User talk:WikiDon/O5 Archive-2

Superdome

Oddly enough, it turned out the Superdome does have a retractible roof, under certain conditions. Wahkeenah 03:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

List of Allied forces in the Normandy Campaign

Hi,

Just thought i'd drop you a message to ask what you think about the list - is it ok? By the way, what approach do you think should be taken on the list of US divisions in Normandy? Do you think it should still have its own separate page (maybe moved to List of United States forces in the Normandy Campaign) or be merged into the Allied list? I don't know anything about the US Armed Forces, so I'll leave it to the experts, if that's ok :-) Anyway, take care, dude. SoLando 00:10, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Oscar Levant

Why did you leave out "reputed" in quoting my alusion to the Levant epitaph? That should be a sufficient qualifier. Nevertheless, I've changed the entry, to wit:

In their routines other comics have claimed, apocryphally, that that hypochondriac Levant's epitaph was inscribed, "I told them I was ill."

— J M Rice 03:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Thing is wikidon, the reason why I keep editing the article is because it is heavily biased against Federer. You cannot include in the introduction such accusations as: there are not all that many decent tennis players around at the moment when you have Marat Safin, Hewitt, Roddick , Nadal, all of which would be winning trophies if Federer wasn't around. The other thing is many tennis greats including Becker and J.Macenroe concede that Federer has the potential to be the greatest, and not because there are not many good tennis players around but because he is highly gifted. So I consider my edition of the introduction to be more accurate. You have great dogs by the way. I love dogs.

wikidon

RE: 81.26.239.50

You gave User:81.26.239.50 a final warning, but he is still doing it. And User:GraemeL gave him another "please stop." Mean what you say. WikiDon 19:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

No response? WikiDon 20:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

I am not sure what sort of response time you were expecting, but 52 weeks out of the year I like to relax by taking weekends off away from the console. You did not receive an immediate reply because you contacted me during one of those weekends. Generally speaking, I do not block people if they have ceased their offensive activities while I'm online, which was the case in the instance of 81.26.239.50. Should this particular person relapse into vandal-like activities while I am around, rest assured they will be dealt with accordingly. Please also be aware that channels exist for the purpose of reporting such problems, such as WP:VIP, WP:AIV, and WP:AN/I, all of which are monitored by a host of administrators rather than one person. In the future, please make a note that a concerted effort on your part to show politeness and respect when sparking up a new conversation would be greatly appreciated, as your implication that I do not mean what I say was not well received. Best regards, Hall Monitor 23:31, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

It's versus its

Regarding the Moab, Utah article: it's is a contraction for "it is" or "it has", while its means "something that belongs to it". The rule may seem to make less sense when you're thinking about posessives, but that's the way it goes. The It's versus Its page and Apostrophe (mark) have a straightforward explanation on the topic, while Bob the Angry Flower has a little more sarcastic take on it. --Elkman 17:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Black Kettle

WikiDon, I am green to this, but Thank You for your guidance. User:165.83.196.82 18:24, 15 September 2005

Hey, thanks for commenting on my talk page. I think the article has made some major expansions, it does need to be copyedited and seperated into sections, but it is good. I only reverted his last edit because it blanked all but one paragraph of the article. -GregAsche (talk) 21:55, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

St. Louis-San Francisco Railway

Thanks for your contribution to St. Louis-San Francisco Railway. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 11:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Mexican Hat

Yes, I think it's important for a universal encyclopedia aimed an international audience to indicate the country a place is in, not just its subnational entity. There's 50 states in the USA, and not everyone in the world is familiar with the names of all 50. Yeah, I can name all 50, but I'm a geography geek: I don't think my next-door-neighbors on either side could make it over 20. Your argument about clicking on the county, then through to the state -- well, yes, but isn't it easier to indicate the topl-level nation from the get-go? And that, I think, applies doubly to some tiny little hamlet whose claim to fame is three motels, a gas station, and a funny rock formation (cool tho' it is: the photo's mine, from a trip there last year). Compare other cities in the world: larger ones -- and in internally more important subnational divisions than Utah is to the USA -- such as Mérida, Yucatán, São Paulo, São Paulo, or Patan, Gujarat: they all specify the country they're in as well as the state or province. Of course, since so many of our editors are based in the U.S., I don't think I'll get anywhere by belaboring the point or reverting; systemic bias and all that. However, do take a look at the "Anglo-American focus" section on WP:NPOV or the "Geographical bias" section on Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Examples, and let me know if that serves to change your opinion in any way. –Hajor 00:00, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Oops: I have just taken a look at your recent edits to the article. Please scratch the "revert" comment in the above. From your message on my talk I assumed you had deleted the country reference, and I apologize, hand on heart, for making unwarranted assumptions. (Nice bridge pic, too -- I had breakfast at the motel/restaurant just underneath that.) Cheers, –Hajor 00:10, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup about Mérida -- I'll try and remember to take a look later, but I'm off downstairs now to watch some tv and drink some Gallo (beer). I'm in Mexico City, btw. What part of NM are you in? Cheers, –Hajor 00:34, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

To answer your questions

1) the article on jaynes would have been longer had I had more information. At least in the Portland area, he is a major figure -- however you feel about the overall viability of the Portland Tribune it does receive wide distribution, and the views he expresses do carry some weight in Oregon poltiics related to sports 9though not as much as he thinks it does). So I'd say he was Wikipedia-worthy.

2) I don't know much about Mike Rich so I couldn't help there. Sorry.

• User:Michael Hopcroft 08:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

204.184.37.2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Thanks for the note. Taken care of, see user's talk page. Not sure why the one year block disapeared, see the block log link above. --Duk 21:03, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

I'm new to all this but love contributing.

Thanks for your help, H2eddsf3

User:Robert Blair / User:Jayjg / User:Grunt

Dear User:Grunt and User:Jayjg, I am not User:Robert Blair, we just both happen to use Earthlink. I would comment on your talk pages, but I CAN'T, I can't edit anywhere else but here. Thank you very little! WikiDon 01:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

What sort of IP did you come from? I can't find your username in the block log, so you were probably caught in an IP block, unwittingly. Inter\^Echo 17:44, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Inadvertent blocking

Very sorry about that WikiDon, your e-mails were all being shunted off to my junk mailbox, so I didn't see them. If I have to block Robert Blair again, and your IP address gets caught as well, rest assured I will be on the lookout for e-mails from you. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience. Jayjg ^(talk) 01:38, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

NBA Draft

I see you've had some trouble here. I'd ask a couple of things:

• Did you use the lower lever templates, or did you just go straight to the level 4?
• Often it's better to step away and get some back up. Have you tried that?
  

brenneman^(t)(c) 06:48, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Probably the best thing for you to do for right now is to take a break from this page. There are a few people looking things over now. It can get stressfull, but usually after a cup of tea and a becks everything seems better. (Disclaimer: Whenever I've suffered wikistress and been given the "cup of tea" advice, I've never taken it!)
brenneman^(t)(c) 07:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I note that this user's most recent contribution is an attempt to communicate with you (points up). While he is being pretty offensive, in the end he simply wants the same thing you do - to edit the page.
If you're determined to keep editing right now please use Talk:1986 NBA Draft and leave the main page alone until you work something out. I'm suggesting that to the other user, as well.
brenneman^(t)(c) 07:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

1986 NBA Draft

I've blocked the IP address for 24 hours for violation of 3RR.

A few comments for you...it is generally considered wrong to put {{test4}} on a user's page unless you are an administrator- non-administrators cannot block, so the threat is meaningless. If this happens again, leave a note on WP:VIP and an admin will take care of it.

Also, when posting 3RR violations, please make sure that you post links to the reverts in question (or, at the very least, links to the page in question). Lastly, I agree with a few other users above- please take a break from 1986 NBA Draft for a while (perhaps stay away from it for another 24 hours), and don't take editing disputes so personally. They do happen, just make sure that you follow the rules and you'll be fine :) Ral315 14:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Cite Sources Notice

==Please cite sources== You have made a large number of edits to a wide range of articles today, but have not provided any source for your data. If you would, please WP:CITE source(s) for your changes in the future or they may be reverted. Best regards, Hall Monitor 16:11, 22 September 2005 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WikiDon (talk • contribs) 23:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

That will be fine. With regards to the Tommy Lasorda article, I have cited 5 references which allege that the cause of his son's death stemmed from AIDS. A google search for the two [1] returns approximately 12,500 hits. When someone of Lasorda's stature wants to keep something a family secret, it becomes very difficult to concretely validate, but it is still something which has received a great deal of press and is deserving of attention within the article. Hall Monitor 23:19, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Judy, Judy, Judy

Whoever rewrote that little blurb of mine in the Cary Grant article improved it significantly, as I figured someone would. I just had to put something in there about it, since I had just written a reference to it in the James Cagney article, because I had just been watching the Yankee Doodle Dandy DVD set, in case nobody could tell. It looks as if "Judy, Judy, Judy" is one of those things that was "almost" said, and was later "re-quoted" because it sounded crisper than the original... like Mae West, who never quite said, "Come up and see me sometime" (to Cary Grant, oddly enough); or Humphrey Bogart, who never quite said, "Play it again, Sam." That hackneyed impression of "Judy, Judy, Judy" you referenced was actually done by George Lindsey as Goober Pyle, cousin to Gomer Pyle. The joke-within-the-joke there was that Goober's "impression" was in his own voice, not sounding at all like Grant's unique way of saying it if he had actually said it. I hope all this is clear. :) Wahkeenah 01:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Roger Federer

Yes, you're right, I don't know what I can have been thinking of. I should have put "His parents met while his father was on a business trip" (which I've now done). But "His father met Roger's mother..." really sounded very unnatural. I could see that it was trying to avoid the ambiguity of "Roger's father met his mother...", so I tried to re-phrase it. Deb 17:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

wiktionary

Hi. Since I see you're not that often on wiktionary, I thought I'd notify you here that I responded to your comment on my talk page over there. \Mike(z) 06:04, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

moves..

hi! i reverted the copy-paste, but I can't do a move as the new page already exists. On how_to_move_a_page it says the only way to do this now is to do it manually or have an administrator to delete the destination page... you don't happen to be one? DocendoDiscimus 09:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I see it's sorted, thanks for your help - continuing now with link fixes... have done over 100 already, so the few remaining should be easy... DocendoDiscimus 10:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

On moving the Stock Market Regulation in the United States - I agree with you, that it could have value on its own - but that it then should be moved to Securities regulation in the United States to make it clearly defined, and with a note that it should be expanded DocendoDiscimus 19:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

John Ford, alias Feeney

Hello Don. Sorry that I had to leave that in such a state; I had something else that had to be seen to. As to your queries:

1) What does the close parenthesis mean? That was the way I found it, and did'nt change it yet.

2) Why is "Abbey" in parenthesis? Same reason.

3) Why did you put the name of the place like this: Because An Spidéal is the correct name for it; Spiddal is merely an English form.

4) Why put impoverished in parenthesis? I did? Ooops.

5) On the names of the children: To indicate that Mamie was the name she was known by (nickname), but that Mary Agnes was her baptisimal name. Likewise Delia and Hannah. It is normal for Wikipedia to put dates of bith and death in parenthesis. Again, my apoligies. I had to save and GO in a hurry!

6) Why forward slash this date: To indicate that he was born and died in the same year.

7) Normally Wikipedia staly is to put references in a "Reference" section, not under "Biography". Please see Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Again, haste is responsible. Will clean up shortly, though I hasten to add that I won't be able to do it to the entire article in one sitting! But I will try to leave it looking better than I found it. Thank you for setting me straight! I have an interest in Ford as I live only a few miles from An Spidéal, which is still an Irish-specking area, and indeed I have a passing acquaintence with some of his relatives. Fergananim 20:51, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

NFR

(1) What I was trying to say is that the NFR very often determines the annual PRCA champion. Generally, the leader in an event going into the NFR has a money lead that can very easily be overtaken by one or more of the chasers. If I remember correctly, the NFR not only offers money based on overall placement during the entire the NFR, but also on position in each daily round, and leadership in the average (i.e., average performance up to that point in the NFR) at the end of each day. Quite often, the money lead for the year in a given event will change hands more than once during the NFR.

(2) I was WAY too slow to respond last time. (head downcast) I eventually did, and tried to apologize. It's nothing you said... I tend to get a little busy at times.

Dale Arnett 08:31, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Alburquerque

WikiDon-- Thanks for your little note. It's a good thing this is a wiki, or who knows where we'd be. Thanks for keeping an eye out. See ya around. Oh, and your dogs are pretty cute. What?! What kind of Dark Lord am I supposed to be? Phooey. :-) Cheers. --Lord Voldemort ^{(Dark Mark)|My RfA} 13:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

ILFC and GECAS

ILFC is larger by value. Clarified. Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 14:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

THE CONQUEROR VERSUS THE CAINE MUTINY

Cause of Death 1) Smoking or 2) The Conqueror Okay, for the fun of it, I decided to test a theory. I picked another popular movie at random from about the same time period as The Conqueror, I picked the The Caine Mutiny. Of the 42 actors listed in the credits at IMDb for The Caine Mutiny, it only list the cause of death (or that have died) for 15 of them. Of those 15, 8 died of cancer, 1 of a brain tumor, and 1 of leukemia. That is 53% outright of cancer, and 75% of cancer related diseases.

The Caine Mutiny (died of cancer related diseases): Humphrey Bogart José Ferrer Tom Tully E.G. Marshall Warner Anderson Claude Akins Jerry Paris Steve Brodie Don Dubbins Todd Karns Tyler McVey Filming Locations for The Caine Mutiny (1954): Los Angeles, California, USA Naval Station Treasure Island, San Francisco, California, USA Pearl Harbor, O`ahu, Hawaii, USA Yosemite National Park, California, USA I suppose Yosemite gave those people cancer?

WikiDon 23:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

10/05/2005

Hi, Don Wiki, or Dom Wiki, or Señor Wiki:

I come hat in hand. I would like to ask you a favour, but first I want to remind you about the above, as I tried to do the math calculations as you did, but 15 is only about 35% of 42; also you listed 11 names, not 10 or 15, so I am understandably confused as to your point and to the 75% you refer to; I admit that I am a featherweight in math & science, so I am sure you are right but I would appreciate it if you could provide the "Dummie"'s Guide to Wikimath.

The favour that I am requesting is that because I believe that "Alli-oops", "Jtdirl" (aka "No September"), "Djegan", "PeterO", and others from Ireland are censoring my edits becuase they show certain Irish shibboleths in a bad light. I cannot abide the idea that I am being censored in my own country by foreigners with a political agenda. I would like to show you if you agree and when you are available the changes I have made which they continually revert (3rr) even though there is nothing unfactual about most, and the rest are a matter of discretion, which they exercise against me because they don't want their country shown in a bad light.

Thanks, Rms125a@hotmail.com 20:06, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: 24.53.71.212

Thanks for letting me know. I was asleep at the time, but I've blocked it now. --Canderson7 11:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Mea Culpas

As far as reading the Manual, I did so today as per your instructions, but remain a little confused. I know I should have done so when I first began Wikipedia-ing, but I am not good at reading lengthy materials, which is why I still don't have my own computer, and my VCR hasn't worked since the cable box was removed, but that is my personal situation. I really regret any missteps on my part (and I can't plead ignorance, nor would I, to all of them, but possibly to some of them) and I hope I can regain whatever confidence in me you had prior to my screwups.

Rms125a@hotmail.com 23:09, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

(Your favorite sockpuppet)

The United States of America

Hi WikiDon:

Why the United States of America rather than the United States? - Basically, I have this disambiguation habit... Until 1967 we had the United States of Brazil. We still have the United Mexican States. Both of these countries form part of the Americas, both seem like powers of the future. So scope exists for confusion. - The long form for the USA doesn't fit well everywhere, but I do tend to favour it. - Pedant17 01:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

"United States" does usually suffice in conversational English, but for encyclopaedic use "United States of America" seems safer and slightly more precise. - Pedant17 23:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

apologies

dear WikiDon,

i would like to apologize for any trouble I may have caused, and i assure you that I am no vandal. As i cannot recall ever breaking a link, i can only surmise that it was an accident of which i am guilty and do not intend on repeating, or that it was done by of my younger brothers who also use this computer. I interested to know whether or not you have information on when the edit was done, so that i may further investigate the incident.

I offer my sincerest apologies for any inconvenience that may have been caused.

Thank you,

Hossam

82.148.96.68

sorry for the bother,

my brothers arnet children, theyre teenagers, and i'm sure one of them thinks he's being funny, since they just made a very rude edit to the "burj-al-arab" page. Please block the ip address from editing wikipedia, i know this sounds strange, but i cant get to the bottom of this, so please just do the block, as i do not wish for my credibility to suffer further.

Thank you

Non-free photos

I've nominated three of your photos for deletion at WP:IFD. If you want them kept here, please license them under the GFDL. dbenbenn | talk 14:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

On a related note, could I ask you to vote on Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Userpage-image, which seems to be where the fate of non-GFDL userpage images is decided. Thue | talk 23:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

German companies

hi, I saw your comment on MAN AG. You're right, there's an over-emphasis on the bus activities. I've found that some bus enthousiasts have written a lot on even small bus manufacturers - but with a company such as MAN that gives a rather skewed image. I don't know much about the company myself - hopefully someone who does will straighten things out. DocendoDiscimus 14:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

New stub types

In the future, please propose new stub types at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals before creating them. This helps ensure that they don't cut across existing categories and have enough use; it also lets other editors know about the stub type's existance. As it wasn't proposed there, {{Petroleum-stub}} is now listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. --Mairi 14:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Ah, ok. No harm done. Have a look at Wikipedia:Stub (if you haven't already) too for how to create stub templates... Also, would you happen to know if there's a Wikiproject related to petroleum articles?--Mairi 00:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Chetwynd, British Columbia

Thanks for the info. I'm still working out the notes vs. references thing. I was never good at the technical aspects of formal writing (like referencing). Btw, I showed off Wikipedia to the mayor of Hudson's Hope, British Columbia today and used the Chetwynd article as an example of what I want to do with the Hudson's Hope article. She gave me her support and said she will give me lots of resources to write from. However, I'm only going to see her one more time before the elections. If she comes through that will be my next project. --maclean25 07:28, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

flickr

"Photos of Sakhalin @ Flickr" would not always guarantee the pictures of the place. -- Zondor 18:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Flickr: Photos tagged with sakhalin, photos most likely of Sakhalin -- Zondor 19:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Photos on flickr cannot be offensive [2] -- Zondor 19:27, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Public photos on flickr is most appropriate for public viewing [3] -- Zondor 20:47, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

The photos ([4] & [5]) are supposedly artistic rather than pornographic. You can find the same sort of pictures as well in Penis, Vagina, Breast, Clitoris, Anus, Photography of female nudes in the public domain, Indecent exposure, Pubic hair, User:Markaci/Nudity and not to mention on Commons as well such as Commons:Vagina -- Zondor 09:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I am making an effort to tag all offensive images so forks can automatically remove them. See Template:Offensive. -- Zondor 04:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Rio Grande

I see your point, and I eliminated the word "river" from the mention. However, the way it was before was completely gramatically inaccurate. I suppose if you don't want the word river to follow "Rio Grande" that people will need to click on the link to figure out that it's a river. Or else recast the sentence so that it has syntactic coherence and adheres to grammatical rules. I respect your point that "River" is redundant, but it's also true that most English speakers don't know that "Rio" means "river" in Spanish, and that there are plenty of cases in English of foreign phrases being incorporated into the language with a certain redundancy if the entire phrase were translated into English. Moncrief 18:22, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

"...straddles the river, the Rio Grande" is very awkward. Would we say "The St. Louis area straddles the river, the Mississippi"? No. I suppose if you don't want to just call it the Rio Grande (and hope that most readers know that's a river and those who don't will click the link), which I would, without the word "river" anywhere, you could say "the river called the Rio Grande" or "the river known as the Rio Grande," but both of those are also sort of odd. But not as odd as "the river, the Rio Grande." That just isn't how English sentences and phrases work. Moncrief 18:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Your last suggestion sounds good to me. I'll let you make the change. Moncrief 23:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I was just trying to find a way of getting rid of the "Rio Grande (river)" construction, which looks and sounds awkward. Probably "Rio Grande" by itself would suffice as long as it’s clear we’re talking about the river and not the street. Btw, Rio Grande actually means "big river," not grand river. Grand river would be Gran Rio. Camerafiend 00:41, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Sarah Siddons Award

Actually, I do mean "Chicago theatre". (see the article) - "Sarah Siddons Award annually to an actor for an outstanding performance in a Chicago theatrical production." (I think Chicagoans were probably a little tired of New York always stealing the spotlight with the restrictions to Broadway only for a Tony Award.) - 17:51, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Lauren Bacall

Thanks for your message, sorry for not checking the talk page, will do so in future. I was trying to tidy up the language a little. Arniep 20:24, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

fair enough, I've changed it to :"usually". Regards Arniep 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Golden Age of Hollywood. The definition says it "ended" after the end of WWII. Bacall's first film was in 1944. Therefore that makes her a veteran of the Golden Age. Ditto Angela Lansbury, for that matter. Bacall may have been a generation younger than those actors best known from the era, but she acted with them. Heck, she married one of 'em. 23skidoo 05:26, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

One film (actually 2 if you count Confidential Agent) is enough, and if you do a Google search on the subject you'll see there are a fair number of people who do consider her to be of the Golden Age of Hollywood. There are also many people who believe the Golden Age lasted till the end of the 1940s, not strictly the end of WWII (the definition you give is just one). I have also heard Golden Age of Hollywood used to describe the era of the studio contract system which didn't start to die out till the mid-late 1950s; another alternate definition is the Golden Age ended when the era of the MGM musicals came to a more-or-less official end with the release of Gigi in 1958. 23skidoo 14:31, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Pichu

Ok, but I have to thank you for bringing Macchu Pichu to WP:MOS standards. After SPATRA takes a hack at an article, it usually is left in dire need for slow copyediting. Thanks. Titoxd^(?!?) 07:02, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks,

Hi WikiDon,

Thanks for the feedback and thoughtful comments. I am planning on adding more aircraft information to wikipedia in the future. I will try to take your image placement and caption advice to heart.

Thanks again,

Rubyk 04:55, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your message

I apologize for my misinformed comment about how to appropriately move the Big 12 conference page, and hopefully no one did what I said. Rest assured, I had no intent on doing it myself, in case (as turned out to be true) it was the wrong way to go. It made sense to me at the time, but obviously Wikipedia has much more organized procedures for frequent tasks such as moves. I try not to get into complicated stuff like that myself, for fear of doing even one minor thing wrong, which is why I'll probably never accept an admin position even if it were offered to me. However, I will continue to do my best in helping Wikipedia. Thanks again for your productive comments!

EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 03:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Current events

Would you mind adding a source to back up your addition about Futenma? I can't find one... Mamawrites ^{& listens} 17:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I was just doing a regular google search, which wasn't picking up anything recent. Next time I'll know where to look! Mamawrites ^{& listens} 17:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Tumbler Ridge Distances & Measurements

Dear Sir,

The distances in the Tumbler Ridge article were changed to metric for two reasons:

• 1) Canada uses the metric system.

• 2) I changed the distances to create continuity in the article, because:

• • a) Half of the distances or measurements given were metric, while the other half were imperial, it is better if all measurements given are in the same system (saying Tumbler Ridge is such-and-such metres above mean sea level and then saying that it is such-and-such miles from Dawson Creek just does not sound right to my ears).

• • b) The info box already contains only metric measurements and no imperial ones

On my talk page you have unfairly made it seem as if I changed all the imperial measurements you posted in brackets behind the metric, when in actuality at that time of my edit you had not yet done that. When I edited that article, only one metric distance had an imperial distance behind it in brackets; I thought this looked funny so I deleted it (as I did not have the initiative to put imperial measurements behind every metric one, Kudos to you though for doing so). --RPlunk 21:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

306th

The official way to write "th" or "d" for USAF units is not in superscript. Not that I don't like them, it doesn't bother me either way, but was just trying to make it more accurate for everybody else.

Case corporation

hi, you're right, I'm still on the case! The Case Corporation doesn't exist anymore - it disappeared when it merged with New Holland. It has a rich history, which you'll find at Case Corporation. The current firm producing the equipment is CNH Global, using the brands Case CE and Case IH. (the manufacturing companies in the US & elsewhere are called CNH Österreich, CNH US etc, though the brands Case CE & Case IH are used globally). I'm trying to get these articles to explain this. - DocendoDiscimus 18:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

hi, sorry about editing your user page - clearly not intended. What's necessary now is a further explanation of the products CNH makes under these brands. I think though that needs more of an expert than me.. Still cleaning up. Slowly. DocendoDiscimus 18:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Redford

Hiya. Comma was my mistake; fixed it to a period. The paragraph as previously written had had a grammatical error that I corrected; no biggie.

Narration is generally listed under a filmography's actor credits in reference books, IMDb, etc., which usually have separate filmographies for films a person has directed, and films a person has produced. Other reference books lump everything together, but will say something like "Films (as actor unless otherwise specified)" and then say, for example, "Ordinary People (director, producer only)" or "The Milagro Beanfield War" (also director, producer). Meant no offense -- just trying to clarify that this isn't a complete filmography, as "Filmography" alone would say. -- Tenebrae 04:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Many of the incomplete filmographies that I have seen on Wikipedia are listed as one of these:

• Partial filmography 328
• Filmography (partial) 4
• Incomplete filmography 3

WikiDon 04:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure "Filmography (partial)" is clearer than "Filmography (as actor)". Would "Filmography (as actor/narrator) be better? Also, while there are easily-looked-up general standards for Wiki, I don't think anyone running it says subheads can't be adjusted or tweaked as necessary for clarity. "It's always been done that way" isn't necessarily a productive response.

Don't want to get into a fight or spend more time on this. I would only suggest that we all strive for accuracy above all.

I'm glad you're watching the Redford section so carefully -- he's a genuine arist and deserves attention -- and that I was able to fix the misspelled title/link for Bagger Vance. -- Tenebrae 05:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't know that Wikipedia should become a full filmography, listing every film, but should list high points, exceptional films, or ones that shaped, or push a performer in a certain direction.

As for watching Mr. Redford, I admire and respect him for his work outside of acting more than for that in it. He and Mr. Newman's charity work impress me more than any part in any movie. Not that I don’t like most of their performances, and, Mr. Redford maybe a better director/producer than an actor. I wish that more actors would lead their private lives in such a manner. User:WikiDon

I'm with ya there....

Highlights aren't a bad idea, since full filmographies are readily available elsewhere. The filmography currently there seems like a complete acting filmography, so whatever the general consensus is, I'd only suggest the subhead accurately reflect it. Cheers and best wishes -- Tenebrae 07:08, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

John Wayne

Why did you remove marion i put for John Wayne ,Now your Fan of hstory.So am i. Please notice that john waynes real name at birth was Marion and he never legaly changed it , i am a huge wayne fan and want it to be as accurate as possibl. Thank You. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.172.48.138 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Please be aware that I too have reversed your changes to the John Wayne article. If you have evidence that his name was something other than what is in the article, please WP:CITE source(s) so others can check your work. Best regards, Hall Monitor 23:24, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, sorry about that. I wrote first, and then looked at the article and the anon's talk page. -- Mwanner | Talk 19:21, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Skipanon

The source for the Skipanon River article is a pdf doc at [6]. It's a shame-- a newbie has put a lot of work into using this text, probably thinks it's not copyrighted. If it was shorter, and if I knew anything about the subject, I might have offered to help with a rewrite. -- Mwanner | Talk 18:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Hard to say. He was determined enough to put a lot of work in on this-- maybe he'll take the bit between his teeth and go to work on it. In a lot of ways, it's better we caught it now than after he'd created half a dozen copyvio articles. You could try saying "Don't take it too hard", though I've never managed to craft something that didn't sound slightly condescending. -- Mwanner | Talk 19:12, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Lists

Cite your source.

All you really have to do is to look at the majority of city articles on wikipedia and see that most of them are in the paragraph format, not in list format. See the wikipedia featured articles of Louisville, Kentucky and San Jose, California as examples. As a matter of fact, if I recall correctly, during the voting of the Louisville article for featured status, one of the major comments was to reduce the number of lists in the article and write out sections in prose format. Other major city pages to check out are Washington, D.C., Phoenix, Arizona, and Portland, Oregon, to mention just a few. Dr. Cash 20:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I do not appreciate the personal attacks and defamation on my character. That was unnecessary and unacceptable, period. I never intended to start a flame war over this.

No, I did not do any scientific study on how many pages include the sister cities info in prose vs. list format. But it does not surprise me that most of the city articles are in list format, since it appears that many city articles start with lots of information in a list format as random users start adding things to a list on the page. But the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, in particular, the section concerning embedded lists, prefers prose format over list format. Granted, there can be some exceptions to this rule, particular in the case of long lists, but recent featured article candidate discussions seem to prefer the prose format for most things in the city articles: Louisville, San Jose, and Seattle. Though, admittedly, there is some interesting debate on the issue in the Seattle discussion. Though the more recent (July 2005) Louisville debate ended with the consensus for the sister cities info in a prose format. Dr. Cash 17:49, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I do not have a problem with your statistical proof. You did some research into the matter, and it's interesting and makes some interesting observations. What I have a problem with is the way you stated it, which was clearly a personal attack against me and unacceptable. I have no problem if you want to put that part back, but I do have a problem if you want to put the part back that attacks me personally. The flames are inappropriate for that talk page and should not be tolerated. Dr. Cash 20:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

reply

No it didn't, check the diff. thanks - Martin 16:49, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

truck-corp-stub

Great, thanks! There is approx 350 stubs left in auto-stub, will try to sort through them as soon as part-auto-stub and org-auto-stub are approved. Bjelleklang - talk 09:28, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, my bad. Thought there was an additional truck-stub category. Have already transferred some of the auto stubs to truck-stub, as well as auto-corp-stub. Bjelleklang - talk 09:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Clarification

hi wikidon, the reason i removed Federer's mother's birthplace is because i think that mentioning that his father met her while on a business trip to South Africa was sufficient. unless you mention at least the town she was born in, then just saying that she's South African-born is, i think, unnecesary. (almost borders on unintentional bigotry) no hard feelings, though. just a minor edit. by the way, i've heard beautiful things about New Mexico. hope one day i can go to taos. Sincerely, ~ Anonimo

Bogie and Bacall

His public pet name for her was "Baby", both talking to her and about her. Check out this contemporary reference, for example: [7] I can tell you more about the dialogue of that cartoon, if you're interested. :) Wahkeenah 03:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Skipanon

Hope this is the proper place to talk? You requested a clean-up of Skipanon River. I've read the links and talked with Mwanner on possible © issues. Are there other style problems with it? It's my first attempt, so I may be missing things. Thanks.

LH --71.111.112.245 11:49, 6 November 2005 (UTC) (formerly known as 71.111.146.208)

Dunedin

Sorry i was unaware of the vandalism. I just turned up at the page and noticed some things that i could fix, i had never seen the page before so i couldn't notice the vandalism. Swarve 22:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Dawson Creek, British Columbia

I have opened a peer review of the Dawson Creek, British Columbia article at Wikipedia:Peer review/Dawson Creek, British Columbia/archive1. I would appreciate any comments you may have on the article. If you are able, I would like help with the reference formatting (not my strongest area). Also, is the prose clear and does it flow well? Is there anything I should expand on or that I am mising? Thank you for taking a look into this. --maclean25 04:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

306th Bomb Group

WikiDon, The 306th Bomb Group did not become the 306th Bomb Wing. The 306 BG inactivated in the 1950s and stayed inactive until redesignated the 306 FTG and reactivated at the Air Force Academy. Your history is incorrect and incomplete. I will not correct errors if you don't want the help, but I was just trying to make sure the true story of the 306th Bomb Group was told. Chris

Help

WikiDon, please review my edits to pre-Code (movies) and tell me if you believe that they are unworthy of being posted. The Irish mob (Jtdirl, Demiurge, Ali-oops, and Djegan) is again colluding to censor (ironically) a page about censorship. Everything I posted (under Rms125a@hotmail.com) is factual and based on the truth, a truth they evidently do not want posted because they find it disagreeable. They don't even review line by line, just revert and give boiler plate responses.

Thanks!! Rms125a@hotmail.com (I am not logging in now, although I did previously because Jtdirl blocked me on two different IPs and I am sufficiently computer illiterate to think that if I log in, the block might recur. Either that or he only blocked me for a very brief period, which doesn't sound like him).

Sources for Harry James and Chassis knock-down

Hello, good work on Harry James, and thanks for the contribution. However, you did not provide any references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Can you list in the article any websites, books, or other sources that will allow people to verify the content in Harry James? You can simply add links, preferably as the inline citations, or see citation templates for different citation methods. Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 13:26, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, me again :-) I noticed that you wrote Chassis knock-down, which would also greatly benefit from some references (not least to verify that this is a term with some currency). Thanks! Lupin|talk|popups 03:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)