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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Scorpion0422 20:56, 28 October 2008 [1].

List of awards and nominations received by S.H.E[edit]

previous FLC (20:26, 11 October 2008)

Immediate renomination because I feel that reviewers' concerns were all addressed in the previous FLC, and I don't see why this list shouldn't be promoted.

Comment You may feel that reviewers' concerns were met, but either they didn't revisit to offer further feedback on it, or they didn't indicate any support of promotion. I can only go by community consensus, and in this case I couldn't see that any consensus had been reached. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Pandacomics (talk) 18:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NONENG: "Where editors use a non-English source to support material that is likely to be challenged, or translate any direct quote, they should quote the relevant portion of the original, non-English text in a footnote or in the article, so that those readers who understand the foreign language can check that it agrees with the article content. Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Wikipedia editors."
It is no good providing a table of links to Google Translate in a subpage of a FLC. The translations themselves have to be on the article so that all readers can immediately verify for themselves what is being presented to them as fact. Additionally, [2] says "Even today's most sophisticated software, however, doesn't approach the fluency of a native speaker or possess the skill of a professional translator. Automatic translation is very difficult, as the meaning of words depends on the context in which they're used. While we are working on the problem, it may be some time before anyone can offer human quality translations." so even they can't guarantee the accuracy of their translations, and you also said you know it isn't fully accurate. Any translation should be done by a human or other "reliable source", not a robot that may not be accurate. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You say you want a translation, so I will give you translations. Except, if I write them down, you're still not going to promote it on the grounds that the translations are mine. So I'd use Google Translate translations to show you that my translations weren't erroneous. But then, you're going to say that even those translators aren't reliable because it's done by a robot. Pardon my urgency in stating this question, but, honestly, what the hell do you want? Pandacomics (talk) 04:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that's not true. I say Google's translations aren't reliable because both you and Google say they may not be. A human who is fluent in Chinese, or one who is close to it and uses Google to back them up would be okay. Again, I quote "Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Wikipedia editors." As long as the translations appear on the actual article, I have no problem with the translator being a Wikipedian if nothing else is available. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. The loading time is not bad at all. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • Either unbold the lead sentence or change it; the way the it's bolded now looks scattered and random.
  • Shouldn't this article be titled: "List of awards and nominations received by S.H.E."?
  • "Ceremonies were held from 2001–2003 at the Genting Highlands Resort." Should be "from 2001 to 2003", you have to write out both prepositions.
  • "S.H.E has earned four awards out of five nominations" "out"-->from. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done (from a while back). Pandacomics (talk) 21:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Honours received that year include 17 awards for either Best or Most Popular Group, 12 for song-related categories, one for Best Album, one for Best Soundtrack, and one for Best Music Video." Make the numbers consistent: Spell them all out or write them all out in digits.
  • "S.H.E has won one award from 14 nominations." Same as above.
  • "S.H.E won 5 of these awards, including two Gold Awards for Best Group." 5-->five.
  • "S.H.E has won 4 of these awards." 4-->four.
  • There should not be collapsible tables in prose for Accessibility reasons. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:18, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All numbers less than 20 spelled out. As for collapsible tables, I collapsed it because it would've otherwise made the list way too effing long. Decollapsing would present an entirely different accessibility issue (loading time). Pandacomics (talk) 02:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've put in a query about this. Meanwhile, get Matthew or Scorpion to move the FAC page to match the article title. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to this discussion, don't use collapsible tables in prose. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it can't be helped then...but don't say I didn't warn you (about loading times).  Fixed Pandacomics (talk) 00:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Since their debut in 2001, the trio has recorded eleven albums in six years, with sales exceeding 4.5 million since the release of their first album Girls Dorm."-->Since their debut in 2001, the trio has recorded eleven albums in six years, and sales have exceeded 4.5 million since the release of their first album Girls Dorm. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This too was done a while ago. Insert check mark:  Done Hooray. Pandacomics (talk) 19:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment List should probably be renamed to List of awards and nominations received by S.H.E. Gary King (talk) 18:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah....I'm getting to it. Pandacomics (talk) 21:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)  Done Pandacomics (talk) 21:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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