User talk:Trev999

Unsourced original research[edit]

Hello. Please stop making unsourced edits to Ryan Trevitt and adding original research. Wikipedia requires reliable sources. Please look at Wikipedia:No original research. Beatpoet (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In Wikipedia not every single word requires to be have been referenced in a source, otherwise wiki would be a bit thin on the ground on a lot of pages - especially lesser known people. As Ryan's father I was merely adding minor bits of extra information such as Andy Maciel coaching at LYFC is a major factor (rather than the club per se) in him now achieving pro level at BFC. Ryan was highly successful at rugby and Futsal (national champion at U14 & U16 level) but these are not widely covered in the media for sources, but could be of interest to someone who bothered to click on his wiki page. I appreciate you have set the page from the info you have sourced online & updated his career progression which is great. I don't plan to make regular updates but do plan to reinstate my edits later on. Regards Trev999 (talk) 08:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Ryan was highly successful at rugby and Futsal (national champion at U14 & U16 level) but these are not widely covered in the media for sources" - that's exactly why that info doesn't stand. If it gets reported via reliable sources, that's fine. I'm sorry, but family info (ie. original research) does not pass. Beatpoet (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have n't added any detail on LYFC, Futsal or Rugby for that reason. However Andy Maciel is well known as head of coaching at LYFC for 10 years until recently, from any google search. Pro sports clubs have never listed out youth players online for obvious reasons so that is reliant on other sources. Same with trials. Both LYFC & St. John's have had news stories in the past on Ryan but probably due to time duration no longer available. So sources are not guaranteed to be available indefinitely - so is data then removed from a wiki page? I don't think so. I will be restoring what are perfectly valid high level comments back to Ryan's page. Trev999 (talk) 14:01, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023[edit]

Because you have been repeatedly adding unreferenced content and because of your admitted Conflict of interest, you have been indefinitely blocked from editing Ryan Trevitt. The relevant policies include Verifiability and No original research. You are free to make well-referenced Edit requests at Talk: Ryan Trevitt. Please read the Guide to appealing blocks. Cullen328 (talk) 19:30, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. So did you actually review the very minor changes I added in or just comply with the complaining contributor's wish to prevent others making changes so block me?

He says about original research but yet he references Ryan playing for Leatherhead U6 thru U18 (which is wrong anyway it was U7 thru U18) and about failed trials at Fulham Fc and QPR. None of this is on public record, so "BeatPoet" would have deduced this probably from interviews given by Ryan or his social media platforms. I don't see anything in the reference list to say where he got this information. Please advise as that would appear to be have come from a conflict of interest source (Ryan) according to what your saying.

In reality the idea that family members do not contribute towards content of Wikipedia across the world is laughable to be honest. I understand the need for reliable information, in this case what I added was just useful high level information for someone who might be interested in Ryan Trevitt having clicked on his wiki page - in no way conflicting with anything else that was on the page. I suspect this is more about "BeatPoet" not wanting anyone else to edit "his" wiki pages!

If Wiki can shut out a contributor so easily, then it would appear to be a closed shop. I have donated to Wikipedia in the past, but if my account remains blocked I certainly will not do that again. Trev999 (talk) 08:21, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]