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Yume Miyamoto

Hello, I note that you deleted this article two years ago after a deletion discussion, a result that was endorsed in a deletion review last year. I've been thinking of being willing to work on the article and let it go through the AfC process. Is it okay if you restore the article as a draft so that it can be AfC'd? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • @Narutolovehinata5: I would be willing to userfy the content to your userspace. Let me know if you'd like me to proceed. If so, I will then provide more information here about the article itself. North America1000 17:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah that could also work. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:34, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • The version up to and including 05:58, 19 November 2016 (UTC) is the version that was deleted per the AfD discussion. As you are likely aware, if you were to simply republish this, it would qualify for speedy deletion per WP:G4.
  • The version that was created and copy edited on 18 October 2017 (UTC) is the version that was speedy deleted per WP:A7.
– North America1000 04:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #018, 04 Sept 2018

Bug hunt!

As you know, portals are now supported by a number of new templates, which are in turn supported by some new Lua modules.

Those templates and modules are being put to the test, in the new portals that have been created since this WikiProject rebooted, plus a number of existing portals that have been revamped.

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Jahangir (31 August 1569 – 28 October 1627) was the fourth Mughal Emperor, who ruled the Mughal Empire from 1605 until his death in 1627. Pictured is a 17th century painting of Jahangir hunting with a falcon.
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Deletion of Transport puzzle

I'm inclined to take this one to DRV but thought you might be persuaded to restore and/or reopen the AFD. It was claimed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transport puzzle that absolutely no RS could be found using this term but I believe there has been a serious lack of WP:BEFORE on this one. Several people claimed to have searched gbooks without success. I found two relevant hits on the first page of results: this symposium has a passing mention in connection with Sokoban, but at least it supports the definition of the term; iPhone Game Blueprints has a section on "Transport puzzles" over three pages and gives as examples 15 puzzle, Klotski, and The fox, the goose, and the bag of beans, all listed in our article either directly or as a member of a higher group. Admittedly, that last is a print-on-demand book, but there are other book hits and also a number of scholarly papers. One of the few not behind a paywall is What determines difficulty of transport puzzles?. Their definition is in line with our article, and of the puzzles studies (Sokoban, Rush Hour (puzzle) and Replacement Puzzle) two of the three are listed in our article. Another is "Generic Puzzle Level Generation for Deterministic Transportation Puzzles". There are a few dozen more that are inaccessible, but snippets indicate that many are very relevant such as "Genetic algorithms and the art of Zen". Regards, SpinningSpark 15:57, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

  • @Spinningspark: Per your comments above, I have restored the article for the time being and relisted the deletion discussion. I strongly recommend that you provide commentary such as the above in the relisted deletion discussion. North America1000 01:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Sewing Machines

Hi, I see that you started a page on sewing machine brands. I saw an interesting machine called a Vogue. Are you familiar with the brand and manufacturer? Thanks! --Kevin Murray (talk) 15:52, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

@Kevin Murray: No familiarity with Vogue. I created the list article from a category, and in the process actually ended up learning a fair amount about sewing machines, a topic I previously had not much knowledge about. North America1000 01:10, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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Deleted Article Marc A. Gallo

Hello,

An article I wrote was recently deleted for issues concerning notability and significant coverage. Here's the discussion for deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marc_A._Gallo I just have a few questions to understand why it was deleted and what I should keep in mind for future articles.

The subject was covered in a variety of independent print sources including Philadelphia Inquirer, Performing Songwriter Magazine, Progression Magazine, and Forbes Magazine, which were cited in the references. Are these magazines not sufficient sources? Is it the nature of the articles that is not sufficient? Is it that some of these articles are not available online? Is there any issue with how old the articles are, and would more recent coverage have helped?

In other words, what could have been done differently to make this or any future articles on par with Wikipedia's notability standards?

Thank you in advance for your time and information! Mc mccullough (talk) 18:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Mc mccullough: Per WP:GNG, sources do not have to be available online. Subject qualification for an article hinges on the subject having received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Upon checking out the deleted article per the sources you mentioned, here's a source review:
  • Philly.com – Unclear to what level of coverage is provided, as it's paywalled, and I'm not going to pay to investigate further.
  • Forbes – written by a Forbes contributor, rather than a staff writer. Wikipedia users often dismiss contributor articles as not counting toward qualifying notability for various reasons, such as being a primary source, promotional, churnalism, or unreliable, or for other reasons.
  • Performing Singersongwriter – Appears to be a reliable source. I cannot access the article to review it's content.
Users at AfD discussions may have based notability upon these matters, and some also based notability assessments upon available sources from source searching. It's unfortunate, but an offline source, one that is paywalled, or one that is not reviewable may be unduly dismissed by users who cannot read then entire content. I'm not saying that this is what occurred in this case, but it's possible. North America1000 22:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000:

Thank you so much for your response, I really appreciate the insight!

There are pdf scans of these articles available online, however they are on the subject's personal website (http://marcagallo.info/media/). Could I re-create the page if I present these copies in the references? Or, if I could provide a copy of the articles myself as well as the front covers for each magazine (showing volume, issue, and upc code) as proof of authenticity, would that suffice?

Mc mccullough (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Mc mccullough: Yes, you can create a new page, although I strongly suggest that you first do so in your user space or in draft namespace. Afterward, I recommend that you submit a revised article with the content you mention above to Articles for creation, where your submission can be reviewed. An easy way to do this is to place {{Userspace draft}} atop the draft page and then select the "Submit your draft for review" link. North America1000 22:15, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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CBAN discussion time

You closed the discussion on WP:ANI#OberRanks and fabricated sources [7] I think as a community site ban. While I don't disagree with the close, just as a quick note WP:CBAN requires "Sanction discussions must be kept open for at least 24 hours to allow time for comments from a broad selection of community members." This happened after an RfC in February 2018. While I personally felt this was unnecessary, and perhaps you'll get away with IAR, some people are quite fussed about complying with this requirement. Nil Einne (talk) 06:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, was just going to say the same thing. Just a matter of sparing yourself (and us) the procedural hassle of meta-debates that might end up overshadowing the actual issue. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
@Nil Einne and Future Perfect at Sunrise: Thanks for letting me know about the relatively new 24-hour stipulation/RfC for it, which I was not aware of. I have re-opened the ANI discussion, unblocked the user, and removed the ban notices from the user's talk pages. North America1000 06:25, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Nb. 24 hours has commenced, and consensus is the same. I have now indefinitely blocked the user. North America1000 11:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Northamerica1000, thanks for closing the thread. There are a few remaining tasks that I hope you are getting to them. Procedural wise, the site ban needs to be logged at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions, and the diffs need to be presented in permanent links, otherwise they would be inaccessible after the threads are archived. In terms of your closing comments, I think there are a couple things that should be clarified. The site ban is only applicable to the English Wikipedia, as our community have no jurisdiction in other Wikimedia projects, therefore it should be clarified as such rather than merely "Wikipedia". Another minor point is that individual administrators have no authority to site ban, so the closing comment should be amended to something along the lines of "I have implemented community consensus" rather than "I have site banned". Thanks for the taking the time, and cheers. Alex Shih (talk) 12:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
@Alex Shih: I have modified the close a bit. I think you may be incorrect about admin action here, though. Right atop WP:BAN it states, "Bans are a possible outcome of dispute resolution. They may be imposed by community consensus, by the Arbitration Committee, or by administrators (in certain topic areas)." North America1000 13:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Northamerica1000, in the very sentence you linked to, it is pretty explicit about the jurisdiction of administrators when it comes to banning only applies to "in certain topic areas" that were authorised. Thanks for amending your wording. Alex Shih (talk) 13:40, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
I looked into it more, and have removed all mentions of a site ban everywhere, from the user's talk page and user page, from the ANI discussion, etc. I will message DGG about this for more guidance, since he's an arbitrator, and can potentially finalize a site ban or take steps to do so. North America1000 13:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
@Alex Shih: But it's not North America banning him, it's the community (per "They may be imposed by community consensus"). North America is simply communicating what the community decided. How else do we implement community bans? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:44, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
@Boing! said Zebedee: I was merely talking about my minor concern with the original wording itself, where it was phrased as "I have site banned OberRanks", even though that was presumably not the intended meaning (rather, a consensus was implemented). Alex Shih (talk) 13:49, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm going to leave matters as worded for now in the ANI closure and on the blocked user's talk page. I was cautious prior to performing the block and took my time to look at the many variables involved. I'm not one to overstep my bounds, and I am most comfortable leaving out the part about my actions equating to a site ban at this time on said pages. Again, I have messaged an arb about this matter, who will hopefully respond here when he's available to provide some information. As per all of this, I have not added any information to Wikipedia:Editing restrictions at this time. North America1000 13:52, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks folks - I'm happy to do the necessary when I have time, if nobody gets there first. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:56, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) North America, I think you have misunderstood what I meant. You have enacted a clear community consensus to implement site ban, that was correct. All I was saying is that your closing comment was not exactly consistent with the action that was taken (even though the second sentence did mention the action was done to implement consensus), and can create an impression that an administrator can just site ban editors at will (!), as opposed to simply having the authority to implement community consensus and enact bans consistent with policy. There was nothing wrong with the action, I was only commenting on trivial technicalities in the wording, so my apologies if this created any confusion. Alex Shih (talk) 13:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Comes across as perhaps a bit of a grey area. Admins can certainly perform blocks that are aligned with consensus at ANI, but the WP:BAN page states that admins can only perform bans "in certain topic areas", topic bans, interaction bans, etc. Essentially, as it's worded, admins cannot perform full site bans. However, WP:CBAN provides more information, essentially stating that admins can close the discussion and block if community consensus is clear to do so, and furthermore states, "Editors who are or remain indefinitely blocked after due consideration by the community are considered "banned by the Wikipedia community". The instructions there also state to document the matter at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions, but none of the entries at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions § Placed by the Wikipedia community have site ban information. Rather, only topic bans, interactions bans, 1RR limitations and such are listed there. North America1000 16:17, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

As it happens, I've just made that same point at User talk:Alex Shih. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, there you have it. Also, great minds think alike, and reading my post here must have given you a bit of déjà vu, eh? North America1000 16:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Hehe ;-) I just went over to document it and thought it strange that there aren't any others there. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
There is at least one (SlitherioFan2016). But I guess I am just grumpy... Alex Shih (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
It may be best to simply leave things exactly as they are, at least for now, per the wording of the Banning policy page and the overall status quo at the Editing restrictions page. North America1000 17:15, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I missed SlitherioFan2016. But it seems that's the wrong way to do it, and the {{Banned}} template puts them in the appropriate category - and that's all that's needed. I do agree it should be better documented, but I'll stick with the current way it's done. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
It seems our logging of community bans has been even more inconsistent than other aspects of banning policy. See sections 65 and 82 at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive555 for a few examples. If I had looked comprehensively I would probably have found many more. My personal advice is that we should at least start now. (and its a community ban--my personal understanding is that individual admins cannot place site bans; I also personally think there is community consensus to make this a community ban) This is not an official ruling, of course--no individual arb can decide for the committee. DGG ( talk ) 17:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
@DGG: Thank you for your input, which is much appreciated. North America1000 01:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Alt-accounts of community banned user

Shouldn't you also block the self-identified alternative accounts of OberRanks that are Husnock (talk · contribs) and Werewolfman07 (talk · contribs) since community bans mean they are no longer part of the community and can't edit under any account? Maybe this is a minor thing since he hasn't used them to edit in years, but I think it matters especially since Husnock is an account that formerly held admin privileges. --Pudeo (talk) 12:11, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

@Pudeo:  Done. See [8] and [9] for more information. North America1000 13:47, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

More rapper news for the list...

Mac Miller Dead, CNN
Rapper Post Malone Involved in Car Crash in California, NBC
Atlanta Rapper Young Thug indicted multiple drug charges, AJC

This is getting out of control.

AmericanAir88(talk) 03:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Talk template for page views

A hamster enjoying some carrot

Hello there, my friend. I know you use it. Do you know that template's name? I can't find it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:57, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Never mind. I found it. Thanks anyhow. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:04, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you kindly.
The hamster? Just a hamster. It's always nice to see a hamster deep in thought eating carrot. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak: Well, I'm still a fan of the talking geoduck (right) and v2. North America1000 01:13, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I can't say I'm a fan of it, but it is funny. Geoducks are gross, whereas hamsters are anti-gross. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:45, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak: No, I meant these kinds of fans. Also, have you been working on any food articles lately? North America1000 01:58, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Oh, those fans. Okay. :) Nope. No food articles. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:02, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak: Well, maybe you could work on some water articles... =] North America1000 02:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Mmmmmm, nutritious water. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:37, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2018)

The People's Republic of Angola covers the period of Angolan history as a self-declared socialist state established in 1975 to the time it was dismantled in 1992.
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Weird PROD problem

I nominated ABeam Consulting for deletion via PROD but a weird thing has happened. The date and time indicating when the seven days would be up has come and passed but the message the article is now eligible for deletion has not popped up like it would normally do. What do I do? Thanks. Lovelylinda1980 (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

The problem was resolved with a purge. Lovelylinda1980 (talk) 13:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
@Lovelylinda1980: Wow, I didn't even have to expend any energy thinking about this, since you figured it out. For more info, check out WP:PURGE. Happy editing, North America1000 15:48, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Northamerica1000, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

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  • User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
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  • User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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Edit invisibility requests

Could you please hide the edits of user:122.100.228.94? CLCStudent (talk) 15:51, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@CLCStudent: I thought about that, and personally would like to, but the content doesn't actually qualify for revision deletion. Yes, the vandalism was an image of a penis, but nothing grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive was stated in the edits or in edit summaries. While certainly objectionable in the manner it was added, the penis is itself not vulgar. North America1000 16:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Tying articles together

Should there be a new article somehow somewhere?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't know; I don't know much about these topics, other than drawstring-related stuff, which is self-explanatory. North America1000 23:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. I will sort it out. Many thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:23, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I might start drawstring bag. I made a commonscat for it earlier. Tons! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

If you start it, then I can potentially contribute. However, the topic itself may be a bit BORING. Ha ha! North America1000 08:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Food linkages

@Anna Frodesiak: Check out Roujiamo, Donkey Burger and donkey meat. Regarding Roujiamo, a case can be made that it is the world's first burger. North America1000 12:06, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Very interesting! So, yes, I could see that as the first burger and even the first sandwich. Ha! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Do you want video of Roujiamo? I can get that easily! Is video valuable? Also, we have no video of the flaming wok cooking thing. I can get that too. Great lead image, right? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

When I say "video of Roujiamo", I mean video of them taking the meat and chunks of fat, far less than they seemed to last year, out of the pot and over-chopping them up until it is an utter paste even if you tell them to stop and that they are ruining it and then in ends up with no texture at all and the whole thing is basically a wobbling pile of mostly fat that you swear you will never eat again as you bite into the overly salty mush inside an obviously under-salted or salt free, tasteless bread. Then you feel poorly about ten minutes later for about half and hour much in the way one does after stupidly eating a McDonald's hamburger. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:58, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: Hey, a video would work in an External links section of the Roujiamo article. You can use the {{External media}} template. We should work on this article and make it GA, or at least improve it a bit! North America1000 00:24, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
GA? Me? This is why I like you. You sense of humour! :) :) :) Have you actually seen what I write? I would be fired from a fifth grade school newspaper for being rubbish. :)
Also, my Wikipedia time is really limited these days. I should restrict my edits to blowing vandals out the airlock and that sort of thing.
As for a video, why not a Commons video in the article body, like Zongzi#Description or the super-awesome Puffed grain#Manufacture? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:29, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
That would work too. Perhaps even better, as the video can be seen directly in the article. If you add it, WP:READERS will view it. North America1000 14:16, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
I love Kit Kats in Japan!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Anna Frodesiak: I've added a bit more to the Roujiamo article, but sources are a bit minimal where I'm at. If you can read Chinese, my guess is that more Chinese-language reliable sources are available. For example, I was not able to verify anything in the Other names section of the article. North America1000 06:34, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Chinese sources for, say, bridges, are problematic. Sources Roujiamo would be a nightmare. For bridges, you have to sift through tons of meaningless sentences like "Great effort is being made to create this new improvement for the area." For Roujiamo, just find a source that is non-conflict of interest is difficult. Other issues are that the article will be bald on facts, bloggy, unreliable, full of rubbish opinions, etc. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak: Yeah, the Kit Kat thing is something. Regarding Roujiamo, oh well, don't need rubbish sources. As a consolation for you, there's always pizza! North America1000 18:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
There's always pizza

I am so overdue for pizza. I'm going to make some. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: I'm a big pizza fan. Well, I've improved the Donkey burger article a bit. It still needs more work, though. North America1000 19:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
A donkey burger... eat up!
I would probably eat a donkey burger. Would you? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Heeee Haawwwww!
@Anna Frodesiak: Absolutely, although I couldn't say whether or not I'd have it again after trying it. One article I found stated that the meat is tough, so it can be stewed for up to twenty hours sometimes. At that point, it would at least go down. Heeee Haaawwwww! North America1000 20:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Nooooooo, don't eat me!

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:16, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2018)

Musicians at a pub session, an event that involves playing music and/or singing in the relaxed social setting of a local pub, in which the music-making is intermingled with the consumption of ale, stout, and beer and conversation.
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Hello Northamerica1000, I had just filled the bare references with reFill. Is the ′linkrot′ tag removable now? --Gpkp (u • t • c) 06:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Gpkp: Reference #8 is still a bare url. North America1000 06:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000:, I've filled it up manually, so have removed the tag. Thank you. --Gpkp (u • t • c) 07:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
@Gpkp: Thanks very much for improving the article. North America1000 16:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome Northamerica1000. Once the article is into the mainspace from draft, does it need to be reviewed by a new-page reviewer? --Gpkp (u • t • c) 03:35, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
@Gpkp: When you AfC-approved the article using the AfC Helper script (diff), it was automatically marked as reviewed. If you are not familiar with other aspects of page reviewing, check out the AfC Reviewing instructions page, which has useful information. North America1000 16:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Northamerica1000. --Gpkp (u • t • c) 16:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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Portals WikiProject update #019, 22 Sept 2018

Portals progress report

Don't blink. You might miss something.

As of a few days ago, portals had doubled in about a month and a half.

Also, there were 98 incompleted portals in Category:Portals under construction. Now there are just 43.

The WikiProject page has been thoroughly revised

The goals, plans, and task sections have all been updated.

Orphaned portals need a home...

Many new portals are still orphans, and need links pointing to them:

  1. A portal link at the bottom of corresponding navigation footer template. E.g., Template:Machines for Portal:Machines. See examples of a portals link at the bottom of Template:Robotics and Template:Forestry.
  2. A {{Portal}} box in the See also section of the corresponding root article for each portal. If there is no See also section, create one and place the portal template in that. (Rather than placing them in an external links section -- they're not external links).
  3. A {{Portal}} template placed at the top of the category page corresponding to each portal.

All new and revamped portals can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Portal:Contents/Portals

This is the main list of portals.

Nearly 2,000 of the new portals need to be listed here.

They can be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet. Instructions are included there.

Customized Portal Rating system is now in place

Portals now have a new rating system of their own designed specifically to support portal evaluation! We were trying to use the standard assessment system for articles, but that doesn't fit portals very well.

Many thanks to Evad37, Waggers, AfroThundr3007730, SMcCandlish, Tom, BrendonTheWizard, and Pbsouthwood for their work and input on this.

The new system can be found at the top of all portal talk pages, in the WikiProject portals box. Those with "???" ratings need to be assessed, which makes up most of the older portals.

Most of the new portals were started out with an initial "Low" level of importance when their talk pages were created. Those deserving higher importance should be promoted as you come across them.

Improving the new portals

The starting point for new portals included minimal parameters and content, in the form of default values in the template(s) used for their creation.

Embellishing embedded search strings

So, for the search strings in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections, this was the magic word {{PAGENAME}}, which represents the portal's name. Unfortunately, the resulting term is alway capitalized, which limits its effectiveness as a search string for anything but proper nouns. Results for those two sections can be improved, by replacing the "PAGENAME" magic word with multiple search strings, and search strings that begin with lower case letters. There is no inherent limit as to how many search parameters may be included. Lua search notation is used. The more general the subject, the more subtopic search terms you may want to include. For example, on Portal:Avengers (comics), {{PAGENAME}} turned up nothing. But, when more parameters were added, as in the wikicode below...

{{Transclude selected recent additions | {{PAGENAME}} | Iron Man | Spiderman | Antman | Hawkeye | The Hulk | Incredible Hulk | David Banner | Captain America | Scarlet Witch | Black Widow | Tony Stark | Nick Fury | Age of Ultron | Infinity War | months=36 | header={{Box-header colour|Did you know... }}|max=6}}

... that returned several results in the portal's DYK section.

Be sure you make the improvements to both the DYK section and the "In the news" section, as they both require the search strings.

Expanding the slideshow contents

The default starting selection for the image slideshow in most new portals is whatever images happen to be in the corresponding root article (via the PAGENAME magic word). You can improve image slideshows by adding more sourcepages and filenames as parameters in the "Selected images" section of portals.

See Template:Transclude files as random slideshow/doc for instructions.

More exciting things are to come...

Portals used to take about 6 hours or more to create. Now, for subjects that have particular navigation support, we've got that down to about one minute each, with even more content displayed than ever. True, that means the new portals pick you, rather than the other way around. Creating a specific portal that doesn't happen to have the requisite navigation support is still pretty time consuming. But, we are working on extending our reach beyond the low-hanging fruit.

And efforts are ongoing to keep shaving time off of the creation process. Eventually, we may get it down to seconds each.

In addition to improving automation, we're always looking for new features and improvements that we can add to portals, and there is plenty of potential to expand on the standard design so that new portals are even better right out of the starting gate. Additional designs are also possible.

On the horizon, there are many more portals waiting to be created. And we can expect to see at least a few more section types emerge. I never expected slideshows, for example, especially not for excerpts. Who knows where innovation will take us next?

Keep up the great work everyone.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:08, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

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