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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 00:06, 23 June 2008 [1].

Angus Lewis Macdonald[edit]

Self-nominator. I'm nominating this article for Featured Article status because I feel it meets the criteria and the editor who conferred Good Article status encouraged me to submit it. Bwark (talk) 20:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I suggest linking dates like "August 10, 1890" so they are formatted according to user preferences. Gary King (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • There is no requirement to link dates; as long as date linking and raw formatting of dates is internally consistent the article complies with MoS. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, given the nitpicky nature of the following:
Resolved nitpicks from Kakofonous (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Prose is quite excellent throughout, especially in the lead, except for the second paragraph of the "Early life and education" section. This bit is awash with repetition and rather choppy sentences; surely it could be spiced up a smidgen…
I've reworked the paragraph to improve the flow and eliminate needless repetition. Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Some considered him the best professor in the law school." Who is "some"?
I've eliminated this vague sentence. Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please check WP:MOSQUOTE; I see some issues with logical quotation throughout. This is one example: "He deplored what he called 'the loss of responsible government.'" Since the quoted phrase "the loss of responsible government" is not a full sentence in itself, the ending quotation mark should go outside the period.
I've fixed the punctuation in this example and will recheck all quotations to make sure they conform to MOS. Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "…Macdonald kept a key Liberal promise by bringing in Old Age Pensions for elderly people in need." Why capitalize "old age pensions"? The link and article do not.
I've removed the capital letters. Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He oversaw a massive increase in Canada's naval forces; played a key role in a political crisis that threatened to tear the Liberal government and the country apart and incurred the wrath of Mackenzie King, a political leader whom Macdonald grew to loathe." Awkward sentence—semicolon is odd here. I would suggest splitting the sentence, long as it is.
I've split the sentence up to make it more readable.Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--Kakofonous (talk) 23:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for these comments. They are very helpful. Bwark (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Current ref 32 "Se History of Federal RIdings" ... the publisher is given in the title (should be separate) and there is no last access date.
I think I've fixed this by using the cite web template. I actually copied the format from citation #5 from the article on Thomas Jefferson. I hope the citation now conforms to Wikipedia MOS. Bwark (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've eliminated this external link because I don't think it adds much if anything to the article. Bwark (talk) 19:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Otherwise sources look okay, and web links checked out with the link checker tool. Full disclosure, I'm the GA reviewer who encouraged the main editor to bring this to FAC. I'll try to get back to this shortly for a full reveiw. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Leaning support few picky prose issues (again, i know!)

Issues resolved, Ealdgyth - Talk 19:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Legal studies. The second paragraph, the connections between the sentences sometimes are a bit choppy, especially between the second and third sentence and third and fourth sentence. I'm not sure what the bit about the Harvard faculty has to do with the rest
I think I've fixed these problems. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any chance of combining the Legal studies and Professor of law sections? Chronologically they jump around, you might just combine them with the Civil service section and call it "Life before politics"?
I've created a new section "Life before politics" that is more chronologically sound. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • War service section, probably don't need to say "his own brother", "His brother" would do just as well.
I've eliminated that sentence. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section I think there is a punctuation error in the third sentence, shouldn't it be a comma after Highlanders and before leaving?
I've added the comma. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Early life and education section, the second paragraph, the fourth sentence seems choppy and unclear to me. I think it's the "even then" that throws me off.
I've eliminated the "even then" phrasing. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Provincial convention subsection, third paragraph, I suggest changing "delegates were to choose the party's new leader" to "delegates chose the party's new leader"
I've made a change to make this sentence more readable, but have still tried to preserve the chronology. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same section, sentence starting "there was little enthusiasm..." I think there should be a comma in front of however?
I've added the comma. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Liberal party leader, first paragraph, first sentence suggest removing the "to" before organize.
I've removed the unnecessary word. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Provincial premier section, I know you wikilinked CCF, but might spell it out for us non-Canadians? I assume it's a political party that isn't a Liberal and isn't a Conservative?
I've added the party's full name and identified it as socialist. Bwark (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aftermath section, first sentence, suggest changing to "sudden death proved disasterous"
I've fixed this. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just some small issues and suggestions. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for all these suggestions. They are a big help. Bwark (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I looked over this article's images in April and they generally appear to be in order. I did apparently miss one thing: Image:ForrestBuilding MS-Ref 3.14.jpg is basing the PD claim on the criterion of publication before 1950. Only comments regarding date of creation, however, are present. Do we have a source that confirms publication before 1950? Alternatively, the image indicates permission to use this image was granted 1.24.2008; if the University has released the image to us with a compatible license, we needn't worry about PD. Would it be possible to file that permission with an OTRS ticket? ЭLСОВВОLД talk 18:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Per this explanation, the University would not be considered a "state entity" and, thus, not subject to crown copyright. Thusly, creation (not publication) would indeed be the criterion. Concern so stricken. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 15:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - very well-written. — maclean 19:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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