Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Philippine Idol/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 17:19, 7 March 2008.

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Philippine Idol

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Self-nominator I'm nominating this article for featured article because it is recently promoted to WP:GA, and this would serve as an inspiration for other Philippine entertainment editors of Wikipedia. Starczamora (talk) 14:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose. I just did some preliminary work copy editing the article, and I don't think it's very close to FA status. Here are a few of the issues I noticed:
• There are a number of basic grammar and style issues throughout. I have corrected some, but there are plenty left.
  • Still some issues, but I'll try to take care of them. --Kakofonous (talk) 17:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I think these problems are mostly taken care of, but I'd like someone else to take a look. --Kakofonous (talk) 02:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• The "Notable events" section reads like a trivia collection. Necessary information should be combined into prose paragraphs, rather than remaining in that list. Extraneous information should be removed.
• Image:PIFinal12.jpg is too large for fair use. It should be uploaded again in a smaller size.
• Image:Pinoy idol title card.jpg has no fair use rationale or description.
• In many places, there are extremely small sections and paragraphs, which probably should be merged in some cases. I noticed this quite a bit in the "Controversies" section.

• I ran the article through peer review and the BOT program recommended to remove excessive use of articles like a, an, and the. Apparently, it does look like unstructured.
• I've edited the 'Notable events' section by removing no-longer-necessary paragraphs and copyediting the remaining ones.
• I've replaced the Pinoy Idol logo with the one with FUR provided.
• I've reuploaded the Philippine Idol finalists image in a smaller size.
• I've merged small paragraphs in the 'Controversies' section.

Starczamora (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC) --Kakofonous (talk) 16:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

• I am concerned that a large number of the article's sources come from official websites related to its content. From this page: "Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy."--Kakofonous (talk) 02:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Most of the contents were actually sourced from INQ7.net, a tie-up between Philippine Daily Inquirer and GMA Network, but it is no longer available and would have to rely from the official website. I will try to look for more independent sources. Starczamora (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose: numerous criterion three violations:
  • Image:Philippine_Idol_Logo.jpg‎ – no fair use rationale
  • Image:Philippine Idol Advertisement.jpg and Image:Philippine Idol Final 12a.JPG – incomplete fair use rationales (see WP:RAT) and redundant logos from Image:Philippine_Idol_Logo.jpg‎. Per WP:NFCC#3B, “An entire work is not used if a portion will suffice”
  • Image:Yova Alonzo.JPG – per license tag and NFCC#8, fair use of this image for Philippine Idol article does not appear supported.
  • Image:Czarina Rosales PI PDA.jpg - incomplete fair use rationale, although moot, as image does not appear to significantly contribute to our understanding (required per NFCC#8).
  • Image:PinoyIdolLogoLarge.JPG – no fair use rationale for Philippine Idol article. Per license tag and NFCC#8, fair use of this image for Philippine Idol article is not supported. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 23:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

All images have been edited with respective fair use rationales, but with certain arguments...

• Image:Philippine Idol Advertisement.jpg cannot be cropped as the date below the Philippine Idol logo is also used as a valid source for the program's original premiere date.
• Image:Philippine Idol Final 12b.JPG has been cropped from Image:Philippine Idol Final 12a.JPG.
• Image:Yova Alonzo.JPG depicts how Kakaibang Idol is presented as a "valid" singing competition rather than a presentation of odd talents.
• Image:Czarina Rosales PI PDA.jpg is an illustration on Philippine Idol's accusation of talent piracy against ABS-CBN, who owns Pinoy Dream Academy.
• Image:PinoyIdolLogoLarge.JPG is used as the Idol franchise's "transition" from Philippine Idol. Thank you. Starczamora (talk) 01:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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