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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 23:31, 5 March 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Celtic F.C. managers[edit]

List of Celtic F.C. managers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): ShugSty (talk) 00:44, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have added various references to confirm the statistics listed, verified suitability of existing references, and have added a fair bit of narrative to give context to the facts and figures. ShugSty (talk) 00:44, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Kosack (talk)
Comments: A few points from a quick run through
  • Opening line should be Celtic Football Club rather than just Celtic - Done (ShugSty)
  • The entire three opening paragraphs are unreferenced - The first three paragraphs are just a summary of the main text below, so I've not put any references there as per guidelines for lead sections in articles (ShugSty)
  • Ref 8 should be attributed to The Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation rather than just rsssf - Done (ShugSty)
  • The website in Ref 13 is no longer valid - Replaced with different source (ShugSty)
  • Ref 28 doesn't link anywhere - Sorted (ShugSty)
  • Ref 36 appears to be a dead link - Sorted (ShugSty)
  • Ref 57 is listed as a match report but the link directs to an article about HIV drugs? - Sorted (ShugSty)
  • Refs 8, 44, 50, 52, 59, 60, 61 and 66 need authors included - Done (ShugSty)

Kosack (talk) 12:07, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the above points; I've sorted them all out, aside from the issue of no references in the lead section. ShugSty (talk) 22:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Just a couple of other points:

  • WP:LEAD does state that the lead should be "carefully sourced as appropriate". The only two points I would say need sourcing would be the formation date of the club and the amount of league titles, cups etc won as I don't see them mentioned or referenced within the main text.
  • Images need alternative text, per WP:ALT.
  • Ref 9 would be better placed at the end of the following sentence regarding the British record, at the moment the claim of the record looks unreferenced.
  • "resigned at the behest of the Board" no need for upper case letter in board.
  • Ref 28 will still need page numbers if you're combining its use into one reference.
  • The Celtic F.C. category is redundant as the page is also included in the more pertinent Celtic F.C. managers category.

Think that's about it. Kosack (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All points now addressed - I'm now going out to watch a certain match (and consuming appropriate beverages), so probably won't be available for day or two to check up on article review. ShugSty (talk) 11:38, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks good now. Kosack (talk) 10:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:29, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments nice bit of work. A couple of observations.
  • " 1960s and '70s" -> " 1960s and 1970s" - Done (ShugSty)
  • "18 full-time managers" 18 different full-time managers as McNeill had two separate stints.Mccccccccc - Done (ShugSty)
  • "Jock Stein is considered the club's greatest manager, having revived..." you've already mentioned his first name in the preceding para. Also, and while I don't doubt it, this claim isn't referenced - I've referenced the claim, but still feel the text reads better using "Jock Stein" in the paragraph as opposed to just Stein - although in the subsequent sentence I have changed "Stein" to "He" (ShugSty)
  • Name doesn't sort correctly in the table - Yep, just can't get it to work. I've removed the sort function for that column (ShugSty)
    That's a shame, it shouldn't be too difficult to get the sortname template working. It's probably because you have the flag in the name column too, consider breaking that out in a Nationality column of its own, which would be nice because then you could sort by it independently of the name of the manager. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC) - Good shout! Sorted (in every sense) - Shugsty[reply]
  • Shouldn't "Caretaker manager" in the key be italics? - Done (ShugSty)
  • McStay's note needs referencing - Done (ShugSty)
  • It should also be a Note, not a reference - Done (ShugSty)

That's about it for now. (I fixed your en-dash issues!) The Rambling Man (talk) 14:26, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for highlighting these points; hopefully I've addressed them satisfactorily. ShugSty (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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