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The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

rmv - unsourced not a venue to publish specific schedules. KVPY article which you just reverted do not have any citation in the result Declaration section.

there is no source that support what is written. therefore i think that such content might be misleading.

I'm sorry about that, I'll remove the warning from your talk page. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 22:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

trout Self-trout I made a mistake.

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Excellent Work! Jebcubed (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

P-40 variants

      • I am extremely disappointed with your recent changes to the P-40 Variants page and the manner in which this was done. LankhmarJoe (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I had good reasons for what I did. While the original article did have an abundance of sources, it was written as if it were about operational history, with minimal info about the indevidual variants themselves. Also, the original article failed to mention several variants including the P-40P and P-40Q. I changed this article to a true variants article. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 17:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Please take a page from your own book. YOU DO NOT OWN THAT ARTICLE EITHER. My understanding of Wikipedia policies is that major changes are normally preceded by discussions with an aim toward achieving consensus. As far as I'm concerned your change was implemented on an almost clandestine basis with a small mention at the bottom of the talk page three days before a total redesign of the page was implemented, which by the way included several errors including the page title.
As for the content of the article- the emphasis was not on development history since this information was already on the main P-40 page. I did intend to later add more development history as time allowed, but I thought the actual operational differences between types were what was most missing, again using the Spitfire and FW 190 variant pages as a guideline. The page also emphasized "mass-produced combat variants" as it says on the top of the page, because I felt these were the most significant interest to readers of Wikipedia many of whom have an interest in the combat history. The article was not complete, but it contained the most accurate data on numerous points that are often incorrectly reported about the various subtypes and relied on the most current available sources.
Differences on such matters as the emphasis of the article could and should have been resolved before the page was vandalized. LankhmarJoe (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)


LankhmarJoe (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I know that I don't own the article, but you are the one acting as if you own it, as you reverted the redesign claiming I vandalized the page. I used the North American P-51 Mustang variants article as a guideline. As if you focus only on the mass-produced combat variants and cut out the experimental ones, you leave out a lot of great encyclopedic content. Why in your right mind would you do that? Why would you leave out the experimental variants?
Mass produced combat variants were emphasized because those are the variants people are the most interested in. Giving minor variants that did not see combat or were not even produced the same weight as major combat variants is confusing to the reader.
However, that is irrelevant to this discussion. If your issue with the page was the lack of experimental or minor variants you could have easily 1) added them yourself to the existing page, or 2) put in a note or a tag on the page or in the talk page requesting this data be added, and there wouldn't have been any dispute whatsoever. Are you really unable to grasp why deleting an entire (long, detailed, carefully sourced) page that has been actively edited all year and replacing it in it's entirety without any genuine notification to the other editors active on the page would be acceptable? Do you sincerely believe that is in synch with Wikipedia culture of collaboration and mutual respect? I would call this a classic example of uw-delete "Removal of content without adequate explanation" at a bare minimum. I didn't delete any work- I restored the page that had been removed. Your page is something from your sandbox where it still resides- which has only had cursory review by two editors who as far as I know have never been involved in any of the P-40 pages. You made a mistake in replacing the existing content without really reviewing it. Your new content also contained several errors but that is a secondary issue. At this point you need to recognize your mistake in replacing the page outright and then we can begin moving toward a reasonable resolution of the dispute. LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I also noticed that your version of the page lacked sources, something mentioned in the (brief!) review. I suspect that it's because a lot of your data probably comes from a small number of older books which were probably not up to date. There have been a great deal of very persistent mistakes repeated over and over about this particular aircraft, and you need quite a few sources and preferably relatively current ones (a major new source was just released in November for example) in order to do justice to this subject. LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:41, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

P.S. The Spitfire and Fw 190 variants articles focus on the experimental models too. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 01:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

So if I found an omission of a few variants they neglected to include should I delete the whole page and replace it with a completely different one? LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:21, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
No, you improve it, if you need to "delete" the page and write a new one, than it's ok to do so, but bring it up on the wikiproject first. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 16:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


Please do not edit the variants page any more I am going to dispute resolution LankhmarJoe (talk) 04:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
I have every right to contribute, and again, a lot of your "operations" info was not relevant or in the wrong section. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 15:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018

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Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards

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Testing Signature

Test. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 19:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
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  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
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Arbitration

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The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019

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17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Your username

It's a bit odd, by your username apparently is in violation of our policies. I might be wrong, but I and many others view all cap users as a representatives of a specific organization. I'm however aware that you were editing under this name for 2 years, and perhaps nobody raised a concern, but let me know if you won't mind to change a username since its very confusing for me and many others. Thanks.--Biografer (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

@Biografer: Thank you for pointing it out. According to the article, however, the Free Trade Area of the Americas is a proposed trade agreement, not an organization. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 18:31, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm, what does FTAA have to do with your username?--Biografer (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
The french abbreviation is ZLÉA. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 18:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Not that I demand on the username change, but I don't think it will be only me who will see a problem with it in a near future. And yes, while it is maybe not an organization, it still might fall into username violation. For example, you might be a person who proposed the agreement, that automatically will result in COI. :(--Biografer (talk) 18:48, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I understand what you're trying to say, but my username does have something to do with me, if it's changed, it will most likely be minor. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 19:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

magical 39kg driver!

any chance you'll fix the obvious ever then?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I see no error, such info, if true, would not even be relevant in the article. If you feel otherwise, please source your info. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 14:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


"849 kg (1,872 lb) dry and 888 kg (1,958 lb) with driver ballast"

Do you even math? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


Ah my bad, thought it said driver AND ballast LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Just don't vandalize, whether information is wrong or not, we appreciate improvements, not vandalism. If you see wrong information, fix it, if you can't fix it, notify others on the talk page. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 14:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Roger that. Never noticed a talk section until today! Me thinks I need glasses! haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.64.108 (talk) 14:37, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Is the name that is there the correct one? It's not, according to this page, but maybe I misunderstood. I am concerned, though, that no reference is provided, so people can basically say what they want. ubiquity (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry if what I reverted was not vandalism. If you can source the name, there should be no more confusion in the future. - ZLEA Talk\Contribs 21:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

21:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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