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[1] - Unfortunately common sense has prevented us from doing that anymore, I wanted to archive the moment I checked but ofcourse Wikipedia being the place it is I had an inkling there would be a "DAVEY2010 HAS ARCHIVED EARLY OMFG!!!!" thread and quite honestly I couldn't be bothered with all that so chose to leave well alone and I assume so did everyone else, Sorry babbling on!, Happy editing. –Davey2010Talk 01:05, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

what's so sensitive

It's an oversight and emergency matter. Do not restore or unarchive it.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 02:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC) further info-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Skandha_(disambiguation page)

I was talking with Nick and he agreed to keep the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes#Skandha_%28disambiguation%29 It is similar to Nirvana_(disambiguation) page. Realphi (talk) 00:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

See article talk page. Natureium (talk) 19:06, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion

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A page you started (FDA Most Wanted Fugitives) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating FDA Most Wanted Fugitives, Natureium!

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Please disambiguate Bo Jiang to the correct target. Thanks!

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For future reference

If you want to add a link to a diff in the closing rationale, Template:Diff works. :) (happened to catch your confusion on my watchlist) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 02:26, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@AddWittyNameHere: Thanks! I think I've seen a template somewhere that just requires the revision number. Do you happen to know what that is? Natureium (talk) 02:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Not from top of my head, but a quick browse lead me to Template:Diff2 which I think fits what you mean. Can be used with just the diff-ID (like [2], leads to my original post here), does have additional optional parameters for linking to sections and giving the diff a name rather than number. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 02:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Natureium (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Page Move Discussion

There is a Page move discussion going on for Rajneesh. Would you be interested in participating? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rajneesh#Requested_move_11_June_2018 Accesscrawl (talk) 07:13, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Did you know

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NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

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Discussion indent for !vote

Hi Natureium, Can you check your !vote near the bottom of the discussion at WP:NPOVN? It's indented as if it's a reply to Taylan's 12:31, 16 June post, but I think you meant it to be your !vote on the original (17:44, 15 June) proposal. If so, then you want * '''Support''', not :: '''Support'''.   HTH, Mathglot (talk) 20:51, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, but it's indented as a reply to JFG's idea because that's what I'm commenting on. Natureium (talk) 21:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Soapboxing

Hi Natureium! Just wanted to ask what exactly you see as "soapboxing" about correcting a statement that is inherently contentious and unverifiable? Here I refer specifically to the claim on the Milli-Q page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milli-Q)that Milli-Q is a generic trademark. This is not supported by verifiable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.thomsentrampedach (talk • contribs) 17:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

You have made a series of edits promoting Merck's trademarks. Wikipedia is not for the promotion of companies. Natureium (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

While I fully support your wish to keep Wikipedia free from advertising etc., I would object to your suggestion that pointing out the fact that a term is a registered trademark constitutes promotion. I'd argue this falls in the "fact" category, and not including this in an article is more misleading than not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markrfi (talk • contribs) 15:51, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

How about mentioning the trademark in a section of the article about the commercialization or history of a product rather than in the beginning of the article? People will probably want to know what a product is and a few descriptive facts before getting a more in depth background. I agree that trademark status belongs in an encyclopedia, but I think it can be presented in a way that doesn't make it seem like it's the most important thing for a reader to know. Thanks, Natureium (talk) 15:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Agreed, thanks for your input! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markrfi (talk • contribs) 16:18, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Olaplex

Hello. You tagged this article for speedy deletion saying it 'seems to be promotional'. and it was deleted by Alexf without any discussion you didn't even wait for the deletion contest. Why on earth would I want to promote a product on Wikipedia?? I created this page because it's 100% essential and useful since this product has made a lot of news and is a best seller and has been recognized by critics as 'the best hair repair product'. it definitely has the required notability and verifiability. We have a lot of articles in category "Hair care products" Why didn't you mark them with speedy deletion-advertising tag?? A basic Google search shows how much this article is needed on Wikipedia. I request the undeletion of Olaplex. CerberaOdollam (talk) 05:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what motivation anyone has for creating wikipedia articles. I just know that the article was promotional rather than objective and informative. I don't have the tools to undelete articles, so you'll have to request undeletion. Natureium (talk) 15:16, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

IRC

Hi, there was someone on #wikipedia-en Freenode IRC channel today claiming to be you who didn't have a cloak. I asked if you would mind confirming the identity through a dummy edit, but I don't see one. If it is you, no big deal, but just trying to make sure people aren't being impersonated :) TonyBallioni (talk) 01:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot. It was me, I'm the dummy, and here's my edit. :) Natureium (talk) 01:13, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers

Hi Natureium, for any changes or confusing wording on the above page, pls raise issue on the talk page and seek consensus decision prior changes is made. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk)

"General sanctions" vs. "Discretionary sanctions"

Hi. In the first line of your wrestling proposal on AN, don't you mean "general sanctions" and not "discretionary sanctions"? As far as I know, only ArbCom can levy discretionary sanctions, while the community can do general sanctions. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:03, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

I called it general sanctions when I first formed it on ANI, and someone asked if I meant the standard discretionary sanctions, so I think that's being used as the type of restrictions levied rather than the authority granted. Natureium (talk) 21:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Enforceability of logged voluntary editing restrictions

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Blocking the wrong person

When the wrong person is blocked, the unblock makes it clear that the block was erroneous. Uh, see my block log. --Bbb23 (talk) 18:06, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

How much did you pay FreeRangeFrog to say that? Kidding. I've seen it a few times, but don't see why it isn't just hidden when it's a clear mistake. Natureium (talk) 18:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Twice my annual Wikipedia salary.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

You has a new cruiser!

BWOOOP!


BWOOOP!


Hot dog! A new SOLAR police cruiser!

This will help you in continuing to chase down naughty AfC approves... so long as they happen during noon.

Congrats, and thanks for helping to clean up this dystopian nightmare of a project!

Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 17:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Haha, thanks. I'm honored. Now when someone accuses me of being wikipolice, they won't be wrong. Natureium (talk) 20:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

db-talk with Twinkle

Special:Diff/847929997 - when I click the "CSD" option for Twinkle, I see a section at the very top called "Talk pages," containing "G8: Talk pages with no corresponding subject page," which will add {{db-talk}} to the page. I'm guessing you didn't notice this, which is understandable? Or does it not show up or work properly for you?--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:14, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I scrolled right to the G section, expecting it to be with the other G8 justifications. Natureium (talk) 19:16, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
No problem. It does seem like Twinkle separates its categories by what the exact template applies to, rather than the criterion as a whole, which does make sense. :)--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:20, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Thekrnp.wordpress.com

Could you please tell me how to delete the page? I can't deleting it. Kishor Raj Narayan Patar (talk) 22:54, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

No worries. I've added a tag and an admin will come along and delete it for you. Natureium (talk) 22:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

"Gonna Make You an Offer You Can't Refuse"

I am a little confused. Given that I have autopatrolled status, and have been resident here for 12 years, plus presently in the top 120 or so editors, why is a new article I created needing of a 'review' ? I may not be perfect – that is for sure, just ask my wife – but this seems to me the first time for an long time that something I created needs a review. An explanation would be good.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:31, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

It's not your fault. Or mine. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Issue with auto-patrol? Natureium (talk) 01:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your understanding and providing the link. Regards - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing List of birds of Sumatra, Natureium.

Unfortunately Primefac has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

Copyvio taken care of via revdel, so this needs re-evaluation.

To reply, leave a comment on Primefac's talk page.

Primefac (talk) 02:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done Natureium (talk) 14:53, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation

Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar
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File:Oshmop.png =

Hmm. Anyway, could you fill it out the information block? ThanksShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:48, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Done. And File:Oshhair.png. I'm surprised it's lasted more than a day. Natureium (talk) 18:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).

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Removal of theory explanation. "Neem Oil (Azadirachtin) 'Poisoning' theory

"Neem Oil (Azadirachtin) 'Poisoning' theory Neem Oil (Azadirachtin[11]) is a relatively non-toxic Pesticide commonly used on Cannabis[12][13]. If used in the wrong concentrations this has been shown to cause "Neem oil poisoning" [14] with the side effects including "vomiting, seizures, metabolic acidosis, and toxic encephalopathy.""

Could you explain your reasoning as to why this was removed? I provided valid source material and my theory was explained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.245.252 (talk) 17:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Sure. You can't cite wikipedia as a reference, because the information could be added by anyone. For medical articles in particular, we use WP:MEDRS, and that stipulates that we don't use primary sources like case reports and research papers. Natureium (talk) 17:56, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Ah I see, I will correct that. Thank you

I have removed that citation as it was intended to be a link for reference. This is my first experience with editing a Wiki so I apologise for errors that I have made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.245.252 (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I read the sources

Hi Natureium, I read the citations for the quoted material on the Empty Nose Syndrome, and phrases I removed were not in those citations, and I added a descriptive phrase from existing cited sources. This is after reading all of the cited sources. So I think there is a mistake on re-adding the removed phrases as well as the added one, since the added one is directly from the existing citation. So, I don't think that they should be changed back, those phrases aren't even in the cited sources.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredofHawaii (talk • contribs) 00:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:InfoWars

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What did you do to the Ron Johnson (Wisconsin politician) article?

Looking through the history of the American politics new article log, I found this which should only appear there if the article is new. I looked at the history and I saw you do this and this. What did you do? Did you delete the article or something? — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  23:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I swapped the article with the title that was redirecting to it. Natureium (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Citing sources

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Parkruns

I'm going to run some of them past AfD, I'm letting you know so you don't revert redirects while I'm sending. Szzuk (talk) 14:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the heads up. Natureium (talk) 14:54, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Rare diseases --> rare syndromes?

Hi, I noticed you replace Rare disease categories with Rare syndromes in articles. Well, there is no clear-cut difference between rare diseases and rare syndromes. A given condition can be named either a disease or a syndrome, depending on tradition. See e.g. Wiskott–Aldrich syndrome for an example of a well-defined disease with a known genetic cause. Werdnig-Hoffmann syndrome is called spinal muscular atrophy these days, which is a disease. Would you consider merging the two categories into "Rare diseases and syndromes"? — kashmīrī TALK 07:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

My understanding is that syndromes are collections of symptoms that may of may not have a clear cause, so all diseases are syndromes but not all syndromes are diseases? Cat:Rare diseases says "Pages in this category should be moved to subcategories where applicable. This category may require frequent maintenance to avoid becoming too large. It should directly contain very few, if any, pages and should mainly contain subcategories.", so I started moving pages that also could fit in the syndrome definition to rare syndromes. If you think this categorization is unnecessary, I would recommend opening a thread at WT:MED so that people can weigh in. Thanks, Natureium (talk) 12:02, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Ali Shilatifard

Hello, you made a note/change to the Ali Shilatifard page back in July. Your note was "Selected publications: a list of "selected publications" would need to be more discriminatory." Can you provide more definition to "more discriminatory"? Does that mean only publications listed in high-impact journals or first- and last- authorship? Thanks! batfran76 (talk)

Bernard Salick

Hello, you suggested improvements to Bernard Salick and I included some more references from the links that appeared on the box, that was really helpful. Can you recheck? and I don't understand the other banner, what should I clean? And I read neutral point of view, I think it's neutral but I am seeking help from you. Thank you. Calabond (talk) 17:55, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure. What's your connection to Dr. Salick? We want things to be written in a neutral encyclopedic tone so it doesn't sound like Wikipedia is trying to promote the person. Natureium (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I have no direct or personal connection with Bernard, and i don't want to promote him in any way. I have personal interest in medical field, sports, meditation etc. A friend asked me to create the article so I did, I tried my best to keep it neutral. I also seek help from people on internet to guide me but no one was willing to help, so I decided to learn Wikipedia myself through tutorials. I also noticed a lot of people don't understand Wikipedia and how to edit. So I am willing to learn and I'm learning. But now I saw that the page is deleted, did you deleted it? I was asking help from you to improve it. Please if you can retrieve the page or give me back in my sandbox, so I can eliminate the issues you were concerned about. Please guide. Thank you. Calabond (talk) 07:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey Calabond, I'm not an administrator, so I don't have the ability to delete or undelete articles, but you should ask the admin who deleted it, User:Anthony Bradbury, and if that doesn't work, you can submit a request at WP:DRV. Natureium (talk) 11:17, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll now ask him, hope I get help Calabond (talk) 15:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to bother you again, that admin is not responding since then. I fixed all possible issues with the tone and submitted the article in my sandbox. If you can check and help out I'll appreciate your help, Thank you. Calabond (talk) 17:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

edit

placed in its own section[3] as you indicated, but saved reference that had been added--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film

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David M. Schwartz (attorney)

Hello Natureium Thank you for taking the time to review my new article. I am quite surprised to learn that there is content seen as copyright violation in my contribution. As a new editor, I would very much appreciate that you point to me those statements that violate copyright and I will be happy to edit them out immediately. If there is anything else that I missed, feel free to let me know also. Thank you for your understanding. Editorup2017 (talk) 16:13, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

It looks like these pages were deleted by an administrator, so I can no longer see the content. If you want to recreate it, I'd suggest doing it through the articles for creation process. Natureium (talk) 23:53, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello Natureium, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

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Enslaver

You may want to read up a bit more on the history of colonial racial chattel “one-drop” rule enslavement. Your messages on my page show a shocking ignorance re: this practice. It’s akin to leaving out the fact that Nazis were Nazis on their articles.LumaNatic (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

I set it because my pages were getting patrolled for some reason??? I didn't know there was a bug - thanks for clearing it up! I'll remove it.

What’s the problem with my edits

I was only reverting edits that considered vandalism and you thought that I didn’t stand up to that correctly? —Heating172, 20:14, 2 Aug 2018

I'm not sure what you're asking. I undid an edit that you said was vandalism which wasn't. Also, your signature needs a link to your talk page. Natureium (talk) 20:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

2018 Kivu Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak

created this article yesterday, however still not reviewed(as it doesn't appear on Google) its important b/c well...[4][5][6], thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:30, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Done. Natureium (talk) 22:33, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
thank you(additionally your input would be welcomed on the article, thank you again)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

Administrator changes

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A page you started (MIS416) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating MIS416, Natureium!

Wikipedia editor Ajpolino just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Do you expect there will be further coverage of this drug? If not, maybe we should merge the content into Innate Immunotherapeutics (and Chris Collins which I'm sure is already getting plenty of updates). Or if there are other drugs of this class maybe we could redirect this title there for readers interested in MS drugs... Anyway, otherwise the article is fine. Just giving my unsolicited $0.02. Cheers!

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Ajpolino (talk) 21:22, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Experimental drugs are considered notable when they reach phase II trials, which this one has. It could be merged, but because it's still under development for treatment of cancer, I expect there to be more information forthcoming. A deeper search would probably find mechanistic information that could be added, but I don't have time right now. Natureium (talk) 21:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Revert on Red blood cell

Ciao Natureium, I took the picture from Wikidata, what's wrong with it? You think this one is so much better, more illustrative or what? Of course most people accept old fashioned black-and-white photographs, but times changed and we all have to move on in the 21st century; not going back like five or six decades IMNSHO. Greetings from Amsterdam,  Klaas `Z4␟` V 12:07, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The black and white image is of actual red blood cells, and supplied by the NIH in 1999. They aren't "old fashioned black-and-white photographs". I would support a change, although not to the one you added, which is a CGI illustration of red blood cells. Vermont (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Klaas! The image you replaced was a photograph taken by electron microscopy, and has such as no color (EM will always be greyscale unless false colored), so all pictures of red blood cells will be black and white regardless of how modern they are. I agree with Vermont that the illustration you put in isn't the best way to represent the subject, because it is obvious that it is CGI. Natureium (talk) 12:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Edits on Peter N Steinmetz page.

The edits I just performed did not remove any objectionable content, but rather added to that content and clarified them.

Please consider each of these edits.

1. Stating the purpose of the open carry. There is a published op-ed at the item which was linked which clearly explains the purpose of this protest. Such explanation is more accurate than the present statement that this was a “as an attempt to demonstrate his second amendment rights”. That statement is arguably inaccurate because from this perspective such open carry and the lack of any charges being formally filed clearly does demonstrate that one has a second amendment right to carry an AR-15 in the Phoenix Sky Harbor airport - thus it was not an “attempt”. Since there is a published explanation of the purpose by the actor it is inaccurate to instead attribute some other motivation.

2. Statement of clearance of record. If the arrest is to be mentioned then it is proper to also mention that the arrest record was cleared by the court. This is purely an addition and not a removal of any content at omit that part of the legal record is to omit a material fact related to the arrest.

3. Clarification of charges. If one reads the indictment, which is part of the legal record, the charges were for violation of 18 USC 1960, which is for unlicensed money transmission. There is no law in the US against Bitcoin trading per se, and so the phrase “illegal bitcoin trading” creates an erroneous impression. The revised language is more precise.

4. Deletion of phrase “fraud charges”. There never were any fraud charges and so that statement is grossly inaccurate. The revised language is more precise. PeterNSteinmetz (talk) 23:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

The content about the arrests has been removed by another editor, as well as some of the other content that was not backed up by a source. All articles about people are required to fulfill to the notability guidelines, and with the amount of information that is currently available from independent sources, I don't know whether or not the article will be kept. Natureium (talk) 23:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Increase Carpenter

You deleted the content of the article for a copy right vio, the content was copied from Battle of Long Island, Nathaniel Woodhull, Prisoners of war in the American Revolutionary War and other ref. I was working on the cites, would you kindly restore access to the article so that it can be sourced? CaptJayRuffins (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't have the ability to undelete things. You should ask the admin that deleted it, RHaworth. Natureium (talk) 01:03, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Help talk:Citation Style 1

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Jefferson School City Center and Lane High School pages

Hi--I thought I had left a note on the City Center page. Sorry about that. I cut the information because it wasn't about the current organization that runs the building (org. founded in 2012), but about the architectural structure itself and its full history (beginning in 1926). I moved that content to the page about the building's entire history. I changed the Burley High School information on the Lane High School page because there is now a page for Burley High School, which I created. I'm going to go in and fix both pages accordingly. My apologies for not being more cautious about being sure to include a note on the changes. I was adding a lot of info to a bunch of pages last night and should have been more consistent. Thanks. 15:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)Leofstan (talk)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

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August 2018

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Adam9007 (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

You realize that's an LTA, right? That's their pattern. Natureium (talk) 00:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes. Just noticed . Adam9007 (talk) 00:26, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Usage of Machine Generated Content

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DYK nomination of MIS416

Hello! Your submission of MIS416 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

NPR Bronze Award

The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award

For over 1000 reviews in the past year. Thank you for your ongoing work reviewing new articles and redirects. Your help is very much appreciated. Thank you. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 01:20, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio by MaryMurphy1

Another for you: Patricia Smith Yaeger. I rescued it, but the initial edit was also a copyvio, if you'd like to revdelete it out. I'd work on some of the others - I think they meet notability - but I don't have time at the moment. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:45, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I'll see what I find for the lot. Natureium (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
All of them appear to be direct copies from the Brown University website, judging by the ones I had a look at. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Dysthymia

Hello, Natureium. What I wrote on the Dysthymia article is from the citation on that sentence. Did you check the citation before you reverted? https://web.archive.org/web/20100106064958/http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/Dysthymia.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by CryMeAnOcean (talk • contribs) 19:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

FYI I removed the PROD on Marta Brilej

Just a courtesy heads up - I removed the PROD proposal you put on Marta Brilej. I did this because the reason given was that it was an unsourced BLP. The subject actually died in 2016 as reflected in her bio over on Slovenian Wikipedia as well as her Wikidata article and even the wikiproject tags on her talk page here. I have updated the main article to correctly reflect that she is deceased (including categories). I left the unsourced hatnote, but removed the PROD. Cheers. --Krelnik (talk) 12:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Pending Changes Reviewing

Hello, Natureium.

I've seen you editing recently and you seem like an experienced Wikipedia editor.
Would you please consider applying to become a pending changes reviewer? Pending changes reviewers have the ability to accept pending revisions on pages with pending changes protection or revert them. It doesn't take much time to do, but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Kindly read Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes before making your decision. Thanks. SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Judy Gamin

It took me about a minute and a half to provide a single reliable source for this BLP of an elected Australian provincial legislator. Please don't disrespect the work of people spending substantial time to create articles of obvious Keeps like this by murdering them at PROD. Go the extra mile and provide a source as part of your appreciated maintenance efforts. Thanks. —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 16:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

All someone needs to do to keep the article is add any reliable source. There are more than 2000 articles tagged as unsourced BLPs and an unknown number of more that haven't been tagged. Unsourced BLPs are a clear violation of policy. If tagging it with a BLP-PROD is the only way to get someone to add a source to an article that has been hanging around since 2009, I see no reason that I shouldn't. If someone cared about the article, they've had 9 years to add a source. Natureium (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Just because nobody is actively solving flags doesn't mean that the articles are unimportant or the work worthless. Rather than semi-automated PROD destruction, spend another minute to save information. (Also, if it's really more than 9 years old, its probably grandfathered under the old BLP rules, yes?) Thanks. Carrite (talk) 17:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If it's been sitting unsourced for 9 years and no one has bothered to take a second to add a source, a prod is a perfectly reasonable course of action and it will be there for 7 days, which is more than enough time for someone who cares about it to deal with it. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Ruth Silver

Hi. Thanks for your diligence in tackling unsourced BLPs. In this case Ruth Silver appears certainly notable enough for an article, 'though I understand the possible irritation over the lazy adding of BLP stuff without sources (I certainly despise it), some of it here appearing to be promoted by Silver herself. The PROD should run its course to see if anyone bothers to add reliable sources. If none are added, an alternative might be to reduce the article to a one-sentence stub, given that she is a 'dame'. Thanks for your efforts. Acabashi (talk) 20:42, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

BLP prod

Please try and take a bit more care in checking whether an article actually is a BLP before tagging it. I've reverted your edits to Honey Bees, Dis-n-Dat and Bimbo Jones, as none meet the criteria set out in the WP:BLPPROD policy page, which says: "Although policy on biographies of living persons covers all types of biographical material, the use of this deletion procedure applies only to articles that are biographies of living people. This deletion procedure does not apply to such things as lists of people or biographical information contained in other articles. If there is any doubt to the applicability of this procedure, then it is preferable to use another deletion process (e.g. WP:PROD, WP:AFD or others as applicable)." – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

I will be more careful in the future. Thank you for pointing to the relevant instructions. These articles are still tagged with blp-unref however. Particularly in the case of Honey Bees, it may not technically be a biography of a single person, but the article is almost entirely biographical information on subjects of questionable notability. I'll look for an alternate avenue for taking care of all these articles. Natureium (talk) 23:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch

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Revision on Mendelian Susceptibility to Mycobacterial Disease

Dear Natureium, thanks for the recent amendment on mendelian susceptibility to mycobacterial disease. I am currently reviewing the literature on this topic, and foreseeably, the terminology may not be as reader-friendly. You may kindly help to revise the article later, thank you! Levi852 (talk) 12:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Jeffrey Drebin

Thanks for the feedback over at WP:Medicine. I'm not sure if you saw my reply there, but I've implemented the changes you suggested. With those changes implemented, do you think you have time to help me publish it?--FacultiesIntact (talk) 00:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@FacultiesIntact: It looks good. I've moved it to mainspace. Natureium (talk) 00:45, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Harald Kleinhofer (actor)

I changed the article to it being a luger originally. The (actor) will have to changed to luger. Chris (talk) 17:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm looking at this mess now. It looks like an IP vandal co-opted the article by turning it into a new biography, and then it was moved to (actor) when someone created another biography of the luger. Natureium (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and another user help repairing this mess. Chris (talk) 22:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for MIS416

On 6 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article MIS416, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that MIS416, a drug derived from bacteria that cause acne, was used to treat multiple sclerosis in New Zealand under a compassionate use law before clinical trials were unable to prove its efficacy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/MIS416. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, MIS416), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hey! Cool! Killiondude (talk) 17:54, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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