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July 3[edit]

Recover Deleted Page[edit]

Hi I was a regular visitor and contributor to a page that has since been deleted. Please tell me who to approach about reposting the page.

For reference it was "New Zealand Words" with a growing list of great endemic and shared words and terms from New Zealand. It was not a swear-word page or any kind of advertisement. I guess I noticed it to be missing about two or three months ago.

Thanks!

Deleted by prod so I have restored it for you. ViridaeTalk 00:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make a new article?[edit]

How do I make a new article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drew545 (talkcontribs).

See Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. PrimeHunter 01:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Borrowing text from other articles[edit]

What is the legality (particularly under the GFDL) of using the text of one Wikipedia article as the basis for another article? Does it matter how heavily the article is modified? My own [very] casual reading of the GFDL would seem to indicate it's okay since the new document would also be issued under the GFDL, and in some senses it's no different than substing a template. Does it make a difference if I'm the original author for a majority of the text? For the entire text? (The specific case I'm curious about regards SAT Subject tests if it matters, but I'm interested in the question in general.) --YbborTalk 01:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldn't be a problem, although I'd suggest that in the first edit you make, you include a link to the old article for attribution purposes. Of course you can't use the Wikipedia article as a reliable source, though. Confusing Manifestation 01:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you have to link the old article in the edit summary of the new article. If somebody failed to do that then make a new edit which says it (example:[1]). See also Wikipedia:Summary style. PrimeHunter 01:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Very helpful, much thanks to both of you. :) I assume the same applies even If I am the original author? --YbborTalk 01:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure it applies if you wrote all the used text, but why not make the link anyway? You could add that it was written by you if you want credit in the new article. If somebody else made contributions, even minor ones, then definitely make the link. PrimeHunter 02:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My page was deleted, and i can not find it in the deletion log[edit]

i created a page called "class of 77" which was found here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_of_77

and it is no longer there. i had received permission from all parties that i was allowed to publish their material.

The creator of the show contacted me today and asked why it had been removed. can you please tell me why this is so?

I was also not contacted about this site being removed or told of it being a problem before it was removed. is that also normal?

thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrogilvie (talkcontribs).

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Class of 77. -- zzuuzz (talk) 01:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You could have found the link by clicking "deletion log" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_of_77, or by going to Class of 77. See WP:N and WP:RS for some of the mentioned concerns. The article had a big box for 5 days saying that it was debated for deletion (assuming things went as they should). See Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Article creators are often but not always told on their talk page that an article is up for deletion. You can watch articles if you want to discover edits to them (proposing deletion is an edit). PrimeHunter 01:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to discuss the subst:nn-warn message[edit]

Hello there,

I recently listed and article for speedy deletion (db group) and placed the subst:nn-warn template on the talk page of the article creator. The message seems a little harsh to me - especially to someone who is obviously new and trying to help. I think it could be phrased in a much better way that doesn't sound as if it's a "telling-off". My question is - How and where can I propose a rephrased version? Thanks Tree Kittens 02:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:nn-warn. I think those things have a governing project as well. --tjstrf talk 02:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings. PrimeHunter 03:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot to both of you for your answers. It seems there are lots of issues here to do with user warning standardisation and so on, so I think I'll take a look at the existing discussions and have a look at other warnings before diving in. Thanks a lot for your help. Tree Kittens 03:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pokepoll[edit]

Sorry for the lame title, as I ment to say I am starting a poll in which people can vote for their favorite Pokemon on my userpage, are others allowed to edit it to place their "votes" on my userpage? Or should I just get rid of it? (LatiRider 03:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Yes, they can edit your page, and yes, you should get rid of it. (Playing games, taking polls on unrelated matters, etc. are not proper uses of your userpage.) --tjstrf talk 03:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:NOT#BLOG. --- Kesh 03:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It has been deleted. (I PWN U ALL 03:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Join Stuff[edit]

How do I join stuff? (eg. like Don't give a f***) (I PWN U ALL 03:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I'm sorry, but could you be a bit more specific? It's easier to answer your question that way. I'll assume that you're talking about one of two things:
  1. WikiProjects: Simply add your name to the list, usually using "#~~~~"
  2. Categories: Add "[[Category:(name of category here)|{{PAGENAME}}]]"
That should cover it, otherwise, just help out with anything you feel like. :) Hope that helps, Nihiltres(t.c.s) 03:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok let me explain it. Like add those bada** templates to my channel. I added one but that was by accident. Luckily I joined that. (I PWN U ALL 03:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Article gone, what happened? Also disappeared under "my contributions"[edit]

A few weeks ago, I wrote something, quite a bit, in an article. Now it's gone. I also looked under "my contributions" and it's also disappeared. What happened? The disappeared material wasn't anything secret, wasn't related to national security, and wasn't vandalism. Ok, the subject was a little obscure. Fineday 05:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was probably deleted for not asserting notability. What was the title? --tjstrf talk 05:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

heading[edit]

How do I change the heading for an entry

I assume you mean the title of the page. To change it you move the page to a new name which will change the title. Note that only accounts older than 4 days can move pages. --Hdt83 Chat 05:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

one less reason page[edit]

i created a page on the band One Less Reason from Jackson, Tn but for some reason between the hours of 1pm and 12am on july 2nd it was deleted. i was just wondering why it was deleted. they are a band that i am in talks with of creating this page to give information to those who know about them, but want to know more.

See the deletion log entry. It means that the band doesn't assert a reason why it is notable or significant that gets it close to meeting Wikipedia:Notability (music), our inclusion guideline for music, bands, etc. Do you see a way it could meet that guideline?--Chaser - T 05:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple div styles on userpage.[edit]

Here's my problem: I had all my userboxes in my infobox, but they were causing issues with my awards (overlapping), so I decided to condense into show/hide tables. When I add the code to the infobox, it causes the text (the lead of my userpage) to start below the bottom of the infobox. When I place it in the body (currently at the very bottom of my page), it messes us the div code I have set up to set my background and border to pink, and I can't adjust the alignment. As it currently is, there are two tables (Personal & Wikipedia) aligned to the left (having more caused issues with alignment and order), and the border/background are messed up.

I had more than the two tables previous to this, and would prefer to have more, but I want them all lined up one below the other or in even rows that fill the width of the page. Does anyone know how to fix this? LaraLoveT/C 06:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is what you wanted? Sebi [talk] 06:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That looks better, but it's not what I wanted. I mean, I prefer that than what I had, but ultimately I would prefer they be in the info box without causing the lead text to start below the infobox. Or, if that isn't possible, I would like the blue border on white background, which has appeared inside my pink border with pale pink background, to go away. Neither of those may be possible. I don't understand coding so much. Two different "div"s may be forced to clash like this. LaraLoveT/C 06:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Password problem[edit]

I am trying to log in uhe password you sent me and it still gives me the error —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.183.20.171 (talkcontribs).

Remember that user names are also case sensitive. So if your username has capitol letters in it, make sure to type them that way. -CamT|C 07:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do I delete an artical[edit]

How does someone delete an artical. I have got a home wiki and I cannot delete any articals —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.59.188.108 (talkcontribs).

Only administrators can delete articles – however, for the rest of us, you can nominate an article to be deleted, by listing it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, or if it meets the speedy deletion criteria, you can tag the article with the appropriate tag. Sebi [talk] 08:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you need to make yourself an admin - go to Special:Makesysop and set yourself as an admin. ViridaeTalk 09:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Qingming by Immanuel Giel[edit]

I would like to contact Immanuel Giel for discussing the version of the twelfth century Qingming scroll displayed on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Qingming_shanghe_tu_01.jpg. 84.87.39.74 09:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go to his talk page on commons and edit it. You can find it by clicking on the "talk" beside his username.--Joshua Say "hi" to me!What have I done? 10:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Volunterering my bandwidth to Tor[edit]

If, in support of other Chinese, I volunteer my bandwidth to Tor, will I be blocked from editing by your anti-Chinese policy against open proxies? --Router of The Onion 12:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you provide an exit node capable of editing Wikipedia, it is likely that you will be blocked due to vandals from other countries using it. -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:No open proxies is the policy on this matter, and there is also the essay Wikipedia:Advice to users using Tor to bypass the Great Firewall. mattbr 14:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a side note, it's not that Wikipedia has an anti-Chinese policy, it's that China has an anti-free-speech policy. If it weren't for that, Chinese editors wouldn't have to try to use proxies in the first place. -- Kesh 02:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i want to know[edit]

hi, plese i want to know what i am manglik in my leligon ,there is no consecpt of manglik plese plese help me about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aqsa chochu (talkcontribs).

See Hooked on Phonics and try asking your question again. -- Kainaw(what?) 13:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To my surprise there is actually something called manglik. Maybe that link says what you want to know. Perhaps "leligon" refers to religion. PrimeHunter 14:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indian English[edit]

Many of the articles that touch on Indian subjects are written in Indian English, which (hoping I don't cause offence to any Indian editors) I regard as "non-standard" and I often edit these into formal British English. However, User:Sukh says here that "all pages related to India are meant to be in Indian English. See the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English for further details." The Manual of Style does say that no major national variety of the language is more "correct" than the others. Does this mean we are to allow such English as (examples from Indian English article) "I am understanding it" "She is knowing the answer"?--Shantavira|feed me 13:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This comes up in many articles. See American football. British-English speakers continually want to alter the article. Recently, the sentence, "Both football and soccer have roots in a common earlier sport." was changed to, "Both football and football have roots in a common earlier sport." Also, they insist on changing feet/yards to meters. "10 yards" is not used as a scientific unit of measurement in the sport. It is a nice round number that sounds much better than saying, "They have to run 9.144 meters for a first down." In the end, it comes down to who will read the article most often. If it is Americans, then it should be in American English. If it is British, then it should be in British English. If it is Australians, it should be in Australian English. If it is Indians, it should be in Indian English. -- Kainaw(what?) 13:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One obviously ideal technological solution would be for each person's computer to show him or her the version of the World Wide Web he or she prefers to see. Someone who is upset by, say, seeing lengths in yards instead of meters should never have to see anything but meters. Someone who is upset by seeing a photograph of a naked woman should never have to see that either, and so on. What's not nearly so obvious is how to give the user that much control over content. It will probably require something like artificial intelligence good enough to pass the Turing test. That is, by the time computer programs can pass the Turing test, computer programs may be smart enough to give everyone a fully customized view of the Web. (It stands to reason that for a computer program to pass the Turing test today, it would have to be able to answer questions about Web pages and what is on them, just like a human can. A human can look at a page and see that it mentions lengths in yards, or it has photos of animals or people, etc. I.e., the program would have to be able to defeat all current CAPTCHA programs, and more.) Instead today we are still at the mercy of one-size-must-fit-all implementations (which is where the English Wikipedia is unfortunately stuck). Another possibility might be something like a Semantic Web with enough labeling of content to allow today's primitive software to recognize every relevant type of content and customize it to the user's taste on the fly. --Teratornis 16:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure we're addressing the original question here. It doesn't seem to be about words that have different definitions and spellings in different locations (colour vs. color and football vs. soccer) or measurement units (yards vs. meters), but about grammar and shades of idiomatic usage. Specifically items like differences in progressive tense in stative verbs, subject-verb agreement, and preposition selection are what the Wikipedian is looking for guidance about. I don't know the answer, but wanted to get the thread back on track.
Jim Dunning | talk 14:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite. I have absolutely no problem with American, Canadian, spellings etc, or even with regional idioms. I would just like to be able to edit articles on Indian subjects to improve what I cannot help but see as bad English. The examples I gave were not very good ones, and most of the Indian English has already been edited out of the Indian Constitution article. Take a minor article like All India Muslim Forum. This contains the sentence "The Forum has collaboration with Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Liberation." This is typical Indian English in that it lacks articles. Should it be allowed to stand? (Of getting good answer I am not hopeful here.)--Shantavira|feed me 10:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am wondering about an answer to this as well. I frequently encounter this dilemma when reviewing and editing Bollywood film articles. Does anyone know if the "Indian English" described in Indian English is considered "proper" English in India? Unfortunately, the article is not fully sourced, so I'll have to do some research.
Jim Dunning | talk 19:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sharp Pain under my Left BreastEureka16 14:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC). Eureka16[edit]

I have had a sharp eletrifying pain behind/under my left breast in the same spot for about a two weeks now. It comes and goes, but seems to be happening more often. It feels like I am being poked with an ice pick from the inside. Has anybody experienced this pain or knows what this might be?

Wikipedia does not provide medical advice. Miranda 14:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry you are experiencing this pain, but this page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not give medial advice and I suggest you speak to your local medical professional. mattbr 14:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not give medial advice but it sure has some interesting medical articles. For example, Pleurisy is one of (probably) many conditions which can cause chest pain. {{Symptoms and signs}} looks interesting too. It is very unlikely you can self-diagnose by reading an encyclopedia as accurately as a physician can diagnose your condition, but while you're waiting for your appointment you might as well read some articles on Wikipedia and learn something. --Teratornis 05:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If we don't give medial advice, then how about lateral advice? Edison 05:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Number of pages in different namespaces[edit]

The number of pages in the Main namespase is approximately 1.8 million (using {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}) and the number of pages in the Image namespace is is approximately 750 000 files (using {{NUMBEROFFILES}}), so, what is the number of pages in other namespaces (User, Wikipedia, Template, Category, etc)? --196.218.135.32 14:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{NUMBEROFPAGES}} is the magic word you need, which gives all pages in all namespaces, and there are currently 60,565,117. mattbr 14:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

new messages glitch[edit]

I am getting the orange "new messages" warning box showing up on every new page after I checked my talk page. I tried connecting through both the links in the warning box and through my regular "my talk" header link. This occurred after Ralbot sent me the Signpost through AWB. Any way to fix this? VanTucky 16:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clear your cache (see WP:CACHE) GDonato (talk) 16:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

attempt to create an account is going badly[edit]

I received a "Welcome" message after creating an account. I cannot get to my Preferences page because the site says I'm not logged in. When I try to log in, the site does not recognize me. I went to check my email confirmation. I clicked on that thinking it might make a difference. Although the email says it will expire on the 10th of July, clicking the confirmation results in a message that the confirmation did not work, and that the confirmation message may have expired, which can't be.

What is your username? --ais523 16:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I tried creating an account under the name Debplatt at first, but I couldn't sign in. I hadn't associated that account with an email. So I tried creating an account Dorkusdisk with an email account. I did get a confirmation email, but I still couldn't log in. Despite the initial messages that my confirmation may have expired, later that day it did accept the confirmation, but I still couldn't log in.

WP:DYOH[edit]

We have a lot of WP: pages for various common responses. Is there any restriction on creating a new one, such as Wikipedia:Do your own homework and redirecting WP:DYOH to it? -- Kainaw(what?) 16:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, please feel free. Ensure you tag it as {{essay}} if it reflects your opinion, if you are creating a redirect add {{R from shortcut}} Enjoy! GDonato (talk) 16:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
After thinking about it, there isn't enough for a whole policy page. I think it should be a template instead, {{DYOH}}. -- Kainaw(what?) 17:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines#The differences between policies, guidelines, essays, etc. may be of interest, but I also think a template sounds better. Wikipedia:Reference desk/How to ask and answer has a possible response to homework requests at the reference desk. PrimeHunter 17:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The template {{dyoh}} has existed for quite some time. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that out. I was aware of {{Resolved}}, {{RD1}}, {{RD2}}, and {{RD3}} already, but none of those are currently categorized in Category: Wikipedia standard response templates. It would be nice to make a comprehensive list of standard response templates to answer all the frequently asked questions on the Help desk. For example, how many times have we explained how to create a new page? Or to empty the search form of saved searches? I'm writing some notes here; comments are welcome. --Teratornis 19:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, I was one of the creators of those RD templates, back at the days when I was active here at the help desk... Don't miss Wikipedia:Help desk/RD tip which ties the three together (but shouldn't be used itself). Another standard response template is Wikipedia:Reference desk/Article, which is meant for the reference desk rather than here, but I don't recall ever seeing it used. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of a page describing a commercial product?[edit]

Play Attention describes a product that supposedly treats people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. There are no references to support the efficacy of the product. It is listed under categories such as Attention which have a scientific basis, butthis product, as far as I can tell, does not. Is this something that should be deleted?--Cooper24 16:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article Photo[edit]

Can you have an Article photo on your own User Page ?

I thought you could and had one on my User Page.

But somebody removed it.

Are other people allowed to edit your User Page ?

Tovojolo 16:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can only have an image on your userpage if it is free, not fair use (i.e. from a film, TV show, music CD cover is not allowed), people can edit your userpage if it contains non-free images although will generally ask you first. GDonato (talk) 16:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do you find out who the uploading editor was? Need to notify re: plagiarism?[edit]

The cerebral palsy article contains several plagiarized sentences. From the help pages, it seems I can immediately remove them (this is assuming that the uploading editor was not the original article of the book from which the sentences were plagiarized), followed by notifying the uploading editor.

My question is, how do I discover who the uploading editor was? I've tried searching the history of the page, but have not been able to find it.

Here is one example (from the Wikipedia article):

The first questions usually asked by parents after they are told their child has CP are "What will my child be like?" and "Will she/he walk?" Predicting what a young child with CP will be like or what he will or will not do is very difficult.

Original (from [2] Cerebral Palsy: A guide for care):

The first questions usually asked by parents after they are told their child has cerebral palsy are "What will my child be like?" and "Will he walk?" Predicting what a young child with cerebral palsy will be like or what he will or will not do (called the prognosis) is very difficult.

Can/should I:

  • Just delete the sentence and give the original source, citing plagiarism as the reason for removal, in the edit note? (I can't think of a way to paraphrase)
  • Notify the uploading editor? (Instructions on finding out who this person is needed)
  • Mention on the talk page?
  • Other?

I'm sure this has been answered elsewhere, but I've spent the last 4 hours just getting this far ... help would be greatly appreciated (and if there is a better forum to ask questions like this, please let me know). Thanks.

The phrase "Uploading editor" refers to images, but the rules for text are similar. If you find a copyright violation in text, just delete it from the text, and explain why in the edit summary ('rm copyvio' would be a common abbreviation). It's often worthwhile warning the person who added the text (although optional in the case of text, compulsory in the case of images); you can find this by checking the edit history for the first version that contained the text. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


Thank you! How can I find the first version that contained the text? Aside from opening every one of the hundreds of edits, I can't figure out how I would find that info.

You have to search through the history of edits. You don't have to check every one though. Go back about 50 edits and see if the text is there. If it is, go back another 50 or so edits. Eventually, you'll narrow down the area in which the edit was added. -- Kainaw(what?) 17:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is a User:AmiDaniel/WhodunitQuery which allegedly determines who contributed a particular passage, but it only runs on Microsoft Windows, evidently. I have not tried it so I don't know if it will be useful here. --Teratornis 17:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're probably worrying too much about this. Here at wikipedia, we have a rule: BE BOLD! It means you don't have to spend too much of your editing time worrying over tricky issues. If you see something you don't like, you can just remove it or (better) you can rewrite it and source it. You can mark your summary "rm copyvio" or whatever, then you can move on to edit something else. AndyJones 19:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Editing[edit]

I added true evidence on Ashley Tisdale's page, but it was deleted. I got this information off MTV, where Ashley announced her STardoll.cam account, AshTisdaleNo._1 How can I stop it from being deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.63.156 (talkcontribs)

Information in biographies about living people, particularly controversial information, must be adequately backed up by at least one verifiable, third-party source, or it may be removed by any editor at any time. Some information also is not intended for Wikipedia, and will be removed even if it is backed up with sources. You can check the page history to see who removed your information and talk to them about it. Hersfold (talk/work) 16:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New message banner[edit]

Something is wrong with my new message banner. It is appearing constantly (even after checking last change). --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is a known bug that has been reported to bugzilla, but this is the first instance I've heard of it affecting a logged in user. You might want to add a report of what your recent actions on Wikipedia have been to the bug page I linked above, and discuss this at the Tech Village Pump. I'm afraid there's not much we can do to help you here. Hersfold (talk/work) 16:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is the second instance I've heard of this affecting a logged-in user (the first is 7 sections above); as these are both very recent I'd suspect that this isn't coincidence. Does bypassing your cache help? (It doesn't in the case of bug 9213; if it does for you, it would imply the cause was different.) --ais523 16:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Neither bypassing or clearing the cache works.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a link calculator?[edit]

Is there a way you can find out how many instances a page you are viewing is used by other pages or highlighted in other pages? For instance lets say you are viewing a page on Baltimore, the article on Maryland probably has Balitimore in blue, so does the article on the Orioles. There may be 4,000 references to Baltimore in other articles. Can one find out how? I have seen it when I upload an image, where the text reads: "this page links to 3 wiki articles..(sic)"Marylandstater 16:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can click on "What links here" in the sidebar (at the left of the screen) to see the pages linking to the page you're viewing; I don't think it has a count, but you could page through them and then count the number on the final page. --ais523 16:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) In the toolbox on the left of any page in question, you can click the "What links here" link to find all instances of pages linking to the page in question, or go to Special:Whatlinkshere/(page name goes here). Nihiltres(t.c.s) 16:53, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.Marylandstater 17:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do I start a page about a public figure? A Radio Personality[edit]

How do I start a page about a public figure? A Radio Personality

See Help:Starting a new page for instructions on starting the page. Starting the page is easy; getting it to stick may be difficult. Wikipedia deletes lots of pages for violating various policies and guidelines. --Teratornis 17:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:BIO for guidelines on articles about people. See WP:RS, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET also (one common problem with new articles by new users is they fail to cite reliable sources; that often gets their articles deleted). --Teratornis 18:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Resolving dispute with User:Xotheusedguyox[edit]

The above user is making multiple changes to articles involving The Used that contravene the official style guidelines and the informal, non-offical way of doing things; specifically, removing quotes from around song titles and adding a members heading in Template:The Used. He is currently refusing to take part in any form of dialogue, reverting my revertions and ignoring my comments in article revisions and the user's talkpage. What should I do from here? I shall temporarily stop reverting his changes until I get a reply, although I will resume them at 17:00 BST July 4 if no reply is posted by then. --Jamdav86 18:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You might try requesting protection or some form of dispute resolution. If the other user really isn't being cooperative, then I'd say your best bet is the former, but you should definitely give the latter a try. If you do continue to revert edits, just keep the 3RR in mind, but it sounds like you are. Hersfold (talk/work) 19:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Creating A New Page[edit]

Hi i am a representitve for a football club from stoke on trent. the club has been going for around 30 years now and i would like to put the team into wikipedia.

the teams name is northwood town and we play in stoke on trent, we are not to be confused with northwood fc as they are from a different part of the country.

could you tell me if this is possible and if so point me in the right direction of how to do it ?

thanks

--Chaysp81 19:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, If you can ascertain the notability of Northwood Town (according to WP:NN), then the article is a reasonable candidate for creation. Instead of creating it yourself, I would recommend putting it up at WP:AfC (Articles for Creation). An objective editor will create it if seen as notable.

Kevinwong913 Speak out loud! 19:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NN refers to the notability guideline WP:NN. See also Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs may be of interest. PrimeHunter 19:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

micheal helegbe[edit]

i want information about his profile and transfer —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 41.204.46.195 (talk)

We have a short article on Michael Helegbe. You can search more with Google [3], or try our reference desk. PrimeHunter 20:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

usage of rider roll in winder[edit]

why 2slitting rider roll used in winder?

We can't answer that. Shalom Hello 20:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your question. The Help Desk is intended to help people use Wikipedia - for anything else, I suggest a search or asking at the Reference desk. Hersfold (talk/work) 21:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Believe it or not, the almighty Google seems to understand this question, but we have to put an extra space in it: Google:why 2 slitting rider roll used in winder?. For example, this search result looks like an understandable introduction to paper roll slitting and rewinding. If that's what the question is about (I cannot guess). --Teratornis 01:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Companies and Technologies in Environmental Protection[edit]

Please tell me where to find a directory of these companies, if any.

If not, I am considering creating one.

Thanks

Teck Yap Toronto, Canada —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.186.105.50 (talk)

20:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Environmental organizations. Shalom Hello 20:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See also Category:Environmental technology, Category:Environment and Category:Companies by industry. We have categories to show subjects we have an article about, but Wikipedia is not a directory. Maybe a real directory like Open Directory Project and it's category http://dmoz.org/Business/Energy_and_Environment/ is of more interest to you. PrimeHunter 20:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New to Wikipedia, Tried to make password[edit]

Some one made my account, it is a closed account that was made on June 30. I clicked Email password, checked my email, but nothing happened. What do I do? How do I make my password? 68.80.210.123 23:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Wik-Dic CAN YOU ANSWER THIS ALREADY!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 68.80.210.123 23:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Wik-Dic[reply]
Did you set an email address for your account when you created it. If you didn't then nothing will happen. If you did, you should have recieved it. Did you check your junk mail folder? Leebo T/C 23:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not familiar with the process, but it was apparently created on request after giving an email address:[4], [5], User talk:Wik-Dic. Is that the right address? The creator can be contacted at User talk:Cometstyles. You can also create a new account and ignore the old. PrimeHunter 00:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When is it WP:copyvio?[edit]

Does it have to be word for word, or can it be a substantial use of identical phrases and wording? Specifically, John Bernard Flannagan looks suspiciously like this article from britannica.com, or at least all I can see of it. Clarityfiend 23:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would say the latter, assuming that substantial is substantially copied word for word. You may want to be bold and use {{copyvio|http://www.britannica.com/ebi/article-9323380}} and follow the instructions on the tag. Also check the editors of the page. Stereotypically, some newer users copy content from random sources, which is a copyright violation.(I think) SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 23:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, you should read WP:COPYVIO first though. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 23:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Viewing Chinese characters[edit]

What encoding do I use to view Chinese characters on wikipedia pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.231.182 (talkcontribs) 24:57, July 3, 2007

Help:Multilingual support might help. I found that under the "Translation:" heading just below User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Tra, where you can find some related links, if you need more help. --Teratornis 04:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Irishaye user may be using spam[edit]

hello

I have observed on "Aleksander Balos" entry, a repeated entries by Irishaye that are unfound , not supported and irrelevant to the subject. I have corrected to the previous version times and time again, but Irishaye keeps coming back with ..

Thank you

Thanks for bringing this up. In this case, the Wikipedia policy on biographies on living persons is probably relevant, and I would suggest that in cases where such information is being included without sources you discuss it on (a) the article's talk page, and/or (b) the talk page of the editor making the contribution. While we do have some user warning templates such as {{uw-biog1}}, I would personally avoid using such a boiler plate warning in favour of something more personalised (e.g. "Thanks for contributing to Aleksander Balos. I'm concerned your edits may not follow our policy on biographies of living persons, and would ask you not to include such information without referencing reliable sources and/or discussing it on the article's talk page.") Confusing Manifestation 01:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do I delete my account called Bruce7777777?[edit]

You win! I've had enough and want to erase myself from Wikipedia.

How do I delete my account? It's called 'Bruce7777777'. Bruce7777777 01:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't. You leave, and you never edit again. Your account basically cannot be deleted, due to the GFDL. --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 01:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually you do have a right to vanish. Go to meta:right to vanish. We hate to see you go! JodyB talk 01:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but that doesn't involve deleting the account --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 18:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citing Wikipedia[edit]

It would be helpful if you listed a citation at the bottom of each article. If you need a good example, check out Merriam-Webster citations. Here is an example of the citation at the end of a M-W article:

"myth." Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com (3 Jul. 2007).

Thank you.

If you're wanting to cite a wikipedia article, just look on the left-hand side of the page. There's a "Cite this article" link right there. -- Kesh 02:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See: Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#How do I cite Wikipedia?. --Teratornis 04:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

image[edit]

7/3/07

I uploaded an image on June 30th and now I don't see it. Will it appear on the info page? The headshot is of Thomas Alonzo Hyde, III.

Thanks

According to your talk page and the deletion log, your image was speedy deleted because it didn't include appropriate source or licensing information. Because of our image use policy, we need images to be tagged appropriately with this information. So no, you can't see the image any more, and if you want to upload it again please make sure you follow the instructions to make sure it doesn't get re-deleted. Confusing Manifestation 03:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]