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Hello. Thank you for your first edit here, on Wikipedia for the year 2024. Γιάννης Ευαγγελίου (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Congrats on making the first edit of 2024! Big up, legend. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 00:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

You were lurking in the shadows waiting for the right moment to strike, weren't you? That paid off! Congrats! (and for those curious, this was the final edit of 2023) —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 01:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Poybo Media

Hi Utopes, I finished making this draft longer to the best of my ability. hopefully other editors can expand it more but i'll try to do it later if i remember. i'd appreciate if you could check if it's ready, thx Deondernemers (talk) 07:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that; I'll resubmit the draft under your name, but I'll leave it to another reviewer to see if someone else can ascertain the plot more than I can. As I mentioned earlier, the references look reliable, but another set of eyes could be warranted now that there's more to chew on. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Shaun The Sheep 2 talk: Farmageddon

Greetings Utopes,

Is this an error? Or I am missing something? Maliner (talk) 06:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Woah! I am... not sure how that happened, definitely an error. Thanks for catching it! Going to look at other similar edits to see if anything else looks like that, as I haven't seen anything like that before. Very perplexed because that type of message can/would only be placed on a talk page. Again, thank you! Utopes (talk / cont) 06:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
@Utopes this this and this
Saw it before, this error seems to be occurring since last year where it bugs when a talk page has a : in the middle. Justiyaya 06:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
No worries. We all know you're a great editor. Isn't it Justiyaya? Maliner (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Appreciate the heads up all, I'll be mindful when dealing with those requests, and/or CSD any errors such as the above if they slip through the cracks. Cheers! Utopes (talk / cont) 06:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
mhm! emptying the redirects backlog is really nice :D Justiyaya 06:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
@Justiyaya: You are great, too. I appreciate your efforts in reducing our backlog through your participation in the recent NPP backlog drive. Maliner (talk) 06:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm also here to find out why you are creating odd talk pages. I see on the Move log that they are frequently then moved to the correct location. But I see that other editors have brought this issue to you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Nativity 3: Dude, Where's My Donkey?! is an example of what I'm concerned about. Liz Read! Talk! 07:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
It appears that it's a potential bug / unexpected occurrence in the AFC/R helper script. When creating pages requested at AFC/R, the helper script places a banner on the respective talk page of each redirect created. Most of the time this is done without any problems. However, for a small subset of redirects (all of which contain a colon), there seems to be an issue where this talk page is created in the wrong namespace (article space). Justiyaya linked a discussion where this error was first brought up from last year. I didn't notice there was a problem at first but luckily I believe all of these situations have been taken care of, and I've scanned ahead and there's only one page left in the backlog that contains a colon, yet to be created. Could be good to test on if wanted; hopefully this clears up the situation! Utopes (talk / cont) 07:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

AFC/RC

Archiving empty requests doesn't make sense, but if you want to do so, no problem. Happy editing! – DreamRimmer (talk) 19:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

The first request had entries that didn't get registered in the right format (but there was no rationale so they probably wouldn't pass). The second case had some text, but the main reason for logging was in case the two IPs wanted to revise their nomination in the future, so at least there's record of it 👍. Probably not the most necessary to keep record of, but during the process of archiving I figured I'd make sure to grab 100% of the non-vandalism requests made rather than cutting the malformatted ones. That way, everything is preserved from the good to the bad, in the very rare chance it'll be looked at again later. No worries, thanks for everything you do, and happy editing! Utopes (talk / cont) 19:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the categories

Thank you for recently creating the series of stock market categories, and in doing so, clearing the backlog. Much appreciated. You've helped make progress in something that has been held up by various roadblocks since early November last year. 92.71.60.61 (talk) 11:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:RFD

Hello, Utopes,

Thanks for taking some of the bad redirects you found to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 21#Chen Mingyi (Taiwan）. It was a snow close to Delete all which I was expecting. But I have seen some redirects with minor grammatical mistakes like this kept for technical reasons which I don't really understand and can't explain. It has to do with how some computers read and interpret text.

I'm just trying to discourage patrollers from using CSD G6 as a "catch-all" criteria that doesn't really stand for anything but articles, redirects or templates that are just wrong. Speedy deletion criteria are intentionally very specific and limited to apply to very obvious cases so pages like this that are clearly incorrect but don't fit a criteria are best going to AFD or RFD where editors who are experienced in reviewing certain types of pages can evaluate them. Liz Read! Talk! 02:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello Liz, thank you for the alert! I wasn't intending to use G6 as a means to hypothetically "just delete" a page, or in an "absence of rationale". There certainly are certainly a number of these that I've been able to identify, and you may have seen an uptick of such case following the closure of a handful of recent RfDs that you've pulled up, which indicated to me that it might have been a more wide scale issue. Particularly, there is this query which shows the list such cases, as they existed before deletion: [1] (and this is the query which includes pages that are still up, and don't meet the CSD criteria (or I haven't checked them): [2])
This said, I don't think I've been using G6 as a "catch-all" criteria. I completely understand how using it like one would be a problem, because it is important to make sure that CSD criteria are correctly categorized, and deleting something because "it's vaguely not right" is not a good reason for deletion, as this interpretation differs from person to person and not concrete. In the template text for Template:Db-error, it states: "This may meet [the CSD criteria]... as a redirect left over from moving a page that was obviously created at the wrong title". Based on the edit summaries used in every page-move, these pages were very shortly moved to the correct title, after previously being created at the wrong title.
Throughout this process, I feel as if I've been conscientious of which of these pages with unlikely characters I've been nominating. I've been paying attention to edit summaries and move logs to make sure that each page was an early page move from a title created in error, with no other editing history that may have arisen since then. As an example, there's a reason why I tagged Tomomatsu Atsunobu（Scholar) for G6, but have done nothing about the nearly identical Atsunobu Tomomatsu（Scholar） due to the page history of the latter. During the time that I was going through these titles, I also was creating relevant RfD threads such as this and that, as these pages were brand new creations at these titles and not redirects left behind from page moves, thus these did not meet the G6-error criteria.
I don't believe I've made a mistake on this front, but if there are any examples that weren't early page moves from articles created at the wrong title, I would be gracious to know, as this wasn't my intention. 🙏 I appreciate the reminder, as it's always good to make sure the right rationale is used for deletion tags, but you'd also be correct that I didn't want to flood RfD with that many more of these if G6-error was applicable. 😅 I've been trying my best to ensure that the correct channels are used for titles with these characters, but please let me know if there's anything I should be doing differently in the future with these. Thanks again! Utopes (talk / cont) 04:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Palworld

I disagree with you about its class. B it is not. I would place this more at a C status. Its written like an advertisement and has grammatical issues. Its really close, but I dot think its there yet per WP:Content assessment#Grades. Im going to run it though WPCleaner and fix it a bit, I already have some. Its in interesting topic. Dillard421♂♂ (talk to me) 23:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Yeshayahu Folman

Hello, you declined my draft and I believe it's a mistake since a few sources are in Hebrew but Yeshayahu was an Israeli and a proffesor in Israel so there are most sources in Hebrew. Can you please review this since all sources are reliable and if one isnt in your opnion I will clear it. Thank you. Shahar Navon new (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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I was re-reviewing for NPP and came across Godfrey Boyle which has a high Earwig score. I think is suffers from WP:CLOP Bruxton (talk) 00:32, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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