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October 3

Why my article didn't appear in its complete theme?

Greetings Wikipedia administrator...

I was trying to add a new article (about an artist called Benjamin Heine).. and i prepared it completely with its codes, and every thing is good.. But when i tried to add it, it doesn't appear.. just the first line or line and half.. and the rest of the document is disappeared... I kept trying and trying and searching for what's the problem .. but i can't fix it out.. So why did that happen?.

Thanks for your help...

With Respect..

Alshaimaa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alshaimaa (talk • contribs) 00:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to help, but there doesn't seem to be a page called Benjamin Heine. If there is a fragment, could you go there, copy the heading as it's represented there and paste it here so that we can take a look at it? Thanks. Accounting4Taste 00:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You had empty and unclosed reference tags throughout the article. They looked like this: <ref>. Such tags need to have a source added after that tag followed by an ending tag which would look like this: </ref>. I have fixed all of these problems. Please see WP:CITE and WP:FOOT for more information. Also, I think you would greatly benefit from taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the post above, the article is at Ben Heine‎ (a page move may be in order).--Fuhghettaboutit 00:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It was dumb of me not to look at the editor's contributions instead of tracking by cited name. Thanks for helping this user. Accounting4Taste 00:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes and their layout

I've been going through the articles for Playboy Playmates and have noticed quite a few pages where someone has deleted all the hard returns so that when someone edits the article, the infobox is all in one very long unbroken block of text instead of having each value of the infobox on its own line. This makes it really rather hard to read and edit the info. Is there a reason for this? Is it a memory conservation issue? If so, I doubt it's saving that much memory to outweigh the lost readability of the code. Dismas|^(talk) 00:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you give a link to this article? Thank you Martial BACQUET 00:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Not really since I've been putting the carriage returns back in when I find them. If you want an example of what the box looks like, go to any playmate's article such as Echo Johnson, Ashley Allen, Anna-Marie Goddard, etc. It doesn't hurt the layout of the article once saved, both ways show up correctly. But removing the returns decreases readability. Dismas|^(talk) 01:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Change article title? how

How do I change article name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreambuildersco (talk • contribs) 02:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Pages are renamed by moving them to new target names. This procedure preserves the page's edit history. Please do not rename a page by copying/pasting its content to a new page name. If you have an account and it is at least four days old, you can move a page yourself, but please first review Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you still wish to rename the page, go to it and click the move tab at the top (near the history and watch tabs). You can then specify a new name for the article. The old page name will automatically become a redirect to the new page. However, if the desired target page name already exists, you will need an administrator to move the page for you, which can be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Hope this helps.--Ybbor^Talk 02:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

How to request material be added to an article

I failed to find directions on how to post a request for missing information to be added to an article. Reading a very good article on reporter and talk show host, Les Kinsolving, there is nothing on his early life. Tonight (10/2/'07) I heard him say he was in the Army in WWII and think he said he became an officer in the Korean conflict.

How do I ask one of the contributors to his fascinating story to add information?

Thanks. Charles Moose —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmoose (talk • contribs) 03:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

If you think you can write the information up yourself, then go ahead - go to the article, click on an "edit" button, and start typing. If you're asking because you feel someone else could do a better job, go to the article's discussion page and add a comment there, preferably including a link to the article you read. Since the talk page may not be visited frequently, you could also look on the talk page for a "Wikiproject" banner, that will lead you to a discussion board filled with people who may be able to help as well. Confusing Manifestation 03:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Video sourcing

how do i properly cite a vidoe reference in a formal essay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.250.138.185 (talk) 03:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Translating a page into English

How might I go about translating content from a Japanese Wikipedia article to add to an English Wikipedia article? Is there some kind of template I should use? Some kind of category I should add? How do I reference a translation, exactly? Articles in question : オニヤンマ to Anotogaster sieboldii. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianAdler (talk • contribs) 05:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:TRANSL.--Mostargue 12:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

feedback for the image

I have nominated my image in Featured picture nominations/October2007, i dint get any feed back from user. What I have to do to get the feedback from the nominators?? --Cj.samson 06:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You have to place your nomination at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#Current nominations. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

changing the name of the page

The Name/Title of a page I created has lowercase letters where the world should be capitalized. How I do edit the page name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paloma5483 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can use the move function on the top of the page. See Help:Moving a page. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Your account was created today, so you will not have access to the move function for 4 days. You can request this kind of non-controversial move at Wikipedia:Requested moves without much trouble. Leebo ^T/C 13:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2 Source Code

Is there any way to get the source code of the main page for October 2 2007? I'd like to put it in my userpage because my picture was selected for the feature article that day. - Vicer 07:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Getting the whole Main Page might be tricky, but you can show just the POTD box with {{POTD/2007-10-02}}. Confusing Manifestation 08:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the help, but I was referring to the Featured Article which has my picture, and not the POTD. - Vicer 08:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

That would be {{Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 2, 2007}}. --ais523 09:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

That'll have to do, maybe I could rebuild that whole page using the templates *shrugs*. Thank you all for your help :) - Vicer 09:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism via starting new page

What are the procedures to remove vandalism that is in the form of starting a completely new page, as shown in Talk:Attrition (weathering) by 82.110.217.221? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saphius (talk • contribs) 10:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can blank the page or request speedy deletion, but registered users are doing it Martial BACQUET 10:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Place {{db-vand}} on the page and an admin will delete it for you. --ais523 10:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

public administration and libertanianism

Is public administration and libertarianism compatible?Why or why not?--Takotako85 12:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

See: {{dyoh}}. As to the homework question, the answer depends on who you ask, since everybody has a different concept of what your teacher's vague generalities actually do or should mean. Many people have a double standard resulting from self-bias, demanding "liberty" when they themselves feel like doing something, while simultaneously demanding more "public administration" when someone else's activity bothers them. You might find something to think about at Negative liberty#Negative liberty and authority: Hobbes and Locke. --Teratornis 13:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Template problem

I use Template:Infobox cricket tournament main for many of the articles I write on cricket but recently I noticed that the template seemed broke. For instance in my World Cricket Classic article the template heading is there but all the info I entered is not even though it can be seen when you edit the page. I don't have a clue about making templates but looking through the history of this one I've noticed that last week a user was restructuring it so I'm guessing he messed it up? Thanks in advance for any assistance.Crickettragic 14:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone moved the template and caused quite a few problems, i am trying to fix the documentation now, you haven't been forgotten, it's just taking some time to remedy. Woodym555 16:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, fixed the problem. Someone had moved the page and cleaned up the template without amending the documentation. The correct documentation can be found at Template:Infobox cricket tournament main/doc and the template is called Template:Infobox cricket tournament main now. Put simply, all the parameters were renamed and so none of the old parameters would have worked. By the By, you should be using Template:Infobox cricket tournament anyway as it is for a specific event if i am not mistaken. I have now used that on World Cricket Classic. Hope that helps. Woodym555 17:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Table and bolding

Why are the table and bolding not working together? This doesn't work "

Hello hello hello

" (<table>Hello <b>hello</b> hello</table>), but it works on the ordinary html environment. Neither does it work like this: "

Hello hello hello

" (<table>Hello '''hello''' hello</table>). I would be grateful for an answer. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Bold writing works with tables. Please look at Help:Table, to see how to create tables for Wikipedia. There you will see examples of bold text within tables and how to create it.--Thw1309 16:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the link. :) I did experimenting and looked around and found mostly out what I wanted. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 07:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If someone knows why bolding creates that mistake when written like I did it would be great to know it. :) Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 07:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Urgently need the company addreses

Dear Sir, I saw this very intrested website so now writing you this mail actually i am a manufacturer of army navy airforce uniforms and accessories etc so i need some companies postal addreses or e mail addreses of greek.I shall be thankfull to you for this if you can help me . looking forward Zaid Shaukat shamesha stitching company p o box 807 sialkot,pakistan www.shamehsa.20m.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.135.15.159 (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wikipedia cannot provide the information you are looking for. You will need to contact the the comapany directly to get their postal or email address. Leebo ^T/C 15:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking a section in another page

Is there a way to create a link which goes to another page to a specific section on that other page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gawatkin (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC) --Gawatkin 15:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the format is [[Name of page#Name of section]]. For instance, to link directly to this question, you would have [[Wikipedia:Help desk#Linking a section in another page]]. Leebo ^T/C 15:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Sure. What you do is type the name of the page, followed by a number sign (#) and the name of a section header within that page. By example, to link to this post, on this page, one would type Wikipedia:Help desk#Linking a section in another page.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

See more at Help:Section#Section linking - a case where a link to the answer actually answers the question by itself! PrimeHunter 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi

My IP is 76.113.25.140

These are my contributions.

15:55, 3 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Kapu (caste)‎ (Undid revision 162031937 by 76.113.25.140 (talk)) (top) 
15:40, 3 October 2007 (hist) (diff) Kapu (caste)‎ 
15:53, 20 September 2007 (hist) (diff) Komati (caste)‎ 

How can I delete all my contributions and not show them up again even in my IP Address History when a Reader tries to look at all my Contributions. I am a recent new user of Wikipedia and I wish you could help me. Thank you

What you are asking is impossible. A wiki automatically keeps track of exactly who makes what contributions in what places so that specific changes can be attributed to certain people. GlassCobra (Review) 16:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

When you made your edits, you agreed to license your contributions under the GDFL. Please read the therms of this license and you will understand, that the Wikipedia Foundation has the right, to keep them, even if you wish it to be deleted. --Thw1309 16:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

(I formatted your contributions by indenting them one space, so they would appear the way you probably wanted them to. We're not supposed to edit other people's stuff on the Help desk, but in this case you were obviously trying to format that information. I hope I did not offend anyone.) It's not entirely impossible for your edits to disappear, but it is unlikely. For example, if every article you edited should happen to get deleted, then ordinary users will no longer see your contributions (only administrators can see edits to deleted articles). However, wanting to hide your edits is not sufficient reason by itself to delete those articles. Sorry. Of course Wikipedia does delete a lot of articles, so you may get lucky. --Teratornis 17:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

In the interests of full disclosure, there are limited circumstances under which edits in revision histories are deleted. I do not think your request fits the criteria for such deletion, which is directed at removal of personal information or libellous edits. Such requests are made at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

warning: you have not entered an edit summary

When I undo an edit and place an edit summary in the edit summary box, I still get a warning that I haven't entered an edit summary. This started not so long ago. Has anyone else noticed this and is someone working on this? –panda 17:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

How peculiar! This has not happened to me, which is probably not that helpful to you. :) But you did ask, so I thought I'd let you know the problem is not universal. If it matters, I use Firefox. If nobody here can help you, you might want to pose the question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Good luck! --Moonriddengirl 18:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Largest page?

Could you please tell me which the largest page is on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.113.230 (talk) 18:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

According to special:Longpages, last updated on October 1, 2007, the winner by number of bytes is List of United Kingdom locations: Be-Bn .--Fuhghettaboutit 18:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

delet my account

how do i delete my wikipedia account because i am worried about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossm30 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. --Moonriddengirl 18:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You have two edits. The one where you posted this question and a vandal edit to a band's article. I don't see the concern. Dismas|^(talk) 20:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

What link do I follow to post an entry to Wiki?

I must be clueless - but I see no link to follow to post my own encyclopaedic entry!

Please guide me.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisK6500 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

This is typically done by searching for the desired name, and clicking on the red link that appears at the top of the page if the page you want doesn't exist yet. Alternatively, you can go to Help:Starting a page. Leebo ^T/C 18:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to add a little more, before starting a page, please review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, you might, as Leebo suggests, want to see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Columns?

Dear People Who Know Stuff: Is there a better way to do columns than I've done here? It's tedious to do and difficult to change. I'm hoping that somebody can point me to a technique that not only does it automatically but that will allow the insertion of future items that will then sort themselves magically into alphabetical order. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Next you'll be asking for the location of the philosophers stone; directions to the fountain of youth; where you can pick up an original copy of Tamerlane:-p--Fuhghettaboutit 21:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Alas, then. That sounds like a "no". :) --Moonriddengirl 21:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh no, I didn't know and reserve my right to be silly on occasion. Regarding the post below, that's certainly an easier method but note that it doesn't appear to work for Internet Explorer (working fine in Firefox).--Fuhghettaboutit 22:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Silly is good. :D And I'm very glad I use Firefox. --Moonriddengirl 12:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely you can, there is indeed a much better way ... go take a look at the wiki code for Pop_icon#Notable_pop_icons. While you're at it, add it to your watch-list and help keep people from adding their favorite flavor of skittles to the list. Oy vey, why I volunteered to help out on "pop culture" articles I'll never know ... but I digress. dr.ef.tymac 21:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: the alphabetic sorting you will have to do yourself, mind you, but that should be an easy cut-n-paste from your favorite text editor or word processor, especially since it can all be in one nice long neat list without all those HTML {br/}'s in there and stuff. If your favorite doesn't have this feature, find a new favorite. dr.ef.tymac 22:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh lovely! Thank you so much! That's going to make my album-article-creating life much easier. :D (No skittles, check.) --Moonriddengirl 22:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: Hold off for a bit though on the article itself, at least for fifteen minutes or so, if you don't mind. I may have even better news for you. (stay tuned). dr.ef.tymac 22:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Done: The list is now (kinda) sorted on last name with all the formatting gone (after doing some semi-complete text processing). You will notice that some last names are still not in correct order, those are left as an exercise for whoever wants to either: 1) finish cleaning it up; or 2) revert and go back to the way it was before. HTH. dr.ef.tymac 22:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow! That's fabulous. Thank you so much for taking the time to help out with that. :) --Moonriddengirl 23:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

WHOIS

How do I identify a user's IP address from his/her username? I'm suspecting a case of sockpuppetry, where an IP address is making edits that are extremely similar to those of a blocked user, and I think this is a good first step, to do a WHOIS on both of them... except I don't know how to do that. If this is NOT the best first step, any guidance would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Accounting4Taste 19:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't find out a user's IP address. You may request at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser that a user with this ability do so, but there are requirements for such a request, as seen at the top of that page. Leebo ^T/C 19:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I'll go that route. Much obliged for your prompt response. Accounting4Taste 19:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You can, of course, do half of what you want on your own, by running WHOIS on the IP address. See the WHOIS article. This usually doesn't tell you a person's name, but it should at least identify the Internet access provider. --Teratornis 06:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Writing an inmate

How would in found out what level is an inamte in to write to him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.234.135.198 (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You might try contacting the facility in which the individual is an inmate directly. If you want further assistance in figuring out how to do that, you might try asking at the reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You'll probably need to give them slightly more specific information, however, in order for them to offer any help. --Moonriddengirl 19:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

addressing by surname

can someone point me to the mos guide covering the use of a subjects surname in articles? e.g. "Bush did this and Bush did that." vs "George did this and George did that." thanks! --emerson7 19:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) is the one you want. The information is found under "subsequent uses of names". :) --Moonriddengirl 19:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

thank you soooo much....cheers! --emerson7 21:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

lone months and years

Where's the guideline that says something along the lines of "lone months and years should not generally be linked..."? I saw it a while back but can't find it now. Dismas|^(talk) 19:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#Dates, a supplementary article to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). --Kjoonlee 21:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Just what I was looking for! Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 21:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

create a new page

Hi,

I would like to know how to create a page, but hold it before it goes online. I want to create the page and ask for aproval before other people see it and that might take more than a week.

Thnk you very much for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinahmartins (talk • contribs) 20:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

There's no way to do it with ordinary articles, but you can use your own userspace page for the job. Try making User:Marinahmartins/temporary page and editing it there. You can move the page (Help:Moving a page) later on. (You might want to delete the resulting redirect.) --Kjoonlee 20:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

But in this case, will people be able to see it even if for a temporary time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marinahmartins (talk • contribs) 21:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia edits are public. You cannot make a page which can only be viewed by your account. But you could choose to never save the page on Wikipedia. You can use preview to see what it will look like and save the source text in a text file on your own computer. It would give more work to copy it back and forth when you edit it. It's easier to use a user subpage like User:Marinahmartins/temporary page and few or no people will notice it (especially if you pick a new name which isn't linked from here). PrimeHunter 21:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Assessment stats is rendering improperly...

As per discussion here, there is an issue with the transcluded assessment statistics at the bottom of the project's sidebar being rendered improperly when using Firefox. Is this a problem that can be easily fixed or is it a MediaWiki issue? Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola 21:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Jeri Thompson

Hi. I've found an article Jeri Thompson that uses terms like Mrs. and Sen. - which doesn't seem to be the norm on Wikipedia. Is that a problem? Thanks.

No. --wpktsfs 22:36, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

In that instance, the titles help the reader know which "Thompson" is being referred to, Jeri or her husband. Dismas|^(talk) 22:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand, but you can do that by saying "Fred" and "Jeni". I've seen royal titles and "Sirs" deleted, and I remember reading somewhere that titles are to be avoided. I'll look for that page again. 69.201.150.130 00:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Stylistically, "Mrs" would be more appropriate for the tone of an enyclopedia article than "Jeni," if a distinction needs to be made that makes "Thompson" impractical. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

(reset indent) Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) would seem to suggest that the subject of the article be referred to as "Thompson" while her husband be disambiguated with first or complete name. --Moonriddengirl 00:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

TOMAHAWK CHOPS page needed why did u deleted

I was trying to educate the masses on the TOMAHAWK CHOPS Steaks not the team about the way to cook a steak TOMAHAWK CHOP and how nice it looks but my page was deleted, could you tell me if ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steaklover (talk • contribs) 23:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not the good place to ask this question. Refer to WP:DP Martial BACQUET 23:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

According to the deletion logs, the page was deleted under Criteria for Speedy Deletion G12, for blatant advertising. Please see this page for what is considered advertising on Wikipedia and this page for other items that are considered unencyclopedic. For future reference, you may also want to read the Frequently Asked Questions before posting - you'll usually get a faster response. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, but wikiHow is. WikiHow wants to be the world's largest how-to manual; maybe you can help them. For general information, also see: Why was my article deleted? --Teratornis 06:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)