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Your editing tactics

I must admit, I find your prowess with citing Wikipedia policy/rules quite incredible. However, your tactics leave quite a lot to be desired. Deleting entire contributions from others who aren't as knowledgeable about Wikipedia policy, while citing policy, without constructive criticism, is combative and against the spirit of the fifth and fourth pillars of Wikipedia (WP:FIVE). Latching onto my personal point of view (which I disclosed up front in good faith) while continuously bringing up every misstep on my part, shows bad faith in constructively building consensus on what should be on the page and how it should be presented WP:CONS. Cursing at me and telling me to go away on IRC was very much against the principle of welcoming others to wikipedia WP:NICE. It almost looked as if you were gaming the system to subvert the process of building Wikipedia through teamwork WP:GAME.

So if there is a principle that if a rule prevents one from improving wikipedia, we should ignore it WP:IAR, why would you set yourself up as the supreme dictator of a page, citing rigid application of policy for the exclusion of material, while there are mechanisms to improve the quantity as well as the quality of the material?

Basically, I think what you've been doing is policy shopping. WP:SHOP (The example given seems awfully familiar...) In the end, you finally reverted to the I Don't Like It policy. WP:IDL

As a lay-editor, I have many contributions to Wikipedia, but I usually am in pursuit of other interests, so I don't keep really fresh on Wikipedia policy. However, I sometimes catch typos, vandalism, or other problems on pages as I use Wikipedia. Further, I try to be constructive when I think something encyclopedic should be added to it. You nearly soured me on Wikipedia, costing the project the benefit of my contributions. I'd suggest you read Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People before you go off on your next wikipedian smackdown. And work on refuting the central point or helping the other guy make his, instead of quibbling over policy.Aaronchall (talk) 09:59, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more!!--Brody59 (talk) 06:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 F1 season

I've place this article under PC1 protection. Mjroots (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Demanding References

Youself and Falcadore keep demanding "references", yet a lot of this page has no references when it was originally written, so the initial writer (by the look of it falcafore anyway)never proved a lot of what they originally wrote. You removed the statement that David John has had his bankruptcy annulled, as you are unable to post links to the actual page at the insolvency service, you will have to look it up, I suggest you prove he is bankrupt, because by deleting my revision you are stating that he is still bankrupt, which is infact incorrect, he has been granted an annullment, you have now made a statement that is factual incorrect. I note that my statements to yourself and falcadore declaring that I actually have the knowledge because of my position (rather than taking things from internet forums and rumour) have been deleted, I assume this is to remove the possibility that anyone might question the validity of yours or falcadores knowlegdge. Falcadore made a statement in the MW Motorsport page that MW Motorsport are running Matthew Hamilton in a TKR sponsored car, he did not reference this, in fact if you look at MW motorsports website they DO NOT list Matthew as one of there drivers. I suggest you take a long hard look at what is really going on before you have a go at me again.

[User:porsche911guy] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porsche911guy (talk • contribs) 03:10, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


I was a director of the company! Falcadore even updated the page to state I was last year! I had in my message pointed this out and also mentioned that I am still contracted to the comapany as an advisor! This was deleted by someone. You can't post a link to the actual page at the insolvency service that shows it because it won't allow you. The media in NZ has not reported the story of his annullment because to quote Shaun Summerfield of TV3, "it's not Newsworthy". David John is NOT bankrupt, you have been advised he is not and you keep removing the statement that he is not, I will happily send you a screen dump from the insolvency service to satisfy you if you want to supply an email address (although the time you took writing to me you could have looked it up and verified it)If we are saying that wikipedia needs to be verified solely through the media then we have a problem, particuarly when it comes to NZ motorsport —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porsche911guy (talk • contribs) 23:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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stop!

may you please stop referencing that i am abusing afd? why? --ChckMeOwt (talk) 09:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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Super GT

I simply reverted the edit that an IP user with a history of vandalism made. I don't know much about GT, but since the user deleted a whole section I assumed it was part of his vandalism. Sorry about that.  CET   †  10:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Publicity

Thank you for pointing out that the initials "PR" stand for "Peer Review" in Wikipedia. In the world I inhabit, they stand for "Public Relations", most commonly. I was using it wrong. This is the very first I have heard of it since I don't watch Afds. I used it often outside of spam nominations and will now not use it again. Student7 (talk) 11:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

North Korean invasion

Hey 359,

I saw you deleted an edit to the 2010 Formula One season page about the Korean Grand Prix being put off because of an invasion by the North as you could not see the reference. The reference itself does actually contain a direct quote from Bernie Ecclestone saying that the only thing that can stop the race is an invasion, even though the article is primarily about Austin. The quote came at the end of the article. That said, I can see why you deleted it on the grounds of there being a dozen other reasons why it might be called off. I just thought you might be interested to know - it wasn't an attempt to pass off an illegitimate edit with an irrelevant source. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

2010 ALMS

Hi.

You just deleted my teams and drivers table from the 2010 ALMS season. I don't think that it is unnecessary, because the whole purpose of the chart was to show who had competed for which team in which round. Comments before deletion again? I have started a discussion at the articles talk page. WilliamF1two (talk) 18:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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Marussia Virgin

Hey 359,

I've moved Marussia Virgin up in the teams table on the 2011 Formula One season page. This reference - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9178539.stm - makes it pretty clear that Marussia now own a controlling stake in the team. They're not title sponsors; Virgin are. We list Williams under 'W' for 'Williams', not 'A' for 'AT&T Williams', so I figure we should list Marussia under 'M' insteand of 'V'. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Potential sock?

66.108.146.155 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) on "Like a G6". What do you think? Yves (talk) 04:49, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Citing the same reasons given by the sock, using the same wiki abbreviations, and reverting to the IP's change. The IP also uses full signature. This is really ducky. Yves (talk) 06:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Hmm you're right about, but what about 3RR edit warring? Yves (talk) 07:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. Yves (talk) 08:01, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Recent vandalism on the Peugeot 908 article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.147.229.123

Can this IP be blocked, please? Looking at the "contribution" a.k.a. vandalism attempt, it is exactly the same as the previous attempts at the same page by a user which has been blocked already for not just vandalizing this page, but also for widespread vandalism related to an imaginary "Super GT World Championship". Vikirad (talk) 13:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

G6

There is no such thing as a Gulfstream 6. Gulfstream Aerospace does not make an aircraft with that designation. If you read the article from Future entirely, it even states at much. Gulfstream aircrafts are desinated from 150 to 650. Neovu79 (talk) 03:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

If you can show me an article that has Far East Movement stating such, I will consider this argurment to have been won by you. Neovu79 (talk) 03:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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Audi R18 TDI

I would appreciate your input at the discussion on the talk page of Audi R18 TDI concerning the name. Thanks. Bjmullan (talk) 13:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Luph25

Wondering what to do now. The edittor has finally contacted me on my talk page - to threaten me with a block he cannot actually implement. --Falcadore (talk) 07:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Now he's added profanity to the threats. --Falcadore (talk) 07:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I suggest leaving it to administrators to get to when they get to it. He is already reported, and clearly will not stop until blocked. There is no point in continuing to revert as he will 99% likely be blocked shortly anyway. The359 (Talk) 07:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks I'll do no further then. --Falcadore (talk) 07:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
He's at it again. --Falcadore (talk) 03:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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– Cs-wolves(talk) 16:50, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Regarding your petulant behavior.

I notice you're not an administrator, so you can't block me, nor do you have any power whatsoever to back up your "warning" which was really an insult combined with an assumption of bad faith. It seems that you think you "own" the Like a G6 article, so obviously, I'm not going to edit it or its talk page anymore because I don't want to deal with people like you. I'll be very clear: Leave me alone. I am not taking your bait, nor am I interested in what you think or how you feel. PBF1974 (talk) 20:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk pages

Your recent talk page edit is not only unnecessary and uncivil, it is also unhelpful. Attacking other editors, even if you are in discussion with them or refraining from foul language in your insulting, condescending spiels, will not be tolerated. Anyone who feels sincere offense at any of my edit summaries should, in the immortal words of Michelle Malkin, "grow a pair". With all due seriousness, I can't find a single edit summary of mine that does not describe the reasoning behind said edit (and if you so desperately need to see the edit itself, that's what diffs are for), and the only remotely inflammatory summary - besides a vandal revert - was suggesting that those who have sub-mediocre English abilities find a better, more productive use of their time (such as, perhaps, editing their native tongue's Wikipedia) than drag down the already rather-slipshod quality of the en project. Badger Drink (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC) amended Badger Drink (talk) 18:40, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2011

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Cute

I suppose I should be flattered that my Talk page is of such lasting interest to you. Is "User:The359's Opinions of My Edits, Edit Summary Usage, and Conduct with Editors Who Are Not User:The359; Featuring Occasional Digressions into User:The359's Editorial Opinions Thereof" going to be a weekly feature? Bi-weekly? Maybe a twice-a-week thing? Planning on monetizing it, or is this going to be a non-profit operation? I'm intrigued, and cannot wait to hear more on the matter. I'm sure you know where to find me! Badger Drink (talk) 23:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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WP F1 talk page

Don't remove my comments from talk pages, you know better than that. If you have a problem with something I've said, then address me with it. You didn't even leave an edit summary, what did you think you were doing? Bretonbanquet (talk) 02:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Ugh, I should have known it was a mistake. Sorry for jumping on that so hard, I must have been feeling a bit paranoid last night! Cheers. Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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Recent edit reversions on Le Mans 2011 entry list page

Some of those edits you reverted (those were not my edits, though) may not reference officially confirmed driver announcements, but in certain cases, specifically concerning the Jetalliance Lotus line-ups, they were probably deduced from the drivers of the cars during the Le Mans test weekend, and in general that is a pointer towards what drivers will be driving in what cars. Vikirad (talk) 19:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for letting me know about the edit there. I completely made a mistake. Let the user know that he is not in the wrong. (AROUNDNASCAR (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC))

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The Signpost interview

Marc VDS, Sachsenring

Hey, Matt. Quick query for you, seeing as I never actually saw the race but... is this not how Hennerici/Leinders exited the race on lap one? The spotter guide that I have shows that car 40 has yellow mirrors and although not clear on the video, they seem a lot lighter than the black mirrors of the sister car. Wanted to question first. Cs-wolves(talk) 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't sweat it, man. You've corrected many of my slight mistakes regarding GT1, so we're all entitled to a little faux pas like that. I had forgotten about the media site because I usually use that Blancpain reports hidden within live timing. Besides, that first corner incident was somewhat minor compared to the one in the GT Masters race today. Cs-wolves(talk) 19:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, that's a bummer. I much preferred the streaming last year, rather than it going to Dailymotion this year. Very disappointed in that. How come it has just suddenly stopped after a couple of rounds? A few of the other FIA series could learn from the SRO with the publically-viewable, unlocked media site so many folk can understand why a particular driver exited the race. Cs-wolves(talk) 19:18, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

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Le Mans Serie 2011

The system you use is imprecise: 0 for drivers who failed to score: must be splitted between

0 drivers who finished classified but failed to score
NC drivers not classified
DNS drivers who participated to testing but did not start like the RML drivers in Spa this year

In order to be fully precise the following could be used also

DSQ for disqualified
DNA must be used for drivers who were on the entry list but did not attend
DNE must be for drivers who were not on the entry list

Danilowski (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia page updates

Following a discussion regarding the profile of Simon Dolan, feedback was that there was 'poor sourcing from blogs or self published sourcing' every source has been clarified from a legitmate source/website not associated with the company, has these sources been referenced incorrectly?

Simon dolan is a public figure, known by the media, the daily mail recently did a piece on him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-2005846/Simon-Dolan-hopes-trade-12m-pile-latest-audacious-deal.html so his profile can surely be left up?

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Simon dolan is a public figure, known by the media, the daily mail recently did a piece on him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-2005846/Simon-Dolan-hopes-trade-12m-pile-latest-audacious-deal.html so his profile can surely be left up for public knowledge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LAB1987 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Luph25 is back

FYI - [1] --Falcadore (talk) 12:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

And it appears again as User:TheriusRooney. --Falcadore (talk) 06:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re:FIA GT1 query

I'm struggling to find a cause for it myself. Looking at the media site, there does seem to be a bit of misplacement on the points, notably with Michaël Rossi's points being in two separate rows from his actual row on 17 points. Can't find anything relating to the teams' championship on the Marc VDS page, so I'm at a bit of a loose end. If I do find something, I'll get back to you, but as it stands, we'll probably have to wait for any possible changes on both sites... Cs-wolves(talk) 13:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm completely flummoxed. Beijing preview has 112 points for Marc VDS, but I imagine it's just an error on SRO's part. I suppose when the San Luis preview comes out – that said, it won't feel right to have this go unresolved until November! – we can put it to rest. Sorry I couldn't be of more help... Cs-wolves(talk) 23:02, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed that tally on the FIA website...I suppose the only option to get an immediate clarification about it, would be to email somebody at SRO. I'm just thinking out aloud with that one, because there's no guarantee of getting a positive response from there, as the person that you'd be emailing may not even know if it is a mistake or not. Although from past experience of looking at the GT3 site, there are a lot of errors that are eventually clarified, so we may have just picked up on a person's mistake at SRO and they just haven't realised yet! Cs-wolves(talk) 23:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Turns out it was an SRO error after all. Back to the 124 tally as we suggested, and amended in the season article while I was sticking the San Luis Q-Race result in. Craig(talk) 18:35, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the GT1 site has been having a mind of its own this weekend. I've still got the Blancpain timing link up, so I'll have a look at the PDF file when that pops up. I think the results are final but I do remember hearing that one of the Sumo Nissans (think it was the Catsburg car) was under investigation for a first lap incident.
It wasn't until after yesterday's race that I noticed it; soon as it said 124, checked the media site and the points were there. I'll get the points up after I've had a bite to eat. Shouldn't be more than an hour to eat and complete the table! Craig(talk) 18:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

2012 24 Hours of Le Mans

I think that you make a mistake on automatic selection. Could you check the sporting regulations 2011 ? link

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ALMS

I thought Lux should have lost, but the first ALMS post race release did not break the tie. Guess they are across the board slow clarifying their results. --Falcadore (talk) 08:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for correcting my edit at Petit Le Mans. I had misread the article, probably because it talked about the WEC following an article about Petit Le Mans, but it was addressing Sebring. And thanks for all you do on racing articles. 72Dino (talk) 17:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Caterham change

I believe that User:Vvipkho's changes to the Lotus/Caterham pages were correct in light of today's rebranding of the team. I have brought the matter up at Talk:Team Lotus (current)#Caterham change for people to discuss. Regards - mspete93 13:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

GT/WEC pages

You do what you think is best - but I do believe having the tables are important, and will have to be included sooner or later. It's much easier to find that information visually. So maybe a combination of table and prose rather than table and bullet points will work best. I might go in and tinker with the wording once you're done (I found some of the wording on the GT page in particular to be awkward, especially with the team entires), but I won't change anything back. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 23:07, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

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HPD ARX-03

Got me. Is there a "Failboat Barnstar?"

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