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Ōtaki

Hi - I notice you're changing Otaki to Ōtaki in a lot of articles relating to historical characters. It's normal on Wikipedia to give place names as they were at the time of an event, so if someone is listed as being "born in Otaki in 1890", then it's correct, since it wasn't renamed to Ōtaki until far more recently. If the place name is considerably different, it's usually listed in brackets afterwards, as in "[Franz Liszt] appeared in concerts at Sopron and Pressburg (Hungarian: Pozsony, present-day Bratislava, Slovakia)." (from Franz Liszt), and "[Min Patel was born] in Bombay (now called Mumbai), and educated in England". (from Min Patel). Grutness...wha? 10:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@Grutness Thank you for telling me this, I had no idea that this was a practice on Wikipedia Panamitsu (talk) 10:33, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
I don't think it's adopted as policy, so it's not a big deal, and with the minor change in the name it won't really make much difference - just didn't want you wasting energy on unnecessary edits :) Grutness...wha? 10:37, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Are We Dating The Same Guy? (June 13)

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This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of websites). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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Australian magpie

The Australian magpie article says that they were introduced to New Zealand in the fourth paragraph. It's odd for the first paragraph and the fourth paragraph to contradict each other. Australian magpie in New Zealand says the same thing. Jcitawy (talk) 06:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

@Jcitawy True true, I must admit that I didn't realise introduced species aren't considered native Panamitsu (talk) 07:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Your edits to flat white

Hello there I have restored sourced information which you deleted for reasons which are unclear. If you think this article contains original research please take the matter up on the Talk page and explain exactly which parts are original research and why they meet the criteria for OR. I would be happy to work with you on improving the article. Happy to discuss. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:21, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I just wrote an explanation on the talk page about why it is WP:OR, I've restored the page to my revision, but feel free to discuss if you still disagree. Panamitsu (talk) 04:36, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. You made a bold change which I reverted. The matter now needs to be discussed to see if a consensus can be reached. Please don't revert my reversions until a consensus is reached. WP:BRD Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Page numbers

Hello, thanks for your edit to, well, Hello. However, when citing book sources like you did there, please cite page numbers or at the very least chapter numbers/titles. Adding links to pages on Google Books/Archive.org can also be useful. I could have tagged the article but I thought just sending a message would be better. Graham87 07:06, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for letting me know about this, I've just added the page numbers now. Panamitsu (talk) 09:04, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks very much. I know it's a very minor point, but I just fixed the dash in the page range because en dashes are used in page ranges here rather than hyphens. If I hadn't fixed it, someone else would have come along eventually to do so, so it's not that big a deal. Graham87 14:20, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Wordle

I sincerely feel that the edit you deleted was appropriately placed due to the adjacent mentions of 2 similar predecessors of Wordle immediately prior to my adding another for which I included a link to the proof of the accuracy of my submission. In addition I have further documentation yet to submit that provides even more proof, showing that the gameplays identically to Wordle, albeit with textual user interface that was standard for the time in which it was created. If you believe my edit was misplaced in the article would you kindly suggest where it would be appropriately located. If you believe that this accurate historical information should not be included would you please provide an explanation as to why you believe so. Rldipaolo (talk) 10:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

@Rldipaolo I do believe that this basic game may have a place in the article, but I don't believe that it is notable enough for the lead section.
The reasoning for this is that it's not notable enough; if you search "word.bas" on Google, its only appearance is on that Vintage Basic website. As for the other games in the lead section, they're quite notable, having their own Wikipedia page to prove so.
What we want for the lead section is that the information gives a broad overview of the topic instead of technical information. See MOS:LEAD
Also, I just wanted to give a heads up, when you make references on Wikipedia, we try to put them inside of ref markup tags. Happy editing! Panamitsu (talk) 21:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: User:Panamitsu/sandbox/Jack Massey Welsh has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Panamitsu/sandbox/Jack Massey Welsh. Thanks! Dan arndt (talk) 10:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
@Dan arndt I talked with user @stwalkerster prior to this who was the one who salted the page. They told me that if the article gets accepted through AfC, they'd be happy to remove the protection. Thanks for the concern! Panamitsu (talk) 10:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox/Jack Massey Welsh (July 27)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Lauren Dickason trial

Hello Panamitsu,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Lauren Dickason trial for deletion, because it's a redirect from an article title to a namespace that's not for articles.

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@DreamRimmer I agree with your deletion. Thank you for tagging it! Panamitsu (talk) 04:02, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

homoromantic heterosexuals

Hi, the source you linked on the homosexuality article literally mentions homoromantic heterosexuals as an identity falling under the homoromantic umbrella. https://gayety.co/what-does-it-mean-to-be-homoromantic

Happy to discuss here rather than edit warring. Cheers! Tdmurlock (talk) 02:24, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Tdmurlock I'm not sure if I agree with having homoromantic heterosexual in the article because of how rare it'd be. Shall we change the example to something more common, such as homoromantic asexual? Panamitsu (talk) 02:30, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
a cursory googling demonstrates that there is indeed an online milieu consisting of people who identify as "homoromantic heterosexual", they even have their own flag. I would be in favor of adding some other identities under the homoromantic umbrella, personally, but I'm afraid removing homoromantic heterosexuals just because you perceive them as "rare" might be construed as homoromantic erasure (although, to be fair, people identifying as homoromantic in general seems to be rarer, broadly speaking, than people who identify as gay, straight, or bi.) Tdmurlock (talk) 02:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
That is indeed true, however content on Wikipedia needs to be notable and published under reliable and independent sources. For me, the results on Google are forums discussing the concept. The link you provided to me is on Fandom, which is considered unreliable and is banned as a source on Wikipedia. See WP:FANDOM
I am also in favour of adding examples, but I think we should add something more encyclopaedic. On your claim about "homoromantic erasure", I must add that changing it to something more common, such as homoromantic asexual, wouldn't be a form of erasure as it is a form of homoromanticism. Furthermore, I must remind you that I wrote the section about homoromanticism, so I'm not too sure why you think I'm participating in "homoromantic erasure". Panamitsu (talk) 03:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
The source you linked explicitly enumerates "homoromantic heterosexuals" as a specific flavor of homoromanticism. If that's insufficiently reliable or independent, then surely using the same article as a source for the existence of homoromantic asexuals is equally un-encyclopedic? That said, I've yet to see actual evidence that homoromantic asexuality or homoromantic heterosexuality is more or less common or rare. Tdmurlock (talk) 03:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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Are you still planning on pursuing this nomination? It was reviewed weeks ago without a response from you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 I didn't realise that there was something for me to do. Am I to provide better non-primary sources and then reply? Panamitsu (talk) 07:46, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
Coordinate with the reviewer, but basically yeah. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

About Auckland Throughbred Racing / Auckland Thoroughbred Racing WP:REDIRECT-d to some some section in Thoroughbred racing in New Zealand?

Hi Panamitsu,

I've agreed with your request here.

I do note that this 2 May 2023 article in The New Zealand Herald refers to an organization of the same name but without the tyop. Do you think it might merit a standalone article? Should it be WP:REDIRECT-d to some some section in Thoroughbred racing in New Zealand?

I would appreciate your guidance and opinions about this. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

@Shirt58 I do think it should have a standalone article. I created a link to it and because the page doesn't exist, I decided to redirect, although in hindsight I now regret doing this. Panamitsu (talk) 09:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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August 2023

Hey, assume good faith is a policy. Don’t delete my talk page comment that is aimed at improving an article. Jehochman Talk 10:30, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Jehochman Sorry, I didn't realise that your intention was to improve the article. I thought you were using the talk page as another form of Google. Panamitsu (talk) 10:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
No worries! Jehochman Talk 23:07, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for editing the Queer page!!

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POV-pushing against consensus

You are aware from e.g. this discussion that there is an existing consensus that women are overwhelmingly more likely than men to be the victims of intimate partner and domestic violence. Yet you have persisted in making edits like this in direct contradiction to that consensus. This is a behavioral issue. I ask you to cease editing the topic if you cannot abide by the existing consensus, or else figure out how to work constructively and collaboratively to build a new one. That would include taking a close look at the options presented in WP:RFCBEFORE before attempting to start an RfC. Thanks, Generalrelative (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@Generalrelative Thanks, but this is not a "behavioural issue". Another editor mentioned WP:CONSENSUSCANCHANGE, the consensus was met because no one in previous discussions mentioned the fact (or sourced) that the claim in the lede is under scientific debate. Which I have already said. Because those proposals never mentioned this, it'd be ridiculous to support them.
Your mention of WP:FRINGETHEORY is also questionable if even a literature review on 1,700 studies supports what you call a "fringe theory". This completely counters the WP:FRINGETHEORY article describing it as:
"Fringe theories in science depart significantly from mainstream science and have little or no scientific support.[3] Other examples include conspiracy theories"
No support, eh?
Please have a read through WP:FRINGE, specifically:
"Alternative theoretical formulations from within the scientific community are not pseudoscience, but part of the scientific process. They should not be classified as pseudoscience but should still be put into context with respect to the mainstream perspective."
and on WP:FRINGENOT
"Opponents to reliable sources will often argue that their opponents reliable sources are FRINGE because they spread false information or have a viewpoint which is not mainstream. Media on both sides of any issue can be shown through cherry picking to spread false information."
Now I certainly made a mistake with RfC and hope to do better, but please do not bite the newcomers with these "behavioural issues" insults.
Please keep your neutrality in check before accusing me of having behavioural issues. Consensus was not made on including the debate on gender symmetry. Panamitsu (talk) 08:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
You are continuing to push your point of view against an established consensus, most glaringly here. Whether you agree with the community consensus or not is beside the point. Knowingly editing against that consensus is indeed a behavioral issue. I would not like to have to take this to a one of the drama boards but will do so if it becomes necessary. Please consider taking a step back so we can both avoid wasting our time and energy in that way. Generalrelative (talk) 00:19, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Consensus was made on the "overwhelming victims" in the lede. Consensus was not, however, made on including the gender symmetry debate. I will now refrain from what you call "POV pushing". Panamitsu (talk) 00:44, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I have never argued that we shouldn't discuss the debate! See my recent post at FTN. We are required to discuss both the debate and where the preponderance of scholarship rests. Your statement suggesting that there is "no consensus" has the effect of sewing the seeds of doubt where there really isn't any. I therefore ask you to self-revert, and will be happy to work with you collaboratively going forward! Generalrelative (talk) 00:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
On a note of reconciliation, I'll suggest to you this literature review. It's from 21 years ago so not up-to-date in terms of the studies it discusses, but it makes the methodological case against the "gender symmetry" hypothesis with wonderful clarity. I've seen nothing in the intervening years that would in any way challenge his conclusions. And indeed, those more recent lit reviews cited at Intimate partner violence largely bear them out. Generalrelative (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
@Generalrelative: It's a good one. It lays critic to these gender symmetry ideas for a few reasons (as you would've read), mainly being that women experience more severe forms of violence, even if the victims of the genders are symmetrical. This I don't dispute, and haven't disputed. What I do have problem with, though, is that the wiki article says that women are overwhelming more likely to be the victim of domestic violence (ignoring severity, as afterwards it says women are more likely to experience more severe forms). I'm starting to think that we have been misinterpreting each other. Panamitsu (talk) 01:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I think you're right about us misinterpreting one another! And I really do appreciate you self-reverting. That takes integrity. Whatever differences of opinion or perspective we may have, I'm sure we can work them out with a bit of patience and AGF. Wikipedia is really a wonderful place in that regard. Cheers, Generalrelative (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Also: a friendly request to read WP:TALK#REPLIED. Editing or adding to your own comments after they've been replied to without clearly indicating what was altered (like this or even this), can muddle up the talk page thread for those coming along afterward, even if you add a new timestamp. No one will think less of you for sometimes going back and augmenting or retracting what you've said, so long as you indicate all changes clearly. Generalrelative (talk) 03:17, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, I wasn't aware of this and I will do my best to make sure that I follow it in the future. I'll add a few of these now. Panamitsu (talk) 03:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Awesome. Generalrelative (talk) 03:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
@Generalrelative:Before we proceed, shall we clarify what we mean in order to prevent any further misinterpretations?
Here's mine:
My concern is the number of which gender is victimised the most (percentage, fraction etc), it is simply what gender is victimised, it doesn't account for the severity of the violence (I don't dispute that males are more violent than females who commit violence).
Yours seems to include severity rather than just who commits the most. (Suggested by here). Is that correct?
Glad that we can solve our misinterpretations! Panamitsu (talk) 11:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Yup! I would only add that from the informal survey of literature I've done and my perusal of past discussions, it appears that the scholarly literature follows the practice of considering severity when discussing prevalence. Another way of saying this is that the definition of "violence" is extremely subjective, meaning that studies come up with wildly different results based on how they define the term. Studies with broader definitions (that is, including less severe forms of violence) tend to lean more toward symmetry, whereas studies which restrict their definitions to more harmful violence lean more toward asymmetry. The crucial point for me is that good social scientists are fully aware of this issue, and of the possibility for misinterpretation that would come from suggesting that there really is gender parity in domestic violence, which is why they overwhelmingly emphasize that women are disproportionately victimized. Note that what I'm saying here was said years ago and much more eloquently by a brilliant editor named Flyer22, who is sadly no longer with us. Generalrelative (talk) 15:57, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
@Generalrelative Oh yup, that makes sense now. We should go forward carefully because the previous discussions between us were filled with misinterpretations. Panamitsu (talk) 22:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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Catherine Island (Russia)

Hi, I noticed you disambiguated the Catherine Island page to Catherine Island (Russia). The article states it belong to Alaska (United States), not Russia, and the page should probably be moved to Catherine Island (Alaska). Bennv123 (talk) 09:16, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Nevermind, another editor has already corrected the disambiguator. Bennv123 (talk) 09:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
@Bennv123 Bugger. I was disambiguating multiple island names so I confused them. Thanks for letting me know! Panamitsu (talk) 09:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Details of Netsafe

Hi. I'd like to make a few changes to your Netsafe page, to correct some of the factual inaccuracies in your material. I hope you appreciate that they are made in a spirit of improving the page, and Wikipedai in general. Thanks Sean-netsafe-nz (talk) 00:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

@Sean-netsafe-nz: You are free to edit the article as long as they use reliable sources and adhere to any other policies. Your username suggests a conflict of interest, so I would be careful and make sure that you declare any conflict of interests. Panamitsu (talk) 00:59, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Ways to improve Driftwood fort

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@Lightburst Thank you very much! Panamitsu (talk) 21:28, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

gr

Hi @Panamitsu, what does "gr" mean? Yvanyblog (talk) 09:47, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

@Yvanyblog Erm hello Yvanyblog, it stands for "grammar"! Panamitsu (talk) 10:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
There's a list at Wikipedia:Edit summary legend, although I rarely see most of these in use.-gadfium 18:47, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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WP:SYNTH on Gynocentrism

This edit is a pretty clear example of original sythesis. You can't just go around putting together examples of what you think looks like gynocentrism and then include them in the article. The sources need to explicitly say that these are examples of gynocentrism. Thanks for your understanding. Generalrelative (talk) 05:13, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh okay, yeah that makes sense. Panamitsu (talk) 05:14, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Cool. Generalrelative (talk) 00:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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—Alalch E. 11:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

The best thing to do would be to create a table list of all the Poor Knights Islands within that article, and mention this island and its coordinates there. And area if possible. —Alalch E. 11:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
@Alalch E.: That is a much better idea. Thank you! Panamitsu (talk) 12:00, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
You're welcome. —Alalch E. 12:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
If you could come up with a similar solution for Bird Islet, that would be also good, in my opinion. A "Surrounding islets and rocks" section or something of the sort in the main island article. —Alalch E. 12:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
In Great Barrier Island#Geography there is already the paragraph: Great Barrier is surrounded by several smaller islands, including Kaikoura Island, Rakitu Island, Aiguilles Island and Dragon Island. A number of islands are located in Great Barrier bays, including Motukahu Island, Nelson Island, Kaikoura Island, Broken Islands, Motutaiko Island, Rangiahua Island, Little Mahuki Island, Mahuki Island and Junction Islands. That can be expanded to include all such surrounding islands, islets and rocks with some data, in table format. —Alalch E. 12:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
@Alalch E. Great idea, I'll do this tomorrow morning. Panamitsu (talk) 12:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Panamitsu, I have concerns that your recent island page creations (7 Sept 2023) have a similar pattern to that raised by @Alalch E. You are creating many stub articles for islands that could easily be discussed in the context of a larger island group. Eg: the Boat Group and its constituents, Betsy and Big, would likely be more helpful to the reader as a part of the larger group, Tītī / Muttonbird Islands; Bull Island (Antarctica) could be subsumed within Possession Islands; and even Buncrana Island and Bull Island could potentially be discussed within Lake Manapouri and Lake Wānaka respectively.
Can I ask, is there a particular goal you have with these page creations, a source you are following, or a set of criteria you are working towards? — HTGS (talk) 06:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
@HTGS Oh my bad, I thought the concerns raised previously were based on notability rather than that they should be discussed on other articles. The goal was that all of New Zealand's islands are covered on Wikipedia, the source is a database produced by Land Information New Zealand. Panamitsu (talk) 06:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
No worries Panamitsu! To be clear, I also think that combining the smaller island articles into their larger island groups also satisfies potential problems about inadequate sourcing—many of these small island articles end up being very small otherwise. — HTGS (talk) 03:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Fixing disambiguation

Saw you recently edited many pages to fix the disambiguation of Northern Knights to Northern Knights Football Club. Just pointing out that when fixing disambiguation you shouldn't change the display, so it should've been fixed to Northern Knights. Please keep in mind in future thanks --SuperJew (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

@SuperJew Thank you, I will keep this in mind in the future. Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply 20:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Big Lemon & Paeroa bottle

Hello! Your submission of Big Lemon & Paeroa bottle at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SounderBruce 19:21, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with white herons!

Great to see you creating the article about the Waitangiroto Nature Reserve: you beat me to it! I have some more sources about the Reserve and the Whataroa area I can add. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 00:21, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about The Goodnight Kiwi Stories

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Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 12:29, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Panamitsu - I've noticed a lot of fine New Zealand-related work coming from you in the last couple of months, both in articles and DYK nominations. While some of your early work seems to have been moved (temporarily) into draft space, it's all part of the learning curve that is Wikipedia, and I wanted to reinforce the fact that your work is appreciated here by awarding you with a barnstar! :) Grutness...wha? 03:47, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! —Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply 03:50, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
For surviving the Wikipedia learning curve and adding significant input to Wikipedia, especially New Zealand articles! Grutness...wha? 03:47, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Korea Job World DYK

I've suggested a new ALT2 hook on the DYK nom page. I noticed you haven't responded yet so I decided to follow up on your user talk page. Any thoughts on the new hook? #prodraxis connect 13:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

@Prodraxis I think it's good although I personally prefer the original or ALT1. This is because ALT2 doesn't have a time frame. This could mean 7 million since 1880 or 7 million in 1 day. —Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply 13:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
@Panamitsu: We can go with ALT1 in that case. :) Sound good? #prodraxis connect 14:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lemon & Paeroa

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lemon & Paeroa you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rjjiii -- Rjjiii (talk) 09:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi Panamitsu, have you read my comments on the review subpage? Rjjiii(talk) 06:54, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
@Rjjiii: I've just had a look at them now. Thanks for reminding me, I almost forgot. —Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply 06:57, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Postcard from the Coast

Postcard from the West Coast

Wednesday 20 Sep, 2023

Kia ora koutou; so good to be a Wikipedian at Large on the West Coast again. • I've been setting up visits and field photography trips to Karamea (Oct 15), Fox Glacier (Oct 2), and Whataroa (Oct 9), and working through the typewritten Whataroa South Westland: Centennial Report 1879–1979 • Great work from Panamitsu creating the Waitangiroto Nature Reserve article, and Paora with Gerhard Mueller and Kere Tutoko (Q122695369). Prosperosity created Wikidata items and Commons categories for most of Hokitika's public sculpture, and I added over 100 photos and more items • Hoping to tag along on a kōtuku tour, but I'm also approaching photographers who've taken good pics of the colony about releasing their work for Commons • We should improve the kōtuku and Waitangiroto River articles with journal articles—and the Whataroa River and Waitangitāhuna River articles could do with a tidy up (there's a great article in Tane about how the former split in two, and the implications for the Waitangiroto) • Coming up are the Glacier Country tourism articles: can I recommend Lynley Hargreaves' new book Vanishing Ice as a reference? • Gillespies Beach Beginnings is recently transcribed and available in Wikisource as well • Keep at it folks, and I'll drop you a line in a week and a bit. — Giantflightlessbirds
Black and white aerial photo of small West Coast crossroads settlement surrounded by forested mountains
Whites Aviation 1958 aerial photo of Whataroa

Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:33, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lemon & Paeroa

The article Lemon & Paeroa you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Lemon & Paeroa and Talk:Lemon & Paeroa/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Rjjiii -- Rjjiii (talk) 11:01, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

AWB

Hi there. Please have a look at WP:AWBRULES: edits like this one which have no impact on the rendered page shouldn't be made. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: Another user mentioned that this fix is indirectly cosmestic as it removes the opportunity for vandalism, but I am a bit dubious about this idea so I'll agree to stop. —Panamitsu (talk) 05:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
The edit removed Category:Redundant infobox title param, which is displayed on the page. That changes the rendered page output, which makes the edit not cosmetic. There is longstanding consensus about this sort of change. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:38, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
@Jonesey95: I actually got the idea after a bot request for this was declined due to it being "cosmetic". It doesn't matter now as I have stopped. —Panamitsu (talk) 01:44, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

DYK for The Big Apple (Waitomo)

On 25 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Big Apple (Waitomo), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that there is a 7.5-metre-tall (25 ft) statue of an apple (pictured) in Waitomo, New Zealand? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Waitomo Big Apple. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Big Apple (Waitomo)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

@Panamitsu, great work on this! Love seeing NZ on the main page. Chocmilk03 (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Waitangiroto Nature Reserve

On 27 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Waitangiroto Nature Reserve, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Waitangiroto Nature Reserve is the only known nesting area for the eastern great egret in New Zealand? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Waitangiroto Nature Reserve. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Waitangiroto Nature Reserve), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, Panamitsu, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see that you now intend to devote some of you editing time to writing about women. When you feel ready to create your first biography. you might find it useful to look at some of our essays, perhaps starting with our Ten Simple Rules. If you would like others to see your interest in the project, you can sign up under "New registrations" on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 08:25, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2023

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DYK for Brad Olsen

On 30 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Brad Olsen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as a child, New Zealand economist Brad Olsen would write notes about stock market trends while watching the evening news? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Brad Olsen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Brad Olsen), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Schwede66 00:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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