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May 28

Editing article title

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 – Page moved. – ukexpat (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I created a wikipedia page for rap group "Team Facelift" but i accidentally didn't capitalize the "f" in the article title. i know how to edit the actual article, but how do i edit the title to capitalize the F?

Thank you.

BobbyLobster (talk) 00:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I have moved Team facelift to Team Facelift. Your account is not autoconfirmed yet so you cannot move pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Forum for template coding issues?

Is there a specific place where one can go to get help with coding templates? -- billinghurst (talk) 07:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

• The Village Pump (technical) is probably a good bet. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
• Or Wikipedia:Requested templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

sometimes you can also get help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates. Calliopejen1 (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How to edit a section in a tabbed page?

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

For most pages, I can see an edit link to edit a particular section. I don't see on this tab enabled page, such as Wikipedia:Tutorial_(Wikipedia_links). Any Good method to see the link to edit a section in a tabbed page? --Amol.Gaitonde (talk) 09:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The tabs are links to separate pages and not to sections of the same page. Click on a tab and then click "edit this page" at top to edit the page displaying the text for that tab. Section editing is disabled on those pages by transcluding __NOEDITSECTION__ from Wikipedia:Tutorial/TabsTop. I guess this is to prevent new users reading the tutorial from editing the sections by mistake. The pages are also semi-protected to avoid test edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very Much. --Amol.Gaitonde (talk) 15:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Creating those boxes

When i see other people's user pages, i find these cute little boxes, which say things like "This user has stepped in 56 countries of the world" and things like that. Can somebody please explain to me how that is done ? I would like to customise my user page. Rkr1991 (talk) 09:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Those are userboxes - you can find out how to add them to your page at the link; there's also a gallery of pre-made boxes you can use. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Using Zotero for references?

I've just installed Zotero to help with doing references, but don't understand how to use it to cite in Wikipedia format? In the citing section on here it says right click & click export, but I don't have that option(the new Zontero beta). Any help/advice for an easier way to do it etc. much appreciated. Thanks! Dottydotdot (talk) 10:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

So— you already have your reference stored in Zotero. to export it to Wikipedia:

• Setup:
  • Pull down on the gear icon and select preferences
  • Select the export tab
  • Set Default Output Format to Wikipedia Citation Templates
  • Select OK
• Export
  • Click on the top level reference (has a + or — to the left)
  • Ctrl Alt C to copy
  • Open the Wikipedia page for editing
  • Ctrl V to paste
  • Examine the output and tweak as needed. It will be in vertical format, convert to horizontal as desired.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

ParserFunctions question

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Can #ifexist be used to check the existence of category pages? It seems to never see category pages when I am testing it. I want to have a certain template give an error if the category it wants to put something in doesn't exist. Calliopejen1 (talk) 11:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, it works just fine. I was enclosing the category names in square brackets like an idiot... Calliopejen1 (talk) 12:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Record Label/ companies

I've read your guidlines which suggest not to create band or personal pages but I see many artists and record label pages such as Warp Records. How do I add a page like this for my company label? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.141.232.229 (talk) 13:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TNXMan 13:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

• If you have a conflict of interest but are sure the subject meets our notability requirements, you could ask for its creation at our articles for creation page where uninvolved editors can work on it. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Jurisdictional districs by state

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Can I locate jurisdictional district maps by state? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optisgroup (talk • contribs) 15:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest that you search the website by using the search box at the right of the page by typing somthing like "New Jersey Jurisdictional districs" if you state was New Jersey. If you cant find it here try Google —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etineskid (talk • contribs) 21:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

re Henry Tayali

I found this article last week, started editing it, but kept getting caught up in edit conflicts with the creator so copied a revision to my user space to do a more significant re-write. In the meantime, the creator (a new editor) has continued to add to the article edits which also need work (for example, adding a Wikipedia mirror as a reference). Based on the personal information provided, I believe the creator is a relation to the subject, possibly his son; I do not wish it to appear that I am obliterating their work with a thorough re-write, nor do I wish to badger them - I have already left a welcome template and a note about a formatting issue on their talk page with no response.

1. The article has very few editors, and the subject is not high-profile. The relevant wikiprojects seem mostly inactive. What's the best way of initiating a discussion?
2. If I did end up re-writing the article based on the version in my userspace, how would I go about preserving the GFDL? As I am the only editor of the user page, would a cut-and-paste move work? What about integrating the information the creator has subsequently added to the article? I'm guessing this would be treated just as a straight re-write, rather than a page move?

Thanks --Kateshortforbob 15:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Cut-and-paste would destroy the GFDL. You need to integrate your edits into the existing piece instead, even though that's more work. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Moving images

Is it possible to get the right to move images without being an admin or above?--Rockfang (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that image moving has been disabled for everyone for technical reasons. Just upload the image again using the correct name and tag the incorrectly named version for deletion. – ukexpat (talk) 17:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict):No. File move is broken and disabled for all. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 18:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Photo use

Can I use the photos (pictures) of Lady Mary Wortley Mantagu (1689-1762) in my book? If you request a copy right, whom do I address to? Can youy e-mail the picture to me? ~~ ~ ~ ~ King-Thom Chung —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.225.109.56 (talk) 16:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

What page on Wikipedia are the pictures on?--Rockfang (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

If you are talking about the pictures on Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, then yes you can use them for whatever you like.--Rockfang (talk) 17:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Help finding Wikimedia Commons copyright help desk

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere in Wikmeida Commons there is a help desk for copyright questions. I know because I just posted a question there and got an answer but now I can't find it again. I keep going around in circles. Can someone please help me find it. Thanks.--Tomaterols (talk) 18:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

commons:Commons talk:Licensing. Nanonic (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Just check your contributions on Commons. They indicate that you posted your question at Commons talk:Licensing. – ukexpat (talk) 18:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Many Thanks to you both. I tried to track my contributions but I think I was only searching in Wikipedia. I'm just starting to get Wikipedia down pat. Wiki Commons is still something of a mystery. Great help!--Tomaterols (talk) 18:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You may find Commons:COM:EIC useful. --Teratornis (talk) 03:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyright Question

I created an article about a United States Navy unit that I was once assigned to. I sourced the official website history page as a basis of the article and included a reference link the the official government site. Another user deleted most of the article with a claim of 'copyright violation'. The source of the information is considered 'public domain' and not subject to copyright protection. Unless I am interpreting the term 'public domain' improperly, the information was incorrectly deleted since no copyright violation had occured.

Any way to prevent random users from improperly removing text that originated from the public domain in the future and avoiding a possible revert war? Thanks, TomNativeNewYorker (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Explain to them why it's public domain. We include a section at Wikipedia:Copyrights to which you can point them: Wikipedia:C#Source. While I'm sure it's not fun having to explain, this is one of those cases where obviously you both are operating in good faith with the best interests of the project in mind. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

When a text is inthe public domain or under permissive copyright license, we can copy the text without violating copyright law. However, we still must avoid the completely separate problem of plagiarism. Plagiarism is the use of material without attribution. it is possible to commit plagiarism without violating copyright, or to violate copyright without plagiarizing. At Wikipedia, we do not tolerate either. In general, when your actually incorportate text from a public domain source, you should not merely reference the source. you sholod instead add (in the reference section) a phrase "this article incorportates text from <your source here>, a work ihn the public domain." This ahould also alert ioverzealous copyright vigalanties to not remove the text, but if someone still removes the text, then re-insert it and add hidden comments within the text: <!--this text is copied from a public-domain source and is attributed. Please do not remove it-->. These comments are visible in the edit window but not inthe article. IF editors persist in removal, discuss it on the talk page as with any other content dispute. -Arch dude (talk) 11:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Account question

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I have tried to log in and register an account, but rejected as "invalid user name". My name is Jerry L. Clark (email removed). What should I do now?

I have already made several significant changes and additions to articles about several Cherokee Indians: James Vann, his son Joseph Vann, Major Ridge, and Charles R. Hicks. I would like to provide more information about Sequoyah and his uncle Capt. John Watts, as well as write an article about the 1844 explosion of the steamboat Lucy Walker (owned by Joseph Vann. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.188.23 (talk) 20:15, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Have you visited Special:UserLogin/signup and filled out the form correctly? If so, ensure that you are typing you username in correctly when logging in (silly, I know). If you are getting the "Invalid user name" error on the signup page, then you need to pick a new username. Xenon54 (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You can also try Wikipedia:Request an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Random Article Screen

Is there a way to use the "Random article" navigation button but have Wikipedia omit or by-pass articles in which have no interest by allowing me to set up a filter or screen of selected words and if a page has one of the words, the Random article feeder will not deliver that article?

Example, while looking at Random articles, I do not want to see any article about football players...can I set up "football" as a screen word someplace and have Wikipedia skip and not display any page containing "football"?

Thanks

RM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.229.9 (talk) 20:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No, at least not that I'm aware of. Special:Random does what it says on the tin. I assume it's pretty simple code-wise and any filter would simply take up unnecessary lines of code. Plus, if you had a large filter, it could use up serious amounts of resources as the server checks if each page passes your criteria. If you were able to limit the articles that were displayed, it wouldn't be too random, would it? Xenon54 (talk) 21:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You could be your own filter. Check out Special:Categories, pick a category that looks interesting, and start clicking on articles. There's about 3 kajillion categories, so you won't run out of things to look at any time soon. TNXMan 01:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Also see the links under WP:EIW#Random. I don't know of a way to do exactly what you want, but there are some other possibilities. --Teratornis (talk) 03:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Huggle

I'm having trouble installing huggle in mac. It tells me that it needs to be run in mono using windows executables. I followed the instructions X! wrote. Any help to resolve this would be nice. --I dream of horses (talk) 21:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm don't know personally how to solve your problem, but a good place to try would be Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback. You could probably get a better response there. Fingers^OnRoids 22:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I've tried that already. Nobody has been able to help. --I dream of horses (talk) 17:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)