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Tales of Graces[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:Laser brain 09:53, 30 July 2013 [1].

Nominator(s): DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:09, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~This article includes every information in existence, I think. I want to see how it'll fare in FAC before my summer ends. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:09, 19 July 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]

Withdrawn. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 20:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - on the disclaimer that I was the GA reviewer for this article and had any concerns I had addressed after the review. My full GA review can be found here. Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 22:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Prose needs extensive copy-editing. I'm seeing shifts in tenses ("found an amnesiac girl and witnesses her death"), redundancy ("received positive reception"), and awkward phrasing ("citing the gameplay to be") in the lead alone
Plot section is very confusing to someone unfamiliar with the game. For example, how is Sophie alive seven years later? Did she die first or not?

It wasn't explained until late in the game and I used her character's page for it since I couldn't get it to flow with the story.

Further attention to the Manual of Style is needed. Game titles should always be italicized, don't link the same terms twice in a single section, etc

Yeah, I was wondering whether each of those characters counted as a section or not. I forgot to italicize the game titles there.

Lots of primary sources - in addition to the primary-sources section, you've also got things like Silverstein's resume and Facebook posts

Primary sources were mostly for plot related things. I thought the resume site would be preferable over Behind the Voice Actors but guess not. I thought the facebook post might pass since it's a post by the company and that the company's website hasn't updated itself to include the game.

Some citations don't support the material they're meant to. For example, you cite "The text was translated by 8-4" to this site, which makes clear that their list includes titles where "[their involvement was] super minor (i.e. “translated one character’s 17 battle lines and took the game director out to dinner”)" without differentiation from titles where they were more extensively involved - with that source alone, you can only say 8-4 was involved, not that the text was translated by them.

At this point, I would probably suggest withdrawal so you can revamp the sourcing and then send the article through the Guild. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I'll withdrawal. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 20:09, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 13:51, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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