User talk:RB972

Welcome!

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earlier posts[edit]

RB972, despite what you may think, you don't know the man you're persecuting like I do, so YOU discontinue posting your crap, or I'll take measures you'll regret. [this comment was left by user:Trustjms -RB972]

I'm just posting the facts. I believe every individual has the right to come to their own conclusions. You'll take measures? Like what? RB972 04:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Jung Myung Seok page[edit]

Thank you for reporting Trustjms on WP:AIV. There seems to be some controversies on the Jung Myung Seok page. However, please refrain from making personal attacks as you did on the talk page — "These cult guys sure are nuts." Comment on content, not on the editors. — ERcheck (talk) 15:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for helping! Actually, that comment was not made by me, but I will pass your warning on to the one who made it. RB972 15:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. When all editors don't sign their posts, it is sometimes confusing who said what. Thanks for not taking offense at my misplaced warning; I do appreciate that you will pass it along. And, as you may have noted, the reported editor has been blocked for trolling. (BTW, I mistakenly posted this info to your user page. I've moved it to your talk page and will remove it from your user page.) — ERcheck (talk) 15:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Providence (religion)[edit]

The article you wrote, Providence (religion), is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related articles. A stub marker or other template doesn't count - please put in an actual category in the article. Eli Falk 10:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

about drew rosen. AND TO i dont care if u think it is vand. its the truth, and if you watch football you would know that. eaglemaneagles

they werent supposed to. i hate TO and Rosen. ima eagles fan, and i think taht the world should know wat these guys did to us. i remeember one time therre was a post about don. mcnabb, and it didnt get changed for a week. how come this got changed in to seconds.

that still didnt answer my question about dmac, and anywaqy y do u care

Hey man[edit]

You tread in interesting country... best to cultivate a friendship with an admin in your timezone... to look over you shoulder so to speak... :) SatuSuro 11:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC) Wow - just looking at your contribs page - you need flack jacket and armoured backup for that SatuSuro 11:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC) I have quite few admins on my talk page - have a trawl if you need to go separate from standard WP:AIV etc SatuSuro 08:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Watching over an article[edit]

No question, one of the challenges for Wikipedia is maintaining the quality of an article where only one editor is trying to preserve NPOV. There isn't any guaranteed way that I know of to accomplish this, but I do some suggestions. First, regional noticeboards are a good thing to try; you've done that. Second, if there is a wikiproject related to this (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory), you could mention something on their talk page.

Aside: I suggest not going into detail about the rationality or lack thereof of a problem editor, but rather saying that there is an NPOV problem with one editor, and though it has stopped in the past few days, you're concerned that it might become an issue in the future. What you'd like to do is have a couple more editors put the article on their watchlist. [It's on mine, but then, so are a lot of other pages.]

A third possibility is to look through the article history for edits by other constructive editors. I did this, and found two editors who are (more-or-less) still active: User:CaptPorridge and User:AirBa. I suggest you drop them a note and ask them to help.

A fourth possibility is to check similar articles (Reverend Moon?) and find a couple of editors who seem simpatico; drop them a note with a complement and ask them if they would mind occasionally helping out at this article as well.

Fifth, if this continues to me a matter between just you and one other editor, it qualifies for Wikipedia:Third opinion, which is a way of attracting other editors to it.

Finally, if things get problematical and you don't see me around, just drop me a note, and I'll see what I can do personally to help. -- John Broughton (☎☎) 13:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism tag[edit]

I'm pretty sure your tag on User talk:62.224.216.124 didn't work. Check it out? Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 00:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism issue[edit]

Hi there, you left These messages on my talk page saying that I have vandalised wikipedia on the page mind even though I have not. My username is not anywhere in the page history, please explain this further. Thanks and please reply on my talk page. Telly addict

My aplogies, it seems a vandal in which you warned (209.244.187.8) has been impersonating you and warning me on my user talk page (shown here) but is writing the message instead of using a template., this showing that its fake. Although this IP wrote your username he/she forgot to add a link to your userpage in your signature. You can tell this was him/her because on his contribs it shows that he/her left a messge on my talk page (shown here). In a detailed look it is shown here. What do you think we should do as he's impersonated you and vandalised wikipedia in general? I'll remove the false warning messages off my talk page as I'm not in the mind page history so I can't of vandalised it. I know this seems hard to understand but do you understand what I mean??. Please reply on my talk page. Cheers!!!! Telly addict 16:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's OK, he/she has been blocked now, This was a little clumsy of the user though as you mentioned, like I would warn myself even though I havent vandalised!! I deleted the warnings as they were clearly false on my talk page , also... did you ask the admin MrDarcy to block the user??? Cheers for your help. // Telly addict 21:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Slipknot Image Test[edit]

Hello, I don't remember ever editing a slipknot image, can you please tell me what the message you sent me was referring to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.26.48.57 (talk) 11:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

In case you come on with another IP I replied here. RB9 7 2 19:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to VandalProof![edit]

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The discussion in Stryker (disc jockey)[edit]

I wasn't really looking for a lecture on notability, though it's always good to be reminded of it no matter how many times I've seen it before. Thank you for your thoughtful advice and comments. I still agree with WP:IAR (that "If a citation does not meet the guidelines for reliable sources, it does not necessarily mean it's unusable.") and in this context the the petition can be a useful citation. However, now that I kind of sit and think about it I'm not really defending the petition because I think that's a good argument, I'm doing it because the conversation between myself and Jimmycracker got so personal. In a way, agreeing with him would not just be about changing an article but admitting that he was right to call me an idiot, crazy, or a troll. I'm not going to say that on the talk page, but I thought I'd let you know and give you props for your conflict resolution skillz. :) -- Craigtalbert 11:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

JMS[edit]

Thanks for your great help. I will try to keep up with the page. I translated some poorly written news in Chinese, and hoped that a small piece of jigsaw would be available to international community. There are a lot of sources in Korean and Japanese seem more solid and credible than my sources, unfortunately I know neither Korean nor Japanese.AirBa 02:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting vandalism[edit]

Hi RB972, I ran into you a few times reverting vandalism. I'd like to ask that you examine the edit history when performing reverts to ensure the last good version is restored. On Scotch College, Melbourne in particular I saw that some of your reversions didn't catch everything. This sometimes allows vandalism to slip through and makes it hard to determine where to revert later on. Hope this helps. -SpuriousQ (talk) 10:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User 195.195.235.12[edit]

I have noticed that at User talk:195.195.235.12 you have left a warning indicating if this user vandalized again, the user would be blocked. On February 6th, 2007, he vandalized Dartfish, as can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dartfish&action=history. I have left him a warning, but as he has vandalized before and had last warnings, I think he should be blocked. I am not an admin, and cannot block him. Do you know how to have him blocked? Thanks. - MSTCrow 03:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've reported it at WP:AIV. If it had been promptly reported (I don't know for sure that it wasn't, but I'm doubtful), it probably would have resulted in a week-long block. As it is now, it's probably 50-50 whether an admin will do something (and the only reason they might is because of the two prior blocks; otherwise, this report is quite stale.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jung Myung Seok edit war[edit]

Hello, I have de-listed the dispute at WP:3O and requested edit protection for that article until things have been cleared up. It might take a little until I have fully appreciated the situation and give my opinion on the talk page, but here are already a few things, I'd like you to consider:

Third opinion requests have to be neutrally worded, no matter what blatant policy violations might have occurred. "Content dispute at Talk:Jung Myung Seok." would have sufficed.

Upon closer inspection of the article's history, one might find both, you and QCA in 3RR violation. You're not alone here on Wikipedia, especially if policies are being violated. Do not invest yourself in revert warring but try to get a third party involved before you might find yourself under administrative scrutiny as well.

Take care - Cyrus XIII 20:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested admin review at WP:AN/I of this case of possible sock puppetry. Until the request is reviewed, and as long as the page protection stays in place, I suggest that you work on some other articles. And do heed Cyrus's advice - while it's commendable that you're spending the time and efforts to keep this article to Wikipedia standards, you also need to trust the system - don't violate 3RR (or any other rule) because you feel you have to.

The article is on my watch list, but so are more than 1000 other pages, so if feel you need another editor to get involved immediately (more or less), just drop me a note; I'll notice that faster than a change on my watchlist.

Similarly, since Cyrus XIII has become involved, you should feel free to drop him a neutral note in the future, something like "Hi - things seem to be heating up again at Jung Myung Seok - would you mind taking a look at some recent edits?", if you feel you need the eyes of more editors. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record, I didn't purposely violate 3RR, I violated it by a minute and undid it when I realised (though I reverted some time later again). RB9 7 2 03:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RB972, just to let you now that QCA (talk · contribs) has added your username on WP:RFC/USER, probably useful for you to know. --Van helsing 21:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarre. If QCA does in fact fill out the form correctly (that is, lists himself and at least one other editor as having a problem with you), please let me know; I'd like to add some comments there about puppets, whether sock or meat. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding edits made to Aaron Russell[edit]

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Edits to Anti-Christ and Antichrist[edit]

I noticed you made basically the same change to both of these pages. I wonder if you care to chime in on the dicussion about merging the articles? --Mattarata 06:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations[edit]

Hello RB972. You may not know me, but I would like to congratulate you and present you with a medal. You are now a journeyman editor. Harrison-HB4026 04:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This editor is a **Journeyman Editor**, and is entitled to display this **Service Badge**

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all yours[edit]

User:RB972 /List of convicted or indicted religious leaders. Very please we've found an acceptable way forward. Thank you for being so constructive here.--Doc^g 02:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice new article. If you could expand the paragraph/prose portion of the article somehow to 1,500 characters, it would be a good article for WP:DYK. Cirt (talk) 06:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]
- Well, you could always try submitting it to T:TDYK as it is, and see what happens. Cirt (talk) 15:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Trevor Marshall[edit]

Hi RB972,

Thank you for your interest in the TM page.

One of the frustrating matters with this page is that a lot of work has been done in the spirit of a NPOV yet that tag still remains. Now that you've made a round of changes, is there anything you can do to make that tag go away?

You may notice that the Lassessen page and London pages were deleted from mention at the conclusion of the article, but not by me. Those pages are completely unsourced, unreliable, etc. The Lassessen page for example was written and maintained by a man who was found guilty of libel in a California court of law against the very subject of a biography upon which he intends to comment. That and the absence of any kind of sources should make anyone think twice about linking to his site.

That said, I'm not opposed to any of your other changes.

Palbert (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on Jung Myung Seok[edit]

My edits on this article were limited to one, on the talk page, a little over a year ago, removing a posting that I thought violated WP:AGF and did not contribute in any way to moving the dialog further. I also posted a comment on the user talk page of Uptional, suggesting that he/she use the talk page properly.

I'm not familiar with the subject of the article, and - unfortunately - I have other commitments which preclude me from spending the time needed to come up to speed on the matter, and to participate in this discussion. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take another look. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did a very belated posting. My quick look at the page seems to indicate that things are reasonably under control; if not, please drop me another note. Or consider posting a note at WP:EA, particularly for very specific questions.

Regarding this posting by Uptional to the user talk page of Esprit15d, given that Esprit15d is an administrator, I personally wouldn't have worried much. You were right to add your comment, though I think it would have been better addressed to Esprit15d - it is, after all, his/her user talk page - rather than to Uptional (as you might do on an article talk page), simply explaining your position (which you did - blog bad, blog with copy of newspaper article, okay), and then saying "I'd also appreciate any comments you might make here", and not saying anything negative about Uptional. (As a rule of thumb - do not complain about another editor's behavior or motivation unless you want that editor warned or blocked; if there is a content dispute, as was the case here, talk about that. Editor's much prefer to make comments on content issues if they can; you can make it easier for them to jump in IF you don't introduce behavior issues.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

my Pancake Parlour revert[edit]

You're right - I didn't take the time to Google that one since it seemed a little bit out there. I guess even Scientologists love pancakes. Teleomatic (talk) 04:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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My RfA[edit]

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (166/43/7). I appreciate your comments and in my actions as an administrator I will endeavor to maintain the trust you have placed in me. I am honored by your trust and your support. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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AN/I discussion regarding Providence (religious movement)[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive833#Large amount of properly sourced content is being continually deleted from Providence Religious Movement Article. Sam Sailor ^Sing 11:13, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]