Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1992 Football League Second Division play-off Final/archive1

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The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 25 January 2021 [1].

1992 Football League Second Division play-off Final[edit]

Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some might say this match was the beginning of a new era in English football. A very rich man became a majority shareholder in an unfashionable yet historic club, convinced a Scottish footballing legend to come out of retirement to manage them, spent millions on players and got promoted into this new-fangled ventured called the Premier League. But they weren't finished. Three seasons later they were the champions of England. This isn't where the story began, and certainly not where ended, but it's a pivotal moment in the history of the most-watched football league on the planet, and something which is as unlikely as the Foxes winning the league.... As ever, my utmost attention will be paid to each and every comment, and as Cloughie said about disagreements: "We talk about it for twenty minutes and then we decide I was right." Thanks in advance for any and all interest in this candidate! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Images appear to be freely licensed (t · c) buidhe 23:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers!! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dweller[edit]

Big fat placeholder. I'll be bigly and fatly commenting here. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 23:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think in this particular article, you need to help the reader more with the tier names because everything changed in the course of the period covered by the article. I don't have strong suggestions how or where. It might be a paragraph in background? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, well the lead kicks off with ... gain promotion from the Football League Second Division, the second tier of English football, to the inaugural season of the Premier League ... so that places the Second Division and the Premier League immediately in the context of the English football league system (which is also linked in the main part of the article). I know what you mean if there's internal confusion, but I don't see that myself. I go to lengths to use "second tier" instead of division names where possible. The best place to discuss the league changes is really the much higher level 1991–92 Football League and 1992–93 Football League articles. Added link to Foundation of the Premier League. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I found a dreary Grauniad article which blathered on about it a bit, and crowbarred it in. I just hope it doesn't create more confusion than it purportedly alleviates... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks. I'll be back. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Dwellernator 2: Judgement Day. — Amakuru (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from WA8MTWAYC[edit]

Ugh, I don't like the outcome of the match, but this article is great. Some comments from me.

"took part in play-off semi-finals" --> took part in the play-off semi-finals?
It works either way, I find in BritEng without the the is fine. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"the regular 1991–92 season in fourth" wrong link there
Gah, fixed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"In the 29th minute, Wright scored" --> Tommy Wright as it's his first mention in the article.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Background/first half section: "second tier play-offs" (EFL Championship play-offs), "Wembley Stadium", "Third Division", "Liverpool", "Scotland international", "manager" and "throw-in" could/should be linked.
Done, done, done, done, done, done and done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Little declared that the play-off final" --> Brian Little as it's his first mention in the article.
Done, introduced him too. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe use the inflation templates for the amounts of £3 million, £5.5 million, and £1.1 million to see how much it all is in the current year?
Done so. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"at the club the following October" --> maybe specify that it's about October 1991, because the previous sentence is about the whole of 1991. It's also possible to specify which month Walker took over (in the previous sentence).
Reiterated same year. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"at Wembley and last league match" --> "at Wembley and his last league match"?
Reads okay to me as it stands. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"from Mills found" --> "from Gary Mills found" WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WA8MTWAYC thanks very much for your comments, I've addressed them and/or responded to them all above. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment please withdraw the nomination. The snarky back-channel emailing and biting has taken its toll, the establishment wins. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 23:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 05:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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