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Constantine Tzechanis

Please before assuming anything about anyone's ethnicity you'd better check non-partisan (especially academic) sources.Alexikoua (talk) 21:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

You too [1] Alexikoua and please don't make OR deductions based on long lists that are just lists.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 11:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Skënder Muço

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

AE

Please see my comment here. T. Canens (talk) 02:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Explanation needed on List of Albanian Grand Viziers

You need to explain why this article should be speedy deleted [[2]] and your note here to the article's creator [[3]] seems also unexplainable.Alexikoua (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

CSD A10 about List of Ottoman Grand Viziers(the explanation you seek is on the tag, which you should have already read) and the message is automated so if you think it's unexplainable you may start a discussion and explain why you consider the automated messages unexplainable. Alexikoua it would be prudent not to make comments about which motives can be easily attributed.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Very weird answer: CSD A10 Wikipedia:CSD#A10: Actually I invite you to read the article's talk page, since what you claim is completely non-existent.Alexikoua (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Alexikoua when you tag an article as CSD A10 you have to also add the relevant article which the tagged one duplicates. I invite you to read CSD A10 and not label it as non-existent. It would be prudent not to make again comments about CSD policy without having read its contents.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
This explanation doesn't apply here: since you added this tag please participate in the discussion.Alexikoua (talk) 15:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Zjarri, Could you help me on Gazeta 55, i want to send it to DYK, i allready contacted Fahir Ballhiu and they would help me finding some sources! --Vinie007 16:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Diff

Can you produce the diff where you reported Kedadi? Athenean (talk) 06:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I can't produce the diff I reported you too, but for both reports you can ask the Wordsmith or do you think that he just happened to see both yours and kedadi's violation? --— ZjarriRrethues — talk 06:49, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I will ask him. What's with the sarcasm and nastyness btw? I'm just asking a simple question. Athenean (talk) 20:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, I would think it's obvious that a treatise on architecture is not an appropriate source on the ancestry of a figure of the Greek War of Independence. I really don't appreciate how you seek to portray every single edit of mine as "problematic". Athenean (talk) 20:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Then explain your edits because the unexplained deletion of sources is considered problematic. Btw that's not argument making the source inappropriate. It also would be prudent not label comments of other users as nasty.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
The source is grossly inappropriate and you know it. It is a treatise on architecture for crying out loud. Is the rest of your post a threat of some sort ("it would be prudent...")? I notice you do that a lot. It's not particularly conducive to a positive atmosphere and doesn't come across as particularly civil. I can't ask a simple question without getting sarcasm and veiled threats it seems. Athenean (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
There's a very official way to warn users about their edits and if I wanted to warn you about your edits I would be doing that, so please don't attribute motives to me.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 17:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hodo Sokoli

RlevseTalk 12:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Checkuser

Look, I'm not going to continue this debate on the CU page, because the admins there will probably soon banhammer anybody who's still talking there. I'll tell you just once, you're not looking good there. And you can repeat your claim about "user agents" another million times if you want, it won't make it truer. You are wrong, period. I've discussed stuff with checkusers often enough to understand what they mean.Fut.Perf. 22:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

No more comments at least by me on that SPI. The admins will probably deal with it--— ZjarriRrethues — talk22:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Interaction ban

Under the authority of WP:ARBMAC#Discretionary sanctions, and perthis AE thread, you are banned from directly interacting with or commenting on Athenean, broadly construed, anywhere on Wikipedia for 3 months. Further, please be warned that it is not acceptable to file largely inactionable AE requests or to make factually inaccurate statements within them. Repeated infractions may result in sanctions, up to and including a ban from AE altogether. T. Canens (talk) 14:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Sources

Udhëheqës të verbër! Ju tendosje mushkonjën por kapërdini devenë (Mateu 23:24).

You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel (Matthew 23:24).

Mate, you accuse me about not sticking to sources provided in the Arbereshe article, but at the same time you just deleted the whole reference provided by a user regarding Arbereshe having as related ethnic group the Arvanites, and not the Shqiptars (Albanians).Periptero (talk) 01:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

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Request reason:

I didn't interact with him personally per my interaction, I was editing the article and replying to Alexikoua and he joined later, while there was no personal interaction. If I'm editing an article and he decides to edit it to later if I don't interact with him I'm not responsible for any violation --— ZjarriRrethues — talk08:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You cannot appeal this block in this way. See WP:AEBLOCK. Sandstein 14:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Sorry to intervene but this is 'clear' violation of Wikipedia:Interaction_ban: undo each other's edits to any page (whether by use of the revert function or by other means).. The interaction ban was one sided (against Zjarri.) and he reverted Athenean. Alexikoua (talk) 10:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I didn't know that and he could have left me a message to self-revert myself.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk10:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Can someone bring a Zjarri's diff for which he was blocked? I really don't understand this block.--Sulmues (talk) 13:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC) Zjarri should be under an interaction ban with Athenean to get blocked for breaking this ban, is that the case, or is this block a mistake? --Sulmues (talk) 13:32, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
The diffs are right in the block reason - [4] reverting [5]; the interaction ban - see #Interaction ban, a few sections above on this page. T. Canens (talk) 21:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation, but can you please specify better what this interaction ban entails exactly, so that Zjarri may fully understand the ban and not risk to be blocked in the future? He is a very valuable and respected member of wp:WikiProject Albania: we are three-four members and truly need one another to build together good articles. "Broadly construed" has virtually no limits, and each sysop can basically block Zjarri for every article that he edits, because Zjarri and Athenean virtually edit on many common articles, and in general Athenean edits in many Albanian articles, we are extremely lucky to have him give us a hand, but how is Zjarri supposed to know what he should do? Is he supposed to not edit directly after Athenean? Is he supposed to not participate in the same thread of talk pages? Clarifications would be very helpful so that Wikipedia doesn't risk to miss Zjarri's contributions. Thank you again for your help! --Sulmues(talk) 00:39, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
WP:Interaction ban sums it up quite well. T. Canens (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I got it. May I suggest that in the future when you as an admin apply a ban to a user such asthis you also point to the policy like you just did, rather than mention a "broadly construed"? Actually the policy is very clear, but very recent (it started just a month ago), so Zjarri couldn't have known it, hence this block is the result of his lack of knowledge of the policy and of your failure to communicate the ban well by linking it to the policy, wouldn't you think? In addition, can everyone just make up a policy like this? I see that the user who wrote it is not even a sysop.--Sulmues (talk) 00:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
There's also WP:IBAN - which is actual policy, to which I just redirected WP:Interaction ban.T. Canens (talk) 03:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Zjarri: The last time I kindly asked you to revert yourself for inappropriate editting the answer was:[[6]] 'do it yourself'.Alexikoua (talk) 09:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Toponym Commissions

I don't know what sort of material you have gathered, but it would IMO be best to write these articles on a per country basis. Unless you have a good number of quality sources examining the phenomenon as a whole in the Balkans, best not try to synthesize an article on your own. Either way, sub-articles dedicated to each country would be created somewhere along the line, so best to start with them.Constantine 13:12, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Fruiless reporting

I suggest you should adopt a less extreme and edit warring nature in future. In general proposing the indef ban of users that contributed to Albanian related articles and upgraded their quality with several gas and dyks proves that you ignore the basic pillars of this project.Alexikoua(talk) 09:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I've never been blocked for edit-warring or even came close to edit-warring, so the verdict is on our block logs.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk09:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I was commenting on your fruitless reports against me (unfortunately you can't explain that). Also as long as you are active here (March) I've not the slightest block (considering this is your first account here) Alexikoua (talk) 09:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Then please don't make comments about nonexistent cases of edit-warring.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk09:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I hoped this unexplained activity on reporting me continuously (and fruitlessly) from your very start in wiki might had an explanation.Alexikoua (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't report you from the very start and you were sanctioned about three months ago so you might want to find the reasons there so enough said(meaning archive) and please don't make comments about nonexistent cases of edit-warring.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk10:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
There is this: [[7]] (6 days since account creation). And a restriction isn't a block as you claim (which I've completely respected in 'my' case).Alexikoua (talk) 10:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
I didn't say that it was a block and that's not a report started by me. Btw I let you reply before archiving so now I'll proceed.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk10:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Scan

By the way, can I scan the page of Inalcik, and you post it at Qeparo as evidence, to remove the verify tag? Do you have an e-mail, so I can send you the jpg? Beserks (talk) 09:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Use the "E-mail this user" option on the toolbox, then I'll forward back to you the message so you can see my email and sent me the page.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I have only:

   * What links here
   * Related changes
   * User contributions
   * Logs
   * Upload file
   * Special pages
   * Permanent link. Beserks (talk) 10:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Zef Jubani

-- Cirt (talk) 18:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Stefë Zurani & Ndoc Nikaj

Little articles? [8]. I just did Jean-Claude Faveyrial. --Sulmues (talk) 12:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll start Ndoc Nikaj.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 15:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Davud Pasha

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Me mire te ta japi nje i joti sesa bota.

The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Congratulations for reaching the 25 DYK milestone. May I remind you that as the Albanian pioneer of the DYK you are closer than anybody else to doubling that? Thank you for being around and for making our country appear on the DYK main page of Wikipedia! Proud to have you in the Albanian wikiproject. Sulmues (talk) 19:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

You are on ANI.

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --WhiteWriter speaks 20:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Please note that I have removed your improper use of an editors previous account name from the page edit history at Talk:Kosovo#Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija -like redirects. I not only Rev/Deleted the original post, but also the subsequent correction by you (since the diff showed what you had changed from as well as to). I have since restored your most recent version of your post to the page. Since you did make the change noted above I am not going to sanction this instance per AGF, but this I suggest is the only time - if you are to use another editors previous identity, and where that identity relates to their real life name, you may expect a sanction. Please be more careful in future. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
I will be more careful in the future.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Taron Saharyan

Please see translation of more extremist and racist remarks by one editor here [9].  Anastasia Bukhantseva  01:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

AE request

Per your request on IRC, I am clarifying that, if you have good cause to believe that Athenean (talk · contribs) is hounding your edits or otherwise improperly taking advantage of the interaction ban, you may file one (1) AE request against him limited to this issue only, under the normal exception for necessary and legitimate dispute resolution; in the course of making such request, you may make one (1) post at Athenean's talk page solely for the purpose of informing them of said request. While said AE request is pending, your interaction ban remains in force; for instance, you may not interact with, or comment on, Athenean anywhere on Wikipedia except the section of WP:AE devoted to your request, and all other provisions in WP:IBAN still apply. However, you are warned that if, after review, uninvolved administrators determine that the complaint is frivolous or filed in bad faith, you may be sanctioned at the discretion of the reviewing administrator for violating your interaction ban. T. Canens (talk) 22:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Aristotelis Goumas

Can we get agreement on the title and terminology, at least, at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#title and content of an article related to Aristotelis Goumas? Uncle G (talk) 20:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I always thought that we can reach an agreement on the issue. By tomorrow you'll have my input and suggestions.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 20:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Endless campaign of misinformation

I would appreciate if you stop the misinformation capaign you lead against me by propagating that I disagreed with the deletion of the Greek wiki article 'Αλβανικός Εθνικισμός'. I suggest you revert the specific comment.Alexikoua (talk) 20:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Your keep vote was the only keep vote and btw I've already given you the necessary and required per policy notice that I don't you want to leave messages on my talkpage.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:19, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Albanian changes

Thanks for your changes to the Albanian section of Indo-European vocabulary.

I have a few questions about some of the additions. In particular, the words that are added need to be

  1. Cognate with the PIE roots in question
  2. Inherited words (e.g. not borrowed through Latin)

All the Albanian words that I added originally came from Pokorny, and satisfy these criteria.

  • I strongly suspect that verë "spring" is borrowed from Latin; likewise dhomë.
  • I suspect that at "father" is not cognate with *pH₂tér- (e.g. you would not expect loss of p- in Albanian); probably instead it's cognate with (possibly borrowed from) atta ("father" in Gothic).
  • Similarly një (one) is questionable because I don't think you'd expect loss of the initial oi-. In addition, this is such a basic word that it's unlike Pokorny would have missed it if it were truly cognate.
  • For grurë do you have an etymology of this word?

Thanks, Ben

It might help Albanian inherited lexicon online or Demiraj book in German Aigest (talk) 09:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
[10] regarding grurë and një. Verë is in p.47 if it is accessible to you. Verë in Albanian means both wine and summer, while its derivative is pranverë(pran means near)--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 19:16, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks. grurë is on p. 44 and it definitely belongs. verë if this is the same word for "wine" does not belong, as it isn't derived from the PIE word for "spring" that it's placed under. një I can't find in the accessible portions; can you quote the relevant section? Benwing (talk) 03:56, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
[11] it should be accessible.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Cultural Monuments of Albania

Hi, since you speak Albanian, you may be able to help me with the articles listed in Cultural Monument of Albania. Many of the articles have names that aren't suitable as article titles in English wikipedia. Most readers don't speak Albanian (neither do I), so "Rrënojat e Kishës" doesn't mean much to them. The translation ("church ruins") isn't specific, so we need new titles. I'm working through them, but I stumbled on some that are too difficult for Google Translate, e.g. "Kisha e Shpërfytyrimit", "Kisha e Ungjillizimt", "Xhamia e Telelkave", etc. Do you have suggestions for English translations for those? Markussep Talk 10:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Zaharia & al

Let's work on the noble families. They are extremely necessary for Skanderbeg and the Leeague of Lezhe. Skanderbeg has way too many sources and being a complex article, warrants other good articles. Please put the image, and I'll expand the article.--Sulmuesi (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

There are:

--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 00:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

email

Please read your email.--Sulmuesi (talk) 23:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Good source about the Ottoman registers and I think that I've found a similar one from the University of Ankara.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 00:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Population of Athens during the Ottoman period

The coverage of the Ottoman period in the demographics section is too low and I added some basic info but there should be more[12], so please look for more sources if you can.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't have sources about demographics of Athens, now. I'll tell you when I would find such sources. Maybe I can find Thessaloniki's. See you. Takabeg (talk) 03:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
What article? --Vinie007 17:10, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


Could you throw a eye on Fall of communism in Albania? --Vinie007 17:26, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

==I found something interesting would you have a look at this? Tks

http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/3a5ef/ --66.131.205.127 (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

maps

hey. i got the maps scanned. if you want to email me ill send you them. i just put in an email here but im not sure how to send other users emails. ill be happy to send you the maps. :-) --Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 22:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I sent you an email, so you should be able to send me those maps.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thanks a lot. i sent you the maps.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 01:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
The most important one i think is the fifth one with subtitle Kufijte maksimale te shtetit shqiptar te Skenderbeut. if possible, something like this:[13]. ill send you hodgkinsons map too for the roads.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 01:46, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Once we get the basics, we could get to identifying where the battles occurred and labeling them on the map too.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 01:53, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you both. --Sulmuesi (talk) 23:40, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Can you please upload this map? Antid. found it somewhere in the talk page. --Sulmuesi (talk) 15:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

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Greeks in Albania

Well I'm more content with this version (as of midnight Tirana time) as long as it's clear that the statistics are widely disputed. Spyenson (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, a small note will be sufficient until April, when we'll get official EU funded numbers. Btw did you check that list about the notable people? Some are from Chicago, others from Athens, others are half-Greek half-Albanian and others are from families that moved out of Albania 2 generations before their birth.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Re-open discussion

Please see what you could do at this one? I will support you, Maybe Alps (Balkan) will work --Vinie007 18:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

A centralized discussion is needed about all relative issues.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Azem Hajdari

Maybe you can help at article of Azem Hajdari --Vinie007 13:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey

Don't feed the troll. I am guilty of doing this, but I will try and hold myself back.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 21:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi there

And thanks for welcoming me. There is a dire need for the Albania articles to have references. I'll try to actually make sure that people don't remove the existing ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Besokontrollo (talkcontribs) 23:31, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Kjo eshte ndoshta pergjigja e dyte qe marr nga perdorues i ri nga Shqiperia, prandaj faleminderit shume.(This is probably the second reply I get from a new user from Albania, so thanks a lot.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I have several books in hard copy. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "sharing" sources. Besokontrollo (talk) 05:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Could you make a list of the Albanian history/culture/politics/geography related ones and add it to the talkpage of WikiProject Albania.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 19:48, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Anthony Athanas

Hello! Your submission of Anthony Athanas at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 11:07, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Anthony Athanas

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Devollite Pottery

If you think you can make some new content out of that, go ahead -- but I had to purge the Micsokoli-sourced stuff. DS (talk) 23:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Now it can actually become a DYK.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Religion of Himariots

I kindly ask your consent to add the following sourced text to the article Himarre:

Himariots which adhered to Christian Orthodox and Catholic faith were partly converted to Islam after final defeat of Albanians which happened after the death of Scanderbeg their national in 1478.Individual conversion to Islam were recorded in beginning of 16th century and the phenomena of crypto-Christianity appeared, particularly in villages of Fterre ,Corraj e Vuno according to Ottoman registers of 1583.One of most common acceptable reason of an individual abjuring Christianity was to enable him to enter the Turkish army. This was the case of Ajaz Pasha ,Himarriot with extraordinary career who became Grand Vezir in Ottoman government send latter by Sultan to put down the revolt of Himariots of 1537. Due to efforts of several Basilian missions send by Rome since 1682 with Monks ancestral of region and knowledge of Albanian language, monks were prevalently Albanians in origin and for them was to return in the same land their ancestors left behind , Himarre was not entirely converted to Islam.

Reference : Returning Home to Rome - The Basilian Monks of Grottaferrata in Albania By Ines Angeli Murzaku —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.220.19 (talk) 15:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Contest

Please help me keep this article Sahit Muja. --Vinie007 17:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

cu on Pelasgon

In case you ask for a cu, plz do it in wiki, not in irc, since other users may have a good number of arguments to present too.Alexikoua (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I won't ask for a CU at the moment because there are no CUs available.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Presence of Albanians

Please contribute here. Maybe Vinie07 can create a map based on that book Aigest (talk) 09:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Elsie

Check this very good sources [14] --Vinie007 16:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

F.ex. for Skanderbeg --Vinie007 16:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Breach of Wiki Rules

By sending biased and non neutral messages to editors who will (supposedly) back up you POV, you breached WP:CANVAS. For more, you may read "Inappropriate notification" section. Although you already know this, it may be vise to let you know that this kind of wiki behavior, is not accepted. Thanks, and Happy new Year! --WhiteWriter speaks 15:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

CANVAS isn't accepted, notifying users about subjects they edit regularly about sudden attempts to override consensus is.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Saliu

Maybe we can rewrite article of Sali Berisha, an important figure in Democratic Albania! --Vinie007 15:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Openend Mic Sokoli and Bardhok Biba, can you check grammar? --Vinie007 10:20, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Albert Einstein Albanian passport discussion, please respond --Vinie007 14:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Albanian Revolt of 1912

Article does not have to be deleted if you want to expand it. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Dacia scope clarifications and disclaimer

Hello! Given the potential for conflict and suspicions raised by the WikiProject Dacia , I added an important notice for scope clarifications and disclaimer in the intro section. If interested and willing, please review and provide any feedaback and suggestions you may have. Thank a lot! --Codrin.B (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Your signature block

...seems quite familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is. Oh well. — BQZip01 — talk 08:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Me neither, although such a signature shows good taste.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Themistokli Gërmenji

Article does not have to be deleted if you want to expand it.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Antid. please csd your article as it is of a very low quality like the Albanian Revolt of 1912, Republic of Korçë etc. FutureP has told you not to deal with subjects, about which you don't possess the necessary knowledge.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
There is no need for that. If you believe that you have sources that contain different information, feel free to present them on the talk page of the article. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
I'll write another version to replace yours and I'll use modern reliable sources. Btw please don't label 1920 source as 2001 ones and use ref name parameters.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:43, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Zoupan

Hello Zjarri. I've checked only a few of his more recent Byzantine-related creations, most of his work is Serbian-related, and I don't know much there. So far, this is the only infraction I've come across. Do you mean that he has been removing sourced information for POV reasons in Albanian-related articles as well? Constantine 22:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

He was removing from Progon certain parts that didn't agree with his pov about the Principality of Arbër being a fabrication. He was also renaming certain Albanian bio articles.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey Zjarri, today i saw a documentary about Congress of Lushnjë on TVSH maybe we can start improve this article because now it is a mess. Maybe we first can make a list of battles, such as that of Kavajë an Tirana. --Vinie007 10:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

misleading edit summaries

This [15] is not a "cpe" (do you know what cpe stands for?). Don't use misleading edit summaries again. Athenean (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

It's a cpe from Albania.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
You obviously have no idea what a "copyedit" is. That's ok, I'll ascribe the use of incorrect edit summary to ignorance this time, rather than an intent to deceive. Athenean (talk) 21:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Themistokli Gërmenji DYK

Hi. There's a question for you here regarding Themistokli Gërmenji's DYK. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop

I am using photoshop now (trial) and want to ask you what files need attention, check this file for example Exmaple --Vinie007 13:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you can use this [16] --Vinie007 14:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Photo is fixed--Vinie007 21:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

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Sagudates

Hi. It is an old map indeed, and good effort with the article. Shame there isn;t much more to write, despite the fact that they lived on the Byzantine frontier for centuries ! I can surely change the map at some point soon, however, how do you know as to their exact location ?

Hxseek (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

also, if u don't mind, can u please comment here. Apparently, Athenean thinks I have been trying to "hijack" the article. Ha, the irony. [17]

Hxseek (talk) 05:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Gheg origin removed by Alexikoua

Mirë dita, Alexikoua i ka ek informatat e orizhinës e ghegave (Gheg)... Nemzag (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Po thot se ska source... Amë emni i shkrimtarit Pashko Vasa ësht aty edhe fjala : "from "referring to the verse found in the Homer's Iliad, "beyond the mountains of Akrokeronis, the land is inhabited by the Giants (Greek: γίγας; Latin: GIGAS)". Pro spo kuptôj psê i ka ek... A e nje ni admin ? Nemzag (talk) 14:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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AE report

[18]. Athenean (talk) 02:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Kruje

Hey Zjarri. Nice job with the expasion on the Kruja article. With a little work it could make it to GA. I'll be willing to help if you ever wanna do it. Just let me know.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 21:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I could expand the Name section and add some citations to the 2nd paragraph of the Medieval era. The lead needs to be rewritten too.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 20:22, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement

Under the authority of WP:ARBMAC, I am imposing a mutual interaction ban on you and Athenean (talk · contribs) as a reuslt of the AE request filed against you by the latter. You are forbidden from reverting their edits, editing their talk page (or any other part of their userspace) or from interacting with or referring to them anywhere on Wikipedia with the sole exception of filing a legitimate AE request against them or an appeal against this sanction. You are also to make all reasonable efforts to avoid articles where you know them to be active. Finally, you are cautioned that any future instances of disruption in the area of conflict by either you or Athenean may result in an indefinite topic ban for one or both parties. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Turkish Union of Xanthi

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:05, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Update

Update what, players or team ? --Vinie007 20:56, 26 March 2011 (UTC)1

Player caps and results.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Ok i will see what i can do, but the real man for this is User talk:Oltianruci. --Vinie007 09:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Zjarri, Can you please check Gent Strazimiri on spelling? Thanks --Vinie007 15:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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Granai

Sounds interesting, but I don't think he mentions him. Why do you ask?--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 17:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

[19] I found this though.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello, ZjarriRrethues. You have new messages at Talk:Dhimitër Frëngu.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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Zoupan

I apologise Zjarri, I didn´t intended to contrary you on the report, and I don´t know anything about Zoupan, I never meat him. But when I saw the edits in question, well, they are not really vandalism in its meaning. In some related article Bosnian Cyrillic I even coincidentally opened a discussion there today, and I noteced he has edited it before. I condemn nationalism, but some users have been confusing any mentioning of Serbia as nationalism (not saying you, but in general), and some Serbian editors have found themselfs in very hard possition to edit some articles. I´m not saying this doesn´t happend to others, on contrary, I for exemple tried to expand some articles on Kosovar or Albanian football, and just as exemple, I personally favour Kosovo national team and leagues admitionship in FIFA and UEFA regardless of being or not considered independent by all, or just some. But he seems to have been a bit ganged up on some articles. In the report what I mean with languages addition is that it is only needed to add a different language version when there is actual difference from the title, so that is why I said that there is no need to add Croatian, Bosnian or even Serbian latin, because the article title was already on those languages, but just Serbian Cyrillic. Seems that some users think that since Serbian Cyrilic is listed, the other languages should be as well, but that is not the case because they don´t write different letters...

Regarding SPI, did you checked if the IP is really him? I mean, it seems to be him, but have you confirmed it? FkpCascais (talk) 11:16, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I think that the Serbian vs. Bosnian vs. Croatian vs. Montenegrin ethnicity dispute shouldn't exist regarding medieval people. Of course there were families/people, who probably identified with only one ethnicity like Nemanja or Tvrtko but the rest were south Slavic rulers/families, which at the very most had a regional affiliation.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 11:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I understand what you mean, but in some cases, well, identities existed... FkpCascais (talk) 12:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Zoupan made a counter-report on you at ANI and also didn´t notified you (just as you didn´t him), so I am doing it instead. FkpCascais (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

New map

I just made a map. It's my first one so it may not be that great. What do you think? I'm planning to make more. (File:Albania invasions.jpg)--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 00:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

yeah theyre both mine. i dont the gmail one anymore though.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 22:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I've sent the reply earlier today on the gmail one, so please check it. Btw if you can send any more pages from Frasheri's work please email them.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Pershendetje Zjarri, do you know why This isn't updating? --Vinie007 09:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

for the review. I've fixed your concerns. ceranthor 19:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

And I think I've gotten the rest of them. Thanks again. ceranthor 20:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Balli Komberar

He Zjarri, i saw that you made 2 articles about battles involving the Balli Kombetar, maybe you can make an list of battles so i can help to and hopefully other people --Vinie007 16:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen a list of all villages in Albania? It is for the Villages of Albania Article --Vinie007 10:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Please see this discussion about move --Vinie007 18:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Aromanians

Yes Zjarri, this map on Aromanians is the official data according to the state and to recognized legal minority organizations of the state. However remember that this is a Linguistic Map and doesn't indicate anything else.

Aromanians are a recognized minority and their language has the official status in Municipality of Krusevo and rest area, please look related maps. [OFFICIAL STATE DATA]

Albanians is the known of course minority and their language spoken in more areas than what you can see in the map, with a simple drive in the country you will see it. Official 25% of the population speaks Albanian. [OFFICIAL STATE DATA]

Bulgarian is spoken widely in the southeastern province (there are estimated 60 to 150 thousands Bulgarian passport holders there. Officially 60 thousands, however bulgarian organization give different numbers. [OFFICIAL STATE DATA]

Shopi is another special group of people, not entirely Bulgarian but not either Macedonian, the area they live is called Shopluk (check related maps) and they speak a Bulgarian dilact. There is not any official research about Shopi of the state. But if you live in Macedonia, you will know of course Shopi from the daily speaks and the anecdotes. According to the data of legal recognized organizations for minorities, the linguistic minority is as shown, there is another Shopi minority also in the borders of Serbia and Bulgaria. However the Shopi of Bulgaria, has already adopt the Bulgarian language as is today, due to education and stability of the state in the last years. [DATA FROM LEGAL RECOGNIZED ORGANIZATION]

Roma is also another recognized minority with an almost total majority in the Šuto Orizari, the area if officially billigual. Also there is a Roma elected minister in a high position of the state. [OFFICIAL STATE DATA] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meliniki (talkcontribs) 11:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Esad Mekuli

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Speedy deletion tag

You put a tag on a page that was still being expanded Presidents of Ghana. The article had all the requirements for it to be a great article on Wikipedia. It had the tag "in use" and was less than 15 minutes old yet you tagged it for deletion. I also used to make the same mistake when I first came to WP, please check the time line that an article has existed before you tag it. I have written over 200 articles and this is the first time I have experienced something like this. Would you like that I stop what I am doing? Please remove the tag. --CrossTempleJay (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

The subject would still be an A10 i.e it would duplicate John Atta Mills and its lead would be another version of President of Ghana and List of heads of state of Ghana.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I would be grateful if you would reply my message. By the way you changed the tag but did not remove it. Please John Mills is not the only president of Ghana as you can see I am starting other headings with other profiles of presidents. Once again please consider the tag else I may have to send it to other editors to look into the issue.--CrossTempleJay (talk) 16:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
You'd be still adding something that duplicates an existing topic. You can contest the speedy deletion and then I'll start an AfD, during which the community will decide about the article.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I've declined the speedy as the tag no longer fitted the article. You are free to try a different tag, or to prod or AfD it if you think fit. Peridon (talk) 19:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)