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Special greeting...

Thanks Atsme, and season's greetings to you. What is the image of (sans the xmas decorations). Is it a close-up of a worm? NorthAmerica1000 00:06, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
May be.. She's so fond of fishes and the like you know?..--The Herald : here I am 11:47, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Northamerica1000, yes, actually - Spirobranchus giganteus - Christmas tree worms on a brain coral (appropriate in all ways, huh?) at around 30 ft. underwater. The Herald SCUBA-DOOBA-DOO! Merry Xmas to you!! AtsmeConsult 07:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
(ping User:Atsme, User:The Herald): Thanks for the info Atsme, interesting topic. Hey, what did a worm say to another worm that got stuck in an apple? Worm your way out of that one! (turn on your audio and press play at the right...) NorthAmerica1000 08:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
FYI - Whenever I finish a difficult edit, I jump over here and play that sound byte. Hit it now!! AtsmeConsult 23:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Request on 16:05:53, 21 December 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by 122.164.136.216


122.164.136.216 (talk) 16:05, 21 December 2014 (UTC) Dear Sir or Madam,

Yes, I am deeply disappointed with the communication that my article was not accepted. As you can see for yourself, it is personal recount of my own academic and professional credentials stated in a conservative manner in spite of my large contributions to my profession and the engineering and management fraternity. I request you to kindly view my professional profile at LinkedIn profile at the link: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=47413360&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile_pic

Many friends and members of my extended family have been asking me over the past few years to post my profile in public domain primarily to motivate underprivileged persons and persons coming from rural background in developing societies.

I assure you that I fully vouch for whatever has been mentioned my article for inclusion in Wikipedia and I shall take full responsibility as I have never claimed credit for anything from any other person or organization.

I request you to please help me and advise me with specifics so I can comply with for early publication of my article at Wikipedia.

Thanks and regards, Prof. R. Murugesan, PhD

Wikipedia article posted by Dr. Murugesan Ramalingam; request your help

Dear Sir or Madam,

Yes, I am deeply disappointed with the communication that my article was not accepted. As you can see for yourself, it is personal recount of my own academic and professional credentials stated in a conservative manner in spite of my large contributions to my profession and the engineering and management fraternity. I request you to kindly view my professional profile at LinkedIn profile at the link: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=47413360&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile_pic

Many friends and members of my extended family have been asking me over the past few years to post my profile in public domain primarily to motivate underprivileged persons and persons coming from rural background in developing societies.

I assure you that I fully vouch for whatever has been mentioned my article for inclusion in Wikipedia and I shall take full responsibility as I have never claimed credit for anything from any other person or organization.

I request you to please help me and advise me with specifics so I can comply with for early publication of my article at Wikipedia.

Thanks and regards, Prof. R. Murugesan, PhD email ID: drmurugesanr@email.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.136.216 (talk) 16:07, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello: The submission at Draft:R. Murugesan needs the addition of independent, third-party reliable sources about the subject (that being yourself) to verify information within it and to qualify the subject's notability. The LinkedIn profile source is considered a primary source that does not serve to establish notability for Wikipedia's purposes. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not a web hosting service, and in many aspects, the entry is written as a resume, which is against policy per WP:NOTRESUME. Please feel free to add more reliable sources to the submission that preferably provide significant coverage of the subject and copy edit the submission so it's written in an encyclopedic tone, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica1000 21:09, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry etc etc

And thank you for all your efforts with TAFI - Cheers, Evad37 [talk] 02:38, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Underneath the Clackline Bridge
Thanks Evad37, and a warm holiday season to you. Interesting image on your user page, is that your tag under the bridge? NorthAmerica1000 06:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Nah, just happened to come across it. Of course, being a Wikipedian, I should have added a [clarification needed] tag :) - Evad37 [talk] 03:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Evad37: to the image, the image caption, or the tag under the bridge? Ha ha! Happy holidays. NorthAmerica1000 13:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment request

Please see Talk:Steak (disambiguation)#Need for this page.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Replied there. NorthAmerica1000 10:33, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!!
Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 18:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Merry

To you and yours

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  • Yuletide greetings Feyd, and hope you have a great New Year. NorthAmerica1000 23:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Happy Holiday!
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Thanks for your all contributions and help to this wonderful encyclopaedia, have a great and enjoyable holiday! Hee. ~ Muffin Wizard ;) 19:52, 24 December 2014 (UTC)



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Have a bright Hawaiian Christmas!--Mark Miller (talk) 16:43, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Mark Miller, and happy holidays. NorthAmerica1000 15:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

16:52, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

AfD close request

Hey NA1K, since this area is your bailiwick, would you mind closing a couple of AfD's, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nate_Moore_(actor) & Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dave_Oren_Ward. Rather than have an active BLP and a biography for a deceased person which on their own have sketchy Notability, a third article about the incident that connects them is in process, Killing of Dave Owen Ward. Admittedly, I was uninvolved until I saw a posting about the article for Nate Moore (actor) on the BLP Noticeboard, but then I started editing along with another Editor. This was followed by quite a few instances of Sockpuppetry that Mike V dealt with. Your help would be appreciated. Thx, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:14, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

  • It's customary for AfD discussions to run for a minimum of seven days before being closed. As both of these discussions have not reached this mark, I will pass on closing the discussions at this time. NorthAmerica1000 01:17, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Whoops, my bad. I'll check back in a couple days. --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 01:32, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi, no problems with you deleting this, but I put a couple of transcriptions from 19th-century newspapers on the talkpage that I haven't otherwise kept. Any chance of retrieving them for me? --Andreas Philopater (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andreas Philopater:  Done. See User:Andreas Philopater/William Adlam. The content may not copyrighted at this time due to being 199 years old. U.S. copyright law states that copyright for works created prior to January 1, 1978 lasts for the life of the author "plus 70 years or 95 or 120 years, depending on the nature of authorship".[1] It's a little of a grey area, because the authors' names are not stated in the works. However, per U.S. Fair use doctrine, provision of the information appears to be legitimate since it is for "nonprofit educational purposes", the content is comprised of a small portion of works, and it is unlikely to affect the market value of the works.[2] Per all of this, after you save the content, I would prefer to delete the userfied content, and also per WP:NOTWEBHOST. When you've saved the work, please place {{Db-g7}} atop the page. Thanks. NorthAmerica1000 01:59, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. These are from newspapers published in the UK, where the applicable term for unsigned contributions would be 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was made available to the public. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 02:49, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Andreas Philopater: Despite all of the above, since the article was deleted, and per WP:NOTWEBHOST, I still want to delete the userfied page after you have saved its content. NorthAmerica1000 02:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
See tag etc. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 02:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
☒N Deleted. Thank you for your prompt reply and response. NorthAmerica1000 02:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 31 December 2014

Happy New Year Northamerica1000!

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Have a bacon-filled new year!

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Thanks SuperHamster: I love that bacon-smiley face montage image, but I'm biased since I created it... NorthAmerica1000 01:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Heh, well, at least you know your image is being put to use! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Greetings

My greetings for a great 2015 to one of the greatest WP editor! Cavarrone 08:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Northamerica1000!

Bonne année

Happy new year to you too. Haven't seen you at RfD much lately. Si Trew (talk) 09:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi SimonTrew: I've been spending a decent amount of time at AfD. Happy New Year! NorthAmerica1000 11:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Northamerica1000!

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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
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Happy New Year!

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! A new year has come! How times flies! 2015 will be a new year, and it is also a chance for you to start afresh! Thank you for your contributions!
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New Year

Happy New Year too! WhisperToMe (talk) 13:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Northamerica1000!

Happy New Year!
Wishing you happiness and good health throughout the coming year. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:33, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Thank you for the greetings, and the same to you!! Funandtrvl (talk) 18:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you, too!

Thanks for the nice wake-up notice. Yoninah (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Thank you very much, same to you! GiantSnowman 10:33, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Thanks for the message. Happy New Year to you too! OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 20:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Northamerica1000!

And thank you for making Wikipedia a better encyclopaedia. 7&6=thirteen () 17:26, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year !!!!

WP:Featured picture on Red Hawk cheese

Red Hawk cheese - but that article really is a same. Can I count on you in put that in a bit of a better shape? Before it makes its appearance in the Signpost? Here some sources. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]It’s my most dreaded would-you-rather question. Which would you rather give up, forever: cheese or sex?Hafspajen (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

  • I may or may not improve the article. A good place to recommend article improvements, post sources to, etc. is at WP:TAFINOM. At this time, I can't guarantee that I will work on all article requests posted on my talk page. NorthAmerica1000 11:29, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2015)

Dishwashing liquid is a detergent used in dishwashing
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Some boba for you!

Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia!... which are, my goodness, a lot!! Enjoy your boba. You deserve another hundred bobas, but I don't want to spam your page! Bananasoldier (talk) 05:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and Happy New Year

Thanks for the barnstar and the New Year's greeting. I wish you a happy and prosperous New Year. I have been offline in recent days due to a minor medical issue so I am off to a slow start this year. Also, real life tasks and activities have cut my time on Wikipedia since Thanksgiving week, though not as much as the period since Christmas. I expect to have more time for Wikipedia as soon as later this week. I plan to do more content work over the next few months but I will continue to do some anti-vandalism reviews as well. Donner60 (talk) 08:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi Donner60: Get well soon, and thanks again for all of your contributions to Wikipedia. Furthermore, your work in countering vandalism is much appreciated. Cheers, NorthAmerica1000 17:10, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

We had unanimity in favor of merging, so this should be closed rather than relisted. postdlf (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Postdlf: The nominator states in a comment, "it could be merged into the Cultural Festival (India) page that Postdlf has mentioned", (italic emphasis mine) but does not explicitly state to merge, and has not withdrawn or struck the nomination. As such, I hesitate to close this as a merge. NorthAmerica1000 16:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
The nominator also stated in their comment, "Right now it appears to be a free-for-all." To me, this (and the above) is not congruent with a strong merge sentiment. NorthAmerica1000 16:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Help with Verizon article?

Hello Northamerica1000, I am reaching out as you appear to be one of the few active members from the list of participants at WikiProject Companies and I am looking for an editor/editors to look over a draft for the Verizon Communications article. I am an employee of Verizon and I don't make any direct edits to Verizon related articles myself, but from time to time I have put forward drafts to offer updates and additional encyclopedic information. Would you be able help me with a draft I have offered for a suggested new section?

The proposed draft is to add a section regarding the company's "Corporate responsibility", which is not included in the article at present. The draft is in my userspace and I have left a more detailed request on the Verizon Talk page, here. If you would be able to spare the time, can you look at my draft and move it into the article if it looks good to you? I am open to any suggestions or questions.

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, Northamerica1000, I understand that you'd prefer not to assist, and I appreciate your suggestion to add a connected contributor template to the Verizon Communications Talk page. I'll make sure to do that. VZBob (talk) 22:14, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

TAFI Dishwashing liquid

Hi! Happy New Year! How are you? I was wondering if you could help me use some of the references I've scouted out in talk:dishwashing liquid. Regardless, thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bananasoldier (talkcontribs) 04:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi Bananasoldier: I may get around to it. I have performed a few edits to the article, but nothing substantial yet. NorthAmerica1000 05:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Northamerica1000. You relisted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Prill (3rd nomination). You participated in the previous AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Prill (2nd nomination). I'm letting you know in case you want to participate in the current AfD. Cunard (talk) 04:20, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the notification, and I'll consider it. NorthAmerica1000 04:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 January 2015

16:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

help on a first non-admin AFD closure

Hi Northamerica1000. I just tried performing my first close of an AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oroville Fire Department (California), for Oroville Fire Department, as "Keep" given the nominator eventually voted "Keep" and there was no opposition. Could you possibly please review it?

  • For one thing, the Old AFD Multi box that I added at top of Talk:Oroville Fire Department fails to link to the AFD discussion. I can't see what I missed in setting that up. Can you?
Oh, I see I hadn't noticed inclusion of "(California)" in the AFD name, which is different than the article name. The article was moved/renamed on January 11, during the AFD. Hmm, do I need to do anything at the redirect Talk page, or otherwise change anything, given the discrepancy between article name vs. AFD-reported article name?
  • Also, should I have closed it as "Speedy Keep", as I did close it before 7 days? I believe it was okay/good to close early, given apparent consensus of all 2 participants, right?

Your comments welcome. Thanks in advance, --doncram 00:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi Doncram: No worries. Here's a rundown of some minor adjustments I performed:
  1. Moved the section header below the closing comment. The closing comment always goes at the very top of the discussion (just underneath Template:Afd top)
  2. Changed the close to "speedy keep" per your comment above. This was an appropriate close per Wikipedia:Speedy keep – Applicability, point #1. Nobody in the discussion opined to delete, and the nominator withdrew.
  3. Added (Non-administrator closure.) to the closing comment. Non-admin disclosure is recommended at this same linked page (in this point #3), wherein it states "Non-administrators closing deletion discussions are recommended to disclose their status in the closing decision." A different way to do this is with Template:Nac, by adding {{subst:nac}}.
  • You placed the oldafdfull template on the correct page, on the talk page of the article's present location.
  1. I moved the oldafdfull template below the Wikiproject templates, as per Administrator AfD close instructions, section "Carrying out the AfD close", subsection "Keep".
– That's it. Cheers, NORTH AMERICA1000 04:13, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much for explaining! Wow, I didn't expect so many separate points, this is more complex than I always thought it would be. I am taking note of these several points including tip to use that "subst:nac" shortcut. Thanks, cheers, :) --doncram 20:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Doncram: No problem. FYI, the article has been renominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oroville Fire Department. NORTH AMERICA1000 21:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

SARAH

You deleted it, but it remains. I emailed oversight hours ago. They just replied saying thanks and the team has suppressed the information. It remains. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:06, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Hi AF: try purging your cache and reloading the page. It should be gone. NorthAmerica1000 14:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
I asked oversight to remove the username entirely. Maybe I wasn't clear with them or you. Sorry. Actually, I'm not sure they can even do that, but I think so. Also, maybe it isn't even needed because there the account is blocked and Wikipedia is a big place. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
AF: Per Wikipedia:FAQ#How do I change my username/delete my account?, "A username cannot be deleted". However, it wouldn't surprise me if WMF has a way to wipe the user name entirely. Per Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing#Vanishing from Wikipedia, the user name can be changed, in which a bureaucrat performs this, which will also change the name in the revision history of articles contributed to. However, after the page in question was deleted, there are no contributions present for that user now. NORTH AMERICA1000 03:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Some TAFI for you!

Some TAFI for you!
Thanks for your contribs to Dishwashing liquid! Bananasoldier (talk) 20:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
By the way, dishwashing liquid is 1286 characters away from DYK prose qualification. Also, how do we know when we've met consensus on the move proposal? Bananasoldier (talk) 00:07, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2015)

The history of Mongolia includes the foundation, expansion, and fragmentation of the Mongol Empire in the 13th century
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Journal of Biological Physics and Chemistry

Hello,

I originally created this page. I tried to find it today, but find it was deleted.

I have now found the archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article. The debate apparently began on 3 December 2014 and was terminated on 17 December 2014. This seems to be far too peremptory. I had no chance of responding to any of the points made, as I would have liked to do -- I was not even aware of the debate taking place.

I would be glad if the article can be reinstated, and I shall be happy to respond to the points to the best of my knowledge. Ankababel (talk) 21:06, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Hello Ankababel: A problem is that per the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Biological Physics and Chemistry, the journal was found to not meet Wikipedia's notability standards for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Regarding the duration of the deletion discussion, they are actually often closed after seven days, so the duration of time, as per Wikipedia's standards, was not particularly short, especially since the discussion was relisted for an additional week. I'm not allowed to reinstate the article in these circumstances. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you. NorthAmerica1000 01:23, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello NorthAmerica: thank you for the explanation. I would not say that I have been inconvenienced, but I am concerned that some of the points made in the discussion were inaccurate. I would be sorry if the deletion was actually carried out on spurious grounds, as seems to have been the case. Only a small number of users participated in the deletion discussion, and they do not seem to have taken the trouble to properly research the matter. Is there a procedure for reviewing the decision?Ankababel (talk) 07:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Ankababel: I'm familiar with User:Randykitty and User:DGG, both of whom contributed to the discussion and both of whom are trusted administrators on Wikipedia. The closest guideline relative to the subject is Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals), which is not a Wikipedia guideline page, but is used at times in deletion discussions. Do you have any evidence that the topic may meet any of the criteria therein, or that which counters arguments presented in the deletion discussion (including the nomination)? Due to the overall arguments and consensus at the deletion discussion, it's unlikely that I will be able to restore the article. A place to contest closures is at WP:Deletion review Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. NorthAmerica1000 09:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Actually,Ankababel, it would have to be at WP:Deletion review, since it was deleted at AfD. Requests for Undeletion deals only with prods and AfC deletions. Take a look first at the AfD: the decision was unanimous. DGG ( talk ) 09:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks DGG for the clarification. I knew that, but for whatever reason, I thought about WP:REFUND, rather than the correct Wikipedia:Deletion review. (facepalm) NorthAmerica1000 09:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you NorthAmerica and DGG for the further clarifications. To summarize, I need to go to Wikipedia:Deletion review, correct? I definitely have counterarguments to the arguments presented in the deletion discussion. User:Randykitty was very helpful when I first created the page, so I am surprised that s/he voted for deletion! But, is there any way I can access the page as it was before deletion? I need to know what was, actually, being discussed.Ankababel (talk) 09:55, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

NorthAmerica: Thank you. I have consulted WP:Deletion review and am satisfied that it is appropriate according to the Purpose. The Instructions ask me first (before listing a review request) to discuss the matter with the closing administrator and try to resolve it with him or her first. It is unfortunate that I was not alerted to the deletion discussion (presumably the page was not on my watchlist) otherwise I could have made the points then and there. So should I go ahead and list a review request?Ankababel (talk) 10:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

  • User:Ankababel: go for it. It's unfortunate that you were not notified about the discussion. While this is not required when articles are nominated for deletion, in my opinion it is preferred to notify article creators and contributors about them. NorthAmerica1000 10:39, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

NorthAmerica: I agree -- it should (and could) be automatic. A) I have reviewed some recent Deletion reviews and see (roughly) how it works. I have some questions, numbered for ease of reference: 1) is the decision at the end made by any administrator or the one who deleted it in the first place? 2) Unfortunately I could not find any journal page that had been deleted. This would have been useful as a guide. Are you aware of any? Is there a tool to locate them? B) regarding the AfD, 5 editors contributed, which I deal with in turn: 1) the nominator made several points i) "without an impact factor" -- from the data cited IF > 50/318. Is there a formal threshold? Besides, these are BIOSYS data only; since the journal gives equal weight to chemistry and physics, which are presumably not of interest to BIOSYS, IF could be 3x that. ii) "only listed indexing services are minor" -- is Chemical Abstracts Services minor? I thought that was the major one. iii) "the link to the journal here is currently dead" -- I have checked it now & it is working fine. Maybe some temporary glitch in a server? It is unfortunate that the link was then marked as "dead" -- would have negatively influenced opinion, of course. 2) Comments by Randykitty are problematical because Randykitty contributed to the creation of the page and these issues, that were originally raised, were resolved then -- otherwise the page would not have remained. Why the change of opinion? 3) Blue Rasberry refers to Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals) but you have yourself stated that they are "sometimes used". In any case there are no absolute rules. Given the journal's unique profile and history, and the way it occupies a very special niche, especially in FIS, a strong case for an exception could be made. 4) DGG: "Worldcat shows only 6 library holdings". This must be a gross underestimate, because "Only libraries that have created a profile in the WorldCat Registry are listed in the library search results". I doubt that our departmental library, which subscribes to the journal, has bothered to create a profile. 5) Joaquin008: "per nom". I do not understand this. Could you explain, please? Finally, I note from the history that an orphan tag was added on 18 March 2014. It is not so obvious why a journal page should have incoming links (but I will check other journals), but of course they could be created. But is it appropriate for me as page creator to do that? Seems like COI, which is why I never even looked at the page again until a few days ago. I would appreciate your advice on this. Thanks Ankababel (talk) 23:37, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

1. Deletion review discussions are typically (and should be) closed by an uninvolved administrator
2. See this custom search to view AfD discussions that have occurred regarding journals. Some of these have been closed with a deletion result.
3. As far as I'm aware, Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals) is the closest thing to a guideline page for journals
4. Regarding editor !votes in the discussion, you should ask them about it, as they can explain their rationales better than I can
5. "Per nom" in deletion discussions is an abbreviation for "per nominator"
6. Links to articles are functional to interconnect topics in the encyclopedia. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking for more information. Having some incoming links to an article one created is unlikely to cause concerns about conflict of interest.
NORTH AMERICA1000 00:04, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi NorthAmerica: thank you for these responses, all very helpful, thx especially for custom search. May I (perhaps finally on this topic) ask:
(a) whether you find my responses to AfD points reasonable
(b) does the closing administrator simply tot up the votes, or are the points critically evaluated for validity and weighted accordingly
(c) is there a ″quorum″ (i.e. minimum number of participants) for AfD (and deletion review)? Ankababel (talk) 21:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
  • User:Ankababel: I recommend adhering to the points at the Notes and examples section of Notability (academic journals) page in terms of qualifying the criteria listed above that section on the page, as there is precedent therein. Some of your points above are functional in terms potentially demonstrating notability. Afd and Deletion review discussions are closed upon the merits of arguments relative to Wikipedia guidelines and policies. There is no minimum for participants in said discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 23:26, 11 January 2015 (UTC)