User talk:Ohconfucius/archive34

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Apology to User:Simonm223

I was seriously lacking in tack when I made my last comment on User talk:Simonm223so I apologize for that. He may not like me writing on his page so I'll write it here. Feel free to delete this.

When we can have a nice chat about hi fi for me it makes the wiki experience much more fun and its much easier to be more civilized. So thanks for the chat and the info you shared :))) Aaabbb11 (talk) 12:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

• In the anonymous environment that is wikipedia, it's too easy to forget there's a meat-eating [sic], beer-drinking, music-loving person on "the other side". i am thankful to you for that opportunity. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 12:37, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

George Chakravarthi

Please be careful with your edits. By changing the style of some apostrophes you reformated some 'italic in apostrophes phrases' into bold phrases, I have fixed these. For some reason you changed some <div class="center" code to <div class="centr, which means nothing - also fixed. I have no idea why you removed some wikilinks which were unique within the article. If you wish to make any further edits, please explain them on the Talk page, and definitely don't use a script, if I see format changes as a result of your edits I will just undo them rather than try to accommodate your intentions. Emerald (talk) 09:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

• I apologise for changing <div class="center" to <div class="centr, I will try and fix the code. On the other hand, the botched italics is a result of some unorthodox use of single quotes to define the name of the work – italics usually suffice. Regards,

I have fixed the code. " no rhyme or reason for this link to a surname " in your opinion, what is your objection exactly to a link to the meaning of the surname? Emerald (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

• many surnames have intrinsic meanings, but it is not at all the custom to link surnames within the body of the article in the manner that you linked it in that bio. One would only do so if there was a very specific reason in a particular case to link the surname, like perhaps if the person was the first of his name, in a context that explained its meaning or derivation. Please do have a look around, and have a think – I hope you would agree that linked names like George W. Bush, Steve Jobs, Michelle Branch, Oliver Stone (or on the formulation "Eight months into Bush's first term as president...") would look ridiculous. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 09:48, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I have now fixed all the format changes. As I said, if you want anything else changed mention it in the Talk page, but don't do it - I am worried by the number of changes you make in one edit and the consequences they have. I will consider what you have said about the surname, but it is unusual, it does have a specific meaning and there are a couple of well-known people in the UK with similar names spelt slightly differently, so I believe people here would be interested. Emerald (talk) 09:56, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

• I would still oppose that link where you put it. I suggest that if you insist on its inclusion, consider putting it in the See also section. regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 10:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Great suggestion, thanks. I have now included a "See also" section. Emerald (talk) 10:49, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Darcy Clay

Jolene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUdKF60joY

• Thanks. Very unusual indeed, but it's not to my taste, at all. ;) -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:59, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

• How about the others? Do you like any of them? Aaabbb11 (talk) 14:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Screaming Blue Messiahs

Wild Blue Yonder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM5jRl4Ijtg

I Wanna Be A Flintstone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53baYQPcC4s

• I like punk rock but only in small doses. So I'm more of a fan of Split Enz and Midnight Oil. ;) -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Sharon O'Neill

For All The Tea In China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix9tVDbmaWU

Words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgfgVIrCYWs

Losing you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLlfnAbyIaU

Danger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A18a_cefmeY

Maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYA0zOMeuc enjoy Aaabbb11 (talk) 04:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Joseph Stanislaus Ostoja-Kotkowski Comment

Hi Ohconfucius, it seems you were over-hasty in adding the "cleanup|reason=WP is not a repository for resume" tag to this article - the man has been dead for 21 years. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

• @Bahudhara: Thanks for your comment. I did not realise the person was deceased. However, that in itself doesn't necessarily invalidate the observation that the bio resembles a resumé, because that is a style issue of a Wikipedia article unrelated to a person's existence. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

All About Eve (band)

Martha's Harbour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJqsjsybc30 Aaabbb11 (talk) 09:59, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

the Members

Radio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWQenFo9Xo 2:55 to 3:01

Elvis

Radio Radio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG-Lq6Kc-rQ Aaabbb11 (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

• My musical education was heavily shaped by the British New Wave era. Costello is one of my favourites from those days. I even have the 7-inch single of "Radio Radio"; my personal favourite is "Watching the Detectives". -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

• About half my class at school was into punk and new wave. A program called Radio with Pictures was our major source of info about what was happening. Costello was one of the first I really liked. My favourites were the first 3 albums and the fastest tracks off the 4th album, but still have other albums. Still quite like the clash. Aaabbb11 (talk) 11:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:TIES

Hi Ohconfucius. When updating articles for WP:TIES, please take care not to break table formatting, as you did here, here and here (I have fixed these three articles). Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 07:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I see you have updated your EngvarB.js to address the changing of "align:center" to "align:centr" - your script was also changing "color:xxx" to "colour:xxx". (Apologies if you already realised this). Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 07:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've tweaked the regexes for "color:" now. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 08:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

You're still breaking "color" markup, e.g. here (which I have fixed). DH85868993 (talk) 08:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I would also suggest you possibly/probably shouldn't be changing "U.S. Open" to "US Open" as you did here (which I have also fixed) - the article title is U.S. Open (golf). DH85868993 (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the "color" issue is resolved now. Thanks for that. However please note that I only fixed and notified you about articles you edited which happen to be on my watchlist - you possibly (probably?) broke the markup in numerous other articles before you fixed your EngvarB.js, so I would encourage you to go back and check all your recent edits. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 04:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Spoke too soon. It looks like your EngvarB.js still needs a bit more tweaking: [1] (was it possibly because there were two "color:"s on the same line? Just a guess). DH85868993 (talk) 05:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the eagle eye. The error is caused by the second colour not being an html color (with hash). I'll address that now and then review the previous articles I ran the script on. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 05:57, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Date format

How come wiki hasn't standardized on dmy? I met an ex mayor from the US recently who told me the US has gone metric unofficially. If US car manufacturer's want cheap bolts from overseas they buy metric. Drug dealers find grams convenient. So even the US can change. Aaabbb11 (talk) 09:09, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

• The real world is a mix of imperial and metric measurements, and people being conservative, changes come slow. Televisions, iPads, computer disk drives are measured in inches; aircraft cruse at 33,000 feet; cargo is measured in cubic feet; horses are measured in hands. Endianness is a hotly debated topic here in Wikipedia because many US editors are more familiar with the mdy format and can't or don't want to cope with dmy dates. Only there are sentiments from others who are unaccustomed to mdy dates and can't or don't want to cope with mdy dates, so there is an artificial line in the sand that keeps the peace between WP editor factions. I don't like it any more than you do but have to live with it. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Edits to Southport

Hi,

Your recent edit to Southport, amongst other things, changed "color" in CSS tags to "colour", breaking the CSS formatting. I've now reverted this, but I think you should have spotted that breakage before saving the change. In any case, if you can it's probably worth fixing the script to not make such changes within CSS tags.

—me_and 09:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

• Script now tweaked, thanks. I've gone back and reviewed the recent changes, and there are some affected articles. The change causes only very minor errors, and none of them display any obvious sign of errors in the read-mode of the articles concerned. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:51, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Script-assisted fixes per WP:TIES, MOS:NUM, MOS:LINK

Hello, I've noticed a tiny error caused by one of your scripts, presumably re MOS:NUM. In Australian Imperial Force Touring XI, it has amended "four second-class matches" to "four-second-class matches". One for you to debug when you have time. Jack | ^{talk page} 11:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Ohc script

Nationalities

Greetings! How does your "Ohc script" put up with major nationalities? For example, Italians aren't covered by your script, so I was wondering if it's just missing...? Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

• Hi, I've now tweaked. Up till the recent tweak, countries were only unlinked in certain contexts, such as when at the end of line (useful to unlink countries in infoboxes only), or where the pipe is misleading, like [[Italy|Italians]]. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 14:23, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, thanks! :-) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 20:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Common terms

Hi again, Ohconfucius! I hope you are doing well. Anyway, what do you think about linking [[Letter (alphabet)|letter]]? I was editing an article about a letter, Ayin, and I noticed that your script doesn't pick up that one. I was wondering if that should fall under "everyday words" mentioned by WP:OVERLINK? Especially in the language-related articles that might already contain links to some specific alphabet. Thanks for your opinion in advance! :-) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

• I don't know how prevalent this linked word is, but this is the first time I have come to notice it here on WP. I'm not on the whole bothered by it being linked in the Ayin article because it does seem to have relevance and some value. If, however, you find that it's pervasively linked in more general articles, please let me know. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:55, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your opinion, Ohconfucius. I guess I was looking it from a different perspective. I was thinking that since "Ayin" itself is a "letter of the Semitic abjads", and [[Semitic abjads]] is already linked, it might be somewhat redundant to link the term "letter" as well. I think [[Semitic abjads]] is the most specific item to be linked. Moreover, since the symbol for Ayin varies among different alphabetic systems (Hebrew ע, Syriac ܥ, Arabic ع, etc.), and all of those systems are already linked in the same sentence, that's another reason why I considered the link for "letter" redundant and overtly general.
  • I just realized that I was a bit unclear with my last post, but that's what I meant by referring to language-related articles: "letter" is always an overtly general term, and every letter belongs to some way more specific alphabetical system that should be linked instead. There seems to be quite a list of articles linking to [[Letter (alphabet]][2]. Please feel free to disagree if you feel otherwise! Cheers! :-) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 15:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Utilized in order to ...

I saw you tweaked Kitoye Ajasa to change "utilized" to "used" and "in order to" to "to". I would usually fully agree with the improvement, but these were quotations. I don't know if this was a script, and if so whether it could spot text enclosed in quotation marks... Aymatth2 (talk) 16:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

• @Aymatth2:The script ought to leave things enclosed in quotes. I checked the script, and it seems that the problem was caused by the lack of closing quote marks in one instance; in the other, the square bracket was not anticipated. I will adjust the script accordingly. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 01:29, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:40, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

2014 Hong Kong protests

Are there too many details? If so, can you remove them? Thank you. --George Ho (talk) 03:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

AC/DC

It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Wanna Rock 'N' Roll) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCs7ijNUVM Jailbreak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xnc1p7BMk Aaabbb11 (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

• Yay! -- Ohc ^¡digame! 14:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
  • "I Touch Myself" by the Divinyls ;-) -- Ohc ^¡digame! 14:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Boney M

Rasputin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg

• Oh, those Russians... ;-) -- Ohc ^¡digame! 14:43, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Crowded House

Private Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfjNRz-ZoBM

Don't Dream It's Over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20

Weather With You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8XcMG1EX4

DD Smash

Outlook For Thursday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TIj-l3nykw

non-pxecutive d$3Director

Your script has been doing something odd to non-executive directors for example at [3] and [4] --Rumping (talk) 13:21, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

When to add publisher or not

Hi, I've seen you recently made some edits to articles I have worked on, e.g. Yazoo (band), where among the edits you have removed the publishers from various sources. Please understand I am not complaining or trying to pick a fight, I'd just like some guidance as to when to include publishers or not. I'm looking at Help:Citation Style 1#Work and publisher and it says not to include the publisher when it is virtually identical to the work or journal name, which is fair enough, but has there been some consensus on this subject? Just want to know so as not to make the same errors on future articles, that's all. Thanks. Richard3120 (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Migration to TemplateScript

Hi Ohconfucius. I migrated test/MOSNUM dates.js and test/MOSNUM utils.js to TemplateScript, along with the changes we discussed in March. They're up-to-date with your changes to the equivalent script/ pages, and I added some unit tests for the underlying custom regex code. The scripts produce identical results on User:Full-date unlinking bot/Test environment and User:Dl2000/testtemp7. Are these changes okay? —Pathoschild 02:54, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Let me know when you have a chance to review the scripts. They'll be the baseline I use for the rest of your scripts, so I'll do those when these are live. —Pathoschild 17:29, 05 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. my life is tipsy-turvey right now, and so it may take a couple of months to settle back down again. i will let u know. regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 17:34, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Suspended restriction removed

Hi Ohconfucius, pursuant to several arbitration motions, all editing restrictions imposed on you have expired. Accordingly, you have been removed from WP:EDR. Thanks, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 21:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Common terms script

Hi Ohconfucius, I've been digging your Delink Common Terms script. Thanks for that. If I happen upon terms that should be added to the script, what is the best way for me to bring them to your attention? Start a list and every so often drop it on ya? I noticed the other day that "puppy" could be added, for instance. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:47, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Hiyo

I hate to feel that I'm asking for too much, while giving so little (though I am). However, could you please give your undivided attention to the article, The Style Council. All the best, for being the best Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 19:28, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Foreign domestic helpers in Hong Kong

Royals

Wedding of Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland, and Sofia Hellqvist.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Rev Theory

Hell Yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuh6D5Q_4I with Isle of Man TT video. Isle of Man footage like that surpasses any footage I've seen from other motorsports. Aaabbb11 (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Juliette anne winter - pro british champion boxer

Hi I read your article on cathy - was searching for Juliette anne winter as a reference as - but nothing written yet so am working out how to do that as new to wiki You stated cathy as the first sanctioned bbbofc English champion - Winter was actually the first ever Sanctioned bbbofc british title winner at super flyweight beating shanee martin - which happened earlier on that year before she boxed cathy for the English - I can send over references and information Tyler durton (talk) 17:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Early 2012 Hong Kong protests

I started the RM discussion a couple weeks ago. I invite you to the discussion since you edited the article. --George Ho (talk) 18:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

G'day

From oz - we tend to do OZ english for Oz citizens with no apparent connection to the mother country [5] - cheers JarrahTree 06:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Help:CS1 errors#bad date parameters

Greetings! I was wondering if you could help me with an issue related to the Help:CS1 errors#bad date parameters? At the page, one of the items in the list goes:

"...errors in |date= caused by errors in |year=, |month=, or |day=..."

It seems, however, that |day= isn't working, and it results into a following error message:

Unknown parameter |day= ignored (help)

The reason why I am willing to use the {{Citation | ... | year =... | month =(in letters)... | day =...}} instead of {{Citation | date= YYYY-MM-DD}} format, is that the latter doesn't fully work with the {{sfn}} references. You see, in the newspapers and journals, the dates follow the form YYYY-MM-DD, but the {{sfn}} references seem to work only when the it's referring to {{para|year}} (beside the author's last name, of course). The only non-functioning part seems to be {{para|day}}, which leaves an ugly error message at the end of the reference. Do you think this could be fixed? Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 19:09, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

• @Jayaguru-Shishya: Sorry, this is outside my knowledge or skill-set. Kindly ask at Help talk:CS1 errors. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 07:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Jayaguru-Shishya, the information at Template:Cite_web#Date should help you navigate the conditions under which YYYY-MM-DD works with |date= and when you need to use |year= in addition to |date=. If you don't understand it, post some examples at Help talk:Citation Style 1 and we will help you there. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

MOSNUM dates.js conflict with Regex menu framework gadget

Hi.

There is a bit of a problem I was hoping you could help me with. I have the Regex menu framework gadget enabled. It adds a "Scripts" heading to my lefthand sidebar and adds a "Custom regex" right underneath it. (That's what I want.)

Now, every time this Javascript command is executed:

importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js');

...another "Scripts" heading with another "Custome regex" entry is added. Right after it, a "TemplateScript" heading with a "Regex editor" entry is added.

Can you also reproduce this? Or is the problem on my side only? (Of course, I spent one hour and 13 minutes disabling and re-enabling each of my gadgets and imported scripts. I'd be surprised if the problem is on my side.)

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 21:21, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

This is true, and I myself have it three times on my sidebar. @Pathoschild: can you help/advise? -- Ohc ^¡digame! 07:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ohconfucius. The regex menu framework is obsolete and unmaintained, so it hasn't been updated to reflect modern usage. The duplicate menus happen because it assumes it's only loaded once, which is no longer true with gadgets and script frameworks.

TemplateScript is the modern successor to the regex menu framework. It has the same features, but also benefits from years of further improvements and is actively maintained. Here's a quick comparison of the features you use:

	Regex menu framework	TemplateScript
regex editor	✓	✓ improved with syntax highlighting
custom scripts	✓	✓ improved with editor object to simplify common operations
custom sidebars	Predefined "scripts" sidebar	✓ any number of custom sidebars
gadgets & scripts	✘ causes conflicts if used in multiple scripts	✓ built-in support (any number of gadgets or scripts)
compatibility	✘ unknown	✓ all skins, mainstream browsers, and ResourceLoader
keyboard shortcuts	✘	✓
save regex patterns	✘	✓

We should update your scripts to use TemplateScript. I updated your test scripts a few months ago, but since then TemplateScript 2.0 introduced several features that specifically address usage like yours. I'm actively migrating users away from regex menu framework; let me know when you'd like to migrate your scripts and I can update them for you.

(Codename Lisa doesn't need to do anything; I'll update the gadget to use TemplateScript very soon once the last few custom scripts on enwiki have been updated, and the problem will go away.) —Pathoschild 16:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gangsta.

I invite you to an ongoing RM. --George Ho (talk) 17:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Oxford spelling

Hi OhConfucious, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't change British Oxford English to the other form, as here. Lots of people think the former is wrong, when in fact it's not uncommon, so I'd like to maintain the distinction on WP. Best, Sarah ^(talk) 20:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Yevgeniy Fiks

Hi there, I've updated the Yevgeniy Fiks page to take out link spams. Please take a look and let me know if the page now works with the current citations. Does it pass Wiki standards so that we can take out the note on top of the article page? Marrkkymarc (talk) 19:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Scripts snagging complete load of pages

Hello, this morning my Wikipedia pages weren't completely loading, and by narrowing down, I discovered that when I commented out your scripts (in my common.js), pages loaded normally again. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 12:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you for your message. I will try to solve it ASAP. Kindly note that I am a bit snowed under because I am in the throes of a house move. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 16:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kacey Wong

The article Kacey Wong you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Kacey Wong for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tomandjerry211 (alt) -- Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 20:21, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

and the wrong way

The change [6] has converted hundreds of date entries to dmy, instead of converting the few dmy to y-m-d format.

The change [7] has dumped references for data, instead of turning them into real references.

Given the amount of manual work to be cleaned up, it is best to revert the changes starting with from the original text and adding some minimal changes that your scripting has failed to do. Guidod (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

@Guidod: I notice that you have reverted all of my changes to the article. Kindly note that text including embedded external links in the form of "The EV Charger Maps website is a volunteer run effort coordinated by EV Charger News that catalogs EV charging station information across the U.S. It contains information targeted for real-world use by electric vehicle owners" is considered WP:LINKSPAM. You need to refer to WP:CITE if you wish to create references in a "wiki-compliant" manner (cites need to be be independent, third party reliable sources). Also, parameters such as "|date=2009-10" are ambiguous (although we do not use ISO 8601) and are not compliant with our guidelines on dates and numbers, and it is entirely appropriate to attempt to correct. Also, there is one section where "Park & Charge" is linked four times, and this is considered overlinking. Thank you for your attention. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 06:54, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Date format script

Hey, OC. Are you still running your date-conversion script? If so, I have a category with 660 U.S. Olympic athletes that are supposed to be uniformly using American-style MDY dates in text, infoboxes, succession boxes, and footnote publication dates and retrieval/access dates. Please let me know if you're available for such a task. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:42, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) The documentation for the script is at User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates, including instructions on how to install it so you can run it too. I run it on most pages I spend any significant time editing. GoingBatty (talk) 02:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Indeed—well worth installing. Tony (talk) 02:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

@Tony1 and GoingBatty: Thanks, guys. I'm currently consumed with other semi-automated clean-up editing, and I was hoping to find a "dates clean-up specialist" to whom I could toss this little project (i.e. OC). Either of you fellas interested? I'm eventually going to need to similar MDY runs on 220 Canadians and DMY runs on 520+ Australians and Brits. Tony, you'll be happy to know I'm already using AWB to reduce the low-value links in these articles per WP:OVERLINK. It's a process. I'd prefer to spend all of my WP time actually editing and writing substantive text, but I'm sure you're familiar with that problem. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: I find that doing relatively repetitive tasks like running scripts can be a welcome break from the rigours and stresses of creating or writing text. I manage to combine both in this way that hopefully diminishes the risk of burnout. If you are currently occupied with other stuff, I will be happy to look at the articles you mentioned when time permits. Please indicate the category/ies concerned. Alternatively, paste your list of articles to User:Ohconfucius/list/todo. Regards. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 06:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Dirtlawyer—Unlike any other majority-anglophone country-related articles, Canada-related articles are permitted to go either way, but if already established and consistent, the format shouldn't be changed. Tony (talk) 07:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

@Tony1: Yes, sir. Apart from the footnotes, these Canadian swimmer articles are 90 to 95% MDY formatted in the infobox and text. The individual articles should be internally consistent, not mixed (and the ISO retrieval dates need to go!). Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 07:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

OC, per instructions I have added my request re Category:Olympic swimmers of the United States to your to-do list. In the near future, I will also have similar Australian, British and Canadian categories for your review, too, and others over time. Thanks for your help. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 07:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

@Dirtlawyer1: I've done a first run based on the above category – articles over 8kB that have not already been tagged {{use mdy dates}}. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 10:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Script revert

Hi Ohconfucious, I've been using one of your scripts for months now, but Bagumba has reverted me today here, and told me that he is going to revert all script edits here. I was wondering if you could either tweak the script or explain why the script is right and the CS1 text is wrong? Personally I've found it very useful and this is pretty much the first issue I've had in the past thousand or so uses. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:09, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

My revert is limited to Moses Malone. I have no time to track down other ones, plus wouldn't want mass changes without discussion.—Bagumba (talk) 17:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I must have misinterpreted your statement "I will revert the scripts changes", sorry. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

No problem. It's like me not noticing originally that your changes were from a script. It's why we discuss things.—Bagumba (talk) 17:42, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi

If you find time for it you can take a look at the articles Gustav Laabs, Lars-Åke Wilhelmsson and Rickard Olsson that I just created. Any help is appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:10, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

TAFI

Could you please take a look at TAFI. I have nominated a few articles that could need some input Anna Lindh, Yolanda Saldivar and Bill & Gustaf Skarsgård. If you find time for it please take a look.--BabbaQ (talk) 06:17, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Football

Can you help by improving / creating seasons in Cupa României or Liga II, if everyone will create at least 1 season, every edition will be done soon. Thank you.--Alexiulian25 (talk) 15:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

HKU council

Hi Ohconfucius. I am not sure about moving the HKU council list to the HKU article. The council members will change over time, while the HKU pro-vice-chancellor selection controversy should have a record of who was sitting on the council at the time the vote took place. Regards, Citobun (talk) 07:12, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

• Could you possibly add a source to the list? I have not noticed a full list anywhere among current articles I have read. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 11:47, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

University of Hong Kong pro-vice-chancellor selection incident has been nominated for Did You Know

"s" or "z"

It is a mistake to change all "ize" forms to "ise" in British English, which uses both forms. Please stop doing this - see Oxford spelling. Johnbod (talk) 17:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

SCMP

Tammy Tam will be editor in chief starting Jan 2016, so I've changed the article to reflect that. -- Fuzheado | Talk 13:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

2015 Ma–Xi meeting

I think the Wikidata item for 2015 Ma–Xi meeting illustrates very well the multiple names used for this historic interaction. The Indonesian WP is the only project to opt for the English WP title order, while Cantonese and Wu Chinese WPs call it the Xi–Ma meeting. I created the article at Ma–Xi out of a desire to alphabetize the names, but have come to question my decision because other WPs are not quite following suit. I originally placed all possible names in the lead, which was refactored to the infobox. I added "Meeting of Cross-Strait leaders" to that infobox when I saw that the Chinese WP article had been moved to that title. If the choice is not to use {{Infobox Chinese}} how do we neutrally mention the other names in use for this topic? Do we move it to "2015 meeting of Cross-Strait leaders" to follow zh.WP's lead? I considered making a RFC or requested move, but figured I may as well ask you first. Vycl1994 (talk) 22:48, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for your message. My feeling when I removed the box with all the names is that there is no real bearing on what it's known as is other languages to what it's known as in English. I don't think there is any global consensus on the English name anyway, and for an event that doesn't have an official name, unlike "Xi Jinping", it's quite natural for there to be many variants as to the name. I saw no mention in the article itself about the name order or any such, but if you feel any particular name is significant, perhaps we should think about adding sourced paragraphs to the effect to attest to their importance? Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 07:37, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok, your reasoning is fair too, especially since the situation has grown even more muddled; the Spanish and Vietnamese projects have chosen to name its respective articles, which didn't exist at the time of my first post to your talk page, 2015 Ma–Xi meeting. Vycl1994 (talk) 13:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

TAFI

If you want to, take a look at the article about Marie Serneholt which is this weeks TAFI article. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for University of Hong Kong pro-vice-chancellor selection controversy

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Spectre

Your last edit on Spectre (2015 film)‎ changed [[SPECTRE|Spectre]] to [[SPECTRE]], which isn't right in this instance. If you run through the article again with an automated tool to change errors, please set the tool not to change the capitalisation on this link. Thanks. - SchroCat (talk) 11:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

• Your comment is duly noted although I do not see why there should be this down casing in the article. Seems to be to be a real oddball, and a possible violation of WP:EGG if yo ask me. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 12:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

• See the talk page for the full details. No EGG, just a reflection of the film's use of the word in comparison with the use in other Bond films. - SchroCat (talk) 13:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Maybe, but I don't think any of that is relevant for WP purposes.-- Ohc ^¡digame! 13:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

• If you think there is a better way to pipe it, please let me know, but as it stands, capitalisation within the article would be misleading, but the main SPECTRE article needs to remain capitalised. This is the common sense way of dealing with it, regardless of the MoS. - SchroCat (talk) 13:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

• The down casing of an acronym is often controversial, and I don't feel it ought to be down cased willy nilly. I don't think that a commercial agreement to "reimagine" the title changes the fact that its origins are in an acronym. If it's misleading to refer to it in the article using UC, then linking to the term using a TC pipe would be equally misleading, don't you think? -- Ohc ^¡digame! 14:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

HK BLP eyeball?

Could use an independent look at [8] if you have a bit of time - thx. Dl2000 (talk) 03:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

• Looks very promising. I'll go through it properly when I have a few hours. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 07:29, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:People Like Us (film)

I started the second RM. I invite you for commentary. --George Ho (talk) 07:53, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Category:Cantonese opera singers should be renamed VOCAL ARTISTS 粵曲唱家

It is absolutely redundant for whatever purpose you set such page up. It is insulting to call Cantonese Opera Performers on Stage "SINGERS". Cantonese Opera Performers must be GOOD singers while those who can sing well are not necessarily Cantonese Opera Performers on stage. You have none of them on your list.

There are ONLY FOUR (all time) great VOCAL artists already listed here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_opera Name (Chinese)- all deceased long time ago Tsuih Lau Seen 徐柳仙 Siu Meng Sing 小明星 Cheung Yuet Yee 張月兒 Cheung Waih Fong 張惠芳 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/HK_FongYimFun_in_Singapore_1953_60326.jpg/300px-HK_FongYimFun_in_Singapore_1953_60326.jpg "Fong Yeem Fun 芳艷芬 performing outside the realm of Cantonese opera in 1953" did not make her a SINGER. Don't insult the 14 Cantonese Opera Performers listed below by calling them SINGERS. 1.白雪仙Bak Sheut-sin (retired from stage performance) 2.紅線女Hung Sin-nui (deceased) 3.關海山Kwan Hoi-san (deceased) 4.關德興Kwan Tak-hing (deceased) 5.劉惠鳴Lau Wai Ming (stage only) 6.羅家英Law Kar-ying (stage for over 50 years, TV and movies) 7.李香琴Lee Heung-kam (retired from stage performance) 8.李海泉Lee Hoi-chuen (deceased) 9.梁醒波Leung Sing-Bor (deceased) 10.龍劍笙Loong Kin Sang (stage only and total FOUR movies in 1960/70) 11.羅品超Luo Pinchao (deceased) 12.新馬師曾Sun Ma Sze Tsang (deceased) 13.鄧碧雲Tang Pik-wan (deceased) 14.任劍輝Yam Kim-fai (deceased) These FOURTEEN Cantonese Opera Performers spent decades on stage and master all the skills, singing included, as a career. 龍劍笙 Loong Kin Sang, for example, will put "The Purple Hairpin" on stage starting December 2015. It is not a concert. Loong Kin Sang "The Purple Hairpin" is enough to the world what the tickets are for.

• I set up the category back in 2008, when there was nowhere to classify these performers. No insult was ever intended. WP is a collaborative project, and if you feel that another category is more appropriate, please feel free to contribute anything you believe will improve WP. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 08:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Then, will you be willing to NOT put these 14 names there now knowing what you, I suppose, understand about how much more these Great Artists are? May I suggest, instead, you add 3, 6, 7, 11 and 13 of these 14 to the list below to do them the kind of justice you intended. Nine out of these fourteen are already where they belong to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_opera Heading Major Cantonese Opera (Stage) Career Artists include:

I am not a WPperson to say the least about my skill and cannot do the transfer myself. You keep whatever names left after these 14 are properly transferred. They are not my concern whatsoever. Thanks for your understanding.

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Hi, below is the page in Chinese for Cantonese Vocal Artists for your reference. 粵曲演唱家列表https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B2%B5%E6%9B%B2%E6%BC%94%E5%94%B1%E5%AE%B6%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8 Two sentences up top give all the clear idea what this list is supposed to represent, no costume live on stage. 粵曲演唱家列表列出演唱粵曲的藝術家。他們只會在觀眾面前演唱，而沒有穿上戲服。 Then here are the four all time great below.

   四大平喉／平喉四傑：小明星、徐柳仙、張惠芳、張月兒

Blind musicians who also sing Another well-known name on this list, a blind musician who sang as well, is 杜煥https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9D%9C%E7%85%A5

You will notice your list does not share a single name with this very authentic, but not recently updated, one at all. Is this page what you have in mind, but in English?50.92.34.40 (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

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Happy New Year!

Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. --BabbaQ (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Likewise, all the best for 2016 Dl2000 (talk) 02:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Translation request

Hello ohconfucius how are you? I've been trying to get an article translated and expanded on for awile it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Pabst_Blue_Ribbon . I wrote the article several years back and originally there was a Chinese version. It's now disappeared and no one has created a new one. It seems that your a 香港人and might be able to do original research on it. If you have any interest please get back to meNotgoingtotellyou (talk) 12:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Question

Hello,

I have just two questions for you:

1. When you access this website from your current location, is the website domain displayed as "blogspot.com" or is it displaying something else? (eg. blogspot.cn)?

2. Are you able to use the conversion tool? Is the conversion tool able to function properly when you use it? or are there error messages popping up?

Thanks. --JackonLee54 (talk) 09:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

• I believe that bloodspot addresses display always with the country TLD address from where the reader is. It may be google's own mirrors at work and seems to have no effect on the reading of the blog. As to whether the tool functions properly, I took this sentence: "銅鑼灣書店股東及员工失踪事件是指發生在香港銅鑼灣的一所樓上書店－銅鑼灣書店，其股東及工作人員、母公司巨流傳媒有限公司業務經理5人于2015年10月到12月陸續失蹤的案件，其中股東李波更是在香港境内失踪" and it was transliterated to "銅鑼灣書 dáing 股東 gĭk 员 gŭng sék 踪 sê̤ṳ iông sê cī 發生 câi 香港銅鑼灣gì ék sū 樓 siông 書 dáing －銅鑼灣書 dáing , gì 股東 gĭk gŭng cáuk ìng uòng , 母 gŭng sṳ̆ gé̤ṳ 流 diòng muòi 有限 gŭng sṳ̆ 業 ô 經理5 ìng ṳ̆ 2015 nièng 10月 dó̤ 12月陸續 sék 蹤gì 案 iông , gì dṳ̆ng 股東李波更 sê câi 香港 gīng 内 sék 踪" An interesting idea of yours, I'd say... Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 10:44, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. It is very much appreciated. Could you also test out this converter as well? What are your thoughts this time?

Any ideas for improvement would be appreciated. --JackonLee54 (talk) 10:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

The same input generates this: ""thùng lô vân sû tiam kú tûng khi̍p 员kûng sṳt 踪sṳ khien he chṳ́ fat-sâng chhai Hiông-kóng thùng lô vân ke yit-só lèu sông sû tiam －thùng lô vân sû tiam , khì kú tûng khi̍p kûng-chok ngìn-yèn , mû kûng sṳ̂ ki liù chhòn mòi yû han kûng sṳ̂ ngia̍p vu kîn lî 5ngìn yî 2015-ngièn 10-ngie̍t to 12-ngie̍t liu̍k sa sṳt chiûng ke on khien , khì-chûng kú tûng lí pô kiên he chhai Hiông-kóng kin nui sṳt 踪"". This is a lot more converted content than for the Min transliterations. I am afraid, however, that I am unable to help you very much more, or to verify whether these are correct as I do not know the dialects nor am I familiar with the diacritics conventionally used in this connection. As I said, I do think it will be useful to some people, but probably not for me at this stage. Best, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 11:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Censorship in China

I agree -- the situation on that page does look a little off too me. Not sure what to do about it, though. GAB^Hello! 02:22, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

GAB is putting together a sock investigation report. I've offered to help him and he mentioned that you might be interested also. I am sure that this is the work of wumao. You should see what they are doing to my talk page, it's hilarious. Classic 50 Cent Party tactics of attempting to distract. Hammersbach (talk) 03:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

China SPI

The SPI for Censorship in China is here. Thanks for your help, GAB^Hello! 03:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

List of state leaders in 2015#RfC: What would be a gender-neutral description for the Cook Islands royal representative?

You are invited to join the discussion at List of state leaders in 2015#RfC: What would be a gender-neutral description for the Cook Islands royal representative?. Greetings, Ohconfucius. Just wondered whether or not you could give your opinion on this long-running dispute. Many thanks indeed. Neve-selbert 04:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Causeway Bay Books disappearances

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Socks

Our old buddy Leugen9001 is at it again (see recent spi) so you might want to look out for new accounts making unusual edits on the pages the new sock frequented. I will be doing the same. Best, GAB^Hello! 02:31, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

• @GeneralizationsAreBad: One country, two systems seems to have received attention from suspected wumao. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 10:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, the odd thing is that Leugen's latest sock was not the same sort of 50 cent persona, so even that is not a guarantee. It looks like good hand bad hand to me. GAB^Hello! 11:40, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Policy discussion in progress

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Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution

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Link specificity

Hi, please don't change links like [[Chelsea, London]] to [[Chelsea, London|Chelsea]], London - this goes against WP:SPECIFICLINK. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:46, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gui Minhai

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• I have reviewed the article and opined that it is too controversial and campaigning in tone to proceed. Sorry. Andrew D. (talk) 18:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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