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Hey, where have you been?

I realize you haven't been around much. I hope you're OK. EEng 05:43, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Me, too. Today I was looking over an ANI discussion thinking, "I wonder what Softlavender would say" and realized I hadn't seen you in quite a while. Hope all is well and you're just busy. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey y'all, I signed up for a handful of classes and got very busy with coursework and homework. I am, however, thankfully well and in good health. I hope to be back on board more now, or quite soon. Thanks for your thoughts and comments, EEng and Liz! Have I missed anything? :) Softlavender (talk) 01:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't visit ANI much any more which is strange because I hung out there so much when I was a novice editor. But problems seem more unresolvable than in the past or maybe I've stopped seeing situations in black & white. Because these days I mainly work with expiring drafts and categories, looking at page histories, I see the names of long-time editors who have been blocked over the past 12 months, some of whom are at the top of Wikipedians with Most Edits list. Kind of puts a big hole in the "Unblockables" theory. Having hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of edits doesn't mean you won't get blocked if you consistently flout the rules. Glad you're back! Liz Read! Talk! 01:42, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Liz, thanks for your comment. Yes, I had noticed that after you got the mop you focused mainly on mopping instead of ANI. Saw that with Oshwah as well; probably others including I think Johnuniq. Understandable, but too bad as we need thoughtful experienced people at ANI, and sometimes that number dwindles. Also, the threads aren't archiving enough for admins to see things that need attention -- it gets filled with too many threads at a time. I go through periods with ANI; right now it's generally too stressful and overwhelming and I like to focus on things or articles I care about. Wasn't entirely aware about the recent percentage of longterm editors being blocked! But I think everyone has less and less tolerance for bad behavior, and also ever since the FramBan thing the judges and juries have been more in a hanging mood. Anyway, nice to hear from you! I hope you are well. Softlavender (talk) 02:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I still hassle a small number of people at ANI but I stay away from the pointless arguments. For example, there's someone named EEng who is always there after throwing outrageous slings or arrows such as calling an editor a pilgrim. Only those with terminal ennui would join a food fight like that. Johnuniq (talk) 03:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
He sounds like a jackass. Softlavender (talk) 03:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Personal attacks.

Hi Softlavender. You have made a variety of personal attacks against me [1] [2] and I would just like you to know that that is not in the spirit of collaboration and Wikipedia. I ask that you refrain from defiling and personally attacking me because I am trying to build a factual NPOV encyclopedia. We can have discussion on bias instead of throwing insults at each other. Thank you. ButterSlipper (talk) 01:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

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I have reported you.

Hi Softlavender. You may want to know that I have reported you here. [3] Thanks. ButterSlipper (talk) 06:14, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

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Editting can be a bit of a roller coaster, it seems? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Martinevans123 I'm assuming you are referencing the backlash I've received from reporting Softlavender. Very funny/s. ButterSlipper (talk) 12:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Instead of just denying you might have made any mistakes in your first 10 days, and contradicting any criticism levelled at you, why not choose a few articles, wholly different to the current topic area, and make some useful improvements to those? People might then think you were serious about being a long-term editing asset? Otherwise, if you really do believe that "Wikipedia is corrupted on a fundamental level. It has been purged of any sense of internal democracy, and a fanatical gang of obsessive, politically motivated editors control its content, effectively monopolizing the entire world’s easy access to information", I'm not sure you'll be around long enough to change it. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Apologies

I apologize for starting a digression which was unnecessary for resolving the issue under discussion at the incidents noticeboard. I ought to have remained focused on the bigger picture of working towards a consensus view. isaacl (talk) 00:44, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Isaacl, that was kind of you to say. No worries. Softlavender (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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Hi. We do not let the filer of a report have ultimate control over the name of the report, we especially don't let them name the report after their preferred outcome when it is not the case. I have been changing ANI headings to neutral ones for about 12 years now without issue, it is a common practice which is described at WP:TALKHEADPOV and WP:SECTIONHEADINGOWN. Section headings are not owned by any editor and need to be a neutral description of the discussion. It is not fair to Goodday to have section archived with a name like that. I hope that you understand. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 05:57, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi HighInBC, administrators noticeboards are not talkpages. The guidelines you have cited are for article talkpages, not for AN or ANI. I'm sure GoodDay would rather have the full measure of the filer's endlessly deceptive accusations and battleground behavior than have the heading watered down to something neutral and totally unlike what it was. Softlavender (talk) 06:04, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
@GoodDay: thanked me for the edit. Again I have been doing this since I became an admin in 2006. I have added a note to refer to the original section heading. Just because it is not an article talk page does not mean that non-neutral section headings with attacks in them are okay. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 06:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
All right, as long as GoodDay is OK with it, and as long as the change is clearly noted in the thread. Whenever I get "dragged" to ANI or AN, I prefer the filer's ludicrous claims to remain in the header. That way their folly is more evident and they get blocked or shut down faster. Softlavender (talk) 06:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
After all the accusations from the currently blocked editor. I still had 'a little' sympathy, to allow his over-the-top report title to be mellowed. I'm hoping he'll be less combative in two weeks. GoodDay (talk) 09:21, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

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Re your reversion of my close. What do you think about re-closing with a correct block period? Mjroots (talk) 09:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mjroots, IMO that would not be appropriate either. The two-week block was only to prevent him from continuing to troll on the AN thread. There is a currently growing consensus to re-indef him (i.e., reinstate your original indef and/or raise the two-week block to indef), especially if you read between the lines on the votes (many of which are from admins). See also his talkpage rants since the two-week block. Softlavender (talk) 09:49, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I'l not press the point. There's constructive editing to be done. Those lists of shipwrecks don't write themselves, you know. Mjroots (talk) 10:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
LOL, I saw you were in the middle of that. Yeah, maybe let some other admin make the call, since theoretically you are already "involved" in the case considering the original indef. Softlavender (talk) 10:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

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You really need to strike these false accusations and [4]. Even that shitty source does not say I "perpetuated a hoax". Making that kind of an accusation against another editor, completely unfounded and false, is a very egregious Personal Attack and frankly, I have trouble understanding how any decent person could do that to another. Volunteer Marek 23:31, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda

Nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda
So here's some Jingle Wings and some Jingle Navidad Cubana and some Bryn and some Crickmore:Crewe just for you!!

Very best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:41, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

nice painting

Does Cézanne get the amount of recognition they deserve? ~ cygnis insignis 08:40, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I like Cézanne, but not everything he did. But this one painting is his great masterpiece, IMO. Same re: Hogarth and the painting on my userpage. Softlavender (talk) 10:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Prolific sock

that you replied to here. I can strike through or just delete it. Doug Weller talk 11:42, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, seemed like an LTA. Someone has archived the thread now. Softlavender (talk) 09:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi @Softlavender: I don't think you understand how the notability tag works. The tag is two-state system. If somebody put's the tag on, and then another checks the article and thinks it is notable and removes the tag, then that is it. That is WP:AGF. After that, if you still think it non-notable, then it must go to Afd. If it is pssses Afd, then it is notable. That is the current process. scope_creepTalk 09:10, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Softlavender: I saw the comments on the talk. I think it probably doomed now. scope_creepTalk 09:24, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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Wow, I totally forgot about that thing! I didn't end up finding enough RS sourcing of any great note, probably because of his youth. I had seen him in an opera production (online) and wanted to explore if he met wiki criteria, but it was WP:TOOSOON. -- Softlavender (talk) 06:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi @Softlavender: How are you? I was wondering if you fancy take a look at Rosemary Ann Robbins Dobbins. I think she is notable but it needs some good editors to dig up some sources, if you have time. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 15:56, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi scope creep, I gave the article a very cursory cleanup (which may have to be further cleaned up because I'm working via laptop, which I'm not used to, plus the screen is very glare-y). That's all I really have time to do at present; I'm in the middle of a house-move and am in limbo, so I don't really have time to dig up useful citations and so forth. Obviously the article seems a bit bloated, but it may meet notability. Have you tried enlisting or alerting the folks at Women In Red? They would seem the obvious go-to editors at this juncture if notability is in question. Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 03:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Softlavender:. My corrections of vague & erroneous identifications of NASA spacecraft, along with minor grammatical tweaks (the addition of commas) in the titling of other images - in order to maintain consistency - have been blown away by your reverting to the previous display.

IP, you'll have to discuss your unexplained and uncited edits (which are in direct contradiction to the file information) on the article's talkpage, and get consensus for them before trying to reinstitute them. Softlavender (talk) 00:46, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

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How very dare you, Jack Frost! I mean, thank you very much. :) Softlavender (talk) 09:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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Lathallan School

Coming back to your earlier concerns about Draft:Lathallan School, I have left a couple of comments on the draft. I think it's probably notable by now and an editor is determined to make it so. However, in an attempt to expand the article it now has a distinct overall promotional tone so I won't be moving it to mainspace any time soon. Any concerns about the creator's other edits are not part of this, they only provided the first 7.2% of the text while the other editor has added 82.8% since it has been in draftspace. Thus you are welcome to add a comment there or even attempt to clean it up (if you feel motivated). What do you think? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:24, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung, I agree with your analysis. It's surprising, but even a tiny school with an average year size of 25 pupils can be notable I suppose. I'm not really inclined any more to mess with it. I'll just let matters take their course. Thanks very much for your attentiveness to the article. Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 00:15, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
That's fine - I won't be wasting time on it either unless I later have to explain to an AfC reviewer that something as spammy doesn't belong in mainspace. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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Antony Armstrong-Jones, 1st Earl of Snowdon

Hi ! I received an alert from Wikipedia informing me that you reverted my edit of yesterday, where I corrected "grandson" in "great-grandson" for the parentage between Rodolphe and Hugo von Hofmannsthal. However, Rodolphe (1980-) is the son of Octave (1946-) and Annabel Lee/Lea, son of Raimund (1906-1974) and Elizabeth Paget (the 6th Marquess of Anglesey's daughter), son of Hugo (1874-1929) and Gertrud Schlesinger, that is to say that Rodolphe is actually Hugo's great-grandson. You can check here : Hugo von Hofmannsthal and Raimund von Hofmannsthal, as well as in Burke's Peerage, for instance here : http://www.thepeerage.com/p18012.htm#i180114. I was not able to find an explanation from you in the "View history" why you reverted it. Would you please explain it to me ? Thanks a lot, and please forgive my english, I'm French ! Jagellon (talk) 19:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jagellon. Your edit directly contradicted the citation (The Times), which states "He is the grandson of the poet and dramatist Hugo von Hofmannsthal, who collaborated with Richard Strauss." If you change a cited statement on Wikipedia, you need to change the citation to something that confirms it, which you didn't. I later searched online for evidence that Rodolphe is Hugo's great-grandson, and was not able to find a citation in English but I did finally find one in German, which I then used and changed the information accordingly. Softlavender (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Oh sorry, I just saw the alert of my edit being reverted, but I didn't notice that you later reintegrated the word "great-grandson". I also have to admit that I didn't pay attention to the Times reference, I was just surprised to read "grandson" and modified this... In the future I'll be more accurate about those sort of things. But if you please, I would point the fact that I took it very rude to be reverted without a personal word ! And maybe even more to see my edit being readmitted without, we won't say apology, but at least a sympathetic topic. Have a good night whatsoever and thank you for your answer :) Jagellon (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, Softlavender, I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to reach out to you directly to address a few concerns and clarify my intentions as a newcomer to Wikipedia. Firstly, I would like to apologize if there have been any misunderstandings or misconceptions about my contributions thus far. I wholeheartedly believe in Wikipedia's motto of “be bold” and the valuable contributions that newcomers can bring, and took this at face value. I genuinely appreciate the opportunity to learn from experienced editors like yourself and to become a valued member of the Wikipedia community. I understand that you nominated the article I created about one of the only two concerts Harry Nilsson performed during his lifetime for speedy deletion within a day of me starting it, and it was subsequently deleted. I apologize if my initial attempt fell short in providing sufficient information. I have been reading a biography on Harry Nilsson and was eager to include new insights and citations to enrich the article. However, I was not given the chance to expand the article before it was deleted, which has left me feeling disheartened. Additionally, I noticed via the comment left by the user RL0919 (talk) on the discussion page that the result of the nomination was a suggestion to merge the article, but unfortunately, the content I wrote was completely removed, preventing me from contributing to the merged article as well. I have also received alerts regarding comments you left on other users' pages, stating that I have a conflict of interest regarding the article on Stanley Dorfman. I want to assure you that there is no conflict of interest on my part. My interest in music television from the UK during the 60s and 70s stems from my personal background and love for British music and television as I grew up there. I have extensively read autobiographies and biographies on the subject matter and consider myself an avid researcher. After coming across Stanley Dorfman's name in several books, I discovered that his Wikipedia article was lacking in detail and proper references, despite his significant role in music television. My intention was simply to contribute my knowledge and help expand the article, not to promote any personal agenda. I understand too, that you nominated every photograph I uploaded for use in multiple articles as well as Dorfman's for deletion. I would like to address the comment you made (I believe on the Drmies (talk) or Johnbod (talk) page), where you referred to my contributions as "rabid." Such disparaging remarks are disheartening and discourage further contributions. I request that we maintain a respectful and constructive environment as we interact with one another. I am dedicated to accuracy, integrity, and completeness in my research, and I aspire to uphold those principles in any edits and contributions I make. As a newcomer, I am eager to learn from more experienced editors and correct any mistakes I may make along the way. It would be immensely encouraging if, in the future, you could directly notify me of any errors or point me towards relevant policy pages, so that I may have the opportunity to rectify any missteps and improve. I would sincerely appreciate any guidance and feedback you may have, and the opportunity to learn from your wisdom and experience. I am committed to dedicating my time and effort to contribute meaningfully to Wikipedia and expand the information available, particularly on topics that genuinely interest me. I hope to one day become a valued member of the Wikipedia community. Thank you for taking the time to read this message. I genuinely appreciate your consideration and look forward to your response. SacredLotus7 (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Not my talk! An administrator (like Drmies maybe) should be able to let you view the deleted content for recycling. Johnbod (talk) 16:01, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you I appreciate this message. I am for some reason unable to leave a message on Drmies's talk page but it's encouraging to learn that I may be allowed to view the deleted content so that I can merge it with the main article. SacredLotus7 (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
It isn't stated in the comments above, but I'm guessing this is about the merge result for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night (TV special). If you want to access the older versions of A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night (TV special), you can view the history page for it here. --RL0919 (talk) 16:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
I was commenting on a series of concerns, however one of them was about being unable to see the older versions of the A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night (TV special) article, so thank you very much RL0919 (talk) for sending the link where I can access the previous versions, much appreciated. SacredLotus7 (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
SacredLotus7, I have not nominated for deletion any of the photographs you uploaded. I have not done a single thing with any of them. Softlavender (talk) 01:19, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Looking at your comments again, I do see that you are correct, you didn't actually nominate the files for deletion, however you did make comments such as "“Over-enthusiastic newbie SacredLotus7 (talk · contribs) has just uploaded a whole bunch of non-free images and added them to Stanley Dorfman. I can't really assess their allowability… either this is rabid fanship or some form of COI”, which along with the other concerns I mentioned in my message above, led to the request I made to maintain a respectful and constructive environment, and to me saying that instead of disparaging comments to others, it would be encouraging to me as a newcomer if, in the future, you would consider directly notifying me first of any concerns or errors or point me towards relevant policy pages, so that I may have the opportunity to rectify any missteps and improve. I do hope that what you took away from what I wrote is positive and that you can see and understand the various points I made, that was and is my hope and intent. Thank you. SacredLotus7 (talk) 01:54, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

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Non-breaking space

Were you saying that I didn’t put in a non-breaking space in “A. M. Homes” or that it shouldn’t be a non-breaking space? Because if the latter, as a member of the two-initial club, I respectfully disagree. D A Hosek (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Please read the edit summary. I did not believe that merely repeating the exact same name as a piped redirect kept initials together (I've never seen it do that before), but I checked just now and it does. Softlavender (talk) 01:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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OK thanks, CaptainEek. Can I post the gist of my comment without the private quotation? Softlavender (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2023 (UTC) Never mind, I thought my whole post had been nuked but I now see only the quote was nuked. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 03:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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