and I totally agree, because in the original article I typed Beggars Bush and a kind reviewer turned it into a link to Beggars Bush a barracks in Ireland.

Beggars Bush is the original name of what is today Jordan Point, Virginia, which was, after 1622 massacre named Jordans Jorney(sic)for Capt Samuel Jordan, who has his own wikipedia page as Samuel Jordan.

There is not much more that can be said about Beggars Bush, but given that it is the original name of Jordans Journey>Jordan Point, Virginia. I think that it is notable enough to deserve it's own article, also the article contains an explanation of the origin of this Strange Name, which I think is important.

When I first encountered the Term Beggars Bush, back in 1962 when I started researching family history. I thought it was Burning Bush, as that was the only thing I could relate to. I have been confounded ever since as to where the term Beggars Bush came from, but after creating my first article I did some research and the article Beggars Bush is the result. I would like to create an external link within William Farrar (settlers) article to Beggars Bush that in the future some other erstwhile researcher won't have to waste time trying to figure it out all on their own.

I do not think that Councillor William Farrar is a name that will cause any ambiguity in the future, as there is only one such. The reason I would like to rename William Farrar (settler) to Councillor William Farrar is because he is mentioned on the page of Cicely Jordan Farrar as her third husband, and I have added a link to William Farrar (settler) on her page, but it looks strange. He was more than a settler, he was aprominent member of the early Virginia Colony, a Councillor in the House of Burgess, and one of 20 who arrested Governor Harvey, amongst other things. But linking him as William Farrar (settler) is unhandy and awkward. Surely the title of his article can be changed to Councillor William Farrar. I would do it if I knew how to change titles, or is that ability reserved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvanhholmes (talk • contribs) 16:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alvanhholmes In terms of Beggars bush, you have a couple of options. After removing the link, you can simply put a note surrounded by comments in the text indicating it isn't the one in ireland<!--note-->, or you can use the pipe trick to a disambiguation so somethink like Beggars Bush which will make a clear link to a page that doesn't exist.
If the location already has an article, it is perfectly appropriate to explain everyting about the old name in it and make the old name a redirect to the current article or even to a section in the current article specifically about the new table. Not sure if that is what you want to do though. Having an external link in that area isn't standard.
You might be OK with William Farrar (councillor) , but as I said, there the rules against including positions as part of the article name are pretty well established. If you can find something similar please let me know, but there are many users likely to move it back if you move it in that way.Naraht (talk) 16:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have made appropriate adjustments and am happy with the Wiki naming of William Farrar (settler) I was able to link it from Cicely Jordan Farrar's page. I have also a dead link to Beggar's Bush, Colony of Virginia. What I think is really needed is a separate page for Beggars Bush, Colony of Virginia it is a short descriptive article and it is already in Draft. I believe that it will add to the collective knowledge, and it is only a few short paragraphs.

Alvanhholmes (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Displaytitle[edit]

I notice you are removing the italics from ship class redirects. From my reading of DISPLAYTITLE italics for ship class names are permitted Lyndaship (talk) 18:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lyndaship Thanx for responding... If you don't mind, I'd like to use Italian ship Etna (A5328) as the example (it seems typical). The page before I changed it (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_ship_Etna_(A5328)&oldid=837190568) was showing up on the automatically generated Category:Pages with disallowed DISPLAYTITLE modifications. The reason for this, I believe is that the redirect article has A5328 and the DISPLAYTITLE has A 5328 (the additional space). They have to match exactly other than the italicization. If the DISPLAYTITLE had A5328, then it wouldn't have shown up there. On a second question, what is the point of having this DISPLAYTITLE on a *redirect*? I believe that all articles that I did that the removal were redirects and thus it won't be shown with the italics as part of an article. Naraht (talk) 18:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I did say ship class redirects. I can see Etna and Artigliere are individual ships and I can see they are wrong and should be disallowed. Compare with Glover-class frigate. Not sure if there is a point on having italics on a redirect but working on the principle there might be Lyndaship (talk) 18:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
LyndashipOK, we can them for the shipclasses, but for each of them, they did show up in the disallowed, which means there was something in the spacing that didn't match the actual article name. For Glover-class frigate , the DISPLAYTITLE entry was Glover class frigate , which differs from the actual title name in both the italics *and* the hyphen. If the hyphen had been there, it would have been fine. According to my contributions, I changed four.
  1. Raimondo Montecuccoli-class cruiser
  2. Luigi Cadorna-class cruiser
  3. Kumbhir-class landing ship
  4. Glover-class frigate
Do you agree?Naraht (talk) 18:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. Thanks for your explanation and resolution. As I said I can't see a reason why you would need italics on a redirect (only thing I could think of was if they also had a category but redirects in categories are always fully italicised which actually is wrong as the ship Prefixes should not be italicised) but on the basis someone put them in they obviously thought there was a purpose. The -class and class thing is because some time ago class was deprecated except when the class is not named after a member of the class eg Town class cruiser. Thanks again Lyndaship (talk) 19:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lyndaship{{LyndashipI restored and then fixed the DISPLAYTITLE on those four redirects.
I thought about Categories as well. The Italicize redirects overrides anything in the Display title, and I'm not sure that it makes sense to try to get an exception. I have done more than my fair share of redirects, my "home stomping ground" on Wikipedia is College Fraternities and Sororities and at one point we went through and made sure that every fraternity/sorority had a redirect from the actual greek letters. So ΑΦΩ is a redirect to Alpha Phi Omega eventually. Naraht (talk) 19:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BTO Deleted Page[edit]

Hi! May I know the specific reasons my page was deleted? You did leave a message in the talk page (I got an email about it) but then proceeded to delete that as well so I could not really read it. It was ("Ahmedmgad65 Hi, my handle is User:Naraht and I'm an editor who specializes in greek letter organizations. Yes, Omega Phi Gamma, Rho Delta Chi and L...") And that's all I can see from the Wikipedia email. Thank you. Ahmedmgad65 (talk) 15:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmedmgad65 Didn't realize it would be *that* speedied, but basically to recap.
  1. Yes, the three groups that you mentioned have basically the same structure, but they are regional, 6,6 & 13 chapters respectively, where Beta Tau Omega has one and even those articles aren't that well referenced. (And might be deleted if no more references showing Notability were added if it went to a formal Article for Deletion process.)
  2. There are a *few* single chapter greek letter organizations about which articles have been written that have stayed on Wikipedia, but those are *much* older and/or better referenced (for example Alpha Theta or Kappa Kappa Kappa).
  3. References from the organization itself don't indicate notability, and for groups on campus, generally articles in the school newspaper aren't generally indicated to show notability either. Alpha Lambda Mu, for example, was covered in city newspapers hundreds of miles away from any of its chapters.
So to boil it down, it is that Beta Tau Omega at this point hasn't been shown to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article to be written about it. It isn't your skill in editing or missing a template, I don't think that I could create a wikipedia page about Beta Tau Omega that wouldn't have the same issues. When I google for "Beta Tau Omega" asian and Texas (which I would expect in any coverage of your fraternity), I get pages created by your group, by the school, by the APC and a few sites like linkedin that include a mention on the page of an alumnus.Naraht (talk) 16:38, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And I wasn't the one who put the speedy template on it, but I didn't see any reason why it should be removed.Naraht (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay! Thank you so much for clarifying. Ahmedmgad65 (talk) 16:50, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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College Football[edit]

I found some more draft for the articles.

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