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Welcome!

Hello, Steve3849, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Help Me

Hi I'm new to wikipedia editing. Certainly I don't want to be a bother. A page I made - [[The Coalition of the Willing (band)]] - has been marked for speedy deletion. An administrator did respond once to my {{hang on}} though I have a bit more to say and I'm not sure if he or she was going to return to the "talk" page again located at: Talk:The Coalition of the Willing (band)

Is there a way to get such a discourse in a "speedy deletion" situation before the deletion is actually made?

My bit more on the "talk" page follows the words second reply.

Steve3849 09:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

First the admin that responded may not be the admin that eventually decides to delete the article so you will always want to discuss your reasons on the articles talk page. Second, if you feel that speaking directly to the admin that responded to the AFD (Article for Deletion) would help then you can always contact that person on their talk page by clicking on their name in the message signature and then clicking on discussion at the top of the page and leaving a new message. You may also want to read Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion to get a better understanding as to why the article was nominated for deletion in the first place.Cheers — WilsBadKarma ^(Talk) 10:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Critters Buggin

Thanks for fleshing out the Critters Buggin article! -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for saving it last year! They're all about music.Steve3849 05:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Re the redirects

Hi Steve. You went about deleting the redirects the right way, and I have done so. Helpme requests are normally placed on your talk page :-) -- zzuuzz^(talk) 19:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Apologies

My apologies for the mistaken edit. But please realize that ANY edit made non-logged in will simply be seen askew no matter what.

As for this comment you made in your note to me: "I'm thinking your work is secondary to your Bot (or copy/pasted) warnings as your warning to me quoted above was to "please... not add" info." Please do not make comments on my job or work or work I do on Wiki during the time I have to kill. It's a clear personal comment that flies in the face of WP:CIV.

Best of wishes editing. --BaseballDetective 04:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Keep on jazzing! --05:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

New Article About Musician Linked by The "Wars" Bot

User:AlexNewArtBot is a bot that intended to improve communication within Wikipedians. It reads the new articles and sees if they match some rules. If the rules are matched the bot puts the article into a relevant list e.g. User:AlexNewArtBot/LiteratureSearchResult. The people who contribute to the rules might be interested why such a such new article was or was not put to the list. That is why the bot keeps "logs" showing work of its mind. In particular it considered [[James Singleton (musician)]] to be included in a number of lists and did not included into any. It was probably a right decision.

As you could notice we do not have any music-related feeds generated by the bot yet. I think it should be fixed at some times. If people interesting in rap/classic/jazz whatever would have an access to the list of the new articles related to their subject then there will be good chances of a peer review catching incorrect facts, libels, vanity etc. If you are interested in producing such rules, you are welcome.

Obviously then I was talking about the pathetic lists of "bad" (possible vanity or attack pages) and "good" (candidates for WP:DYK) articles I was talking about the lists not the articles itself. The bot is stupid and does not evaluate the articles it would put a nicely formatted crap into the "good articles" list and an article about a rapper having obscenities (because they were the titles of the songs) into the bad list. I did not expected misunderstanding and not sure how to fix it. Alex Bakharev 23:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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MySpace links for musicians

Hi. In the past when I've added Myspace links they were removed. I didn't know about the position concerning musician pages. The external links page could probably use some clarification about when it is appropriate to link to Myspace pages. Thanks for pointing this out.-5- 19:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Tuxedo bands etc

Hi. Thanks for your edits to Tuxedo Brass Band. However, I fear you've introduced some confusion between the Tuxedo Brass Band and the Tuxedo Jazz Band, seperate groups with a related but not identical history. I also see you removed a link to the Young Tuxedo Brass Band with the claim "removed dead link" (!) Wikipedia is an incomplete project in the process of growing. Links to topics of articles which we need but have not yet been created are far from "dead". Properly used, they are valuable indicators of points where Wikipedia needs expansion. See Wikipedia:Red link and Wikipedia:Most wanted articles for more on that subject. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 02:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, about removing the wiki link; I agree, that wasn't necessary. Yet, the specific names for the bands are a potential source of confusion with, or without my input. The AllMusic.com Bio for Bob French, as do Downbeat and Bob French himself, state his "Original Tuxedo Jazz Band" was started in 1910 by Oscar "Papa" Celestin and passed to him through a named and timed lineage. Did Oscar Celestin start two distinct bands in 1910? If this is so, my apologies for the error. - Steve3849 ^talk 03:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is an example of how the complex naming story is side stepped at AllAboutJazz Bio for Armstrong; they are referred to as simply "Papa Celestin's Tuxedo Band." It appears to me putting puzzle pieces together that in the 1910's it was "Brass," then there was a separate band "Jazz" in the 20's. Yet, sometime later, probably during the 50's, or 60's, or perhaps during the current leader's stent the "Original Brass" band changed its name to "Original Jazz" but not leadership. The lineage according to these sources I've mentioned is unbroken, but the name is the same as the separate split band which it is not. I suppose these entries would be appropriate for the discussion page of the Tuxedo page. - Steve3849 ^talk 04:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. For promotional purposes, there might be a tendancy to present a band as having as old an unbroken a linage as possible. No, the Brass band did not change its name to Jazz band. (The New Orleans tradition of related but seperate sit down and parading bands is something I guess needs to be explained in a New Orleans music article eventually.) Actually, Celestin's dance band (at first as "Tuxedo Orchestra" I believe, before the term "jazz" came into common use in polite society) may predate the brass band a bit, and while there were some such bumps as with the split between Celestin and Bebe Rigley in the '20s and I think the band may have been inactive for a while for part of the Depression and World War II, there is indeed a long tradition of passing name and leadership to Bob French's current band. However the Tuxedo Brass band/ Young Tuxedo is a different issue, certainly split from the jazz band by the time Papa French took over the jazz band, possibly earlier. I'm pretty sure this is well enough doccumented to straighten out (though I suspect I'll find more in dead tree than on line). I don't have time to research it now, but unless lots of unexpeced work comes up I should be able to make at least a decent start on it next month (feel free to remind me if I don't!) Cheers, -- Infrogmation 12:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, blurring the distinction between the Brass Band and the Jazz Band allows the mention of the name of Louis Armstrong. 'Nuf said? -- Infrogmation 12:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey

You do good work here. 16:58, 21 June 2007 Grapeindie

Thank you - Steve3849 ^talk 17:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)