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AE case closure

Dear Rosguill, many thanks for your input in this AE case. The case has been there for 3 weeks now, with two admins, including yourself, willing to impose topic ban. Would you be happy to close the case per that consensus? There is a risk it may get archived, without justice served. Best wishes, --Armatura (talk) 20:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Armatura, I actually already rescued it from being archived early once yesterday; I left a note in the result section saying that I'd prefer to have someone else close it but am willing to act on it if this is still open after one more week. signed, Rosguill talk 22:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you very much for clarifying and for the de-archival, Rosguill: I noticed the case disappeared and then reappeared, and now only seen your message in the result section. No harm in waiting for another week, agreed, will wait. --Armatura (talk) 23:31, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

  1. Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
  2. Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period

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Adoption request

Hello Rosguill, would you like to adopt me? I started editing in late January. Since joining I have done recent changes patrolling, reverting vandalism. I have nominated one page at MfD successfully, and have made my first AfD nomination today. Other things I've done: made cca 25 speedy deletion nominations; two successful PROD nominations; requested revision deletion, a page protection, and have made filings at the usernames noticeboard; made two successful reports at the edit warring noticeboard, alerted administrators of a legal threat at ANI; helped the GAN of QAnon move along, for which I got a barnstar. Through recent changes, I've become a little more involved with specific pages, mostly doing copyediting, to the best of my ability. I have been expanding Template:Video game industry, and I created one stub (Max Planck Institute for Multidisciplinary Sciences).

So that's me thus far, in a nutshell. When looking at the Task Center I realize that I haven't even scratched the surface. However, I'm still mostly interested in recent changes patrolling, and want to stay focused on this for a decent period of time. Maybe I will only be doing some type of maintenance work on Wikipedia. I enjoy editing a lot. I've learned about New pages patrol in the meantime, and I see it as sort of a next step from that; it seems like a fairly advanced activity. What I'm interested in from being your adoptee is getting help to structure my activities on Wikipedia, so that I can gain relevant experience and knowledge in order to eventually become a new pages patroller.

You are the second editor I've asked to adopt me (previous request). I really hope that you will take me on. Sincerely, twsabin 22:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC) twsabin 17:01, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Twsabin, thanks for your contributions so far. Normally I'd be happy to mentor an editor with a track record like yours, but I'm currently a bit too overwhelmed with off-wikipedia tasks to commit to taking you on. If you're still looking for a mentor in a month or two, things may be a bit easier for me. signed, Rosguill talk 18:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Sounds great! twsabin 20:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for adoption

Hi. I would like to be adopted by an adopter. would you be willing to do so? I appreciate any help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 07:28, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Sm8900, I'm afraid I'm a bit overwhelmed by off-wiki tasks right now and can't commit to taking on any students right now. signed, Rosguill talk 14:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Image uploaded by user you just indeffed

Hey, the user you just indeffed (User:Carfian) was trying to edit an abusive image they had uploaded into the Emergencies Act article. The link to the image is [1]. I don't see how to request a deletion for it, perhaps you could assist? Or is that something that needs to be done at Commons? I've never had to report an abusive image before so I don't quite know the procedure. Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Sideswipe9th, this is a Commons problem now, and as such is of my wheelhouse as well, I've only ever nominated Commons images for deletion when there's been copyright violation, which is a pretty straightforward process. To be honest, I'm not even sure this image violates any Commons rules, even though it obviously doesn't belong on enWiki. signed, Rosguill talk 01:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
No worries. I'll try to figure out where to report that on Commons. Thanks. Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps course completion!

Hi Rosguill. The year of 2021 has been very drastic & troublesome. There was a lot of academic pressure on us during this year. It has been more than a year since I left my NPP classes at a "mid-way", provided my involvement on some admin-stuff on Urdu Wikipedia, and some administrative responsibilities at a user-group of which I was formerly a lead member. Now that I've myself started an approved user-group, DCW UG; I feel I should complete my NPP classes and become a graduate. That said, I'm graduating from my university in the coming August. What about NPP? Regards, ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 17:39, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

AafiOnMobile, I'd be happy to help you complete the course, but I seem to have lost track of the link where you had been working. Do you happen to still have it? signed, Rosguill talk 21:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
You should be able to find it at the top of the list of your subpages. Regards, ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 23:53, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
AafiOnMobile, so, looking at your school page, I actually think you've covered everything you need: the only modules left are on AfD and maintenance tags, which I think you're already pretty familiar with. Is there anything in particular you were hoping to practice? signed, Rosguill talk 00:23, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Indeed, I've learnt a plethora of things during the last year. What I'm looking for is to take the final set of questions and be formally called an "alumnus" or a "graduate" of the NPP school. This set of questions could help me know where I lack and thus likely adding more to my knowledge and skills. Regards, ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 02:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
AafiOnMobile, so while there is a final exam in the module, it's really just there as a way to formally fail students that aren't learning. I was going to suggest a practical test, but since you've been a new page reviewer and reviewed a dozen or so articles, I just went through them. I don't see any problems so far, and that's good enough to consider you a graduate in my book. signed, Rosguill talk 02:59, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK

Hi. Can I make a few minor fixes to Lazar Bicherakhov to make it qualify for DYK? It is a non-controversial article, and has only tangential relevance to Azerbaijan due to brief involvement of the person in the battle of Baku in 1918. Otherwise, it is more Russia than Azerbaijan related article. Grandmaster 15:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Grandmaster, Your DYK nomination for this article is open and there are several suggestions over there. If you address these issues, I'm sure this article will makes it way to DYK. The first issue is adequate sourcing, and the second is hook length. Have a look around and see if all the offline sources are independent & reliable, and support what is being claimed. Reviewers often assume good faith on offline sources but that needs to be adequate. I hope this helps! ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Grandmaster, the topic ban covers the paragraph about involvement in 1918 military campaigns, but if there's changes you want to make to other aspects of the article that would be fine. signed, Rosguill talk 17:24, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. That part is sufficiently sourced, I believe. I will fix other parts that require references, and confirm the hook. Grandmaster 17:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi again. Could you please clarify the issue raised here: [2] Thanks very much. Grandmaster 18:33, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions

Hi, this is a general question, I tried to find out what an AA2 topic ban meant and found Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 impenetrable, but eventually concluded the key section was Amendments by motion. Is there a straightforward way to find the topic covered by discretionary sanctions? TSventon (talk) 20:07, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

TSventon, the topics covered are under the subsection "Standard discretionary sanctions", Standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all pages related to Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related ethnic conflicts, broadly interpreted. signed, Rosguill talk 20:42, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

Hey - I think I was a bit short with you at SPI earlier on - I'm sorry for that, I have enormous regard for your work here. It has been a long day; sorry, I was being a bit of a dick in criticising you. Girth Summit (blether) 23:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Girth Summit, no worries! Thanks for handling the SPI case. signed, Rosguill talk 23:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Religion in Egypt

That DRN case didn't last long, because the sockpuppet who filed it didn't last long. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:28, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, what confuses me is why they're willing to rush to DRN, but not make an argument on the talk page. They've been at this for months signed, Rosguill talk 09:00, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Maybe they are trying to maximize disruption. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Robert McClenon, I feel like there are plenty of more interesting and effective ways to disrupt Wikipedia, the only thing they're maximizing is looking like a fool. signed, Rosguill talk 14:38, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

NPPSCHOOL

Dear Rosguill, I'm contacting you as I've been recommended to go through a training at WP:NPPSCHOOL by TheAafi and Celestina007. Recently, I've been blocked for 24 hours by Bbb23 for "disruptive editing" at NPX Capital (with my NPP rights) and also there had been an ANI discussion on my draftification behaviour. I would like you to provide me a training and a fair assessment on NPP. If you want me to surrender the NPP rights to undergo the training, then I would be very happy to oblige. -Hatchens (talk) 11:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry Hatchens, I'm currently a bit overwhelmed by off-wiki stuff and can't commit to teaching you an NPP course at this time. Earliest things may clear up would be about a month, and that's just speculation. signed, Rosguill talk 14:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Rosguill for a quick revert. I can wait. Whenever you get free, please do consider about me as your mentee. -Hatchens (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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For NPP rights

Hello Rosguill, I just want you to know that i had wrote a request for NPR rights here on 27 feb, please check.. If there is any problem in giving me the rights, then I would like to withdraw my request..... Thanks. — B203GTB (talk) • 09:09, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Redirect patrolling

When a redirect is created as the result of a MOVE, the redirect itself needs to be patrolled (unless the MOVE was done by someone with AP). These redirects are de-facto valid, so can't their patrolling be automated? Unless there is an expectation that NPP reviewer should be checking if the MOVE itself was valid. I've never seen any discussion of that, and the checklist doesn't address it. I believe we generally rely on pagewatchers and other anti-vandalism mechanisms to catch bad page moves. I would say that these redirects are, in a practical sense, outside the scope of NPP and we should get the software to mark these patrolled when they are created, or have the bot do it. What do you think? MB 04:16, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

MB, I'm not sure if there's a reliable way to pick up that a redirect is a move leftover, as a bad-faith editor could just add the {{R from move}} in the edit in which they create the redirect. DannyS712 may have more accurate insight. That having been said, I do occasionally come across redirects leftover from moves that need further work: sometimes there's a better new target, sometimes it's obvious housekeeping that meets G6 or G7, and sometimes it's something that should be hashed out at RfD. But the vast majority are typically fine. signed, Rosguill talk 04:28, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Might be possible to check based on log entries - if there is only 1 edit to the redirect, and it matches a log entry for a move, then its from a move. Let me know if I should investigate adding this to the bot DannyS712 (talk) 04:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Having the wikimedia software do it as part of Move/Redirect creation would insure it the redirect was from a legitimate page move. MB 04:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

User not following BRD

Hello Rosguill, there's issues with this user who deletes content and wont follow BRD despite numerous posts on their talk page [3]. They've requested page protection to maintain this. Can you step in here? Magherbin (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Magherbin I've restored the status quo ante with respect to the changes that you contested and will be keeping an eye on further developments. N.b. that both the protection request and the action taken by Deepfriedokra are targeted at IPs/non-autoconfirmed editors, so that is tangential to the actual edit war underway at Medri Bahri between you and ZemenfesKidus. At this point, neither of you should be changing the content at-issue until talk page discussion is resolved. signed, Rosguill talk 21:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
@Rosguill: I suppose i could increase to full protection. Or partial block these two . . . . Wasn't aware they were a problem. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Looks like I was looking at past problems. I'd be happy to fully protect. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Now @Magherbin: and @ZemenfesKidus: can discuss, seek DR, mediation, RfC, etc. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:06, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Deepfriedokra, not sure the edit warring is entrenched enough for full protection to be needed, at this point with me (and possibly you) keeping an eye on the page it should be straightforward to deal with further edit warring. signed, Rosguill talk 22:20, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
To be honest, I won't be watching. Thanks --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:21, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Ok ill attempt to discuss with the user, i've started a talk page discussion. Magherbin (talk) 22:23, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Jeanne II d'Albret

Hello. I would like you to help me because I have created the page Jeanne II d'Albret and I notice that there is a redirection from "Jeanne II d'Albret" to "Arthur III of Brittany". I think this redirection should be removed. Thank you. Bonjour. Je souhaiterais que vous m'aidiez parce que j'ai créé la page "Jeanne II d'Albret" et je m'aperçois qu'il existe une redirection de "Jeanne II d'Albret" vers "Arthur III of Brittany". Je pense qu'il faudrait supprimer cette redirection. Merci. --Parsedan (talk) 16:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Sorry. I just noticed that while I was writing to you, another contributor whitewashed my article and redirected to Arthur III of Brittany. Thanks anyway. --Parsedan (talk) 16:42, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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Roman Temkin

I don't think that the removal of the prose there is actually wrong, per WP:BLPCRIME. He doesn't seem to be a public figure and has not been convicted, as far as I can see. To be honest though, I think the article should just be deleted, as he certainly does not appear notable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:55, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish, I remember having concerns along those lines when the article was first created, and was mostly reacting to the IP's tendentious opportunism vis-a-vis "Russian propaganda". If you want to slap a PROD on it I don't have any issues with that. signed, Rosguill talk 16:14, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
I prodded it. Hopefully we can avoid the additional wait of an AfD. I don't think it was Russian propaganda, though, just a non notable guy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:17, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Review request

Hello, I noticed u reviewed one of my previously created articles, so I was hoping you could review another new one I created–Iqbal Hossain (footballer, born 1975), since no one has reviewed it even though it has been 8 days already. Thanks. FNH004 (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't do article reviews on request. The typical backlog is about 3-4 months for articles and 1 month for redirects. signed, Rosguill talk 18:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

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Internet Archive Scholar vs. JSTOR

Hello, I see on your user page that you use JSTOR and I'd like to know more about your experience. By my calculations, a good 70 % of the main JSTOR content is now available for everyone at Internet Archive Scholar, with full text search provided e.g. at https://scholar.archive.org/ . The service is still in beta, but I've used it for some source-finding and it seems quite usable to me; I wonder whether that's just my experience. If you have a chance, the next time you'd be looking for a source on Google Scholar or JSTOR or similar, to perform the same search on IA scholar instead, I'd be curious to hear how it ends up. Thanks, Nemo 19:04, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


Themis Rechtwissenschaft

Hello Rosguill, I am a brand new user. I am interested in getting the German article Themis Rechtswissenschaft translated into English. I've been trying to get the process started through Wikipedia: Requests for page importation. I got the advice to just wait for an established user to do it, or to add it to a requested articles list. It seems to me that the chances to get this solved in a timely manner are not too high. However, I am really eager to get this article translated. What can I do to proceed? Since I have little experience, I am VERY thankful for any kind of help.--GTCJ (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

GTCJ, if you're interested in starting work on it yourself, I would suggest reading our guide to writing your first article--while it's not exactly the same as translating an article, it highlights pretty much everything you'd need to watch out for when translating a new article as well. More specific translation advice can be found at Help:Translation. signed, Rosguill talk 18:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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Request for a comment at a RfD

Hello. Do you think you have an opinion to give at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 28#Consanguinity (in Canon Law)? If so, please say so, as Jay has closed the discussion but has stated: if you find that Rosguill (or anyone else too) wants to vote, I can revert the close (but not relist, but someone else may do it). Veverve (talk) 15:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Eh, I don't think I have a particularly valuable opinion to add, and would probably align with Tamzin's position of "weak keep but redirect if dab created at correctly capitalized title" signed, Rosguill talk 17:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Adoption

Rosguill, I am a new user and have been blocked from a particular talk page for bludgeoning (but I don't think I did what is said at WP:BLUDGEON). I have also been accused of tendentious editing. Please adopt me and guide me to make good edits here. Thanks!

I saw here that you are willing to adopt newcomers.-Y2edit? (talk) 16:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I have now been topic banned from articles related to Indian politics also because an admin mistakenly thought I have edited a page other than my own talk page after saying I will not do so until adopted by a Mentor, according to this thread which I feel was done because she (the admin) mistakenly thought I had edited another page after I said I would not until I get adopted.-Y2edit? (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Y2edit, sorry, I don't think I have the capacity to take you on as a student right now. signed, Rosguill talk 17:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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NPP School

Hi Rosguill, I am interested in the new page patrol school/process, you may remember declining my request recently - after a short wikibreak - I feel that it would be nice to do some new page reviewing at some point and if you have any slots open I would be interested in filling one of them seen as you are the closest time zone to me. Sincerely, Zippybonzo | talk 18:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Zippybonzo, unfortunately I'm still overloaded with off-wiki tasks and can't commit to training you at this time. IMO the time zone proximity isn't that important, so I would encourage you to talk to the other trainers. signed, Rosguill talk 19:27, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Yeah - time zones aren’t my priority either but I will probably have a chat with another trainer at some point - thanks for the help anyway. Zippybonzo | talk 20:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
  • (talk page stalker), @Zippybonzo, Indeed Rosguill is very busy off wiki, I was Infact going to write to them to check up on them when I noticed this message. If or not other teachers are busy I really can’t tell, I know Barkeep49 is busy also, I really don’t know about other licensed tutors namely Cassiopeia, & Atsme, perhaps they might be gracious enough to take you in. Onel5969 is another great licensed tutor but I’m doubtful they would be willing to do any teaching for now, I’m not quite sure but if all the aforementioned aren’t available then you might find asking questions here might help you, until such a time you can get someone to teach you assuming all the aforementioned editors are temporarily unavailable. Celestina007 (talk) 17:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Zippybonzo - I'm happy to help. Just post a note on my UTP when you're ready. Atsme 💬 📧 04:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Sorry to respond so late, but just thought I'd let folks know that while I no longer do NPP patrol, still willing to help out at the school. Onel5969 TT me 10:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Need advice on New Pages Patrol

Hello! I recently got permission to New Page Patrol and I am still learning. I have done some work on here. Could you please take a look at them and see if I have done it correctly or not? Thank you and have a nice day! SunDawntalk 07:30, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

SunDawn For the most part your reviews look good so far. I'm not sure Eric Lockett quite passes notability guidelines, how did you arrive at that decision? You also can safely accept 1st Parliament of Antigua and Barbuda, as government elections that can be verified are inherently notable. I'd also encourage you to use WP:RATER on articles you review so that they get assigned to relevant Wikiprojects. signed, Rosguill talk 19:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice. After a more careful reading I think Eric is not as notable as I thought. Should I unreview it? I will get WP:RATER. Thank you very much! SunDawntalk 08:24, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
SunDawn, if you've done a search for sources and still come up short of notability guidelines, the next step would be AfD--I typically skip PROD unless the article is very poor or otherwise extremely unlikely to be a controversial decision. Alternatively, given that the article is relatively new (<1 week) and that there's a good chance there may be coverage in Greek that you wouldn't be able to easily find, you could ad a {{notability}} tag and leave it unreviewed for someone else to pick up. That way you let editors interested in the article know that it's on thin ice without initiating the deletion process quite yet. Finally, for borderline cases where I'm very confident that there's more coverage out there that I can't find (or where the possibility of harm from the article is nil), I typically add the {{notability}} tag but mark it reviewed. As an added note, if you haven't come across it yet, WP:QG has a lot of pragmatic advice for reviewing various topics. signed, Rosguill talk 16:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice! I will get back to you if I have any more questions. Have a good day! SunDawntalk 15:28, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Help :D

I saw you talking to someone about the pages Porin Ässät and Ässät and how he should request history merges and moves instead of doing what he did. I also saw that the account got banned in the Finnish Wikipedia so it's likely that he wont even come here to look. I agree that the pages should be moved but i cant do anything about it. Can you help woth that? -Pallit-on (talk) 08:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Pallit-on Since it looks like the swap is warranted and uncontroversial, I went ahead and took care of it myself. signed, Rosguill talk 15:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, finally i can sleep at night. -Pallit-on (Say something) 16:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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QUERRIES ON A REVIEWED ARTICLE

Hello User:Rosguill, I would like to begin by thanking you for your efforts in promoting free and open access to knowledge, I wish to ask for advice about the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Kavaruganda) which was reviewed and appeared on various search engines for a few days and disappeared for a few days until now, What could have been the issue ? looking forward to hear from you. Best regards Ndahiro derrick (talk) 10:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't see any log of the page having been reviewed, so if it appeared in search engines that was an error as far as I can tell. My guesss is that you mistook the reviewing of a redirect pointing to that article, Kavaruganda Guillaume, for a review of the article itself. signed, Rosguill talk 14:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

So indeed, I am here about a review

I stopped working on Azov Special Purpose Regiment when it was redirected and I was told that Ukrainian Wikipedians can’t be trusted to be neutral. I’m still processing that, but although I personally think this unfinished translation still has some of the flaws of the original, I am curious about the review, which I can’t seem to access. I can only read the article through the history, which doesn’t seem to include the review; is there a better place to look? Elinruby (talk) 18:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I think you're misunderstanding what "review" means in context; the "review" was just me marking the redirect as approved. This decision is based purely on the redirect's suitability as a redirect, it is not an opinion on whether an articlee would be appropriate there. The AfD discussion, however, does provide a consensus justification for redirecting the article to Azov Battalion; I have not read through that discussion in depth. If you have any issues with the close, you should take it up with them. signed, Rosguill talk 18:32, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I don’t have issues with the close per se, more with the nomination, and its stated rationale. But that wasn’t the question; sorry if I wasn’t clear, So I won’t go into that; I am still processing it anyway.

I was wondering why it was getting reviewed if it wasn’t getting used. And as sub-sections of that, what the review said and why I couldn’t find it. You’ve pretty much answered that, but just to clarify: suitability as a redirect as opposed to what? Deletion? Elinruby (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

If a redirect isn't suitable with its current target, its target can be changed or it can be nominated for RfD, which may result in the redirect's deletion, the restoration of a prior article at the title, or other outcomes. I review pretty much all new redirects on English Wikipedia, this one just happened to come up today in the new pages queue. Moreover, there isn't a written review: the process of reviewing is just me or another NPP editor or admin assessing the page, taking appropriate further actions if any, and then marking the page as "reviewed". signed, Rosguill talk 21:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Elinruby (talk) 22:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

for taking the time to review the articles I started! All my best, Lewolka (talk) 17:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

"Fish friday" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Fish friday and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 25#Fish friday until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:04, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Rosguill,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 14796 articles, as of 14:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

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Deletions not deleting

Hi Rosguill. Just so you know, when you closed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 23 § Chakra(Naruto) as delete, the redirect didn't actually get deleted, I assume due to the ongoing issues with XFDcloser. A similar thing happened previously with your close of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 16 § Military journalist. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 14:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Ack, I thought those issues had been resolved. Fixed for this page at least. signed, Rosguill talk 16:24, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
And there's Frivolous as well (RfD). – Uanfala (talk) 22:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Damn, thought I'd covered all the ones from yesterday. signed, Rosguill talk 22:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I've had a sweep at the remaining leftover redirects, and for the following two discussions deletion hasn't come through: Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_April_3#High_Princess_(Stache) and Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_April_3#Areo_Magazine. – Uanfala (talk) 15:01, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Taken care of, thanks for all the work you put into this. signed, Rosguill talk 15:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Ariel Posen

Hi! Thank you for reviewing this article I wrote. Do you think it could be returned to become independent article? Thank you, Atbannett (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Atbannett, I reviewed the redirect created after the article was removed, not the article you wrote, and that review is not in itself and endorsement of the decision to blank-and-redirect the article. Looking at the old revision now, I do agree with the editor that BLAR-ed it, because as written it cited no independent references. This is a helpful summary of our article inclusion guidelines. signed, Rosguill talk 20:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey there

It’s been a minute since we last interacted and i thought it wise to check up on you. I trust all is well. 💗 Celestina007 (talk) 16:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey Celestina007, nice to hear from you. It's been a busy few months outside Wikipedia but I think I'm finally getting back on top of everything. All good on your end? signed, Rosguill talk 19:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I understand you perfectly, knowing that you are in good health has put my mind to rest. As for me, asides attending the funeral service of a loved one, all is great for me. Nice 'hearing' from you mate. Celestina007 (talk) 20:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

multiple means more than one

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/multiple consisting of, including, or involving more than one

The General Notability Guidelines are met if two reliable sources cover something in significant detail. Please revert your notability tag added at [4]. There are countless thousands of articles that only have two reliable sources covering them. Dream Focus 06:42, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

WP:THREE is a pretty common interpretation of the minimum requirement, so I disagree with your interpretation. If you can provide a third source I have no issue with the tag being removed. signed, Rosguill talk 13:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
WP:Three is an essay and on someone's user page, not even getting enough support to be its own essay article. And the guy writing it has clarified that what he meant was too many references to look through, just post the three best ones in the AFD to make your case, and that it was just his personal opinion. So not really something you should go by. Dream Focus 15:56, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
nu, you're wikilawyering at this point, it's well-established that the "multiple" clause in GNG is intentionally left underspecified and that 3 sources is a common interpretation; personally I usually interpret that as license to allow for fewer sources if the sources are of exceptionally good quality. At any rate, I'm not particularly invested in the specific article you've brought up with me, so you can go ahead and remove the tag if you please. But I don't see a need to self-revert my edit, as it accurately reflects my perspective on notability guidelines which I am quite confident is within parameters accepted by the Wikipedia community. signed, Rosguill talk 19:09, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

An user is vandalizing a Wikipedia article.

Hello, there is a problem with a Wikipedia user (User 176.64.12.188). He has been providing misinformation in the Uyghur Americans article. He exaggerates the figures for that ethnic group, since the figures he includes are much higher than those that appear in the article's sources. He has basically substituted the original quantitative data from that community, which is based on the included sources, for other data, and he has done that several times. Although I have reverted his data, he puts it back. He's basically vandalizing the article.--Isinbill (talk) 20:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Looking at the history of the page, I realized that I made a mistake: This user was not the first to enter the wrong data. He just put them back on. I have already notified, on the user's page, that these data are not correct.--Isinbill (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for RfD comment

Hello. Could you come and give your opinion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 4#Ancient Catholic Church of the Netherlands? Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 10:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

NPP training

You are the most active trainer I can find, and you live in the same time zone as me, so I decided you can be my trainee for the NPP school. I'm not that experienced with NPPing so I think I could benefit. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 02:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Interstatefive, could I get back to you on that in 2 weeks? My work schedule is shifting soon so I don't have a good sense of how much time I can dedicate to mentoring people on Wikipedia. If you can find a different tutor in the meantime I would encourage you to go ahead with them. signed, Rosguill talk 16:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Sure. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 16:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

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Double group (magnetochemistry)

You recently reviewed this article which, unhappily, has been the subject of a lengthy dispute. The version in my sandbox will replace Double group (magnetochemistry) (after 21 march). I hope this will be definitive. A re-review will be welcome. Petergans (talk) 20:21, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Petergans, my review was not of the article, but rather of the redirect which is at Double group. I have not looked at Double group (magnetochemistry), but if replaced it will be automatically re-added to the new page queue for review. signed, Rosguill talk 21:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

APPLICATION FOR MENTORSHIP

I am looking for a mentor. I see you're taking in adoptees. I wanna go through a course under your tutelage for a period of time that you determine for a counter vandalism course and/or a course on proper page creation. After which I will be given rollback and/or new page reviewer privileges. I'm reaching out to you because I wanna do this the proper way. It will be a honor to learn. Cheers Amaekuma (talk) 17:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I generally only provide NPP mentorship for editors who are already close to qualifying, not general counter-vandalism or page creation. signed, Rosguill talk 19:53, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Review vs rating

Hi, thanks for reviewing the Yana Rhinoceros Horn Site article. It was rated around six months ago, though - how come it wasn't just automatically marked 'reviewed' after that? 🤔  Tewdar  19:47, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

I marked the redirect Yana RHS reviewed, not the article that it targeted. According to Special:Logs, the article itself was reviewed on November 28, 2021. signed, Rosguill talk 19:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Just me not paying attention again, then. Sorry to have bothered you. 😁  Tewdar  21:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for name change: Bear Sanctuary Belitsa

Hello Rosguill, according to the official press release, the name "dancing bears park" has been changed to "bear sanctuary belitsa". I have adopted the changes in the text. Question: How to change the title of the page? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_Bears_Park_Belitsa and https://www.four-paws.org/our-stories/press-releases/bear-sanctuary-belitsa-20-year-anniversary-and-a-new-name Sonjap783 (talk) 09:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

User:Qäsee

Hi, I've reverted 3 cut/paste moves performed by User:Qäsee, two of which were made today, including one that you had reverted previously. Is it time for a clue-stick block? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 19:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

It looks like there were more c/p moves made in April, and I haven't gone further back than that yet. In addition, most of the talk pages involved haven't been synchronized either. This looks to be a big problem, and is one I really hadn't planned on spending much time on. Is the a matter for ANI? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and blocked them pending engagement on C&P moves signed, Rosguill talk 20:14, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it. BilCat (talk) 20:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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