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Re: Draft:Just Shapes & Beats

Of interest: WP:NOTNEWS. Gryllida (talk) 05:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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List of Nintendo 3DS Games

I recently was adding the same information.m about the game, plus some others I'm currently focusing on. Could you wait till I'm finished? Zacharyalejandro (talk) 15:34, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Oh and please don't forget we use dtba when a release is not set in stone yet, not dts. And we use mdy format, and if the developer is the same for publisher, we only link the developer. Thank you! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 16:01, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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Are you kidding me

I would like to mention about your edit over on Switch list. I've had it with this. If you don't go research at Nintendo Japan's site over on the release tab. In point blank letters, it states that those two games are being released in Japan. Sniper Elite V2 Remastered is being released by the same publisher in Japan. Source: https://ec.nintendo.com/JP/ja/titles/70010000022682 and Sniper Elite III is being released in December by Game Soure Entertainment as shown here: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/schedule/#switch

Zacharyalejandro (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

The Japanese release date for Sniper Elite III was however not sourced in its entry on the List of Nintendo Switch games (M-Z) page, nor was I able to find it on the linked Sniper Elite III page, therefore I removed the entry. If there was a source specified or it was stated on the Sniper Elite III page, then I probably missed it and in that case feel free to revert my edit. I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to with Sniper Elite V2. I've looked through the history of the List of Nintendo Switch games (M-Z) page and I couldn't find anything where I changed anything related to that. Stefvanschie (talk) 10:21, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

The point I'm trying to get at is we do not list Japanese dates in the infoboxes because this is an English Wikipedia, and that *insert developer* is not Japanese. Which I'm trying to change this to include Japanese dates in there to make more sense. It should not solely rely heavily on developers on said games if said games get released in Japan if not by the same publisher. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 02:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro

I agree that we should list Japanese release dates for games in the infobox of that game. In my opinion, just because this is an English Wikipedia does not mean that information about non-English territory isn't useful for English readers. WP:VG/DATE doesn't agree with this sadly, so we should probably need to get consensus about a potential change for this. Stefvanschie (talk) 10:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, about references, we specifically have a discussion about this topic. And for blue-linked articles, we do not add references for those as they can (and will, regardless) be added in the article's page itself. I assume you should be in the know about this as well. But I strongly believe that you seemingly have refused to believe in such thing, are it not? So please, before I go any further, I suggest taking a peak at the talk page. Thank you. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 16:56, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I've been adding them to the list itself, but if you want I can add them to the article itself as well if that's preferable. Stefvanschie (talk) 09:46, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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About reliable sources on Smite (video game)

With the game's website not listing this info in any written form (the game's devs are not great at documenting this type of things), the official wiki is literally the only closest thing to it. I'm not even sure what you seem to think needs a source anyhow. Do you doubt the game has that many characters? Or that there's no way there are african gods in it? (not to mention one of the source you restored are of a wiki site that's dead)--Malvodion (talk) 17:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

The smite wiki is a Wikipedia like site and after quickly glancing over it, it seems like anyone can edit pages, which would make it unreliable, since there is no editorial oversight. We should aim for better sources, such as IGN, GameSpot, Eurogamer, etc. (WP:VG/S). Even if everything that is stated is accurate, there still should be proper sources for these statements, so these can be verified. Less content, but everything being properly sourced is better than a lot of content, with poor sources. Stefvanschie (talk) 12:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I can assure you, anything that would be categorized as "main" and important content on that wiki is accurate and has been double checked. I've been overseeing that site for years, making sure it only includes accurate, and neutral content, and making sure its all consistent. This might sound bad but: there legitimately isn't a better source for accurate info on that game, if I do say so myself. The only content that would not be 100% verified would be dialog transcriptions (there is dozens of hours worth of voice work in that game, there's probably several typos somewhere), but that is completely irrelevant to the wikipedia article.

By the way, you never said Why you think such a strict source would be needed for something that's honestly just common knowledge (the amount of characters, and what these characters are based off.), and didn't address the fact the article is still linking to a fan wiki that shut down years ago. It's also very unreasonable to ask for things like news articles on common knowledge, you should know no one would write anything on something so basic (like seriously, who would write a news article about how many characters there are in X game? and even if they did, that source would instantly become outdated as soon as another character was added). A single click on the Gods page for that wiki and you'd get more than enough proof than, even if hard to believe, there really are over 100 characters (or you think someone would create all that artwork just to fool people? Maybe the front page will make a bigger impact on you?). I looked at the editorial oversite page and the wiki seems to meet those requirements too.--Malvodion (talk) 19:55, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I applaud the effort you put in on the Smite wiki to ensure correctness of its content, I really do, however despite of that, that doesn't make the site reliable. I can edit the content of pages on that wiki, including incorrect information if I'd wanted to; how would I be sure that its current content is correct; how would I be sure that the efforts you made on that wiki are actually correct (don't take this as me doubting your efforts, I don't, but we can't verify this). All such issues arise when using such a source. For these reasons, Wikipedia, as an example, is also not a reliable source, even though thousands of people try to ensure pages here contain correct information. While you may find the amount of characters and their origin common knowledge, I don't agree with that. I myself, as someone who has never played Smite, would have no idea about the amount of characters and their origins and I think many others who have never played the game don't know this either. The article indeed still links to a fan wiki that is no longer available; since this is a wiki it's almost certainly unreliable, so all those sources should be replaced by one which is reliable. If, for some reason, that source is reliable, such sources may be replaced by archived versions of when they were still available, by for example usage of a site such as web.archive.org. I agree that it's unlikely that someone writes an article specifically for the amount of characters in the game, yet this doesn't mean that such counts couldn't exist. For example, a reliable source that reviews the game and says something like "the game features a wealthy amount of content, containing over 100 characters", can be used as a source and state on the Smite page that "the game contains over a 100 characters". Or maybe an article about an update or DLC for the game (I don't know how new characters are distributed) with an article stating something like "a new update for Smite which released yesterday adds five new characters, bringing the total up to 107 characters", could be used as a reference for there being "107 characters". Such articles are not necessarily uncommon, especially if it's concerning a popular game. While the wiki page you mentioned definitely contains a vast amount of images for Gods, we cannot rule out the possibility that these are fake. There are definitely people who go out of their way to create fake artwork for characters that are not real; perhaps this doesn't happen (as often) with this game, but it's certainly happened with other games. Or perhaps the intention wasn't necessarily to fool people, but was just fan art for the game (art work for characters that people would like to see included in the game) and was accidentally passed of as real. Besides that, for the amount of characters we would still have to rely on the wiki (linking to each individual God and then counting them isn't good enough), which, like I stated above, is not reliable.

Reverting edits without actually reading what you're reverting is something to be ashamed of (and before you do an arsepull and say that the official website isn't good enough either: this is exactly how it's done pages such as League of Legends. If you got a problem with that source too then you better go and tag all those pages with the same thing.)

Also: if you are trying too hard to keep too many pages under control to the point you are not even looking at them before making decisions, I'd suggest you to take a bit of a break. Trust me on that.--Malvodion (talk) 02:28, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

If content I reverted was incorrect, please do revert it again (please also note why it was incorrect though). I can assure you that I check changes made to a page before making a decision on whether they should be reverted (or any other action for that matter), though. Secondary sources are generally preferred over primary sources, but if those aren't available a primary will do. Stefvanschie (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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Once again

I want you to know that I already have the source available for Beyond the Steel Sky, so I believe that your doing things without reviewing your edit before posting. Please review your changes first. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 18:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Just a friendly reminder to have a look at Nintendo's sites for information. I have this under control. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 05:42, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

For which game exactly? I usually search for sources if they appear to be unsourced, so if I removed something, it's likely that I didn't manage to find anything. Stefvanschie (talk) 08:27, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Help request

I want to ask a favor if you could help me fix dates and references in the right order, as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games&diff=prev&oldid=933559128

Thank you! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 19:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, I'll keep an eye out for them and fix them when I spot them. Stefvanschie (talk) 15:27, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know if you do this, but for releases and references, I go by Nintendo's websites, sometimes Gematsu.com and NintendoLife.com for upcoming releases. The Definitive Edition of Adventures of Elena Temple has an updated release date then the original game, I include the most recent release. Of course, we can leave the words 'Definitive Edition', Complete Edition, and the like, out because games like those are the original versions with more content. I just thought I'd let you be aware. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 22:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I usually just use whatever I find first. From my experience Nintendo, Nintendo Life and Nintendo World Report are generally pretty good, GameStop sometimes as well, but only if the Nintendo Switch is the only platform the game is on, since it only states the first release date. I'm kinda assuming that those websites list the most updated release date, though, but if I notice that two sites state different release dates, I'll go with the latest one as well. However, I feel like we should still list stuff like "Complete Edition" and "Definitive Edition" in the names of the games, though. Otherwise it might be confusing for readers whether the original was ported to the Nintendo Switch (which would then likely not be a "Definitive Editon" or "Complete Edition") or whether a remaster/enhancement of the game was put on the Nintendo Switch (which could then be a "Definitive Edition" or "Complete Edition"). Stefvanschie (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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Release dates

May I ask what's the meaning of this edit? One more thing, this is an English Wikipedia so we do not add Japanese dates in the infoboxes. However, I specifically stated a JP Publisher for this stating its release date on the list. What happened there? Any explanation? I know what I'm doing. And also there are not supposed to be sources in these lists for size limitations as we have discussed PLENTY of times before, and probably will continue to, because obviously people can't follow rules. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 01:56, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

The release date you specified for the Japanese release of FAR: Lone Sails was not stated on the wikipage, so WP:V was not met. I'm aware of the policy regarding release dates in infoboxes, but that doesn't mean a Japanese release date cannot be stated anywhere on the article at all. FAR: Lone Sails did not mention a Japanese release date anywhere, however. Stefvanschie (talk) 08:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Also, whatever you are doing on the various pages, please look at the references very, very carefully. The source states that Chained Echoes will launch "for PlayStation 4, Switch, and PC via Steam in late 2021." Let me handle these pages, before more problems occur. Late/Winter is classified as Q4. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 04:27, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Could you please link me to the talk page/wikiproject page which states that Late/Winter has been classified as Q4? I myself haven't seen this stated anywhere, hence why I changed it. Stefvanschie (talk) 08:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

I actually don't think I can find a wikiproject that has this discussion, to be honest. Actually I just think we should just list it with a vague 2020 date, but keep the source intact. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 02:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I think keeping the source that states Winter 2020, Late 2020, etc. is fine, as long as we just keep it as 2020 in the list itself. Stefvanschie (talk) 19:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I've told you this many freaking times to stop changing the North American release dates of games that have been referenced. What don't you understand? Why does seemingly have to be deleted or changed? Whatever you're doing, I suggest you stop. I've got references to prove this! https://www.nintendolife.com/games/switch-eshop/brief_battles/news and https://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide/#filter/:q=&indexName=noa_aem_game_en_us_release_des (scroll through to see more games listed) Zacharyalejandro (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Could you link the change(s) I made that you're talking about? Stefvanschie (talk) 12:14, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

What is the meaning of this and this? What is the deal with you on the changes? Zacharyalejandro (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I changed the source for some titles because the video didn't state that they were coming to Nintendo Switch. The initial intro of the video says "coming to consoles" with no further elaboration on as to which consoles these are. On the game segment for "Angels with Scaly Wings" no platforms are indicated either. For the segment of "Jisei: The First Case HD" they state "coming to consoles", but again no elaboration on whether this includes Nintendo Switch. The outro of the video, didn't state anything regarding the platforms for these games either. The description only states "your favorite console", however that also gives no more info since "favorite" is subjective. Because of this, I have changed the source for these games to one which does state that these games are coming to Nintendo Switch. Stefvanschie (talk) 18:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Current consoles as stated in the video of Ratalaika Games presentation, states as either "Exclusively first on Nintendo Switch" or have the actual Nintendo Switch logo beside the other platform logos. Also, they have these listed on Nintendo's sites, which instead of listing the various pages, we keep it all under one reference to combat page size consistency, which you seemingly cannot understand. And this is how I'm getting blocked numerous times for this. I'm just going to leave at this to not risk getting blocked further. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 17:02, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Some games listed in the video indeed have platform logos accompanying them, but the games I changed - Angels with Scaly Wings and Jisei: The First Case HD - do not have such platform logos. I can't seem to find them stating "exclusively first on Nintendo Switch" for those games either (if you have some kind of timestamp for that, that'd be great). I understand that page size is an issue and keeping them under one reference helps, but I don't think we should sacrifice verifiability any more for that. As a reader, I currently wouldn't be able to tell if those games indeed are coming to Switch, since the reference provided (the video) doesn't state that. To my knowledge you also weren't blocked because of this, but because of removing words like "The" from the video game names in the list against consensus like ferret stated on Talk:List of Nintendo Switch games (A–L).

I think I found a source stating are coming to current consoles. https://www.gematsu.com/2020/03/ratalaika-games-announces-seven-indie-visual-novel-ports-coming-to-ps4-xbox-one-and-switch-in-2020 Zacharyalejandro (talk) 17:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro

Yeah, that source looks good to me. Stefvanschie (talk) 08:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Please read what you are doing with that page. Go to the view history and carefully review my changes first hand and I don't know why you can't research and put in the information available for Japanese releases from Nintendo.co.jp, and Nintendo.co.uk

I have checked your changes, like I do with all changes that I revert. I have also looked for sources that would cover what you stated, but I was unable to find them, hence why I changed them. Stefvanschie (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Don't know why this is hard for anyone to do. I've done everything I can to better serve our readers, however admins need to understand that Wikipedia is indeed based on false and misinformation on everything. I know for a fact what I'm saying is indeed going to get me blocked, possibly indefinitely this time, and I don't want that to happen. I'm trying my hardest to keep everything up-to-date, but my edits always get changed, I get that. But if anyone changes them. They need to have someone, anybody, add references to reflect on the changes. Is this the hardest part to understand for everyone? I'm going to take another 2 week break from this. Because I need it. Thank you for reading. I'm sorry if this also seems a bit on the harsh side, but this needed to be said. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 04:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro

You precisely demonstrate why verifiability is important. If all content that is added to each page is completely verifiable, then any reader can make sure for themselves that what is stated is indeed correct. If good sources are used on pages then Wikipedia will not be based on misinformation, but on actual proper sources. Your efforts on the list of Nintendo Switch games page are very much appreciated, as well as your edits on the other pages, but if I - or someone else for that matter - can't find a source which states what you have said, then editors can't be certain that this is true, nor can the readers of the page. Stefvanschie (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Also over on Baldo, the Nintendo Europe site states Summer 2020, which is classified as Q3. Please don't act like you know everything, because everyone does not, especially when it comes to Wikipedia. There are references that states these for a reason. Please respect my edits, thank you. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 18:15, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Are you talking about my edit from about a month ago? We've had this same discussion before about classifying winter as Q4; when I asked you if there was any discussion with the conclusion that these seasons should be classified as such, you said that you couldn't find one and that we should probably not state that. I don't see how this would be any different for summer, unless such a discussion has been had now (if so, please let me know). Summer isn't necessarily Q3, since depending on the region and culture summer starts at a different moment in time, therefore I don't think we should simply assume that the game releases in Q3. Stefvanschie (talk) 12:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

First answer is yes. Secondly, if this is a common issue for you, why don't we just list everything that classifies as "coming this summer or winter" to a generic and vague 2020 until an actual release date is announced and close this discussion? Because we are obviously going nowhere with this. Winter/Holiday/Late is Q4 according to which articles state. If they pose and state and quote as Q3 2020, then we list it as such. For the future, I'm putting everything as 2020 or 2021, etc. and leaving it at that. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 04:31, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. Of course if they actually specify Q3, Q4, etc. directly then adding that isn't an issue. Stefvanschie (talk) 11:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Revert of my edit in List of best-selling video games.

I wanted to revert the edit myself, because the note a requires the use of the original developer and publisher. You have reverted the edit because Gamepedia is an unreliable source, I would argue that Gamepedia, in this case would be reliable source, as it is the official Minecraft wiki, and is endorsed by Mojang. Saying that the official wiki for a game is an unreliable source would be like saying Wikipedia is also an unreliable source.Circl.lastname (talk) 14:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an unreliable source as per WP:CIRC "Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered reliable" and per WP:VG/S. The Minecraft wiki is also not endorsed by Mojang as per the footnote: "This site is a part of Fandom, Inc. and is not affiliated with the game publisher." Besides that, the Minecraft Wiki is also open for everyone to contribute similar to Wikipedia, without any kind of editorial oversight, which makes it unreliable as per WP:SPS "That is why self-published material such as (...) open wikis (...) are largely not acceptable as sources." WP:VG/S also lists Wikia, the former name of Fandom as unreliable. Stefvanschie (talk) 11:38, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

i dont like how you treated my sections

you said my sections didnt need to be added and I think you were very wrong. Please do not say this again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Me6481 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Is this regarding the changing you made to the infobox image caption on Pokémon Sword and Shield? Like I stated in my edit summary, this much detail isn't needed for an image caption, especially not for one in the infobox that doesn't necessarily add much to the page. Just some basic overview of what the image is about is enough. Stefvanschie (talk) 08:45, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN

Hi. Just wondering whether you have actually read WP:NOTBROKEN. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Asdivine Kamura

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:37, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Maneater (video game)

Hello, Stefvanschie. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Maneater".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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