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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 16:40, 2 October 2008 [1].

List of UEFA Intertoto Cup winners[edit]

I'm nominating this list for featured status as I believe that after a peer review which addresses many issues this list is now meets all the criteria necessary to become a featured list. Thanks in advance for your comments NapHit (talk) 17:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I was not able to evaluate the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Am I missing something, or does the maths for 1999 not add up? Metz are listed as winning the first leg 1-0, and the second 3-1, but the aggregate is apparently 3-2. Also, I'm confused as to why some countries are bolded and others are not Is it the winners who are bolded? In which case, why are West Ham bolded if they lost? Gran2 16:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I got the scores the wrong way round, fixed them now, yeh the teams in bold are the winners of the matches, I'm sure that's mentioned in the key above the list of winners NapHit (talk) 16:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well there wasn't one when I looked at it. So West Ham won the tie? If so, you need to change it because it says Metz won. Looking again, 2000 appears to be wrong as well. Zenit St Petersburg apparently won the tie 4-3 but are credited with just 3 goals. Aside from those things, everything else seems okay. Gran2 18:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep you're right fixed this now everything is hopefully in order NapHit (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Okay, I have no other complaints. Gran2 20:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - please consider the following.

  • " leading European clubs " - is leading required here? a bit POV - especially as you then go through the specific qualification criteria.
Done
  • "after winning initially in 2003" - hmm, pretty obvious they won it that year since they retained it the next. Perhaps just "the previous year" or similar?
Done
  • "have won the competition the most " - on most occasions?
Done
  • caption - " a record two times, a record " - "a record" x2, needs work.
Tweaked it
  • Not sure how fascinating the results per team table is. That kind of info could go in the lead (at least, the big winners could) - only the top 8 or so have featured more than once.
I think it should stay as it is as it provides useful information, and if it did not include all the teams it could be construed as being incomplete
  • Don't pipe the football club publishers - it's a little confusing to think that, for example, the city of Montpellier is a publisher of UEFA Intertoto Cup results.
Fixed
  • Is there a football list category this can be added to?
I don't think so I couldn't find one

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Responded to your queries, Cheers NapHit (talk) 15:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Mattythewhite (talk) 15:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "...UEFA Cup, the Intertoto Cup..." - should be "with the Intertoto Cup"
Done NapHit (talk) 21:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The 2006 and 2007 entries in the table seems a bit misleading. I'm wondering why the first qualifying round matches are included, which seem a bit random to me. But I might just be getting confused.
Those are the matces the two teams played to qualify for the uefa cup, and after 2005 the team that won the intertoto cup was the team that progressed the furthest, hence why those matches are included NapHit (talk) 21:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but maybe it could be mentioned with a footnote the match they played in that was the furthest of the UEFA Cup teams, or some way show how it was them that won the Intertoto. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's mentioned in the lead, if that's sufficient if not, I will add a note NapHit (talk) 21:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my concern is that it's not really all that clear what the 2006 and 2007 matches were exactly, and how the team did win the Intertoto Cup. From reading the lead, we know that it is from progressing furthest in the competition that season, but I think it would be worth mentioning where that team did reach in the competition that season. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok added the notes NapHit (talk) 14:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 34 - "Lillestrom 0-3 Newcastle (agg 1-4}" - should be "(agg 1-4)".
Good spot, fixed NapHit (talk) 21:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments all taken care off NapHit (talk) 21:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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