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July 20

Help with messed up ref tag

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 01:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Could someone take a look at Fooled Around and Fell in Love and see what's wrong with the "cite web" template in ref #3? I can't find the problem and don't know how to fix it.--Jayron32.talk.say no to drama 23:14, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Spaces in urls are bad. Algebraist 23:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Moo cho bway no. Grassy ass. --Jayron32.talk.say no to drama 23:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Assistance with Pages

Resolved

 – Dogposter (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Is there a way to raise awareness about a page that you think needs help from professionals? Dogposter (talk) 00:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You could tag it with {{expert}} or {{expert-subject}} (explaining the problems you see on the article talkpage) and leave a note on the talkpage of the appropriate WikiProject. What is the article in question? Algebraist 00:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The article is Measles vaccine. It is very short and I think it needs some expert help. Dogposter (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Try leaving a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine, then. Algebraist 00:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson height and weight

Hello, could you give me the height and weight of the "King of Pop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.51.193 (talk) 01:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at Michael Jackson or ask at the Reference Desk. – ukexpat (talk) 02:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

article doesn't show up on search

Hello,

I posted an article a week or so ago, but it doesn't show up on search unless you specificaly search for "tormented short film": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tormented_(short_film) I read the article has to be "moved" but I can't do that since I haven't written the 10 articles I need to be able to do that myself. I read there's a "request moves" thing but I can't find a way for it to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemirc (talk • contribs) 02:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't need moving, it's already in the mainspace at Tormented (short film). It showed up when I searched for it. – ukexpat (talk) 02:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It takes a little while for the name to show up in a search. For example, I created a new article this weekend. Shortly after creation, I couldn't find it using search. (As an aside, the search box on the left wouldn't find it at all, but the search box that comes up in the page would find it, if I typed in the exact reference.) After some time, the article would show up if I typed in part of the name. I know it took more than a few minutes, but it was working an hour or so later.--SPhilbrickT 14:04, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles that read like ad copy or a press release

Talbots reads in a very laudatory way, as if the company had written the article. What's the tag I can add to the top of the page to invite other users to perform a stylistic overhaul? Thanks. Emiao (talk) 04:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

{{advert}}. Toodles. --Jayron32.talk.say no to drama 04:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

NORTH ORISSA UNIVERSITY LAwexam result 2008

bireshwar bhadra rollno ******** reg no *****/**** —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bireshwarbhadra (talk • contribs) 05:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Your personal details have been removed, as this is a public website, highly visible throughout the world. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 06:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Past help desk records

How can I view past topics on the help desk which have disappeared on the help desk?--Mikespedia (talk) 05:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Click on the 'archived discussions' link in the grey box at the top. Algebraist 05:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Finding category intersections

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

On WP:CAT it claims that one can use incategory:"B-Class Canada-related articles" incategory:"Unknown-importance Canada-related articles" (for example), but two problems: first, doesn't work when categories are given by templates (as with project banners, which is the issue here), and the incategory: thing doesn't seem to work anymore anyway.

So how can I find intersections between categories? → ROUX ₪ 07:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I think that the CATSCAN tool can do this. I haven't used it myself, however. (I also found a feature request for category intersection, which might have some more information). --Kateshortforbob 10:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! → ROUX ₪ 10:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

legend for a picture

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I need to insert a legend for a picture in the description section. Can someone please help? Thank you in advance. Maziotis (talk) 09:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

As in a caption? You can do so using the format [[File:Example.png|thumb|Example image caption]] . In infoboxes, there will usually be an "image caption" field to which you can add a caption. If you need more information, you can give us the title of the page and the image you want to make a caption for, and someone should be able to help. (See also extended image syntax.) --Kateshortforbob 10:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

No, not a caption. I want to add this legend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=303102531

to this picture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Survival-countries.PNG

I would probably want to add some other information, I guess I could experiment from there. Thank you very muc for the help. Maziotis (talk) 10:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It seems I found another problem. Even though I was careful to use each color of each code in the map, Myrtle (color) and Forest green appear to have the same colot in the legend. Maziotis (talk) 10:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you mean about the legend. It might be easier to incorporate the image into the table, in that case, with a cell for the image spanning the two columns for the legend. As far as the colour difference goes, I can see a very slight difference in shade between the top two cells (the difference seemed a little more detectable to me using a colour picker), but not as noticeable as the differences in colour in the image. --Kateshortforbob 10:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Having fiddled around a little, I got this:

Countries which have tribes with whom Survival works, in The Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia. Some of them, like Brazil, have several tribes, scaterred trough out the land.The Pygmies are spread across several countries in Central Africa
	more than 1 million
	250 000 to 1 million
	50 000 to 250 000
	5 000 to 50 000
	less than 5 000

or you could incorporate the legend into the image itself, which might resolve the colour reproduction problem.--Kateshortforbob 10:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

There is also a {{legend}} template that will do the colored boxes. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Would I just copy/paste this into the "description" field? I tried to copy/paste something like this but it didn't show up. I don't know what I did wrong. Meanwhile, I think I am going to go ahead and upload a version with the incorporated legend. I Think this could be the best solution Maziotis (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess that with this solution I could put the list of tribes in the description field. I am afraid that I can't incorporate this in the "description" field of the template either. It is something like this.

The Americas:

Brazil - Akuntsu - 6 - Awá - 300 - Enawene Nawe - 500 - Guarani - 80 000 - Indians of Raposa-Serra do Sol - 18 000 to 20 000 - Yanomami - 32 000 - Brazillian indians - 350 000

Colombia - Arhuaco - 8 000 to 10 000 - Nukak - 400

Paraguay - Ayoreo - 5 000 - Enxet - 17 000

Canada - Innu - 15 000 to 20 000

Peru - Uncontacted Indians - 3 500 to 4 500

Argentina - Wichí - 40 000

Africa:

Botswana - Bushmen - 100 000

Kenya - Maasai - 300 000 - Ogiek - 20 000

Ethiopia - Mursi, Bodi & Konso - 215 000

Sudan - Nuba 1 million

Central Africa - Pygmies - 250 000

Asia & Australasia

Australia - Aborigines - 250 000

Indonesia - Amungme - 13,000 - Papuan Tribes - 2.2 million

Philippines - Batak - 300 - Palawan - 40 000

India - Dongria Kondh - 8 000 - Jarawa - 200 to 300

Bangladesh - Jummas - 600 000

Russia - Kanthy - 22 500 - Siberian Tribes - 200 000

Malaysia - Penan - 10 000

Sri Lanka - Wanniyala-Aetto - 2 000

Maziotis (talk) 11:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey. Thank you very much for the help. This might need some more details, but overall I think it's done. Maziotis (talk) 12:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Display problems.

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I recently formatted my HDD and then I installed IE8 and everything looks fione except when going to Wikipedia articles, pages look like this: http://img259.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90509_IE8_122_45lo.JPG

When I visit other Wikipedia -style pages, there are no problems. Also before I formatted my HDD, I had IE8 and everything was fine. How do I solve this issue? — McYaballow (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

That is indeed odd. Have you tried to bypass your cache? — QuantumEleven 12:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks, that worked! McYaballow (talk) 13:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

unemployment ?

July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TNXMan 13:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

movie posters

I want to upload a low resolution movie poster image under "fair use". How do I do that without getting rejected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiYeahGuy (talk • contribs) 13:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, have you read Wikipedia's Guide to Uploading Images? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Can I adjust the "new section" feature on my talk page?

I'd like to add a "to do" list to the bottom of my talk page. But my purposes would quickly be defeated if someone clicked "new section", since that would add content below my to-do list. Is there a way to force the "new section" feature to insert content above that point? Thanks. Agradman ^talk/_contribs 13:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You can use some absolute positioning CSS rules to force the todo to the bottom of the page. A better solution would be to create it as a subpage and link it from your main user page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Or, even better, create it in a subpage and transclude it on your user page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Subpage and link or Subpage and transclude are both interesting options, but how does either respond to OP request that it be at the bottom of the page (I don't get why that's desired, but that's not the issue). Wouldn't a link or a transclusion remain in the same place, with new sections coming in below?--SPhilbrickT 14:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

copyright

I'm starting a new soccer website and i need a lot of info about soccer. Can I copy it from Wiki and edit it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.242.236 (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You can, but you must cite Wikipedia as the source of the info. See this page for more info. TNXMan 14:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

How do I spread awareness of a nifty new template I co-created?

Is there an appropriate page on Wikipedia where I can describe the characteristics of a nifty new template that I helped create? The template is {{refideas}}, and my announcement would look something like this.

Thanks Agradman ^talk/_contribs 14:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused. Your proposed announcement indicates you have used the template a number of times, but the only article you cite doesn't appear to use it. Am I right, or am I missing something? You then make reference to Congressional Research Service, but that is linked to something else. It sounds like a potentially interesting idea, but I can't evaluate it based upon what I've seen.--SPhilbrickT 14:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

apologies -- I rewrote my "announcement":

1. I now indicate that the template appears only on talk pages (which is why you were unable to find it).
2. I revised CRS Reports to redirect to Congressional_Research_Service#CRS_Products, since that is what it means (rather than Congressional Research Service.) Agradman ^talk/_contribs 15:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

• To see where the template appears: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Refideas.
• When I find a reference that editors can potentially use to improve an article, I format it into a {{Cite web}} or other suitable reference template, and then I annotate it into an ordinary comment on a talk page. See for example Talk:Environmental effects of wind power#Bats again. Without some guidance as to what specifically the reference brings to the article, all the burden falls on the reader to figure that out. We already have the Wikipedia:External links section for listing references that may assist other editors in developing the article.
• To promote a template, just use it. If other editors find it clever, they will use it too. I've made a few templates; some have become somewhat popular, like Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Google custom, while some of the others seem useful only to me. I don't really care who uses the templates I create, but I do get annoyed when someone deletes them. So in that sense, a widely-used template is better because it's less likely to get deleted.

--Teratornis (talk) 18:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Teratornis (as usual) has good advice on how to promote it. I'd like to see some discussion of whether the articles qualify as wp:RS. Yes, I understand who wrote them, and I don't disagree that they are RS if they are what they purport to be. However, they have been "filtered" through Wikileaks, and that raises some questions that deserve answers. For example, if I made up a document in CRS format, and submitted it to Wikileaks, how do we know that they would catch it and not post it? if we don't know that for sure, how do we know the reliability of anything on Wikileaks? I realize the reports themselves have ample references, which could be useful, but that doesn't support your goal of using them directly. Second, let's be careful about proposing that people copy and paste directly. that's plagarism, unless pasted as quotes and properly referenced. Third, my understanding is that some material created by the government is in the public domain, I thought there were exceptions, so that should be researched. Sorry if this sounds like it is negative, that isn't my goal, I'm planning to check myself to see if there's some good material relevant to some articles, but I want to make sure we don't open a Pandoras box. I don't have the time to do it this moment, but perhaps there should be a discussion here: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard--SPhilbrickT 19:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I have been using {{tasks}} for this, specifically the update parameter. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks, this is helpful feedback. As a side note, my main interest is in drawing people's attention specifically to encyclopedic public domain government publications, which largely means CRS reports but can include GAO reports; I'll also add that there do exist less "suspect" sources of CRS reports than Wikileaks at universities and such, e.g. [1].
• For that reason, my personal opinion is that this template serves a distinct purpose from ==See also==, and that it's helpful in that it displays a link to Category:Articles which could have free content incorporated from elsewhere. I certainly don't want to impose its use on people who don't like it, but I do want to allow people who might like it to know the option's available. Posting at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard sounds like a good next step. Agradman ^talk/_contribs 20:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Manfred Mann song Blinded by the Light written Bruce Springsteen

In the lyrics of the song they mention being pick up by a "curly whirly. What is a curly whirly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Go4gatorsfl (talk • contribs) 14:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I would going to say This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk , but as I know the answer to this, I will respond on your user talk page! PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

See Cadbury Curly Wurly. – ukexpat (talk) 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'd be surprised if Bruce Springsteen knew about our lovely chocolate bar! He recorded the song in 1972 - the bar was released in 1971, and was known as the "Marathan Bar" in the US (not to be confused with the British chocolate bar which was called Marathon). To quote what I wrote on the OPs talk page: "The actual answer is... no one knows! One possible answer is given here: Lyrics to Blinded by the light. The most likely explanation, though, is that Bruce Springsteen simply wanted a phrase to rhyme with Early Pearly at the beginning of the line! PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

deleting wiki pages

what can i do if someone has deleted an article that should not have been deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsyeruncle33 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Which article was it, and what reason was given for deleting it? Why do you think it should not have been deleted? On Wikipedia, there are three methods of deleting articles generally - Speedy Deletions, where the article clearly does not meet the criteria of Wikipedia articles and can be quickly deleted; Proposals for Deletion where the article creator/other editors have a week to bring it up to the standards expected for articles; and Article for Deletion, where the pros and cons of the article being deleted are decided, and a consensus taken. Do you know which process was used? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Incidently, there are relatively few users on wikipedia who have the authority to delete a page - you can't even delete one of your own sub-pages! Whichever of the three routes given above are used, only an administrator can actually delete the article. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It was an administrator, Nja 247, who deleted an article on Merchant Equity Partners, which was a completely accurate article. i didn't create it, but i don't understand why it was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsyeruncle33 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure to what you are referring, as you have no deleted contributions. You can see all of the contributions that you've made listed here. TNXMan 15:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

OP left message on my talk page - the deleted article was Merchant Equity Partners and it was speddily deleted for the following 3 criteria

• G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion
• G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement (i.e. copying copyright material from a website, book, etc)
• A7: An article about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant.

As such, it was correct that it should be deleted. However, like Tnxman, I do not see why you are concerned, as you did not create the article. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe secondary account of Reidzy (talk · contribs). --59.95.98.25 (talk) 16:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

ok, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsyeruncle33 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment to User:Phantomsteve: are you implying that you have never looked for content you saw on Wikipedia earlier, only to discover that you cannot find it again? The contributor(s) of the content are not the only people potentially harmed by its deletion. Anyone who wants to refer to the content again is also harmed. --Teratornis (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I am implying nothing! The OP asked what to do about an article they thought had been incorrectly deleted. I found the details of the page (after they had told me what the article was) from the Deletion log and posted the details here. This showed why it was deleted - basically as it did not comply with the criteria for inclusion on wikipedia. I'm not sure that anyone is harmed by its deletion - nothing that is taken off wikipedia will harm anyone - and the whole purpose of wikipedia is that it contains useful, non-advertising, non-copyrighted information. Anything which does not meet these three basic criteria should not be on here, and that article just did not meet them. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Ive heard of something called deletionpedia. that contains articles that were deleted from wikipedia. Thats about all i know of it though i dont know if the information youd want would actually be there Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletionpedia doesn't catch everything deleted from Wikipedia, but it's worth a look. – ukexpat (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. Apart from an infobox, the article was an exact copy (down to punctuation and use of "our" and "us") of the text box at http://www.merchantequity.eu. It is blatant advertising and was correctly deleted. It was also a copyright violation of the company website, but fixing that wouldn't have avoided deletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

new EDA company page created and inserted into EDA company book?

I am a novice editing content on Wikipedia. I did some minor edits of previous pages and they were successful.

But I have never created a new page/stub for an established book. What is the process to do this? Any hints to aid will be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wcmartin1 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

My advice would be to look at the page/stub of a current book's article - and then adapt it to the book you want to create a page for. For example, look at Aliens_Stole_My_Body - this is a stub for children's science fiction novel. If you tell us which genre of book is it (or even which book it is), we might be able to find a book in that genre which you could use as a basis. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Change Email Address

I'm trying to change my e-mail address. How can this be done? Also, why do pages show the "This article is written like an advertisement" when they don't seem like an advertisement at all? If writing a page for a company, does one have to register as a company or does it not matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SIAsnowsports (talk • contribs) 15:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

If you're referring to the email address used by Wikipedia, simply click on the "My preferences" tab at the very top of this page. There will be a place for you to enter the email address you wish to use. TNXMan 15:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding "written like an advertisement", may I suggest you read "Advertising masquerading as articles"? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

If you are writing a page about a company you are involved with, you may have a conflict of interest. If you can write using a neutral point of view there is no reason why you should not write the article, although it is wise to make a note of your connection with the company on the article's Talk Page. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Biotechnic & Histochemistry

Hello!

I would like to know how I can get our journal, Biotechnic & Histochemistry to be listed by Wikipedia, i.e., when you type in Biotechnic & Histochemistry it appears on your website?

Many thanks, Karen McCauley Asst. to the Editor Biotechnic & Histochemistry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.165.127.1 (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

• By the way, I'd like to commend you for making this inquiry before attempting to write the article; Wikipedia is drowning in attempts at self-promotion, ranging from very-bad-faith, to very-good-faith like yours (apparently) is. While I can't promise you that your work product will survive all these standards, you can leave a message at my talk page if your work-product is being challenged -- again, I can't promise that I'll support your proposed edits, but I'll help you revise them to satisfy the rules. Agradman ^talk/_contribs 18:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Gijoeofficialposter.jpg

arch. trolling
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
why do you think you have the right to use this poster on your website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gijoeofficialposter.jpg? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC) you are aware that you do not have any right to display this picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Actually, it is believed that we do. Please read the links listed in {{Non-free poster}} for more info. TNXMan 16:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC) that does not tell me anything, its just a standard template which you are using to hide behind, that template has no meaning to us at all, remove the picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC) See WP:FAIRUSE for more information. If you are the copyright owner please see WP:OTRS.  GARDEN  says no to drama 16:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC) (edit conflict) Actually, if you read the links that are listed in the template, you should find your answer. More specifically, read the info listed on this page for more detailed rationales. TNXMan 16:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC) the picture was not created in the united states of america —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC) that template only confines to 1 single country —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Well, the picture is hosted in the United States, so it's US law that applies. Please direct further concerns to WP:OTRS. TNXMan 16:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC) haha, rottentomatoes.com may be a usa website. however we want to know who gave you direct permission to use it. we dont care about where you downloaded it from —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC) how can we get in touch with your legal department —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe828 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Why do you believe it is wrong for it to be on wikipedia? Are you the copyright owner? If so, read Copyright Problems. If you still think it is a problem (whether or not you are the copyright owner), list it under Copyright Problems: 20 July 2009 - others more qualified will determine if the content should be deleted. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Good-bye. TNXMan 17:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC) to tnxman. We just want to be put in touch with your legal people. You obviously know nothing about this situation so just give me your legal email and I will leave you to what ever it is you do —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe989 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC) you cant block us because we will just create more account using different ip's. foundation:Designated agent. CU may be needed to do rangblocks. --59.95.99.172 (talk) 17:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Several people have already told you where to go if you are the copyright owner and want to send an email about this: WP:OTRS. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Thankyou very much 59,95,99,172. Take care and all the best for the future. Follow you dreams —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gijoe989 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Recent Vandalism

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

This article (common misconception) has recent vandalism - while I can undo simple things, I haven't learned enough to address this. --SPhilbrickT 17:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Reverted. See Help:Reverting; you can also use JavaScript tools to revert quickly. --59.95.102.218 (talk) 17:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Learning how to use revert tools is on my to-do list, thanks for responding so quickly.--SPhilbrickT 18:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

McDonalds

McDonalds resturant history and where does teh name come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.56.149 (talk) 17:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about McDonald's. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 17:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

See how many hits your articles get

Hi There,

I just recently wrote my first article and I want to see how many people have read it. How can I do thi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurverr (talk • contribs) 18:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Your article is still in your userspace at User:Laurverr/Dietrich Stephan. When it's ready it will have to be moved to the mainspace. It still need some work though - take a look at WP:RS and WP:MOSBIO. – ukexpat (talk) 18:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

As for a hit counter: The MediaWiki software has such a feature, but it is disabled on English Wikipedia to increase server efficiency. —teb728 t c 18:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

There is an external site though[2]. --59.95.102.218 (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I always find i want to check this on newly created pages i write up. 59.95 is right about stats.grok.se, you can easily access this site by clicking on page history on any page on wiki and there is a link for "Page view statistics" next to external tools. I prefer to use the direct link because sometimes its easy to write the article name wrong when you do your own search. If your observing your own articles though, be careful, because youll need to subtract the number of times you visited the site yourself for the number. Hope this helps Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Biographical Info Box

I am writing my first article (a biography) and want a bioraphical info box on the right hand side. How do I position it there? and how do I find a good one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurverr (talk • contribs) 19:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Person

{{Infobox Person
|name        = 
|image       = 
|alt         = 
|caption     = 
|birth_date  = {{Birth date|YYYY|MM|DD}}
|birth_place = 
|death_date  = <!-- {{Death date and age|YYYY|MM|DD|YYYY|MM|DD}} -->
|death_place = 
|other_names = 
|known_for   = 
|occupation  = 
|nationality = 
}}

Use this code at the top of page (without the < pre > tags). --59.95.100.123 (talk) 19:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, but how do I place it on the upper right hand corner of the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurverr (talk • contribs) 19:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It automatically goes to the top right. I've added it here [3], but more information needs to be filled into it (birth place, occupation, nationality etc.) 59.95.100.123 (talk) 19:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Page move vandalism

How is it reverted? 94.196.30.228 (talk) 19:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Usually by moving the page back to the proper place. An admin has to do it though, since you have to move the page over a redirect. TNXMan 19:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I suppose, you could copy-paste ConnorJack (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

No! See WP:Cut and paste moves. It's a lot less hassle if you wait for an admin. Also, it does not require an admin unless there have been subsequent edits to the original page; anyone can move a page back, over the original redirect. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC) p.s. I should point out, you could report such vandalism at WP:AIV, and the blocking admin will fix the vandalism after he/she blocks the vandal. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

To be precise, you have to be autoconfirmed but not an admin to move a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You still need to be an admin to delete a redirect to zap the page back to it's original name. ZooFari 21:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I know I was imprecise earlier, but I think the rest of my statement is correct; you do not need to be an admin to revert a page move, if there were no intervening edits to the original page name. The redirect does not need to be deleted. Proof:

Move: [4]

Undo move (with redirect still there): [5]

You do need an admin if you want to delete the new (vandalism) page name, or if the original page has an intervening edit. but not just to move over a redirect. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Right. This is described at Help:Moving a page#Moving over a redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops, thanks. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Help with references

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I've looked for an answer before posting before posting here but cannot find one. How do I make multiple links to a the same reference without it "stacking" at the ref section. Such as the ref being labeled as a,b,c etc seen here - [[6]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikerooney (talk • contribs) 22:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:NAMEDREFS. May I ask where you looked? You can't improve our help pages unless we know how they are failing people. Algebraist 22:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the link, I'm really grateful for it. I checked the cheatsheet and the references page, but I must have missed that link, my bad.Mikerooney (talk) 22:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

articles

Hi there! Does someone know how to create articles in a fast way? Karl Prall (talk) 22:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It depends on what you mean by in a fast way. If you mean creating an article with an infobox, etc, using a template, the easiest way is to find a similar article (for example if it was about a TV programme, find another TV programme already on wikipedia) and then modify it to fit your one. Otherwise, it's a case of typing and citing refs etc... there is no fast way, as far as I know PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

If someone tries to create an article the fast way without showing notability and without citing reliable sources or by copying from a copyrighted source, their article will get deleted the fast way. —teb728 t c 22:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Quite right - I should have noted that in my reply. Thanks for adding that, teb PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe you mean article creation using bots or scripts. WP:History of bots has some examples of how this has been done in the past. If you want to explore this avenue, see WP:BOT. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

And let's not forget the Article Creation Wizard - I have never used it so I don't know how well it works, but there it is. – ukexpat (talk) 14:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Page move

If someone keeps moving a page not according to the naming convention even after I warned them, what should I do? --impactF= 23:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

What have you tried so far? Assuming the other user's actions aren't straightforward vandalism, discussing it with that user (and on the talk page of the article affected) is the best place to start. If discussing with the other editor doesn't yield progress, the advice at dispute resolution is a good next step. You may need to involve an admin if you are sure the moves are unwarranted but are unable to reverse page moves across redirects yourself. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)