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IF YOU ARE NOT THE OWNER OF SINEBOT, THEN PLEASE ERASE THIS MESSAGE NOW. IF YOU ARE THE OWNER OF SINEBOT, THEN SINEBOT SAID, "YOU MUST SIGN YOUR COMMENTS/EDITS WITH FOUR TILDES BY TYPING A SIGNATURE IN THE EDIT BOX." I DO NOT KNOW WHICH 'EDIT BOX', THEREFORE I WILL NOT AND SHALL NOT SIGN. IF I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEED TO SIGN (LIKE THE WORLD IS, WILL, AND SHALL, END), THEN PLEASE OPEN AN ARTICLE TITLED 'How to sign username' IMMEDIATELY IF YOU ARE AN ADMINISTRATOR, OR REDIRECT ME TO A LINK OR SITE THAT HAS A SIMILAR OR SUCH NAME OR SITE IF YOU ARE NOT AN ADMINISTRATOR. PLEASE HELP IMMEDIATELY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.14.81 (talk) 06:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, let me make a few things perfectly clear:
  1. I don't get paid for this; I'm a volunteer. This is a non-profit organization. Therefore I decide what's top priority when it comes to the things I create in my spare time. Millions of other people, including me, give you the same respect, too—you just don't realize it. After all, we don't come to your happy place and tell you how to spend your time, so please extend the same courtesy when it comes to me.
  2. When visiting the happy places of others, you have two choices: abide by their rules and their guidelines or don't. If you choose not to follow their rules, you'll likely be asked to leave. Granted, in certain situations, it is absolutely necessary to ignore those rules and guidelines, but for the rest of the time, including this particular situation, they should be followed, mainly because the people that live in the house say they should be followed. For example, if you go to a friend's house and one of their house rules requires that you "leave your shoes on the table," then you have two choices: leave your shoes on the table or don't enter the house. If you can't figure out what the "table" is or what "shoes" are, then either you will choose to learn new vocabulary words or you will find yourself outside of the house by chain of events.
  3. On the internet, typing in ALL CAPS is the same thing as shouting in real life. What you just did is akin to entering a complete stranger's apartment and shouting—in their face and at the top of your lungs—that you have an ultimatum: either they tell you what "tables" and "shoes" are by creating a plaque on the wall detailing the definition or you'll force your way into their house anyway—rules be damned.
  4. Everything you want to know about signing is already in the signatures guideline (the "plaque" you demanded), as you were informed by the bot's message.
  5. Judging by your general approach, to avoid being asked to leave in the future, please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, particularly the civility guideline. Also, when posting messages on talk pages, you should get in the habit of posting them at the bottom of the page—regardless of how important you think it is—and you should avoid editing the comments of others. It's a "house guideline" of ours.
Hope that helps.
--slakr\ talk / 09:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

KLAS Enterprises, LLC

Excuse me, Slakr, but you are wrong. I created a stub for this company that is referred to elsewhere in the Wikipedia (did you bother to check the links?) with the intent to get back to it later and flesh it out, and you speedy-deleted it. Your remark that it was "blatant advertising" is way off. This is an important company doing extremely valuable research. I have no affiliation or personal stake in this company, just happen to know about their work. I have been a contributor to the Wikipedia for some six and a half years, have made thousands of contributions and have created many articles. I urge you to undelete the article and give me a chance to get back to it and add more information. Pasquale (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

If I may quote from Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion: "Administrators should take care not to speedy delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases. If a page has survived a prior deletion discussion, it should not be speedy deleted except for newly discovered copyright violations. Contributors sometimes create pages over several edits, so administrators should avoid deleting a page that appears incomplete too soon after its creation." Pasquale (talk) 18:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to cause any offense by criticism—that's the last thing I'd ever want to do to someone—but frankly put, it was unquestionably written like an ad, and it unquestionably fell under G11 due to the lack of any viable edit history to which to recover it. Numerous people agreed, and there was even a concern of copyright infringement from this page, placing it under G12 as well. If I undelete it, it would still be subject to being speedily deleted per G11 or G12, because it was so irrecoverably written like an ad and was a complete, blatant copyright violation derived from marketing materials, which is probably the reason it was so irrecoverably written like an ad. Feel free to request deletion review if you still feel my and Nakon (talk · contribs)'s actions were incorrect. --slakr\ talk / 20:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Dispute with User:Charles regarding Battle of Corunna page

Dear sklar,

last week, you were approached by User:Kansas_Bear regarding his belief that I was engaging him in edit warring regarding my revisions to the Battle of Corunna page. In reply, you pointed out to him that I had not been warned earlier of what edit-warring was (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Schpinbo). As a newer editor to Wikipedia acting in good faith, I was not conversant with this rule; I hope you will agree that since that warning, I have refrained from edit-warring. If I have not, please let me know how I may still be continuing to err, and I will happily alter my behavior further.

The grounds upon which User:Kansas_Bear, in collaboration with User:Charles, have sought to undo my edits have been varied. For User:Kansas_Bear, the issue was the reliability of courses. He demonstrated that references used on Wikipedia should be published by reliable print sources, rather than web-based. I acceded to his points and have now provided that additional citation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_Corunna#British_Victory). User:Charles seems to believe that, because he disagrees with my POV regarding the history of the battle in question, he has the right to undo my edits. I have sought to address their complaints on both fronts. They have sought to undo my revisions, accusing me of disruptive editing, when it is I who have worked to address their concerns.

User:Charles has today seen fit to yet again revise one of my edits (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Corunna&action=history). When I removed a "reliability tag" that had been installed by User:Kansas_Bear, because his question about the reliability of sources had been addressed, User:Charles undid this revision, claiming "like hell it has." Sklar, may I ask you for your opinion on this matter? First, I find it puzzling that User:Charles, whose concern was not with reliability but with a POV issue, is now acting to support User:Kansas_Bear's concerns. User:Charles has yet to address the substance of my latest rejoinder to him regarding whether the battle in question can be regarded as a strategic victory for the French. Providing for the fact that History is a matter of interpretation and that interpretations differ among historians, I believe I have introduced compelling evidence that shows scholarly judgment backing my POV. I can find no reason for his posture on this score other than he will not allow for a POV other than his own. His latest edit of the Battle of Corunna page shows, I beleive, that he has no interest in seeking consensus or cooperation in the editing process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSENSUS). User:Charles continues to act, in my view, like a "vested contributor", supposing it is his prerogative to simply reverse my edits without engaging in discussion with me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_vested_contributors). His latest "warning" on my talk page is, in my view, an attempt to silence me because he does not like my POV.

May I ask you to weigh in on this issue?

yours truly, Schpinbo (talk) 14:51, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

a quick update. User:Charles is now accusing me of "bullying" him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Charlesdrakew#Not_again.2C_Charles_..._really.3F). I find it dismaying and disheartening that rather than engage me regarding the intellectual merits of the issue and seek to resolve it, he resorts to accusations. Yours, Schpinbo (talk) 14:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

im a newb

i have 2 images i must upload but cant

show me step by step how? Please? If you can't I understand. Deathsculler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC).

ProcseeBot stopped in december

Hi, ProcseeBot hasn't blocked anything since mid-december ([1]), is it broken or shutdown? --Harriv (talk) 16:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh wow, I'm retarded. Apparently when I was moving things over to a new box I forgot to re-enable the scanner. I'll be back to normal now. :P Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 05:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Cheers, thanks :) --Harriv (talk) 10:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Why?

Why have you Unprotected my talk page? It was protected indef for very good reasons.DocOfSoc (talk) 12:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I've re-protected it, as I'm familiar with the reasons for which it was protected in the first place. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Ermm... sorry, I guess I'll leave it protected? Did I miss where someone's still attacking you? Did they return after the page was unprotected? Thing is, we almost never indefinitely protect user talk pages, which is why I unprotected it—I thought it'd be obviously uncontroversial. Furthermore, since you've been involving yourself in edit wars (which brought me to your talk page in the first place to investigate), it made sense that allowing other users to contact you regarding your edits would help foster dispute resolution. --slakr\ talk / 00:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Slakr, I have been the recipient of a very, very long ongoing attack by former editor SkagitRiverQueen and her innumerable sockpuppets (last count, I believe, was 60ish). Every time my account is unprotected, she continues her attacks. I get emails from her to remind me she is watching me. The woman has Aspergers, (she outed herself at ANI), and is obsessed with me, hence the indef. Additionally, I do not intentionally engage in edit wars. Yes, I goofed the other nite when I should have been in bed (duh) and received the warning I deserved. That is not my normal behavior and I would appreciate it if you not infer that it is. I must have a target painted on my you Know what :-D I have read your page and you have a great sense of humor, my kind of person! (I have children older than you, and their friends say I am very cool! LOL) I hope we can go forward amicably with "Wikilove" . ;-) I would rather have you with me than "agin" me! With all sincerity, DocOfSoc (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for SineBot

Several weeks ago (approximately), my User name turned red. I don't know what I did but obviously it was something wrong. Today I received a very respectful two-tilde message from SineBot reminding me to sign messages with four tildes. I have been doing that but they were not being recognized. I continued reading at your User Page and you mentioned a box that should be left unchecked. I looked at My preferences and it was checked. I unchecked it and now my User name is blue. Thank you and thank SineBot. Respectfully Tiyang (talk) 23:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jared Lee Loughner

Please re-list this AfD. As the AfD was only open for less than half a day and there were several "keep" votes citing WP:BLP1E as their reason, this was not a candidate for Speedy redirect per WP:BLP1E. --Oakshade (talk) 02:33, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe that there were enough decenters to deletion to keep the AFD open for more than just a few hours. I thought AFD was a week?--Jojhutton (talk) 02:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The biographies of living persons policy is there to protect otherwise private individuals from being harmed by Wikipedia. "Suspects" are generally not notable, and it's a direct danger to the suspect's reputation to attach a crime to the suspect until he is found guilty of the crime, which is part of the basis for one-event notability in the first place. --slakr\ talk / 02:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
That is your opinion and if you feel that way, then you should say so on the page, rather than close an AFD after less than three hours. There were plenty of keep comments on that page and there were several in the last half hour alone. Given its full time, there would most likely have been even more, but I guess we'll never know now will we.--Jojhutton (talk) 02:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
It was kept and redirected. I closed the AFD because it will be redirected. You're free to reverse it or re-open it if you truly believe it should be run its full course and that it wasn't obvious that consensus was that it would be redirected—that's the reason it was speedily closed, and it's not binding. --slakr\ talk / 02:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Jared Lee Loughner

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jared Lee Loughner. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

You don't need to DRV it; if it's not obvious that it should have been speedily closed and that consensus was not obvious that it'd be redirected, reverse it. --slakr\ talk / 02:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Page

In the process of adding the copyright tags to an image on Sprousearts, the page was deleted (reason G11). Is there any way of restoring the site and removing all images? This was never meant to be an site to advertise, merely an informational site.

Thank you, Powerfollower (talk) 03:36, 11 January 2011 (UTC)Powerfollower

WP:BLP

I have edited your comments at Talk:Jared Lee Loughner to comply with out policy on biographies of living people. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:21, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Sinebot

Hey bro, I just want to suggest that maybe sinebot could be a bit friendlier - instead of "you must sign your posts by typing four tildes", you could write "you should...". The "you may also click" sounds a bit presumptuous, I think the newbies would find "you could also click" more welcoming. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Good suggestion, however, the wording is not of my doing. The bot basically copies whatever the text of {{tilde}} is; so, if you believe that the text of {{tilde}} should be changed, consider requesting on the template's talk page and/or making a {{editprotected}} request. Cheers :) --slakr\ talk / 23:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

SineBot sub-optimial

Adding {{bots|deny=SineBot}} to a users talk page stops the bot signing on the page but does NOT stop the bot from issuing warnings, this might be considered suboptimal. Can you let users opt-out of the warnings as well. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

It's done it again. Your attention is required. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
No, the disparity is intentional. If a user does not want to receive warnings, then he has two options: either he can use any one of the opt-out methods listed on the bot's user page and the bot won't sign his comments (and thus the user won't receive {{tilde}} warnings), or, alternatively, he can sign his posts since it's part of the signatures guideline. The bot gives {{tilde}} warnings intentionally so as to discourage people from simply never signing and letting the bot do all the work for them. The bot will, however, respect {{bots}} tags with regards to not signing comments on a given page where it would have otherwise signed, so by adding the tag to that user's talk page, the bot will avoid ever signing other users' comments on that particular page. --slakr\ talk / 23:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
No, this is not the case. The bot adds {{tilde}} even when on the specific page it is denied. I added a diff to show this, please check it and please correct the bot so it operates as documented or the documentation is updated to say that it does not work with bots deny. Sadly the situation has already deteriorated and the user in question will no longer use the bot. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I think what Slakr is trying to say is that: it is not an optimal situation for a user to simply not bother signing, use {{YesAutosign}} and let SineBot follow them. Forgetting to sign should be the exception, not the rule. So they still get the little pokes, in hopes that they will start to use the tildes themselves. (Document'd) –xenotalk 18:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining and fixing the document. The behaviour of the bot still seems odd. We have don't template the regulars, and even though it's an essay ignoring it is bordering distribution. If we won't let humans template the regulars then I can't see the case for letting a bot do it especially if the user in question has the talk page explicitly bot denied. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 04:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Actually the bot doesn't template the regulars; it ignores anyone with edit counts over 800 iirc. In fact, it doesn't even sign their posts unless they opt-in via {{YesAutosign}}, but if they go on a not-signing spree (3 in 72 hours iirc), it will still give them an intentionally-annoying warning. --slakr\ talk / 21:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Your claim doesn't match the evidence. I already provided diffs for an editor that Sinebot templated, who joined in Apr 2007 and has over 5,500 edits. That is templating the regulars. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
It will template them if they opt-in with {{YesAutosign}} and go on a "not-signing spree". –xenotalk 17:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Template talk:Pp-meta

Question for you at Template talk:Pp-meta. --Bsherr (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Replied there to you. Thanks. --Bsherr (talk) 16:56, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Amazon Mining was deleted...i suggest you rethink that one!

Hi I understand you are kinda like the Wikipedia vigilante police, that's cool. I noticed the page for Amazon Mining was deleted. The company has a lot of environmental and agricultural significance, since they are working on developing a revolutionary fertilizer in Brazil that is better for the environment and will cost way less than the alternatives which currently have to be imported from Canada and Russia. Brazil has more available farmland than any other country, grows a wide variety of crops. It is world's leading produces of corn (from which enthanol oil is produced), soy (a major meat substitute and food additive) in processed food, as well as sugar cane and a myriad of others. Many observers, believe that Brazil will soon overtake all other nations as the world's largest food exporter, however the cost of fertilizer stands in the way. unless of course there's an alternative. Currently, Amazon Mining is the company developing it! 

Unfortunately, being new to wikipedia, I don't completely understand how and what to cite in an article.  However, the organization is very newsworthy, to the point that the stock jumped up from 93 cents to over $8  in one year. So???!? if it was deleted because the significance wasn't explained, my apologies for not explaining...however, it definitely belongs on Wiki. Since the invention of Thermopotash will eventually be responsible for feeding the world.  My two cents.

 Nurse0926 (talk) 21:58, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Please see our notability guidelines for inclusion of corporations. Your article didn't indicate how it met those guidelines, so it was thus speedily deleted. Please see Your First Article and be sure to read our conflicts of interest guideline as well. --slakr\ talk / 00:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi: Could you please visit my page? Thanks! Just go to the carole king article, click on discussion and then go all the way down and click on the Talk button for 86.162.237.186. Thanks! (Talk)

Thank you for the advice

Dear Slakr, I think you recently posted a brief tip on my talk page, through SineBot, about how to sign off? Thank you, very helpful.

Mike Ormsby (talk) 09:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Need help

I uploaded an article "Winnifred Oldfred Actie" but it was deleted. It's a biography of a politician in St. Lucian. I am the author and he gave me permission to send it for publication. I sent it to the newspaper, The voice newspaper in St. Lucia. The Article was published. I am trying to upload the article on your site but I am having trouble. Can you help? I am new at this. 

                                              Joeline Abraham
                                               Abraham090188@live.com
(talk page stalker) First of all, you must create an account. Then you can use the Article wizard. However, it was deleted per CSD G11 (blatant advertising), so please don't re-create it if it does not adhere to WP:NPOV. --T H F S W (T · C · E) 05:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

unexpanded subst

Hi Slakr,

In a recent edit, SineBot used the {{UnsignedIP}} template, but this was not substed by Wikipedia.

--Kevinkor2 (talk) 12:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikicode is/was likely broken elsewhere in the page. --slakr\ talk / 01:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
...and it was in this edit that it was broken (no closing nowiki tag). --slakr\ talk / 01:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah! That explains it! Thank you very much! (and I notice that when the editor supplied the closing nowiki tag, the subst cleared itself us!) I will look for this in the future. :) --Kevinkor2 (talk) 20:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Blocking

Dear Kurt,

could you please check the following block:

2011-01-12T19:10:18 ProcseeBot заблокировал 217.17.179.148 на период 2 months (запрещена регистрация учётных записей) ‎ ({{blocked proxy}} <!-- 89.28.255.2:3128 -->)

I ask for it due to request from User_talk:Lazyhawk - he is a well-known Russian wikipedian in very good standing. He didn't use proxy. We also have request from another user who looks legitimate one, and who is surprised by fact that his address was blocked as a proxy: in Russian. So there might be some problem.

Thanks! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 14:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm getting timeouts for now, so I've unblocked. Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 01:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! :-) Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 07:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Re-grant rollback

Please go to my section of Rollback at WP:RFP to review and comment on my request, since you revoked it in December. Thanks much --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 17:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

You, of course, were the one who revoked my rollback privilege two months ago. You know what I was fighting against. I may not have told you this before, but I was up quite late that night, and that contributed to my Wiki-stress. Since then, I have used Twinkle to combat vandals, warning them without fail. Save for blatant vandalism, I only click the vandalism button when there has been un-explained mass removal of cited/sourced content, and that has only happened a few times. Since I use pop-ups, rollback will allow me to revert the damage without fail; pop-ups often fail to automatically load the next page. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 22:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Possible open proxy

I have put an anonblock on 216.236.253.50 for vandalism. However, I see that this IP was previously blocked by ProcseeBot as a proxy. If it is still in use as an open proxy then it should be more than just anonblocked, but I am very unsure how to determine whether an IP is an open proxy or not. Can you help? JamesBWatson (talk) 15:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

sinebot is acting weird

It added a second signature to previously signed material. [2] [3]. (This is signed using four tildes) 65.94.45.238 13:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.45.238 (talk)

Signing with 4 tildes as an IP user will always result in a link back to the IP's talk page unless MediaWiki:Signature-anon has been changed to alter that behavior. Since the last change to MediaWiki:Signature-anon was in 2009, it is highly unlikely that you signed with four tildes, and if you did, rewriting of that submission either occurred in your browser via an unsupported-by-us plugin or was altered in route to our servers (perhaps by a weird ISP). Unfortunately, there's nothing else I/we can do in either case. --slakr\ talk / 09:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, my mouse accidentally fell and clicked on the floor and when I tried to press "Enter" on my keyboard, it saved without the tildes.

Your robot warned me for something I didn't mean to do.

I was editing: Wikipedia:Help desk when this happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moseyman (talk • contribs) 03:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Guidance on opting out

Your User:Sinebot page is clear about how you can opt out of having your postings signed by Sinebot even if you don't use ~~~~, but says nothing about when -- i.e. it does not mention the fact that opting out may be inappropriate in some cases.

The standard wording you get when editing a talk page says something like "Please respect the talk page guidelines. Sign your posts...". Taking this together with the ability to opt out as shown on the User:Sinebot page, I had been assuming that this sort of signature was merely a guideline. This weekend that assumption got me into a dispute that nearly got me blocked. This ended when WP:SIGN#Internal links was called to my attention and I realized I was wrong about it only being a guideline.

I think the section about opting out needs some added wording, with links to the appropriate pages, to help prevent others from making the same mistake I did.

(If you want to reply, please reply here on your own page, not on my current IP-address's talk page.) --208.76.104.133 (talk) 04:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Arabic Wikipedia questions

Hi, friend I was wondering if you could help us with your SineBot? We would like to add this to automate users signatures in Arabic Wikipedia questions. Note that the page name is a function of month and year (today for example you would see Wikipedia:Questions/Archive/02/2011, where ويكيبيديا = Wikipedia, أسئلة=Questions, أرشيف=Arcive).--Email4mobile (talk) 02:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Indiana-Purdue Rivalry

Your bot signed on a comment on my talk page in regards to alleged vandalism by me on the page noted in the subject. The page is the subject of edit warring and a user SCDUE persists in editing the page so that it contains factual inaccuracies and removes factual statements so that one college is better portrayed than the other. I have not vandalized that page, merely tried to keep it factually accurate and would like you to please examine both that page and the "threatening" comment posted on my talk page. Thanks for your help. --Glawton 03:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

SineBot offline?

SineBot hasn't edited since the 17th - is it pining for the fjords? Gonzonoir (talk) 11:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. --slakr\ talk / 13:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Cheers! Gonzonoir (talk) 16:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Protection icons

Just wanted you to know that I liked your protection icons and have put them in place at English Wikibooks. This required porting them to Commons, but now that they are there, other projects and language Wikipedias can make use of them. So don't feel as though you wasted your time on them. They're getting plenty of use if you examine usage of the files at Commons. Adrignola (talk) 00:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words; that made my night. =) The real goal was to just get something out there as a quick fix to the colorblind issue, and then hopefully someone else would come along and make something even better. Apparently on enwiki, though, consensus is that they couldn't care less about solving the problem; rather, the color of the bikeshed is ironically more important. :P --slakr\ talk / 03:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and if you're ever looking to expand Sinebot's realm, it could fill a niche at Wikibooks. But don't feel obligated. I don't know how involved it is to operate or integrate into a project. Adrignola (talk) 04:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

My rollback

You, of course, were the one who revoked my rollback privilege two months ago. You know what I was fighting against. I may not have told you this before, but I was up quite late that night, and that contributed to my Wiki-stress. Since then, I have used Twinkle to combat vandals, warning them without fail. Save for blatant vandalism, I only click the vandalism button when there has been un-explained mass removal of cited/sourced content, and that has only happened a few times. Since I use pop-ups, rollback will allow me to revert the damage without fail; pop-ups often fail to automatically load the next page. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 22:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully you will be considerate enough to even respond. Since you have done something on WP since my request was reviewed by HJ Mitchell, there is no chance that anybody but you will be able to re-review my request. Down with the TW-ese trolls and puppets. Thanks. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 14:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Any other admin is free to restore it if they believe it's warranted (hence my comment in the user rights log, "feel free to restore whenever."). As for your initial request, I declined to comment because I would have only said bad things, including that you had been involved with edit warring only a few weeks prior to it (18 January 2011 (UTC)). Given that you had rollback removed in the first place because of using it to edit war, I, personally, wasn't entirely comfortable with giving you the proverbial big red button once more. --slakr\ talk / 02:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ohconfucius

Just a courtesy note to say I reduced the block to time served because it looks like O is open to discussion & the edit war had stopped a little time before. Not saying this is the right choice per se, but commenters at AN/I seem against the block in general and you said it was no problem to overturn. Hope this is kosher --Errant (chat!) 14:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Heh... that works. It is kind of funny, though, that the people who were so outraged by the block have, in the past, been blocked for edit warring themselves. :P Anyway, cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 02:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

qASIM

I am making a page name of "Qasim Hafeez" He is a young writer and I am a fan of them. So can I continue making it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanaya233456 (talk • contribs) 05:35, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

No idea, as I'm not familiar with the person. You should check our notability guidelines for inclusion and, most importantly, our notability guidelines for biographies and our biographies of living persons policy. Also be sure to take a look at Your First Article, which will help cover the most important aspects of your new article as well as answer any frequently asked questions. Good luck, and cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 03:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

SineBot edits marked as bot

Has there been any consideration of not marking SineBot's edits as bot edits (like ClueBot's)? I ask because when somebody leaves a comment on a page I am watching, but forgets to sign, after SineBot adds the signature it disappears from my watchlist because I am hiding bot edits. –CWenger (talk) 16:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest enabling bot edits, as usually the amount of bot edits to any given page tends to be low, except in cases of highly-vandalized pages or pages that have recently been changed with an action that then activates a bot (e.g., |date= tagging on templates). In both of those cases, as well as the SineBot case, you Should Be Checking the Page Anyway™ in case any given bot made a mistake or, in the case of vandalism, the bot reverted to a version of a page that still has vandalism on it. --slakr\ talk / 03:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

SineBot for another Wikipedia?

Hello Slakr. I'm a sysop and bot operator (tr:User:Khutuck Bot) at Turkish Wikipedia, and we need a signature bot badly. Is it possible (technically and personally) to use your bot at tr.wikipedia? Will it require high amounts of re-coding, or will changing en.wiki's to tr.wiki be enough? We already have users with 24/7 running computers, so computing power is not an issue. I'd be very happy if we can have a sign bot here too. Khutuck (talk) 14:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

BLP, ethnicity, gender

Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Include "ethnicity, gender," to match all other guidelines

Wikilawyers have been trying to drive through a wording loophole in WP:BLP, saying ethnicity and gender of WP:EGRS don't apply to living persons, simply because the two words aren't in the policy. (Apparently, they think it should only apply to dead people.) I see that you have participated on this topic at the Village Pump.

They also are trying to remove the notability and relevance criteria at WT:EGRS, but that's another fight for another day, I'm simply too busy to watch two fronts at the same time.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 21:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

What is this stuff?

what is this stuff? — CpiralCpiral 07:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I deleted SineBot's 304K+ chars of unintelligible gibberish. — CpiralCpiral 08:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

What was that stuff? — CpiralCpiral 02:31, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Sinebot was just signing someone else's gibberish. --George100 (talk) 17:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Oh! Good, civil, tame sine-bot.
Well now, as you as no doubt have already considered, better than I, I must nevertheless comment that, in this special circumstance (See the link to the diff again), the editor should go where the discovered editor's name goes, and sine-bot's name could be parenthetical, not the other way around, as it shows now. In other cases, such as on the left column of the diff (linked), the bot's name goes on top and the work done is parenthetically recorded. In either case, I have a new appreciation for the parentheticals on diff pages. I'd only been looking at the editor line. Thank you. — CpiralCpiral 08:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for answer

HI I have read your instructions about putting a signature,and wanted to say thank you. I'm also trying to understand reasons for deleting my page,hope it will get better,at least to be warned to save what is written;you know,once said is difficult to be repeated in the same way. Thank you! It is said in explanation that my page is:"still too promotional".Everything we do and put here is promotional,isn't? --Slavica66 (talk) 18:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

User not templated

Hi, I'm pretty sure that SineBot used to put a template like {{subst:Uw-tilde}} on user talk pages, but this has never been done to this user, despite them never once having signed their talk page posts. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

It only remembers unsigned posts in the last 24 hours; you need to make 3 unsigned posts in 24 days otherwise you don't get the tilde warning. --slakr\ talk / 23:56, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Signbot restored oversighted.

See this edit. [4]. 174.97.238.255 (talk) 03:15, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

It's been oversighted? Overseen? Over the river and through the dell? ... w/e; it's been handled once more. :P Cheers. --slakr\ talk / 20:59, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Здарова чувак

Как дела? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Дружинник (talk • contribs) 12:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Zdarova bratva. :P Ruwiki is probably the place you're looking for, though. Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 02:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Questions

how you go a bot and how you be came adminRicBoom (talk) 04:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Please see our bot policy and our administrator policy, respectively. --slakr\ talk / 04:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Comments for your sinebot

hi, slakr, i am also a lazy slacker and thats why i never sign my posts since i discovred that your handy little bot will do it for me :D i dont care how easy it is, if someone or somebot else will do it, why should i do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto75780 (talk • contribs) 07:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

And a different comment. My preferences put my real name for my signature. Then SineBot comes along and changes it to my username. Then I revert it. Boring. --Martin Wyatt 19:01, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

The reason for that is that your signature does not contain a link to any one or more of: your user page User:MWLittleGuy; your talk page User talk:MWLittleGuy; or your contributions page Special:Contributions/MWLittleGuy. Further info at WP:SIGLINK. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:14, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

wikigit

Hi Slakr. I'm going around helping bot owners to publish the source code of their bots on wikigit, a github organization created for this purpose. Publishing your source code ensures that others can take over maintainence of tools if the original author becomes unavailable and allows others to create bots based on yours. Very little effort is required - in the simplest case all you have to do is e-mail a ZIP of the source code to an owner. Please take a look at the options and let me know what you want to do. I'd also appreciate any feedback on the project since it's new. Thanks! Dcoetzee 18:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey Slakr, I refuse to sign my posts and now amount of passive-agressive template warnings from a bot will make me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaptorHunter (talk • contribs) 19:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Mmmhmm! Stick it to the man! You'll be the one who stood up and said, "Sign my posts? NO!" and everyone will know your name—oh wait, no they won't. :P --slakr\ talk / 01:32, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Please help now fix unreasonable block

Please note that ProcseeBot has unreasonably blocked an editor, and there is a nightmare going on of demanding the user fix ProcseeBot or its messages. Would you please assist in immediately unblocking editor EraserGirl. See User talk:EraserGirl#Unblock and please comment/help there. --doncram 16:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

An AN discuassion may be heading in the direction of Procseebot

Help With Coding

Hello Slakr. My name is Zach. I'm beginning to learn Python and I was wondering if you could help me in creating a bot. In python I can create a calculator, a Fibonacci generator, a prime number generator, and a generator of a numbers factors. I figured the next step would be to make a wiki bot. I understand that Sinebot is coded in php, not Python, but I was wondering if you could help me get started on making a bot similar to this for a wiki I contribute on. [5] You might laugh when you see how small this wiki is, but I still want to make a bot in python that will sign posts. I just want to use it as a mechanism to help me learn. I've tried the pywikipediabot, but the coding changes you have to make to families is very confusing. If you have the time I would very much appreciate it if you could help me find a starting point for this project. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachoooo (talk • contribs) 04:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh also the bot I want to make will not use any templates. It will simply place the text "<Scratchsig>Insert the username of the person who didn't sign their post here.</scratchsig>" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachoooo (talk • contribs) 04:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

That code is all that is necessary to insert the proper signature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachoooo (talk • contribs) 04:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Sinebot

Hello Slakr!

I'm a ptwiki user, and I'm lately surfing on enwiki to bring some ideas for the Lusophone project. I'm very interested in SineBot, because in ptwiki, when a user does not sign a message, we have to check the signature manually.

Would you help me in the process of translating the language of the robot program?

As on enwiki, we have to make a request, however I do not know anything about the technical function of creating a robot.

Can you help me?

Hugs

Willy WeasleyAvada Kedavra! 14:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Willy Weazley (talk • contribs)

Procsee Bot error?

Hi. I saw the block log today for 194.126.21.9 and I'm a little confused. It looks like ProcseeBot meant to block 213.175.165.130, but blocked this IP instead. I've attached the relevant entry below. If you could take a look, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

  • * (del/undel) 06:37, 27 March 2011 ProcseeBot (talk | contribs | block) blocked 194.126.21.9 (talk) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 2 months ‎ ({{blocked proxy}} <!-- 213.175.165.130:3128 -->) (unblock | change block) TNXMan 11:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
When the exit point of the block differs from the entry point, the bot will put the entry point in the comment, along with the port. So, say for example you can use a proxy at 123.45.67.89, port 1234, but instead of it routing the proxy traffic on 123.45.67.89, it instead uses another ip—99.88.77.66—for outgoing traffic. Checking to see if 99.88.77.66 is an open proxy would likely result in a false negative, as incoming requests are only being listened to on 123.45.67.89:1234, so the bot would block 99.88.77.66 and put 123.45.67.89:1234 in the block reason to help other admins verify whether it's still open. --slakr\ talk / 09:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Ah, it makes sense now. Thanks! TNXMan 20:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Help! Vandal with power!

Hi! Could you please assist. It appears we have a Vandal here who is using his "power" with WP to assert himself. On the Beagle 2 page, I originally wrote on the first para, that Beagle 2 "...may have missed Mars altogether, skipped off the atmosphere or entered an orbit around the sun, or burned up during its descent. If if reached the surface, then it may have hit too hard, or simply failed to contact Earth due to a fault". This was very concise, accurate, detailed and informative.

However, some time later, the "Vandal" complained of, Ruslik0, replaced this text with less informative, and misleading text which also doesn't inform the reader of all the possibilities which could have befallen the Beagle probe. I have undone his insertion on a number of occasions and I have written on the Discussion page about this Vandalism. Please see "Vandalism" and "Comment" on the Discussion page, which explains all of my reasons in detail.

However Ruslik0 simply kept blindly replacing my original wording with his -- and always without a word of explanation.

Lately, he has also deleted part of the History where all this was happening -- and locked the entire Article-- and again without a single word of explanation!

Sadly, there are on WP many who still display the "territorial ape" which is regrettably all too present in some people, and they simly get rattled if you "violate their space, where they have left their territorial marker". This is why he cannot provide any rational justification for his actions -- but at the same time he can't stop doing it. Could you please investigate the matter. WP deserves the very best in writing and informative standards and here we are definitely going backwards.

Thankyou. (204.112.57.207 (talk) 18:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)) I am also Valhalan; I was asked some years ago to be an administrator but alas I have a very demanding job which limits my time.

I'm not well-versed in the topic, but you should cite expert speculation about what happened to it with a verifiable secondary source. If parts of the speculation aren't substantiated in the sources cited (e.g., the part about it skipping off the atmosphere and magically going into stable orbit around the sun), then it would have no place in the article. If, however, there are a decent portion of experts saying that it is a valid possibility, then it should be no problem to cite those views. I'd suggest discussing it on the article's talk page. --slakr\ talk / 09:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Ops gear

Per my comment at the AfD, can you please salt that name as well as OPSGEAR to prevent recreation? Someone else will probably attempt to put the advert back in if we don't. I will go ahead and close the AfD. CycloneGU (talk) 20:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I see you've closed it. I was waiting for the WP:SALT myself. CycloneGU (talk) 20:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Someone else salted the old article; I went ahead and got the new one. --slakr\ talk / 20:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Good deal. Hopefully, they don't try to use some other abbreviation (like OPS gear or something), but we'll catch it when they do. CycloneGU (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Slakr. You have new messages at Zakhalesh's talk page.
Message added 10:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Harvest_(software)

Hi, I'm writing in response to your deletion of Harvest (software). I created the page in October 2010 and it passed deletion review. The page was reviewed again last month and deleted. It was granted userification by the deleting administrator User:Sandstein. The following changes were made to the page: 1) Added a notable reference. Specifically, an article in the The Wall Street Journal. The link to the latter article was not on the page before deletion. 2) Added Harvest (software) to the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing, an effort to increase the quality and quantity of information about computing on Wikipedia. Before deletion, Harvest (software) was apart of Comparison of time tracking software, an informative article that is apart of the project. I request that Harvest_(software) be restored, so that I may submit the updated article for proper Peer_review. Thank you! Srinath10 (talk) 21:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Two separate afds called for it to be deleted. Furthermore, you were the one who added it to Comparison of time tracking software. I highly recommend that you please be sure to fully understand our conflicts of interest guidelines. Finally, no, I will not restore the page given the deletion history. You're free to request deletion review. --slakr\ talk / 21:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion

Here is the new article I've written for subject: Filter Foundry Could you let me know if it would be approved or if i theres more changes needed?

Thank you

Funkrockr10Funkrockr10 (talk) 16:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I removed the text. When something gets deleted, my talk page isn't the best place to put it. Consider articles for creation or your own sandbox instead. --slakr\ talk / 05:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

I appreciate SineBot signing for me I added a one line addendum and forgot to sign my mistake, I wanted to thank you Slakr for your Bots help much apprecaited. MikeBeckett (talk) 23:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

SineBot problem

SineBot did this for some reason a few days ago. Any explanation? Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 03:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I am also wondering if the bot has an exclusion complaint. I looked in its request for approval, but it did not show it there. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 03:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
This happened to me yesterday (on a related note). Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
@Crazymonkey Your signature at the time appeared to be a link to a subpage of your user page—not your user page itself. Second, the bot has multiple methods of opting out. Please see its user page for more information. @Eagles you were posting under an alternate account, but the signature linked to your main account's user page (instead of the alternate account's). It does this, in part, to help prevent people from impersonating other users—intentionally or unintentionally. --slakr\ talk / 20:55, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, okay, so how should I alter my alternate account's signature to prevent this from happening in the future? Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
You could simply place {{NoAutosign}} on its user page and keep it as is (and let the bot ignore any mis-steps in signing altogether); or, you could change the signature to forward to the socks's literal user page. As an uber-last resort, you could wait for the sock to reach the minimum edit count to be ignored by default, and thus necessitate {{YesAutosign}}—that is, if you were to want it to continue signing what it believes to be presumably-unsigned posts. --slakr\ talk / 07:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you please explain this SineBot edit

Why did SineBot make this edit when I opted out of the system over two days ago ? Mtking (talk) 00:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

You didn't follow the directions. Consider placing it on your user page instead. --slakr\ talk / 06:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

SineBot irc channels

What antivandalism irc channels does sinebot report to?Swmmr1928 talk 22:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

#cvn-wp-en on freenode. --slakr\ talk / 07:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

WebCRM company page

I just saw that you deleted one of my wiki pages. I am still gathering information about the company, so today or tomorrow, I will make it again. I would be really happy if you visit it when I make it and see if it is done properly, because making those pages takes a lot of time and I do not want to get it deleted twice.

Thanks for reading —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyuben88 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Please be sure to read our conflicts of interest guideline as well as our guidelines for the notability of corporations. Stating why the company meets those guidelines will help to prevent your page from being speedily deleted. --slakr\ talk / 07:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Riscos.info

Hi. Further to the recent deletion of Riscos.info, it would be appreciated if the article could please be moved to the Article Incubator, as per the request contesting the speedy deletion at Talk:Riscos.info. If it would be more appropriate, I can make a request at WP:UNDELETE instead. Thanks for reading. --Trevj (talk) 20:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Judging by google backlinks, does the article even has a remote chance of meeting WP:WEB? --slakr\ talk / 07:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I believe so, for the following reasons:
  • Is notable, with both third-party refs and continuing contributions from people in Europe and the States: 1, 2, 3
  • Further refs are available in printed magazines (unavailable online): these could potentially be added by other editors in the future... but this will difficult to accomplish if the article remains deleted and isn't accepted, even as a stub.
  • Not WP:RECENTISM
  • Not WP:SPAM
  • More useful and informative to readers as a standalone article, linking from RISC OS, than merely listed there under 'External links'
Please note additionally that the quotations/copyright issues have been dealt with via discussions on my talk page. There are many articles in Category:Stub-Class Websites articles of Low-importance, which is where Riscos.info probably belongs. Although riscos.info hasn't benefited from mainstream press coverage (which, for example Wesabe has), the article will arguably of more use to readers than Wesabe. I trust that this information is useful to you. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 08:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep in mind that there's a difference between articles of "low-importance" and articles that don't actually indicate any importance. Members of the low-importance group should at the very minimum give a credible assertion as to why they meet WP:WEB. Self-sourced links or press releases from the site are not independent of the subject. --slakr\ talk / 02:14, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, although I don't share your point of view that Riscos.info doesn't indicate any importance. It is a long established and frequently visited site. The above stated arguments with respect to WP:WEB appear to be unacceptable, but it should be noted that this discussion currently lacks a third opinion. I believe that notability could be clearly established and further reliable sources added by editors if the article were to be reinstated. Regarding WP:SPS, I'm sure that further sources can be added, e.g. from Archive magazine, Acorn User, Qercus, etc. My understanding of WP:ABOUTSELF is that the current references are worthy (although insufficient on their own) because there is no reasonable doubt as to their authenticity.
The visibility of the article at present is virtually nil, which precludes others from either contributing or discussing its contents. I'd be interested to learn how you envisage things proceeding from here. Thanks for your time. --Trevj (talk) 08:05, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Professional Developmental Football League

Slakr, You are an idiot! Since you removed our page, when are you removing the National Football Leagues page? We are a verifiable league that plays PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL one level under the NFL, and are selling Nothing! Get a grip you geek, if you had ever played sports you would know what interaction with something other than a keyboard is like. Your name spell's it out for you CHUMP, you are a SLAKER! Lazy Little Geek —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaerewyck (talk • contribs) 23:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Protip for the future: you typically won't get your way by having tantrums on the internet, because unlike in real life, we're able to just ignore them. You basically have two choices: read your first article and our conflicts of interest guideline to help start you along the path of understanding how to resolve the problems with your article (and possibly ways to get it to survive); or, you can continue flaming talk pages and get blocked. On a related note, I did play several sports, but I never took them too seriously; as a result, I never ended up rage-posting to a slacker/chump/geek's talk page. I can now safely say I'm fine with that life path. :P --slakr\ talk / 01:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Just want to say hello

Hey there Slakr I haven't been on the wiki or irc in forever, so I thought I'd stop by and see how you've been? I'd like to close with "I saw 'boobies' and acted too fast" -- slakr @ freenode. Cheers mate. 24.15.45.38 (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Dude I'm so gonna eat ya if you don't at least say howdy back! /me munches slakr anyway. 24.15.45.38 (talk) 22:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Hehe, howdy. :D I clearly wasn't the first man to have made that mistake ;). Whatcha been up to? It's been, like, ages. You went all zOMG-VANISH! :P --slakr\ talk / 07:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm good, can't complain to much. Lot of things happen at once in RL and vanishing tends to happen. I still visit, only as someone looking shit up. I went to view my old page for funny shit and got down to that old thing and just wanted to stop by and say hey. 24.15.45.38 (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, keep in mind that you can always come back. It's not all-or-nutin'; you can do a little here and there if you wanted. I float between activity and inactivity depending on how nutty things get IRL, for example. :P --slakr\ talk / 02:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Riscos.info

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Riscos.info. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevj (talk • contribs) 08:43, 24 May 2011

Thanks for the heads up. --slakr\ talk / 09:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Bot adding reminders to editors talk pages

Why doesn't that always happen? I find it quite useful. I am often teaching students about Wikipedia, and they often forget to sign - yet even if the bot sings their posts elsewhere, they only rarely get a talk page reminder. Why? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

See User:SineBot for information on when it drops {{tilde}}s. --slakr\ talk / 03:30, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

SineBot dated my comment that was already dated on the Marginal Cost discussion page

I recently added something to the marginal cost page along with a time and date:

"I have been thinking about this too. Added a little explanation after the first paragraph explaining why defined marginal cost is not calculated marginal cost. It's all about tangents. User:nath9091 18.11, 23 May 2011 (BST)" which was the original

SineBot modified it to:

"I have been thinking about this too. Added a little explanation after the first paragraph explaining why defined marginal cost is not calculated marginal cost. It's all about tangents. User:nath9091 18.11, 23 May 2011 (BST) —Preceding undated comment added 17:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)."

Can you explain what I did wrong? Was it not putting a colon in as in 18:11 instead of 18.11?

Cheers for any advice,

User:nath9091 21.25, 24 May 2011 (BST)

Several non-standard timestamps have exceptions, but I'm not sure that that one does. Beware, though, that if SineBot can't detect a timestamp, other bots that rely on standard timestamps (e.g., talk page archiving bots like User:MiszaBot) will likely fail to detect them, as well. --slakr\ talk / 03:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

User Solopiel

I understand you blocked this user for 36 hours, unfortunately he/she continues to disruptively edit various articles - apparently mainly those regarding the war in Iraq. As an example on the Operation Telic page (let alone the iraq war page) he continually re-edits it to imply its an on-going mission; despite the fact it came to an end in 2009. I'm not really sure what the formal procedures for dealing with this are, but since you blocked him initially would you mind keeping an eye on him? kind regards nb this is the user [[6]] Zaq12wsx (talk) 06:15, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Blocked for a week. --slakr\ talk / 06:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you :) Zaq12wsx (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello Slakr, I can't help but think that Mr.Solopiel isn't going to be deterred. [7], [8]. -all best.V7-sport (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
So far it's only two contested reverts, it would appear. On cursory inspection, the other edits the user has recently made, while reverts, don't appear to be contested quite yet, so I'll wait for now. If they start violating the three revert rule or it becomes clearly disruptive editing or drawn-out edit warring again, feel free to report it to the edit warring noticeboard, as well. Depending on how active I am, it might be faster for another admin to handle it should those situations arise. Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 09:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
The user in question has twice more made exactly the same edits to the Iraq War article which appeared to lead to their initial blocks. I've made an entry on the edit warring noticeboard. (Hohum @) 16:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

What do you have against my brother?

Hi! I'm NOT 25 years old, and it took quite a lot of effort for me to figure out how to mention my brother on the discussion page for Maquoketa, Iowa. Maybe he doesn't play pro ball, but he is a brilliant scientist, responsible for groundbreaking research in artificial intelligence. What is your problem? Sincerely, Melody Witt Delmar IA 71.33.87.96 (talk) 16:29, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. You likely have me confused with my bot, as the big, bold notices at the top of its user and user talk page suggest. --slakr\ talk / 03:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Untitled

Hey sorry but i don't know what a tilde is, in spanish a tilde is an accent, since my keyboard is in spanish i don't know where to find that symbol, and you guys delete my posts for something as ridiculous as that? so my opinion isn't valid because i don't have a freaking tilde? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.61.7 (talk) 04:31, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_sign_your_posts Wikipedia now includes a little icon thing that lets you put in the information normally contained in the four tildes without needing the proper keyboard. It Will appear as a series of four tildes "Chardansearavitriol (talk) 03:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)" immediatly below save/show preview / show changes buttons. Chardansearavitriol (talk) 03:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Toolserver 3RR Helper

Hey Slakr,

Would you be able to modify the output of the 3RR Helper on the toolserver to output the header with a speace between the == header tags and the content within it? It would help for processing data that users copy-paste via User:NekoBot.

-=- Adam Walker -=- 19:46, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback#User:HXL49

FYI. Cheers, FASTILY (TALK) 06:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Riscos.info

Hi. You may have seen that your deletion was endorsed. FYI, I've now moved the (improved) article and listed it for feedback. --Trevj (talk) 14:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

request to add a page to SineBot's high priority list

I request that WP:RfPP is added to SineBot's high priority list because sometime, a lot of things can happen there in a very short period of time. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 01:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, RFPP doesn't typically get a high influx of people forgetting to sign, but I'll keep an eye on it in case something's changed. Thanks for the heads up =) --slakr\ talk / 13:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:ANI#Personal attacks by User:HXL49

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -FASTILY (TALK) 05:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow; guess my concerns were well-founded, sadly. :\ --slakr\ talk / 13:25, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Sinebot function is great

Hello, I wanted to say a few things but firstly to say thanks for sinebot - it is great :) I quite often make a number of edits in a day - and I do forget to sign some of them. I can't envision a time when I wouldn't want to. I wondered if there was a way to add arguments for sinebot so that I don't get the 'you forgot to sign stuff' message on my talk page. Or perhaps for it to know that there is already such a message on my page - so it doesn't need to post there again? Not a big issue - just thought I'd pass the suggestion on along with my thanks for the continued good work. I'll remember to sign this having just talked about it :) EdwardLane (talk) 10:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Soon (when you have over 800 edits), SineBot will stop signing for you altogether (unless you opt-in).
On the subject of not notifying you, see a recent thread on the topic (cliffs: the bot continues to notify people "to discourage people from simply never signing and letting the bot do all the work for them").
Tangentially related @slakr: there is a dicussion about SineBot's function here. (FYI) –xenotalk 18:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Xeno said it all. The bot's basically there to do two things: 1. to make discussion pages less chaotic/confusing; and 2. to guide users into our community's discussion page conventions. The userboxes on its user page that cover the key policies and guidelines are part of that, as well. Finally, any request for the bot to transparently add a user's custom signature instead of {{unsigned}}/{{undated}}/etc are Wontfix as far as I'm concerned. Same goes for the {{tilde}} annoyance warning on established users repeatedly attempting to go the lazy route and let the bot do all of the signing for them—that, too is a Wontfix. :P --slakr\ talk / 13:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

sorrry ro take your valuable time...but

i am going to attend the pinic event on the 25th of june in golden gate park. i hope to meet other wiki editors there that may be able to help me conform to the correct procedures in which to contribute my expretise in subjects in which i am knowledgebale without offending others, but at the same time not backing down from knowledge that is imperative to the situation at hand. i am truly sorry for the technological errors i have made in my attempt to enlighten people. if i did not feel the urgency inspired by the Divine believe me i would not proceed. i am much to cautious of a person for this and do not wish to be ridiculed as others such as me have been in the past , only to be revered after we have been tortoured and killed. i submit this with the utmost respect and hope and pray for your understanding. love and peacejamiejojesus 17:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)jamiejojesusjamiejojesus 17:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiejojesus (talk • contribs)

Can I delete the insult?

Hello!

Your boot recently informed an IP-number that he/she should sign the insult they recently placed on my discussion-page. I was insulted by this IP because I have reverted unreferenced changes the IP made which gave a great impression of being POW. I have posted a report on the IP:s behaviour on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Was this the right place to put my report?

This was the attack made by the IP on my user-page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aciram&diff=434274094&oldid=432663388

As you are an administrator, I wonder: can I remove the insult from my discussion-page? I have been told that you should not remove posts from discussion-pages. I also hope that you can direct me to the right place in wp to post my report on the IP, if I have placed it on the rong place now. Thank you! --Aciram (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep, you can remove stuff from your own talk page if you so desire. =) --slakr\ talk / 23:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
So I can remove anything I like from my talkpage, even if it was written by someone else? I see. Thank you very much!--Aciram (talk) 13:09, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes—within reason—and there are some exceptions to this. See the user page guideline for the details. Additionally you shouldn't alter/remove people's comments in a way that misrepresents what they said, for example. Other than that, you're basically free to remove stuff from your talk page. However it's highly encouraged, for practical reasons, to not remove comments but to archive them to a subpage instead. That way you and others can easily point people to past discussions or reference them yourself without having to sift through a myriad of diffs in your talk page's page history to find a discussion from ages ago. --slakr\ talk / 13:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
...but when it comes to vandalism, it's convention to just remove them outright instead of archiving them. :P --slakr\ talk / 13:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Basically, it is wrong to change what people have written by, for example, leave some of it and delete the rest, but not to delete everything they have written. I think I understand. --Aciram (talk) 17:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Archives.gov grabber

Thanks for your help so far! I'm going to list some of the improvements I'd like to see. No pressure

  • The "author" field is a bit of a problem, but I think it is better to leave it out rather than duplicate the "creator" field. I made those distinct parameters because the "creator" (e.g.., House of Representatives or the National Park Service) is often not the "author" (e.g., the employee of the agency, or the person whose testimony or evidence became part of the congressional record). Perhaps there could be an optional author field in the form where the user manually tells the grabber the author, and if left blank the parameter is omitted. It defaults to "Author not provided or unknown." in the template when omitted.
  •  Done In "Variant control numbers," I think it would be more readable for the editors if each new line is also on a new line in the wikitext, rather than just separated by a <br>.
  •  Done In the "Location" field, I really want to omit all that extraneous contact information. These are always in the same format, so perhaps " PHONE:" and all information on that line after that can be disregarded? We just want the location where the physical idem is housed; readers can go to the actual catalog record for contact information.
  • I am adding a "General notes" parameter to mirror the "General note(s)" field in ARC (e.g., [9]).
  •  Done There appear to be many ways to display the dates. Right now the grabber just works with "Production date(s)", which is probably based on the examples I supplied, but there can also be "Coverage date(s)", "Broadcast date(s)", "Release date(s)", and "Copyright date(s)".
  •  Done Also, for the date outputs, it would be useful to convert them to Commons format rather than simply copying. All NARA dates are displayed as MM/DD/YYYY , MM/YYYY, or YYYY, so it should be parsable to use commons:Template:Date in the format {{date|YYYY|MM|DD}}.
  • I'm not entirely sure how to handle the "TIFF" part. The idea is that if it is a high-quality TIFF from the National Archives' master files, it should be placed in a separate category. Maybe a "TIFF?" box, already checked by default, and if it is unchecked the "|TIFF=yes" will be omitted?
  •  Done Right now, the tool outputs the descriptive template, but I imagined it also outputting the entire necessary page text. That means == {{int:filedesc}} == at the top and the licensing at the bottom. This gets a little tricky because not all NARA items will use the same copyright tag. {{PD-USGov}} is acceptable, though non-specific, for most cases, so the default output should look like this:
== {{int:license}} ==
{{NARA-cooperation}}
{{PD-USGov}}
  • Maybe another field where the user could optionally enter the agency's code for the copyright license? For example, "Congress," "Interior," or "Military-Navy" would make {{PD-USGov-Congress}}, {{PD-USGov-Interior}}, or {{PD-USGov-Military-Navy}} instead.

Hopefully these are doable and make sense. And I'm sure I'll have more eventually. ;-) But the tool is already really useful! Dominic·t 16:06, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Other issues:
    • Something went wrong with the date field. It now gives all dates as "{{date|1970|01|01}}" (e.g. [10], [11], [12])
    • It's still having trouble with "Coverage Dates" ([13] vs. [14])
    • It doesn't seem to work with file units. File units are the (optional) subgrouping in between actual items and series. That is, every item belongs to a series and record group, but some also belong to a file unit. Compare the hierarchy tabs for [15] and [16]. Currently, you'll notice that [17] puts the file unit in the "Series" parameter, when it should put the series there and put the file unit in a "|File unit=" field.
  • Thanks for your work earlier today. :-) Dominic·t 03:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

User:ProcseeBot

Howdy. As a new administrator, I stumbled on an unblock request from a user account that was blocked by IP. Details are here. I initially enabled "Anon only" on the block, but then reverted after reading the policy about open proxies. I'd like to make a suggestion though. Could you please have ProcseeBot use some sort of "Report unblock requests here" type message in the block rationale in the future? It would've saved me the confusion.--v/r - TP 01:46, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Question

In view of your earlier statement (and what little I may know of you in regards to your desire to not be involved in arbitration stuff), I've asked you a question at the MickMacNee case workshop; the question is in response to the comment you made there. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

And I've asked a follow up (hopefully it's distilled enough so that there is no lack of clarity in what I am trying to ascertain). Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I have left you with a response there which may be of relevance in the future. Unless you wish to clarify anything you've said earlier, I have no further questions. Thank you for your responses and I'll leave it at that. Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Coat of Arms of Nepal file on wikimedia needs to be replaced

Hi,

Thanks for your kind note on my talk page. I am new to editing Wikipedia and I am mainly interested in working on materials related to Nepal. Currently (and actually for about a year now) I am trying to upgrade the .svg image of the Coat of Arms of Nepal (Image). I even uploaded an upgraded version of the .svg file last summer but at some point later on an administrator took off the new image. I also uploaded a .gif file which was converted to .png by another user. This image (fortunately) has not been taken down image.

The continued use of this inaccurate image is particularly bothering because almost everyone on the Internet seems to be using the current image.

Also, it seems I can't re-upload the upgraded version of the file because it has already faced deletion once. Therefore I thought of asking you for help.

Thanks a lot for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely PraShree (talk) 04:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

This matter has been resolved (almost). Thanks. PraShree (talk) 23:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback#User:HXL49

When you have the chance, you may want to check this out. He appears to be up to his old tricks. -FASTILY (TALK) 20:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Charge Bikes page

Hi, just trying to understand how to have my page not deleted in future. I read up on making it objective and about information and including external references etc. however, it was still deleted, reason given that it was blatant advertising however there was not even a logo included, there was an extensive and accurate history of the brand and a brief objective introduction. There was no text designed to be advertising the brand. There are many pages of other bicycle companies that are constructed in a similar style and these have not been deleted. Please elaborate so that I don't make the same mistake again. Thanks (JamesC85 (talk) 08:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC))

Check your email

Lawrence914 (talk) 00:12, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Lawrence914

With regard to Jeff Harris (soldier), especially in this instance, the page must meet the biographies of living persons policy or it will be deleted. It must contain sources, on the page, and all negative statements should be unquestionably sourced. Also, if the reason the person is notable is because of their involvement in a single, widely-publicized event, then and article should be created for the event and not the person. --slakr\ talk / 00:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


What absolute crap... if you had let me finish the article, then there could have been sources for the statements. Lawrence914 (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Lawrence914

I understand you disapprove of this, but we are very strict when it comes to newly-created pages with negative, unsourced statements. It is the page creator's job to provide sources on the page that back up negative statements before the page is inserted into the main article space (and therefore becomes visible to search engines). We would take same action if someone created a negative, unsourced article using your real name, as well—without waiting for them to source it at some point in the indeterminate future. --slakr\ talk / 00:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

And I sent you the sources... but apparently you choose not to review them. Typical Wikinazi behavior. Congrats on finding something that makes you feel powerful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrence914 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

As a volunteer who does this in his free time, I'm not exactly able to research every single new article that is squarely violating our most stringent of policies, become well-versed in the topic at hand, and then add sources to it. The burden is on the article's creator to meet our policies and guidelines so that the article is not speedily deleted right after it is created when it comes to potentially-libelous content. You're free to create the article again, but include the sources directly on the page. In fact, as long as you state why the person is notable and include the sources for potentially negative statements, then the article won't be immediately deleted. It's your choice. --slakr\ talk / 00:43, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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