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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 04:16, 23 October 2007.

Lee Smith (baseball)[edit]

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I think it meets the featured article criteria. Nishkid64 (talk) 07:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • What is "kmph"?
    • Kilometres per hour. I was not sure if that needed to be added as per the Manual of Style's guideline regarding US and metric designations. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "casted" not a word
  • "closing duties were shared by Smith, Willie Hernández and Bill Campbell" "Smith, Willie Hernández and Bill Campbell shared closing duties" is better.
  • A lot of stuff about the 1984 season that has nothing to do with Smith
  • "to the New York Mets in shocking fashion" POV
  • Ref #10 link 3 times in the same paragraph
    • I usually don't follow the convention of placing my references at the end of a paragraph. Is there any particular problem with placing the same ref 3 times in a single paragraph? Nishkid64 (talk) 21:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Smith saved 234 games by the end of 1989, Reardon had 266" I think a word would be better than a comma here.
  • "Lee Smith's single season National League record for saves was threatened after only a year – by Smith himself." "Smith threatened his own single season National League record for saves after only a year." is better and is threatened really the best word to use?
  • "record which" needs a comma
  • "he was tied by John Wetteland in June 1996 and Chad Cordero" "John Wetteland and Chad Cordero tied him in June 1996" is better
    • Sentence reads: "...until he was tied by John Wetteland in June 1996 and Chad Cordero in June 2005." I have reworded it to "...until John Wettleland and Chad Cordero tied him in June 1996 and June 2005, respectively." Nishkid64 (talk) 21:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he started 1995 even better." POV
  • Is career-worsts a word?
    • It's often used in sports writing. "Career-low" would not make sense because a higher ERA is worse. It would have to be career-high, but that would not make any sense. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "much speculation" "a lot of speculation" is better
  • ", if the candidate less than 5%, that would end eligibility" "the candidate receiving less than 5% would end eligibility" is better
    • Reworded to "However, if the candidate receives less than 5%, he would no longer be eligible for future Hall of Fame balloting consideration." [4] Nishkid64 (talk) 21:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "put Boston in an 0-2 series deficit" this sounds odd, I don't think they were put anywhere "ment they had" or "were down 0-2" would be better.

Buc 21:10, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why do we only have his career totals for stats and not year by year numbers? Buc 22:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • People can just go to one of the many baseball statistics sites linked on the page. Personally, I don't support the inclusion of seasonly statistics to baseball player pages (I used to, but that was more than a year ago) because people tend to go overboard with the coloring and it impedes on the readability of the article. I think our career statistics section is fine, though. It's simple, and I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. Nishkid64 (talk) 23:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support well written, and has a lot of reliable references. It could use one or two more images though. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 00:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Was quite the struggle to find the one image!  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 01:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, lol I see. -- JA10 Talk • Contribs 01:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yes, we waited over a year to obtain an image of Smith! Finally, Wknight94 found one on Flickr. :) Nishkid64 (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, was a great article to read, and I see no problems with it. About time another baseball article gets to FA status :) Wizardman 22:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support
    • "In 1995, Smith registered a save in every appearance from April 28 through all of May and into June" s/b In 1995, Smith registered a save in every appearance from April 28 until June XX".
      • Two sentences later, I said the streak ended on June 28. In the previous sentence, I said Lee Smith said a record for most consecutive saves. It would seem repetitive if I mentioned April 28 to June 28, since I mention it later on. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • This means that his stread went from April 28 to some date before June 28 when he made his last successful save. This is the date I want.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Date added, but I still don't think it's really necessary (since it's explained a few sentences later). Nishkid64 (talk) 22:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • You are missing my point lets suppose his last successful save was June 24th. Then, it should say Smith registered a save in every appearance from April 28 to June 24. Then it should later explain that he blew the save on the 28th as it does. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is a better way to explain that. In fact, there would then be a game recap saying on the 24th he saved his 19th consecutive save.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 03:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can you get game box scores for June 11 and June 28 1995--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have added the gamelog for June 28, 1995, but not for June 11. Adding the gamelog would confirm that he made a save on that date, but it does not prove that he had 16 consecutive saves. However, the CNN link does indicate that. Nishkid64 (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2007 (UTC)Green tickY--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • BTW, the BOX+PBP links at the left of this link will give box scores for every game Smith pitched in 1995. —Wknight94 (talk) 04:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Secret sup 22:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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