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Hello, Per Ardua! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gimme danger (talk) 18:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Kuara (West Bengal)[edit]

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No longer. :-) Per Ardua (talk) 06:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Could you explain please? Thanks SpitfireTally-ho! 06:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
User 122.160.26.24 over-wrote Kuara with a new article about a village in West Bengal. I've now moved this to Kuara (West Bengal), reverted the changes to Kuara, and linked the new article from the disambiguation page cited at the top of Kuara. Per Ardua (talk) 06:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ho-ho, looks like you understand what you're doing :P, I thought it might have been a cut and paste move, but obviously not. By the way, the article Kuara (West Bengal) will require a substantial rewrite, but no obligation on you to do that SpitfireTally-ho! 06:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to re-write it a little, but it still needs work. Per Ardua (talk) 06:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daher (clan) listed as a Stub[edit]

I have noticed your recent edits to Daher (clan). You have added the {{stub}} template. This is fine and your contributions are appreciated. But in future, to aid in the expansion of articles, such as this one, please use a more specific stub template. A list of stub templates can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/List of stubs. Thank you. -- Patchy1(talk) 10:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page archive[edit]

Although it is completely up to you, with what you do with the comments on your talk page, it is preferred by Wikipedia that you archive your talk page. See here for more details. -- Patchy1(talk) 03:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, done. Per Ardua (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Jerusalem Kollel[edit]

What do you want excactly from the page The Jerusalem Kollel. Agrub (talk) 13:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have a read of WP:GROUP and WP:RS. The article at present doesn't establish the notability of the organization, using Wikipedia's definition of notability and reliable sources. I've looked for evidence online, and can't find any. But if you can find some, I'd be happy to help you improve the article to prevent it getting deleted by an admin. Per Ardua (talk) 13:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


a new citation has been added that should satisfy the requirements. Your thoughts? Waky02 (talk) 16:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's difficult to say, since the citation isn't available online. On its own, no, that source as cited doesn't prove notability according to WP:GROUP. What does the article say about the JK? Does it simply mention it in passing? We have no way of knowing. This article needs multiple, reliable, verifiable (per WP:VERIFY) sources supporting notability. Keep looking, and so will I. Thanks, Per Ardua (talk) 17:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think i can get a copy of said article. i also believe it is entirely about the kollel although i have only seen it in passing. Waky02 (talk) 17:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i have received the aforementioned magazine article how can i send it to you? Waky02 (talk) 12:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have access to a scanner? If it's a small clipping, you could upload it to WP:COMMONS. You could also ask at WP:Help desk, where the experts on this sort of thing hang out. Per Ardua (talk) 12:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i have it as a pdf, but i believe it is still in copyright. send me an email at my user name @gmail and i will send it you if you would like. Waky02 (talk) 21:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Acappella[edit]

I received your message regarding the Acappella (group) edits. I work for the Acappella Company and made the edits at the direction of Keith Lancaster, the company's founder and CEO. Some of the material I pulled was from the Acappella official bio that we use and some of it I wrote myself based on historical info. Since I'm not the actual owner of the material, but I'm working on behalf of the owner, how should it be referenced/attributed?

Thanks! WesMcK (talk) 05:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)WesMcK[reply]

The copyright owner can contact the admins as described on WP:Contact us/Article problem/Copyright, or you can contact them on the owner's behalf. The admins can then advise on how to give permission for use of copyrighted material, or on making the material available under a suitable license. For more detail on the legal issues of using copyrighted material on Wikipedia, see WP:COPYRIGHT. Thanks, Per Ardua (talk) 10:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Danny B. Harvey[edit]

Good catch on that copyvio, I always seem to miss the MySpace ones. Keep up the good work. :) t'shaélchat 09:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Per Ardua (talk) 09:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Duane Vander Klok[edit]

Ok so I went a little too far by changing his book titles, but the other statements were completely true... perhaps I should have added to, rather than replaced the info in his stub. I guess I'm just not very tolerant of folks who get rich off other peoples misconceptions, and I was in a sour mood. Either way, I think we need to link his little stub with some mega church articles. Davevanos (talk) 15:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Defne Ayas[edit]

Hi, I replaced your A7 tag on Defne Ayas with a G12 tag because the content is a word-for-word copy from this site. Let me know if I did something wrong. Jafeluv (talk) 11:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Per Ardua (talk) 11:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Rick Cusick[edit]

Hello Per Ardua, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Rick Cusick - a page you tagged - because: Article claims importance/significance of the subject. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. SoWhy 13:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, article does assert notability, and I shouldn't have speedied it. Many thanks for the friendly update. Per Ardua (talk) 04:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Too Sweet[edit]

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Removal of mention of cookies[edit]

If you visit the website of CommunitySouth bank, you will notice that they place a heavy emphasis on the free cookies offer. I think that with respect to the bank, these are notable and should not be completely removed. Seemed a bit haphazard and quick. JB418 (talk) 18:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment CommunitySouth Bank & Trust reads like advertising masquerading as an article: please see WP:ARTSPAM. It will get deleted by an admin in its present state. Per Ardua (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Tour de Force[edit]

I agree, I must have overlooked the link to the Wiktionary on the right side of the screen.--Orosius (talk) 04:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re. the school stub[edit]

Hi. The total content was simply this: Harper's choice middle school is located in Columbia, Maryland's Village of Harper's choice, one of many public middle schools in Howard County. Opened in 1973. It was two sentences which basically (a) claim it's a school in Maryland and (b) it opened in 1973. There is no real content beyond these declarative statements and the poster had just put up a NN bio minutes before. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a read of WP:A3: "However, a very short article may be a valid stub if it has context, in which case it is not eligible for deletion under this criterion." As an admin, it's critically important that you understand this and don't delete stubs a few minutes after they're created. Per Ardua (talk) 05:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As an admin, deleting contentless stubs is exactly what I do, among other things. It is up to the original poster to put up something of content under WP:STUB. There is also WP:BOLD to consider. Two sentences are not an article and there are far too many of these things being placed here every day and nothing gets done with them; at least you tried to rescue this to your credit. It was also determined that most middle schools do not fall under the criteria for inclusion and there is no indication that this one is any different. I won't delete the entry again since you rescued it to some degree, but in the future, please don't jump on my back or that of any admin (or other user) for simply doing our jobs. Thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article was only a few minutes old. Please give new authors time: this stub was definitely not eligible under A3. Where was it determined that most middle schools don't fall under the criteria for inclusion? According to Wikipedia:CSD#Articles: An article about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. "Nothing gets done with them" is only a valid argument for an article that's had time to have had something done with it. Per Ardua (talk) 05:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recall a discussion a few months ago on the admin noticeboard; there were a lot of well-meaning middle school students who were putting up substubs on their schools much like this one and creating cleanup tasks. The result of the discussion was anything below high school was probably not worthy of inclusion. I say "probably" because there are a few notable middle schools which are chartered, have certain academic standards, a long local history, etc. You're correct in pointing out the criteria since the discussion was just a that, a casual discussion to deal with stubbish middle school articles and not a change of the rules. Anyway, it's up and it's staying. I hope this addresses your concerns. Thanks for your diligence. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Jimmy Alvarez[edit]

My apologies for the trouble. I am new to Wikipedia and started writing the article. I was leaving and figured I would edit it later. I have since edited it and believe I have made strides to fit within the guidelines. The article gives background on this radio program, the hosts, the format, the service to the public as per FCC requirements and information about the network. Any suggestions would be appreciated and I will update as you recommend.

(Jimmy D. Alvarez 05:06, 27 July 2009 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmy D Alvarez (talk • contribs)

Hello, I'll reply at the article's talk page. Per Ardua (talk) 05:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can go to the FCC Website and confirm all the information about the tenure. Licensing information can be provided if needed. As far as website validation not sure how to go about that. We can provide direct validations at ARN, KROQ and Planet radio if needed.

The challenge is many people contact TNN Radio to get bio and show details. So much so, it is difficult to keep up with the requests. This format would be more suitable for the public interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.39.10.169 (talk) 17:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An additional site you can validate some of the information is at S.L.A.M. Magazine. You can validate a recent article for the Green Day album. Also forthcoming are articles on Depeche Mode, Midnight Hour and The English Beat. those will be posted shortly if not already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.39.10.169 (talk) 17:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect of Article[edit]

Thanks for the assist, I wasn't sure how to code that. Could you tell me how to code that appropriately to avoid the same mistake in the future. IlliniGradResearch (talk) 10:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help: I'll post at your talk page. Per Ardua (talk) 08:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deleyion Shanghai Corporate Pavilion[edit]

effective marketing (Shanghai) Co.,Ltd is authorized by Shanghai Corporate Pavilion to create this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Expo2010 scp (talk • contribs)

Military Interdepartmental Purchase Request[edit]

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Removal of PROD from Tour de Force (expression)[edit]

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PlanGuru Tag[edit]

Can you please tell my why you have tagged PlanGuru? This is not promotion!! Read the article. It states facts about a budgeting software company as well about it's competitors. Read the other budgeting software articles on wikipedia and then try to challenge the motivations of this article. Please do not delete and explain yourself thoroughly as to why you think it is worthy of being tagged for speedy deletion... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennyp22 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try to edit the article so that it only describes the subject and why it is notable, rather than why you think it's a good product. I also recommend that you chop the rather long section about the company, since the article is ostensibly about a product and not a company. To support any claims of notability, you will need multiple, reliable, verifiable secondary sources: see WP:Notability, WP:V and WP:RS. Per Ardua (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I am adding two sources to the article and am making the recommended changes... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennyp22 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added two sources, edited out parts about the company, changed the language and added facts about the product and deleted the talk about the product that you considered "advertising." Please let me know what you think... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennyp22 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the version attached to your user page, the only sources you have are written and maintained by the company that makes the software. They are reliable sources for FACTS about the software- but they in no way establish notability. Try to find a third-party source, like a newspaper or magazine that has put out an article mentioning it. --King ♣ Talk 18:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dePRODing of articles[edit]

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Biting[edit]

To apply a speedy tag to I whant to create a page was definitely newbie-biting. It was a perfectly valid start to an article, albeit on a silly title. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 15:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I guess you're right, I should have moved it rather than speedy it. This was the unintended result of a careless error. Thanks for the heads-up. Per Ardua (talk) 16:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vinyl Life[edit]

My article on Vinyl Life that you elected, too quickly for deletion, passes WP:BAND #5. It sure could use improvement but this article is a stub and will get expanded. WP:MUSIC says a band is notable if it "has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable." I've added four non-blog reviews/articles and all of the references are highly reliable. You should be more careful before electing articles for deletion Bech86 (talk) 20:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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