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[CharlieEchoTango] 07:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

sonia 01:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Still travelling?

I'm at home today, but heading off again in a few days. Did I miss an email? :P I'll go check now. sonia 01:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Just read your mail, will answer when I can. Far too late right now! :\ Are the Qld/'Brissy' floods getting much coverage in NZ? - 220.101 talk\Contribs 17:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Not a huge deal, no. Take your time w/ the reply. sonia 05:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Nearly a month! So sorry! <slinks away and hides> - 220.101 talk\Contribs 15:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
aww, and I thought perhaps my spam filter had eaten your mail (it tends to eat mail from at least two Wikipedians in particular!) No probs, though, I sometimes end up doing that myself... sonia 08:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
<peeks out from hiding place, wary of frozen trouts>What does E-mail taste like? ;-) A battery across the tongue? Metallic? Ozone? I have got a new monitor (Benq GL2430H) though, just before I went back to work! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 13:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
New monitor is good news! Your old one well needed replacement... I'm saving up for a new laptop myself. I've never personally eaten email, but you could ask my spam folder what it tastes like (seasoned with saucy adverts no doubt!) As for trouts, because of the price hike I'm reserving them for administrators, so you can come out now ;) sonia 00:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
12+ days! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 17:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
<presents trout wrapped in the Sunday newspaper> Congrats, you've earned it sonia 21:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor Sonia

Sonia, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Sonia and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

As long as I don't end up being merged with something/someone else... sonia 01:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Novacam Technologies

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Nice copyediting work; everything looked good. - Dank (push to talk) 04:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Good to know :) Still not happy with the sentence about the former slaves and their sons in the paragraph detailing the revolt, but I'm not sure how it could be improved. sonia 05:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Regarding your edit summary: I was in the middle of copyediting the article for A-class, so I had to keep track of all the edits, and since I knew you did a good job, I figured I'd tell you :) Feel free to edit MILHIST articles any time. - Dank (push to talk) 19:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Danke

Thank you; I was actually about ready to do that after I finished notifying Franamax. —Jeremy (v^_^v Hyper Combo K.O.!) 07:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy tenth anniversary of Wikipedia!

I suggest a small one! File:Verre de whisky.jpg - 220.101 talk\Contribs 03:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

You've been very helpful.

Thank you very much; I greatly appreciate it. Anglom (talk) 05:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

No probs :) sonia 09:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

HI

Hi I am a senior at Simmons College and was wondering if you would help me out as my mentor with this project. We have not picked our topics yet but will do so in the next week.Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Symons2 (talkcontribs) 06:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be glad to be your mentor. I'll pop a note on your talk page tomorrow morning ;) sonia 09:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I just went and found a ton of articles they are on my user page. Let me know what you think. Thanks Symons2 (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi Sonia, So i have my additions on my sandbox page. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks, Symons2 (talk)

Hi, thanks for the help with the SSE logo and stuff, I added some stuff to the page you used to contact me on, could you check that out? And again, thanks! Purplesky91 (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, no, I didn't mean to say it's not the official logo. I mean to say that I Made it and it IS the official logo. It's on the website, link's on my talk page. So it should be fine now right? Purplesky91 (talk) 06:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I apologize for the, what can I say, over-zealous editing some of my professors at college may be attempting on that page. I'm doing my best to keep it clean. Thanks for the help!

DYK for Wilmer Tanner

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Uh, I don't remember being involved in that, but okay... sonia 00:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I put you down because of copy-editing the translation. Thank you for the help! See you round! TCO (talk) 02:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah, right. CET asked me to look over his translation- I didn't expect that that would be counted as "creation or substantial expansion"! Either way- I'd be happy to do a copyedit for you any time :) sonia 04:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Lies, lies! My translations are perfect! [CharlieEchoTango] 05:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Nous can do some more. Il ya becoup des herpes Americaines dans le Wiki francais.TCO (talk) 05:19, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I understood most of that, bar "herpes". (surely you don't mean "There is a lot of American herpes in the French Wikipedia?" :P) Mm- mon français est terrible, but if CET does the (perfect) translation I can play the same role again :) sonia 06:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, that's how it translates anyways. Strange thing to say!. Of course, perfect translations anytime! [CharlieEchoTango] 06:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Les herpetologists: studiers of herpes I guess.  ;) TCO (talk) 17:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Either way, whether there's lots of herpes or people studying herpes there, it must be quite an epidemic! And if it can be spread via the internet, I'd better stay away from francophones like Charlie then... ;) sonia 04:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
If your EFD results in a merge with another editor...TCO (talk) 05:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Be my mentor for my Public Relations Seminar class!

Hi my name is Claudia. A senior in Simmons College. Communications Major with a minor in Managament and Film. I use wikipedia, but never ever added or contributed to it before this class. And to be honest I have no idea what I am doing with Wiki and its editing tool. Hopefully I am able t catch up. For our class each student has to research, write, and edit a Wikipedia entry on a public policy issue that is integral to a case study of crisis communications that I select or is given to me. I have 2 cases that I need to research; one on GM and one on WikiLeaks. Cdjsuarez (talk) 15:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Claudia! I'd love to be your mentor. I've dropped you a welcome message that hopefully helps you a bit with what you're doing on-wiki; you can always reach me on Gtalk or MSN if you'd like real-time help with editing (email me for details). Your class looks to be following the suggested timeline for the most part; I'll be following that along and checking on you as time passes, but do feel free to ask for help with anything at any point, and explore the place beyond the constraints of your assignment! sonia 04:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

So I am interested in working on some LGBT rights or Human rights in the US, but my professor finds the topic too broad, and maybe not enough to work on or edit on. Do you have any suggestions? Also - I am researching some more this weekend - but feel free to give me feedback and advise. Cdjsuarez (talk) 18:35, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Im looking for a mentor, would you possibly consider...

I'm new to Wikipedia as a student at Montana State University, taking NAS 426 Law and Policy and am looking for an online mentor, who will be available to offer advice and assistance as I start editing. Thanks Misstbird 153.90.170.89 (talk) 19:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Misstbird, I see that you've also asked KrakatoaKatie about this; I feel she would be a better mentor and will leave it up to her :) If she's too busy to take you on, I'm afraid I've already got the two mentees I've set as my tentative limit this semester, but I can certainly point you to others in our group of excellent mentors whom I've had personal contact with and trust. Don't feel restricted by your assignment's details-- experimenting with Wikipedia (especially before the due dates start looming) will help you do well and make this experience more fun as well! :) sonia 04:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Mentor request

Hey Sonia,

I am a student at James Madison University in a copy editing class. We are working on a wikipedia project doing copy editing on public policy pages. I'd love for you to be my mentor if your up to it. Thanks for your time!

Ohheyheidi (talk) 21:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ohheyheidi, good to see a student who's really getting into the swing of editing. From what I can see, you've done excellently so far, especially in leaving descriptive summaries of what you're doing in each edit. Unfortunately, I'm a bit busy this semester and feel you'd be better off with a mentor who has more time to devote to the project- I'd be more than happy to point you in the direction of one who I think would do a great job, if you'd like that. Do take the time to mess around with Wikipedia outside your course's scope, though- I came to love it and I hope you do too! We're always in need of more editors like you. :) Let me know what you decide. sonia 04:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Coordinating a course

Hey Sonia, would you be interested in coordinating Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Spring 2011/Public Relations Seminar (Marlene Fine)? It would just require occasionally checking that nothing falls through the woodworks working with the students, and making sure the ambassadors are responding to queries and reviewing content. Also, if there are issues or the class needs attention, you could be the central contact for e-mailing the Google group, etc. If not, no worries, someone else can do it to! Sadads (talk) 01:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. I told myself that I'd be very careful about committing to things this term, because I'm undertaking part-time study (math, for any curious talk page stalkers) on top of carrying on with nearly everything I had been involved with in 2010; toward the end of last year life had become a bit much and I don't want that to happen again. However, seeing as I'm already mentoring two students from what appears to be a fairly small and well-organized class with experienced campus ambassadors, I'll give it further thought. (For what it's worth, halfway through last semester I volunteered to coordinate a course, but there was much lesser activity than anticipated and keeping track of all the students- who for the most part did not have mentors- was a nightmare.)
Also, you've showed up quite a lot on my watchlist of late inviting editors into the programme or otherwise doing work for it- I'd like to thank you for the effort you've gone to in not only keeping up with all this, but taking the initiative to go far beyond. sonia 04:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I am glad to see you appreciate my efforts. I really do feel this program is invaluable to the community and has unfettered potential if we figure out ways to make it effective. Again, I don't want to put too much pressure on you, but I think everyone would appreciate your support :) Sadads (talk) 04:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Mentor Request

Hi Sonia, I am a junior at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Virginia. I am majoring in Media Arts and Design and Writing, Rhetoric and Technical Communications. This semester, I am in a Professional and Technical Editing class that is working on the U.S. Public Policy Project. I have yet to pick the exact topic that I will be working on. I was hoping that once I do, you will be able to help me and answer any questions that I may have. Will you be my mentor?

DsgnWrte (talk) 20:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi DsgnWrte, I'm sorry about the extremely belated response- I see Dana's happy to be your mentor though, and I'd recommend her over myself any day. Glad to see you getting stuck into editing already- take the time to explore the place a bit, and have fun! I hope that you'll stay on after your assignment finishes :) sonia 08:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

keep up the good work

Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar
For excellent work as an Online Ambassador so far, especially for reliable help provided to students and others on IRC, I award sonia the Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar. --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! sonia 00:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

mentorship

Hello there, I selected you as my mentor when we started this project. On our class page, it doesn't show you next to my screen name. Are we good to go here or should I find another mentor? thanks so much! Penandpad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penandpad (talkcontribs) 21:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Penandpad, I don't believe I was aware of your choice. If you take a look at your contribs, you'll see the list of edits you've made so far-- only one to my talk page (and thus to communicate with me), and that was the one you've made just now. I'm unfortunately full up on mentees and don't want to take you on only to find I can't meet your needs; however, I'd be more than happy to recommend you to another mentor who'll do a great job. Good to see you testing things out- being bold and having fun are important things! I'm sorry for the inconvenience, do let me know if you'd like me to suggest another mentor. Happy editing, sonia 00:08, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Sock?

No, this is my sock, 'Socks' the cat! (or is that our 'Alien Overlord'?) Note the Zapata-like Moustachio, and evil gaze! :-)) - 220.101 talk\Contribs 15:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Aww, but I wanted to be your evil sock! :P Loving the hat though... sonia 21:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

NZ

Watching the news, I was thinking of you, and hope you are OK. Let me know.  Chzz  ►  06:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Same here. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Safe and well; no word from others though. sonia 07:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Yay ! So far, anyway. - 220.101 talk\Contribs 08:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
You Kiwis are making this a very bad habit. Keep safe down there. Courcelles 09:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Sonia. Best wishes, and I'll speak to you soon. Chzz  ►  11:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

For any talk page stalkers, all but one of my friends and family are now accounted for; several have lost homes but are alive- and that's what matters. Also, a huge thank you to all of you who've sent me emails and IRC memos and otherwise expressed your concern and support; it's been most appreciated. (Anyone who'd like to help out: [1].) sonia 04:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

IP Mail

You have G-mail. - 220.101 talk\Contribs 09:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

And replied. sonia 22:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

could you take a look at it? thanks Kayau Voting IS evil 15:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

done, though I'm sure your zh is a lot better than mine! :P sonia 22:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

My subpage Article

I've noticed you've fixed my spelling mistake. Thanks for picking that up. My only concern for that one footnote, I was going to make it longer and explain that "England offered refuge" (Whittle, (2010) p. 9.) but I thought that this footnote was only for his birth place and year, while adding his parents were German. I'll think about where I could put his parents background and "England offeredd refuge" somewhere in the article, while I'm in no hurry to post it to the main article on wikipedia. As long as no one else makes any edits before I do! Thanks for your help in #wikipedia-en-help. I'll add your page to my watchlist. Adamdaley (talk) 06:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

sonia,

Could you read the lead paragraph to see if it makes sense and make any changes that you think would work. Trying to get his multiple names to the "note" section and even the meaning of his name to the "note" section. Adamdaley (talk) 13:08, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

will do. sonia 22:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I can see what you've done. I did find a little mistake you made missing a fullstop, then the footnote should be after the fullstop, I can easily fix that myself. This is the second article that I've helped with but the first article a major addition. Sadly, this article, does have a few other people who were involved with this person directly or indirectly, but at the moment I'm concentrating on this one. I'll do a little more of it tonight or tomorrow. Once again, your help is appreciated. How much do you charge for each edit? Adamdaley (talk) 09:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Merged all your sections on this talk page into one for easy reference, Adam, hope you don't mind. I'm more than happy to keep working w/ you on the article, and on any more you're creating-- you've done very well. Charge? I'll think about it and get back to you ;) sonia 01:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking of doing the "merging" of the three sections into one. But I wasn't sure if you would like it or not. The only article I'm working on is the one on my subpage. There is starting to be a problem with the opening paragraph and then his early life with information I have. It's conflicting and I know the opening paragraph is only an basic summary of who this guy was and what he was notable for. The main conflict is how to word it and where to put it then reference/source/footnote it. For example, in his information box there is a name used as "Emil R. Goldfus", one book has it like that, then another one has "Emil Robert Goldfus". A second example would be another name he used "Andrew Kayotis" which is the English translation from the Lithuanian name but later in the same book it has "Andrew Yurgesovich Kayotis". So I am a little confused on what to do about those two examples. Which are already referenced or footnoted without the middle name. Once again I appreciate all the help you've done for me. Also, I have your discussion/talkpage on my watchlist. Adamdaley (talk) 05:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Thinking about it. sonia 22:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Japan Earthquake

You are probably 'all quaked out', but there has been a major quake (8.9!), and a tsunami in Japan! See 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami. Oz TV News said 5th biggest ever recorded! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 07:33, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I got nineteen edit conflicts trying to copyedit that article last night! Poor Japan; aftershocks every ten minutes- each comparable in intensity to the Chch quake! sonia 22:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
I got 3! But that was only about 3½ hours after the event trying to edit the lead. Indeed, in hindsight, Christchurch may have gotten off lightly. (No tsunami!) Now there are considerable back and forth reports about the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant and a related, (premature I hope!) article Fukushima I disaster.
• The SAR teams now all have recent experience, and some may be able to go straight to Japan (the Japanese SAR team have gone early) as they are already 'in the area.' So some 'good' is coming from your quake, perhaps. :-{ - 220.101 talk\Contribs 14:36, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes :-/ I've recently been involved in helping settle a few exchange students who were studying in Chch into schools here, and it's been a difficult enough road for them already without having to worry about family back home... Made a few minor tweaks to the power plant article, might go through and citeweb all the refs if I have time. sonia 01:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Japanese are they? The "power plant article" is becoming the real story, hope it ends well. Fukushima I disaster as mentioned above, was deleted, but is now a re-direct to the Power Plant thought there is a discussion that seems to be leading to a split again. The video of the explosion of the reactor building was reather worrying. (Godzilla fans had some 'fun' saying it was his/her fault. Rubbish, I know it's Mothra! ;-) )
• The tsunami though reached as far as Oregon(where I have an Uncle, living 'inland') and caused US$30-50 Million(est.) damage in Brookings, Oregon (Updated by moi of course!) - 220.101 talk\Contribs 07:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Mm, Japanese. Seems they've all been able to contact family back home, which is good. I think a split might be a good idea, but perhaps it's a bit early to tell... sonia 22:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Twas split, now merged again (when I started typing anyway!), but apparently against concensus. Re-merge 'discussion' was proposer, one other registered, and one IP editor over about 80 minutes. Took 43 min. for someone to say 'nay' though! The 6 opposers + 'request for independent opinion'. Don't know if this duscussion link will work, if it gets 'de-merged'. UzT! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 14:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Kitten

more like User:Mazca/Malicekitten , but thanks :P sonia 22:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
The Helping Hand Barnstar
For your tireless and kind-hearted efforts in helping every newbie to shine and become a great contributor - all the more important in these times of declining participation. Never lose faith. Dcoetzee 07:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
*blush* What's behind the outpouring of gifts all of a sudden? :) sonia 01:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Cool beans! --Gnom (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Just needed an article to write :) I've been a page-turner a handful of times, but am simply not coordinated enough to do a very good job of it! sonia 01:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I started a 'simple' article too! :-) - 220.101 talk\Contribs 07:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Wow. I don't know if I realised how many "basic" subjects Simple was missing... Courcelles 08:14, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
"Doo-doo, doo-doo. DOO Doo, DOO Doo" (or however the Twilight Zone theme would 'sound' in print)
"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination — Next stop, the Twilight Zone"
- 220.101 talk\Contribs 10:35, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
@220.101: yep, and I see Clem's been following you around copyediting! :P
@Courcelles: simple:October War, for example, doesn't exist either... there's twenty or so active editors, only ten of which create content, and only maybe three prolifically. It's difficult for those numbers to keep up with much, on top of the prolific sockers and other problem users enwiki seems to direct our way. sonia 22:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Well Done!

A very manly man, just like you!

You have been awarded the Manliness Award for helping to construct a great encyclopedia.


Keep up the great work!


A Very Manly Man (talk) 08:12, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I shall tackle my future tasks with my newfound manly authority, since I'm a real boy now! sonia 08:32, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Rolling eyes and laughing. Shame he was blocked, Sadads (talk) 10:00, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 18:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Now I wonder if giving out "womanly woman" awards would be something to propose to the gendergap list... sonia 08:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
"Feminine excellence" awards would be a little better then womanly women methinks, doesn't have the cultural connotations of "womanly", sight we have a mysogonistic culture, Sadads (talk) 11:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Token of Appreciation


The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For patiently and whole-heartedly guided a newbie like me in improving Alodia Gosiengfiao towards a better article, Much appreciated - Shadowmoon9 (talk) 03:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure if a novice like me are already allowed to give a Barnstar hehehe. But yeah please accept this as my of token appreciation. Shadowmoon9 (talk) 03:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Of course you are! That said, you've done an incredible amount of work and produced an article that I'd be proud to make, so well done :) sonia 08:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Marking articles students are working on

Howdy, Online Ambassador!

This is a quick message to all the ambassadors about marking and tracking which articles students are working on. For the classes working with the ambassador program, please look over any articles being worked on by students (in particular, any ones you are mentoring, but others who don't have mentors as well) and do these things:

  1. Add {{WAP assignment | term = Spring 2011 }} to the articles' talk pages. (The other parameters of the {{WAP assignment}} template are helpful, so please add them as well, but the term = Spring 2011 one is most important.)
  2. If the article is related to United States public policy, make sure the article the WikiProject banner is on the talk page: {{WikiProject United States Public Policy}}
  3. Add Category:Article Feedback Pilot (a hidden category) to the article itself. The second phase of the Article Feedback Tool project has started, and this time we're trying to include all of the articles students are working on. Please test out the Article Feedback Tool, as well. The new version just deployed, so any bug reports or feedback will be appreciated by the tech team working on it.

And of course, don't forget to check in on the students, give them constructive feedback, praise them for positive contributions, award them {{The WikiPen}} if they are doing excellent work, and so on. And if you haven't done so, make sure any students you are mentoring are listed on your mentor profile.

Thanks! --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Will do. sonia 08:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

SUL

Hello! User Sonia from gl.wiki was renamed, and the new Sonia it's all for you ;) Bye! --Albert galiza (talk) 16:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! sonia 19:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello from MOTD

Hello. We could do with your assistance for suggestions of mottos and any decisions on current ones. Please see Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations. In case this situation occurs again, we would like a discussion on emergency mottos. Please see WT:MOTD/N#Emergency mottos. Simply south...... 14:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

New Pages and New Users

I've recently been doing some thinking (and a great deal of consultation with Philippe and James at the WMF's community department) on how to keep new users around and participating, particularly in light of Sue's March update. One of the things we'd like to test is whether the reception they get when they make their first article is key. In a lot of cases, people don't stay around; their article is deleted and that's that. By the time any contact is made, in other words, it's often too late.

What we're thinking of doing is running a project to gather data on if this occurs, how often it occurs, and so on, and in the mean time try to save as many pages (and new contributors) as possible. Basically, involved users would go through the deletion logs and through Special:NewPages looking for new articles which are at risk of being deleted, but could have something made of them - in other words, non-notable pages that are potentially notable, or spammy pages that could be rewritten in more neutral language. This would be entirely based on the judgment of the user reviewing pages - no finnicky CSD standards. These pages would be incubated instead of deleted, and the creator contacted and shepherded through how to turn the article into something useful. If they respond and it goes well, we have a decent article and maybe a new long-term editor. If they don't respond, the draft can be deleted after a certain period of time.

I know this isn't necessarily your standard fare, but with your other work I thought it might be up your alley. If you're interested, read Wikipedia:Wiki Guides/New pages, sign up and get involved; questions can be dropped on the talkpage or directed at me. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 21:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm a bit too busy to involve myself in something new, but I'll watchlist the page so I at least know what's going on :P sonia 19:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for undoing the vandalism on my talk page. I don't tend to mind it too much, but it's nice to know someone's watching out :) GedUK  12:26, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

No probs :) sonia 19:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/God Defend New Zealand manuscript

An image uploaded by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, File:God Defend New Zealand manuscript cropped.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! SMasters (talk) 01:38, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
You didn't have to credit me for that, but glad that such a valuable image has been recognized :) Thanks for the work you invested in it. sonia 19:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Chief Shawn J Tyler An American Police Chief

Hi, I didn't actually submit this, I just added the template for a user that seemed a little lost. The page creator was User:Shawn J Tyler. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry- didn't check over what the script had done with that one. I'll be a bit more diligent reviewing histories next time. sonia 19:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Take a look

At this: Chief Shawn J Tyler, creation of which was refused, as above. They never mentioned this either! ;) I wonder if there is a 'sock' in the drawer here? - 220.101 talk\Contribs 11:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

For you

<3 sonia 09:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

;-)

Hello, Sonia. You have new messages at 220.101.28.25's talk page.
Message added 15:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
noted :) sonia 09:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Your WikiHero/Heroine Award

Dear Sonia,

Congratulations! As for being a great and helpful contributor to this project, you have been identified as a hero or heroine of Wikipedia. Thanks alot for all your good and helpful work to this project. You are an awesome Wikipedian to the project.

Your username has appeared on this list.

Good luck and happy editing.

-Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 08:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

For a userbox, you can use {{User:Porchcrop/Identified WikiHero}}. -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 08:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! sonia 10:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Gmail's not working anymore :S I'll try and email you the music... tomorrow hopefully. I hate IE :S —James (TalkContribs)8:55pm 10:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

'k, no probs. sonia 10:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Child admins

Hi Sonia. Your oppose !vote based on comments taken fully out of context very nearly torpedoed my RfA with the pile-on opposition it caused (most of which were later moved to support, but not yours). Fortunately I passed with an overwhwlming majority.Perhaps this is an RfA, which BTW I have clearly supported - where your strong opinion in favour of child sysops - might not save the day, but may cause the numerous editors who are strongly opposed to the notion of teenage Wikipedians to reflect upon their stance. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung.
  • I'm sorry that you took my comment at your RfA as negatively as you appear to have taken it. I do not feel these comments were taken out of context (although they were admittedly out of date), and meant my oppose exactly how it was worded—as a gentle reminder. That it prompted "per Sonia"s is not something I had expected at all. I held the view that you would make a good sysop, but that there was more chance of my concern being noted (by you and by other regulars, for future reference) from the oppose column; as such, I made sure this was clear so that the closing 'crat wouldn't take my vote as a strong one.
  • I'm not going to weigh in re Dylan. I know I've a bit of a reputation for being in favour of younger editors, but that does not mean I would support a candidate simply for that reason. (For the record: I'm keenly aware, working in close contact with the preteen-teenage age group as I am, that adminship would cause significant stress or worse for many minors and evaluate RfAs of clearly young editors with greater care on that basis.)
  • Given I've had my attention drawn to the fact he's a teenage editor, and that it's now very clear I'm outspoken about my belief that the "anyone can edit" clause should by nature include minors, I can't exactly support now without the support being questioned as having been canvassed.
If there were a general discussion about minors as admins, as there have been in the past, I'd certainly weigh in. Thanks for thinking of me, in any case. sonia 09:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for you reply. Please rest assured that I did not take your comment negatively - I did not even beat my grandchildren due to my injured trust and respect for fellow Wikipedians. I simply realised that it was ill researched and a very wrong assessment of the work I do not only with minors here on Wikipedia, but as a highly qualified professional in real life. I actually have an exceptionally forgiving nature - especially where young people are concerned;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Your lovely cupcake

Your present was much nicer. Handmade always is. I didn't have time to make something, so I just threw money at the situation.. :) Actually, a minute ago was the first time I saw your beautiful card. I fly blind on Wikipedia unless I use a proxy. Such is China Unicom. I can't edit with a proxy, so I only use it when I need to see something. Anyway, I saw your IRC. I didn't mean to upstage your gift. :) :) :) :) :) Five smiles! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:21, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Heh. I was playing around w/ OE, didn't mean to intend that I actually felt upstaged :) Now if you'd like to throw something similar at me, I certainly wouldn't object... sonia 01:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

MOTD's State of Emergency + 1st of May's Motto

As you probably already know, we are facing some problems at MOTD. I am personally monitoring all the nominations on a daily basis and I'm finding very difficult to aprove the motto for the next day. The number of nominations has grown significantly, but even then it seems not enough. Please, if you have time, take a look at the nominations. And, if you like some of them but you think they are not good enough for being approved because of the set of links or and etcetera, please, try to improve them where it is possible. At this rate, I fear that we will see the end of the project. Thanks in advance.
I have also added a special nomination for this Sunday, 1st of May (International Workers' Day or May Day). Please, take a look at it if you can.
All the best. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 15:26, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

P.S.: I'm sorry to bother you again, but take a look at this if you can. Once again, thank you. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 18:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Did a quick bit of reviewing. Not very active any more, I'm afraid. sonia 01:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Oz Mail

Hello, Sonia. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

- 220.101 talk\Contribs 07:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

What is it? and how does one edit a page that is semi protected? Hipeople1231 (talk) 06:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello again :)
  • Semi-protection is when a page has been locked so that it can't be edited by any users who don't have accounts (IP addresses) or who are not yet autoconfirmed. It's usually applied when there has been ongoing vandalism to a page from many non-autoconfirmed or anonymous editors, and occasionally for other reasons.
  • The reason why you cannot edit these pages yet is that you are not autoconfirmed; your account needs to have been registered for four days and made ten edits to be autoconfirmed. You have enough edits, but have not yet been registered for quite long enough. Stick around a couple more days and you'll be able to edit these pages fine :) sonia 06:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :)

The Teamwork Barnstar
For helping me clear part of the AfC backlog. :) Thanks very much! Regards and happy editing, —James (TalkContribs)7:19pm 09:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

P.S. IE won't load Gmail >.> —James (TalkContribs)7:19pm 09:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Left Docoed a message, btw, at User talk:Docoed; chime in if you like. I'll keep reviewing. Hopefully you can get an upgrade soon :/ sonia 09:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok then, I'll look at more AfCs too :). Yes I hope so too, IE8 is insane... I hope IE9 lives up to its reviews :P —James (TalkContribs)7:44pm 09:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

:)

After what happened on IRC and a few very stressful days, [2] :) Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T/S 03:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Bib

Do you have sources for "bib"? I respectfully ask because when I go to the catalogs of the manufacturers of "bib" and "competition number", they emphasize the difference between the bib which is has a hole for the neck and the number which is a square with four tiny holes for safety pins. Bibs are used for skiing, rodeo, and a few other sports. Disposable bibs are also given to customers at seafood restaurant to protect clothes. The official IFNA Rules 1.4.2 call them "Playing Initials." Many thanks! Racepacket (talk) 09:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Will look. sonia 11:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk pages

Why are pictures from other pages of wikipedia not allowed on talk pages? Hipeople1231 (talk) 10:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

If they are fair use images, they may only be used for a specific purpose in compliance with policy, on specific articles. sonia 11:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

3-D Dodecahedron Flat-fold Wikipedia Logo Handout

Hi,

I apologize for taking so long to respond to your post on my talk page. I'm a MSU-Bozeman (Montana) Campus Ambassador and these have been the last two weeks of classes for Spring 2011, so I’ve been a bit busier than normal (I also work on campus in the library). Thanks for your patience.

I posted a reply to another graphic artist’s question about my dodecahedron request on Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop.

My request was if someone could create a totally new graphic from my idea-sketch in that's in the .pdf file.

I’m very much a newbie wikipedian, so again, thanks for you patience and help. McMormor (talk) 17:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure my graphic skills are remotely up to scratch for that, then, sorry. sonia 11:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 2 May 2011

Okay, I'm here again to bother you (again and again... sorry). Things seem to go much better at MOTD, right now. THANK YOU!!!
The reason why I'm writing you is the following: next Sunday (8th of May) is Mother's Day. I know that it is celebrated on different days around the world, but I'd love if we could (and are able to) make our "very-little" contribution in honour of all the mothers in the world. For the upcoming 8th of May (Sunday) there is already a motto in schedule, but I think that we can move the motto approved for that day to another date and to put one about mothers in place of it. Here is my nomination.
Thank you in advance and all the best! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 12:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

MOTD Barnstar for helping to keep our project "alive"

The MOTD Barnstar
I award the MOTD Barnstar to Sonia for helping to keep our project "alive" during this difficult time. Without you and your so precious help and contributions, we all probably would have seen the end of this project. A BIG THANK YOU!!! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 19:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)


A brief note, please, read it carefully, especially the last part in bold: The last time we (our project) gave awards to our (its) members on last Summer, then the number of new nominations and reviews of the existing nominations has been diminishing. The end result was the "April crisis" with no mottos for about an entire week. On the contrary, I hope this award will help to maintain our level high or, at least, appropriate to its needs, the needs of our project. I think that around 10 minutes a week to "devote" to the project, when it is possible of course, should be more than enough to achieve the desired result.
Of course, I gave you this award personally, in a personal way and not in the name of the project. This is just a way to say a BIG thank you, so, refrain from returning the award to me or I would be overwhelmed by stars and banners and it is not my intention to "profit" on this, really! Please, do NOT return the award! And, there is no need to thank me, it was my pleasure.
Thanks again (I think I can speak for all the contributors to MOTD) and all the very best!!! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 19:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd really rather not receive more awards from MOTD (or messages this frequently for that matter); I do appreciate the project but this is getting a bit... much. sonia 11:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Spam Reverting

My, you were busy here weren't you! Was that Google 'spamming' Wikipædia? :o - 220.101 talk\Contribs 18:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't think so :p My guess is an overenthusiastic unaffiliated spammer, or perhaps a troll. Google is a tad less silly :) sonia 21:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Adminship

Thank you for the spam reversion... and I wonder at the same time... why are you not an admin? You seem excellently suited to the task. Shadowjams (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

No probs. Re adminship.. I'd find the bit useful, it's true, but I don't think I have enough time to commit to Wikipedia. sonia 09:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Any amount of time you commit to Wikipedia may be comitted more useful with the bit and any good admin action you can perform will make this a better place, even if the actions are few. You should reconsider it under this point of view. Regards SoWhy 20:27, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Replied via IRC, for the record. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Rape navbox

Hey, I saw your RfC for the creation of a rape navbox. I think it's a good idea; however, I have a couple of suggestions. Namely:

  1. I'm not sure "raptio" belongs; it's rendered as "rape" in English, but aside from that linguistic oddity, there's nothing about it that makes it more suitable for the navbox than the general Forced marriage or Bride kidnapping articles. Which certainly can lead to rape, particularly as many of the cultures or jurisdictions in question don't/didn't recognize the right of a wife to refuse consent, but there are more than enough articles to populate a navbox while keeping the focus narrow.
  2. I feel as though "Sociological theories" and "Background/related" could be merged/grouped better. How's this:
  1. Effects and aftermath of rape, Rape trauma syndrome
  2. Anti-Rape Movement, Rape crisis center, and perhaps (?) Anti-rape device
  3. Rape pornography, Rape and revenge films, Rape fantasy
  4. Rape statistics, Rape by gender
  5. Sociobiological theories of rape, Motivation for rape, Rape culture, History of rape
There are probably other articles I'm not aware of that could also be added.
  1. Sociobiological theories of rape also appears to be functioning as a header for the other things in that row, but that doesn't reflect its actual relationship to those articles, so it probably shouldn't be used that way.

Hope this is helpful, Roscelese (talkcontribs) 08:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi! You're right; raptio doesn't really belong. I've removed it, and moved sociobiological theories out while doing a bit of tweaking. I'd rather there not be more than four rows, though, as this seems to me to be a bit lengthy for a navbox otherwise. But please do feel free to edit the navbox! You probably know better than I do what you're doing, and I certainly have no objection to it being edited while in my userspace. Apologies for the late reply. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

AFC unref'd

So, I've been posting the 'please add refs' thing on the talk of users making new AFC's with no refs at all, and logging them in User:Chzz/afc unreferenced log. I'm doing this (semi) manually, for now; and think it's important to check them over, and see if it definitely 'works', sort of thing. And deal with any concerns.

It'd help a lot if you have any time to look at User:Chzz/afc unreferenced log and could check some, and add notes about what, if anything, happens (inline, indented) such as if it was declined/not notable, or if the user added refs, or whatever. You'll see I've added such comments on a few, but it takes time; hence asking you & OlEnglish for a bit of help, checking some.

Ta.  Chzz  ►  18:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Discussed elsewhere. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

CIR

thanks; I'm duly applying a trout to my forehead. sonia 10:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Enjoy! SilkTork *Tea time 16:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Guidance Barnstar

The Guidance Barnstar
Thanks for welcoming me, making yourself available, answering my questions, and being an interesting conversationalist! GreenPine (talk) 07:56, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! I hope to see you around lots in the future. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Zzz

*yawns* Me too! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 09:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Terminal insomnia is a pain sometimes. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Please take the Wikipedia Ambassador Program survey

Hi Ambassador,

We are at a pivotal point in the development of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program. Your feedback will help shape the program and role of Ambassadors in the future. Please take this 10 minute survey to help inform and improve the Wikipedia Ambassadors.

WMF will de-identify results and make them available to you. According to KwikSurveys' privacy policy: "Data and email addresses will not be sold, rented, leased or disclosed to 3rd parties." This link takes you to the online survey: http://kwiksurveys.com?u=WPAmbassador_talk

Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments, Thank You!

Amy Roth (Research Analyst, Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 20:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Done so, thanks. sonia 06:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

A discussion about improving the help documentation inspired an idea--Wikipedia tutorials would be best if they were interactive and immersive. The thought of a learning-teaching game came up, one based on a real interface with realistic 'missions'. Would you be interested in providing some feedback or helping work on it? The idea is just getting started and any assistance with the help/policy side, the experienced-editor side, or the coding/game-making side would be great. Cheers, Ocaasi c 00:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Responses moved to User talk:Ocaasi/The Wikipedia Game (with Sonia's permission) to consolidate discussion

Etherback

You have messages: [3]. Cheers, Ocaasi c 02:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Noted and (somewhat) replied. sonia 09:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, sonia, for your recent helpful edit to the article I expanded, Skipping Towards Gomorrah. Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Article for you

You might be interested in this article about memories. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304520804576341482658082052.html Pine (GreenPine) t 18:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied elsewhere. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheers

Splendid, job. User:Ocaasi c 04:29, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied elsewhere. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Idea

Create a mini-project to bring the articles of Neda, Mohamed Bouazizi, Khaled Said, and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb up to GA/FA status. Possibly expand to include others whose deaths became symbols of war and peace (i.e. Pat Tillman). Would you like to work on something like this? Ocaasi t | c 21:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Query re: HOP Card at DYK

Care to hop on over to T:DYK for details? Just flag me down here or at my talk when you've responded. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 00:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Done. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Typeback

Ocaasi t | c 04:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Noted. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Sir Robert Te Kotahitanga-a-Koroki Mahuta (KNZM)

Though the page is (currently) actually called Robert Mahuta. (I can see the need for a few re-directs there!) This new page may be of interest to you. I have updated it a bit and added some in-line cites. - 220.101 talk\Contribs 03:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Re above, maybe you can have a chat with NZ Author (talk · contribs)? They have had at least 3 of 4 articles they created in about 14 months deleted, though they don't edit all that much. The idea of notability and properly citing sources seems to be eluding them. I've dropped a few templates about sourcing and edit summaries, but haven't 'talked' directly with them. Watcha think? - 220.101 talk\Contribs 10:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. It'd be a good idea to do so, but I'm not sure how much help I'd be given I can't see deleted revs! Will see what I can do when health permits. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Renames

My rename from GreenPine to Pine is underway, but I'm having a lot of headaches. :( I recommend discouraging people from changing their names. It's waaaaaaaay too much work. I'm thinking of giving up on Pine/GreenPine and starting with a fresh account. GreenPine (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Was unable to reply to this, but GreenPine and I have talked since. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Mockup image checklist

Hey, this is what I put together for Steven Zhang. He's got 9 more to do, but they're missing your sophie and graphical charm. Let me know if you need anything, graphical that is. Ocaasi t | c 23:42, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You know my situation, but will do my best. sonia 00:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and I wish for a speedy recovery. the fountain of youth, now with a childproof lid Ocaasi t | c 01:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for HOP card

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2011 (UTC)