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Evie Ferris

For Evie Ferris you pulled in the description of Australian singer from Wikidata. I don't know much about Wikidata, so I am not sure how the information is generated. From the articles I read about Ferris, she seems to be known as a dancer, though I don't know if she also sings on the The Wiggles. I didn't want to just change the short description, as I did not know how Wikidata came up with the description of singer. Your thoughts? DaffodilOcean (talk) 16:49, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @DaffodilOcean, the Wikidata item was created in this edit: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q109545672&oldid=1526319574. It used to be that short descriptions were retrieved from Wikidata, which can provide those in many languages. (So handy!) Then some folks decided that we shouldn't do that for some reason and all material such as descriptions should be kept on enwiki in plain text instead of on Wikidata in a structured database. So now there's a project to localize them: Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions. There is a gadget that makes writing those short descriptions easier: Wikipedia:Shortdesc helper. I have that enabled, and whenever I see a missing short description I add one, often by importing the existing description from Wikidata . Anything I contribute to Wikipedia, can and very likely should be improved. You should feel free to change the short description to whatever you think is best. I am not interested in Ferris, but I was curious why her biography is up for deletion. Vexations (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Whoa, I had no idea so much went into the short descriptions. Thanks for sharing all the details. I will go ahead and update the short description for Ferris to 'Australian dancer'. As for why Ferris is up for deletion, I am not sure. However, the article did have less detail before I started working on it. DaffodilOcean (talk) 01:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I know you are well versed in art topics. I wonder if you might give me an opinion about a separate article for Western (genre) or Western art. I recently started an article on Richard Lorenz (artist) and started reading about others who worked in that area. Right now it is a paragraph in the Western (genre) article. Thanks! Bruxton (talk) 04:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Bruxton I don't know if "Western" is the most common term in use for art that depicts the American frontier or the "Wild West". The National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum may be a good source for a more definitive terminology. I often refer to the Getty Art & Architecture Thesaurus, but they don't list the term as relating to painting or visual arts, only film and literature.

I'd try to avoid any confusion of the American west with Western Europe. See for example Britannica's article on Western arts. That would be my first response if you asked me what I thought western art was.

Interesting how many Germans artists were making this kind of work. Have you read Native Americans in German popular culture? Vexations (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I have not read that article but I will. It is interesting that they latched on to that genre.Bruxton (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #21

Welcome to the twenty-first newsletter from the Growth team!

New project: Positive reinforcement

The Growth team started a new project: Positive reinforcement. We want newcomers to understand there is an interest in regularly editing Wikipedia, and we want to improve new editor retention.
We asked users from Arabic, Bangla, Czech and French Wikipedia about their feedback. Some people participated at mediawiki.org as well.
We summarized the initial feedback gathered from these community discussions, along with how we plan to iterate based on that feedback.
The first Positive Reinforcement idea is a redesign of the impact module: incorporating stats, graphs, and other contribution information. This idea received the widest support, and we plan to start our work based on the design illustrated on the side.
Please let us know what you think of this project, in any language.

For mentors

We have worked on two new features, to inform them about the mentorship:
- In the Mentor module, we now provide more information about the public nature of the mentors/newcomer relationship and the fact that talk pages are public.
- We now allow newcomers to opt-in and opt-out of mentorship.

Scaling

"Add a link" available at more wikis ― Add a link feature has been deployed to more wikis: Catalan Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Simple English Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Abkhazian Wikipedia, Achinese Wikipedia, Adyghe Wikipedia, Afrikaans Wikipedia, Akan Wikipedia, Alemannisch Wikipedia, Amharic Wikipedia, Aragonese Wikipedia, Old English Wikipedia, Syriac Wikipedia, Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia, Asturian Wikipedia, Atikamekw Wikipedia, Avaric Wikipedia, Aymara Wikipedia, Azerbaijani Wikipedia, South Azerbaijani Wikipedia. This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure locally how this feature works.
"Add an image" available at more wikis ― Add an image feature will be deployed to more wikis: Greek Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. These communities will be able to configure locally how this feature works. [1]

Suggested edits

Selecting topics ― We have created an "AND" filter to the list of topics at Special:Homepage. This way, newcomers can decide to select very specific topics ("Transportation" AND "Asia") or to have a broader selection ("Transportation" OR "Asia"). At the moment this feature is tested at pilot wikis.
Changes for Add a link ― We have built several improvements that came from community discussion and from data analysis. They will be available soon at the wikis.
- Algorithm improvements ― The algorithm now avoids recommending links in sections that usually don't have links and for first names. Also, it now limits each article to only having three link suggestions by default (limited to the highest accuracy suggestions of all the available ones in the article).
- User experience improvements ― We added a confirmation dialog when a user exits out of suggestion mode prior to making changes. We also improved post-edit dialog experience and allow newcomers to browse through task suggestions from the post-edit dialog.
- Community configuration ― We allow communities to set a maximum number of links per article via Special:EditGrowthConfig.
- Future change for Add a link feature ― We will suggest underlinked articles in priority. [2]
Patrolling suggested edits ― Some users at Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia told us that "Add a link" and "Add an image" edits can be challenging to patrol. We are now brainstorming improvements to help address this challenge. We have already some ideas and we started some work to address this challenge. If you have any thoughts to add about the challenges of reviewing these tasks or how we should improve these tasks further, please let us know, in any language.

Community configuration

Communities can configure how the features work, using Special:EditGrowthConfig.

Communities can set the maximum number of "add an image" suggested tasks a newcomer can complete daily. [3]
Future change: allow communities to customize the "add a link" quality gate threshold easily, using Special:EditGrowthConfig. [4]

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13:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Gerda Arendt, but I wonder where you get your data from: I made my first edit on 10 May 2006. Vexations (talk) 10:47, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

I wonder how anniversary of Precious can be misunderstood ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

I didn't check the link. Thanks, Vexations (talk) 10:55, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

Vexations,

Thanks for your contribution to the Miriam Shatal article. This article is being considered for deletion. Could we get your opinion?

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miriam Shatal

Thanks

T. E. Meeks (talk) 11:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

I've been looking for references, since I'm fluent in Dutch, but I can't find much. I did find a photo: https://www.joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/181268/marianne-jeannette-pinkhof-oppenheim. Vexations (talk) 11:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, Vexations. As a result of your comments on the WiR talk page, I thought I would take a look at your own article creations. I see you have been responsible for including quite a few women artists yourself. As you seem interested not only in visual art but in mentoring, growth and statistics, not to mention your knowledge of Dutch and German, I'm sure you would be a useful member of our project. Please think about joining. I think you will find us pretty welcoming and not at all subject to the aspects of leadership you so dislike. Alternatively, if you are not keen to become a member, I could always include you on our mailing list so that you could see what we are doing.--Ipigott (talk) 13:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, I'll think about it. Vexations (talk) 14:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award

		The New Page Reviewer Bronze Award
		For over 1,000 article reviews during 2021. Well done! Keep up the good work! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:25, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2020

		The New Page Reviewer's Iron Award
		For over 360 article reviews during 2020. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:38, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2020. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We are just getting caught up. If you don't want to receive "old" barnstars, please just ignore this and reply to let us know not to send you any more. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2018

		The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award
		For over 1,000 article reviews during 2018. Well done! Keep up the good work! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2018. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We have just caught up with giving out deserved barnstars. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #22

Welcome to the twenty-second newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomers tasks reach the 500,000 edits milestone — more data publicly available

As of the last week of June 2022, the newcomers of the world have completed over 500,000 newcomer tasks. In other words, newcomers have made over half a million Wikipedia edits via Growth’s “Suggested Edits” module.

About 30% of those edits were completed on mobile devices.
Usage continues to increase; in June 2022 almost 50,000 newcomer tasks were completed.

We have added some new data to Grafana. You can now check the number of edits and reverts by task types, or the number of questions asked to mentors. You can filter the data by wiki.

If you have any questions, or there is more data you want access to, please let us know.

Ongoing projects and explorations

We are continuing our work on our new project, Positive Reinforcement. User testing of initial Positive Reinforcement designs was just completed. Interviews were conducted in Arabic, English, and Spanish. The outcome has been published on the Positive Reinforcement page. We are now utilizing user testing feedback along with prior community feedback to iterate and improve designs.

We are exploring the idea of a Copy Edit structured task. We have tested copy edits in Wikipedia articles for arwiki, bnwiki, cswiki, eswiki (Growth pilot-wikis) and enwiki with two different methods: LanguageTool and Hunspell. We will share more details here and on the associated Copy Edit page once the evaluation is complete.

Add an image was utilized at GLAM events in Argentina, Mexico, and Chile. For an overview of what was learned from these events, read: #1Pic1Article I: how Latin American heritage experts added images to Wikipedia (in English).

Experiments analysis

Add a Link Experiment Analysis has been published. The most important points are:

Newcomers who get the Add a Link structured task are more likely to be activated (i.e. make a constructive first article edit).
They are also more likely to be retained (i.e. come back and make another constructive article edit on a different day).
The feature also increases edit volume (i.e. the number of constructive edits made across the first couple weeks), while at the same time improving edit quality (i.e. the likelihood that the newcomer's edits aren't reverted).

Newcomer task edit type analysis has been published.

Communities had expressed concern that newcomers whose initial edits were structured tasks wouldn’t go on to learn how to complete more difficult tasks. The Growth team data scientist conducted a Newcomer task edit type analysis to see if this was indeed the case.
Results from analysis indicate that this likely isn’t a significant concern. More than 70% of users who start with the easy task "Add a link" also make another task type. Read the full analysis and methodology here.

News for mentors

A new system for the mentors list

The configuration of the mentors list will change over the next weeks. In the future, mentors will sign up, edit their mentor description and quit using Special:MentorDashboard. This new system will make the development of new features for mentors much easier.

At the moment, the mentor list is a simple page anyone can edit, unless it’s protected. With the new page, mentors will be able to edit only their own description, while administrators will be able to edit the entire mentors' list if needed.

The deployment will happen first at the pilot wikis, then at all wikis. Existing lists of mentors will be automatically converted, no action will be needed from the mentors. [5][6]

Mentors will be informed about the next steps soon, by a message posted on the talk page of existing Mentor lists.

Learn more about this new structured page on mediawiki.org.

A tip for mentors

Did you know that mentors can filter their mentees' changes at Special:MentorDashboard (and star the ones that require attention)? This feature helps to keep an eye on newcomers' edits, helping mentors to fix minor details, and encourage them if necessary.

And did you know that mentors have special filters to highlight their mentees' edits at Special:RecentChanges? Look for the following filters in RecentChanges: Your starred mentees, Your unstarred mentees.

Other improvements

Some improvements will be made to the mentor dashboard in the coming weeks:

While we now offer some options for mentors to take a break, the option to quit mentoring was not easy to find. This will be improved. [7]
Mentors at wikis using FlaggedRevisions will have a way to discover their mentees' pending edits. [8]
Dashboard discovery for new mentors will be improved. [9]

Recent changes and fixed bugs

We moved to a new Image Suggestions API. This new API will allow us to deploy Add an Image to more wikis. [10]
Starting September 19, a few more wikis now offer Add an image to newcomers. These wikis are Greek Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia. [11]
Add an image has been disabled for a few days due to technical issue. "Add an image" added a blank line instead of an image. This has been fixed. [12]
In order to know if Special:EditGrowthConfig is used by communities, we now instrument page loads and saves of configuration. [13]

Have a question? A suggestion?

Please let us know! You can also read our FAQ page.

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"Thymoma-associated multiorgan autoimmunity (TAMA)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Thymoma-associated multiorgan autoimmunity (TAMA) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 26#Thymoma-associated multiorgan autoimmunity (TAMA) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. CiaPan (talk) 09:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

PaykanArtCar

Found an interesting artwork, feel free to dig in if you feel like it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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Happy holidays and hope the new year is bright!

Have a wonderful holiday season
filled with peace, joy, prosperity and wonder.

Hi Vexations, Thank you for all your contributions during the year.
I miss seeing you around and hope you decide to return soon. I've always respected your work here, and am especially grateful for some of the things you have posted to your user page.
May your 2023 be filled with creativity and good health.
Image: Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927

Netherzone (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

		Happy Holidays
		Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 18:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2022

		The New Page Reviewer's Iron Award
		For over 360 article reviews during 2022. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:21, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)