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November 16

Article of "Christopher Busby"

Dear Wiki Desk

I read the "Christopher Busby" in Japanese site.

In spite of he is honest person and gives warning to Japan nuclear crisis. But all bad and emotionally things are written in Japanese. I do not hurt Dr. Christopher and Wiki I love. Please check and erase them. Thank your understanding and help. Kozue Yamamoto — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.61.210 (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

This is the Help desk for English-language Wikipedia (whose article on Christopher Busby does include some criticism). If your complaint is about the article on him in Japanese-language Wikipedia, you should raise it on its Help Desk; or better, on the Christopher Busby talk page there. I suspect that most editors here, like me, cannot read Japanese. Maproom (talk) 00:11, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I concur, it is an issue with the Japanese article and should be addressed over there. It appears to me that there are some negative/criticizing quotes about Busby that are uncited in the Japanese article about him (and have been marked as citation needed since February 2012). SassyLilNugget (talk) 16:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Ray Guarendi

The article on Ray Guarendi should mention that he is an advocate of corporal punishment, especially for children under three. He went on at length about this view during his broadcast on EWTN a day or two ago. To characterize corporal punishment as "common-sense parenting" is quite biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.148.122.100 (talk) 01:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

The place to discuss article content is on its talk page, in this case Talk:Ray Guarendi. That is where you communicate with editors interested in the article. —teb728 t c 07:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Can't find my page

I created a page and I can't find it via search "Kenneth M. Bailey" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.220.8 (talk) 02:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

You were not logged in when you posted here but I guess you are User:Kmb357 who created Wikipedia:Kenneth M. Bailey. Are you the subject? When you are logged in you can click "My contributions" at top of any page to see your edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

You apparently moved the draft page to Wikipedia:Kenneth M. Bailey, which is in the wrong namespace, (it should have been Kenneth M. Bailey without a prefix), and User:Jimfbleak then deleted it. This is why both these links are red: the articles don't exist. --ColinFine (talk) 11:52, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Judging from the message at User talk:Kmb357, I think the article was posted in the Wikipedia namespace and then moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kenneth M. Bailey. It was then deleted as "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". -- John of Reading (talk) 12:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Gadgets

For some reason, none of my gadgets are working. WikEd, HotCat, Popups and others are all gone. I checked my preferences, and the tab itself is gone, but I am still autoconfirmed and have all my user rights. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? StringTheory11 (t • c) 02:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Same here. No gadgets tab in Preferences. Twinkle is gone. By the way, I cleared out my cache thoroughly, with no improvement. Cresix (talk) 02:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

It's discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Missing Gadgets Tab. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Nigerian Civil War

One commandant is omitted among the Nigerian camp. And his was the long service commandant during the war. He was the one in control of 1 Division. His name was Mamman Shuwa. He was the one that captured Umuahia, Enugu among others. For more information check Daily Trust from 2nd to 9th November 2012. Also see the Nigerian Military History. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.30.245 (talk) 09:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

If you have information to improve an article, and the information is confirmed by a reliable source, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident to do that, the article's talk page is the best place to make a suggestion. --ColinFine (talk) 11:53, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Highlighting Diff text

Hi. I notice the appearance of diffs changed suddenly just after 21:00 UTC yesterday, meaning the text changes were no longer highlighted in bold. I thought this might be a software change, but after asking for help through my talk page another editor suggested it could be a Cascading Style Sheets issue. I've since discovered this problem only seems to occur in Chrome. Firefox and IE are fine just now. I do edit with a screen magnifier, and did also consider that as I've had a couple of issues with it in the past, but the text remains unhighlighted when I switch it off so I don't think that's the problem. Can anyone shed some light on what's happening? Thanks in advance. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I second the issue. Diff has stopped working correctly with Google Chrome. Please don't say to just use IE. To get around the problem for now I am using the wikEdDiff gadget, but it is not as good.BollyJeff | talk 13:20, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. It's useful as a stopgap, but hopefully someone can debug the original. Paul MacDermott (talk) 13:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I see now that it works on one computer, but not another, so it may be some setting. Does anybody know? BollyJeff | talk 13:25, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be back to normal on mine now. I'm wondering though, if it worked on one computer and not the other, whether it was something to do with an update. Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

No clue, but its working for me on all computers now too. BollyJeff | talk 17:16, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Image Upload Policy

I want to upload some image. But I have captured them in my camera from some books and daily newspapers. Can I upload them? Again I have captured a image of a great Indian player in field while he was playing. Can I upload that image? Thanks. pratyya (talk) 13:01, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

In general the publishers of books and newspapers retain copyright to the images in them. They are therefore not suitable for use on Wikipedia. Rojomoke (talk) 13:06, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

But a picture of a public figure that you took yourself is probably OK. --ColinFine (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Continuing Image Upload Policy

So can I Upload those image after some modification? Can I upload image or file from some other cite if get permission from them?--pratyya (talk) 13:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

No, modifying them will still infringe copyright. If you can get them to licence the image, you can use it, but it is not enough for them to say "Yes, you can put it on Wikipedia": the copyright owner must agree to licence the image irrevocably with one of the acceptable free licences. See WP:Donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 14:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Correction : Kashmiri Pandit festivals

NAVREH - This Holy festival marks the beginning of the New Year for Kashmiri Pandits like other Hindus of India. This new year day for Hindus falls on Chaitra Shukla Pratipadā (the first day of the bright fortnight of the Hindu lunar month of Chaitra).

NAVROZ - This festival marks the beginning of the New Year for Kashmiri Muslims and has no relation to Kashmiri Pandit New Year festival of NAVREH. This ritual is NOT same as the Haft Sin of the Iranian and Zoroastrian Nowruz.

Please correct the required details under....

Section - Navreh (Navroz) of the following site... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmiri_Pandit_festivals

Section - Festivals of the following site... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmiri_Pandit

Rockingvibes (talk) 13:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

If you have information to improve an article, and the information is confirmed by a reliable source, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident to do that, the article's talk page is the best place to make a suggestion. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:53, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

A captcha for deleting a link

I just deleted an inappropriate link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terre_Haute_International_Airport&diff=523352906&oldid=496606350 and had to enter a captcha, because I was supposedly adding an external link. Am I supposed to enter a captcha when removing links too, or is something not working right? 2001:18E8:2:1020:259B:F20D:F636:F65B (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I think the underlying principle is the same in both cases. We don't want unregistered accounts using bots to spam the encyclopedia with inappropriate website, but we also don't want these bots stripping the urls of their enemies. -Thibbs (talk) 13:48, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

List of largest buildings in the world

You are missing one of the biggest building in Canada in Edmonton Alberta

Supply Depot at the Edmonton Garrison The depot’s main warehouse building is 450 metres by 163 metres. It covers 7.5 hectares, and the interior space is more than half a million cubic metres – roughly equivalent to eight Home Depot stores.

The 32 million items held at 7 CFSD are endlessly varied, from tiny electrical components to winter tents to aircraft wings. “The truck pulls up and the door opens, and you never know what will show up,” said LCol Baker. “One day we unloaded sailboats that naval cadets had bought.”

Ref: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/commun/ml-fe/article-eng.asp?id=6771

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.137.245.209 (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I doubt that it qualifies, being less than one-fifth the size of the smallest building currently on that list, but if you think it should be there then you are free to add it yourself, but you need to provide a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia. The source you name may or may not not qualify. I'd suggest the addition on the talk page first, before boldly adding the listing to the article. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC) PS: My bad. I now see it might go in under the "Largest footprint" category. — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Emma Handy

Hi,

I have submitted a wiki page on 'Emma Handy' and am wondering when It will be going live on your wiki site? Would you be able to give me some info on this please?

Many thanks

RokafellaB — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.157.220.250 (talk) 17:38, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Your submission was declined. See Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Emma_Handy for what was wrong and what you might do next. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:49, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

How to make my talk page blue

I'm a new contributor and would like to know how to make my talk page blue. Thank you. Kenkentucky (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

If you mean the link to your talk page then the red means the page doesn't exist and blue means it does exist. I placed a welcome message on it so it now exists and has a blue link. (I'm assuming you aren't asking how to make the background of the page blue.) RJFJR (talk) 18:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!!!! I meant what you exactly did, thank you indeed!. Kenkentucky (talk) 18:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Template:Navbox help

Hello,

I was curious as to how to port over Template:Navbox over to a wiki I own. It is on one of the wikifarms, namely ShoutWiki. However, upon copying the wiki formatting (that apparently doesn't require 'HTML Tidy,' which is a program which I do not own) from here to my wiki, it turned up blank on the page preview. I only ask to obtain a simple navbox, maybe with an option to include an image as well, but that might not be necessary.

Thank you for your patience. Regards, RomeEonBmbo 18:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Will this template work if you simply copy-paste its wikitext? Can you do this as a test? Ruslik_Zero 19:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

No, I already tried that (as I said earlier) but it turned up blank. Regards, RomeEonBmbo 22:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

It also uses code in MediaWiki:Common.css. I don't know what exactly is needed but you could try copying all navbox and navbar code to MediaWiki:Common.css for your wiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

It works! Thank you! But there's a few problems:

• Hide/Show link at the right is missing.
• The V-T-E bar is vertical and appears to be in bullets.

Otherwise, all is good with this template. Thanks once again. Regards, RomeEonBmbo 01:06, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Collapsible navigation boxes use code in both MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css. See Wikipedia:NavFrame. Can you link to a saved example with your problems? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:31, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'll post the links below:

• The template of the Dropbox that has the problems
• Template:Navbox
• Template:Navbar and Template:Transclude, which went with Template:Navbox
• The Commas Css and the Common js which is updated to the best of my ability, and has code gibberish I do not understand

Also, the Hide/Show feature works now. The Common JS codes seem to have worked. All that I need to do is fix the V-T-E headings and I'm set. Thanks once again, you've all been a great help here! I honestly don't know how else to thank you... :) Regards, RomeEonBmbo 02:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

You may need the hlist code in MediaWiki:Common.css to make horizontal V-T-E links. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:32, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Once again, your help works! Thank you very much! Regards, RomeEonBmbo 02:12, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

wrong info

Hi you have the wrong city for James Davidson as the Mayor, it was Ottawa, not Toronto.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.20.134 (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Which article? Because James Davidson (Canadian politician) clearly says Ottawa... Which place did you read the wrong information? --Jayron32 19:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

The opening sentence correctly says Ottowa but the infobox said Toronto. I fixed it.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:47, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Brother Of Vicki Spencer

Hello my name is Danny Spencer, the drummer of the groups formly known as the The Rotten Kids, the Bubblegum Machine, Fablous Fakes, and Horatio. I am one of the Brother's Of Vicki Spencer, and the son of Lou spencer. My Brother Billy, Vicki,and myself were all in the band together. I writing to you for the reason of my name,and it is Danny Spencer which i was name after my godfather Danny Kaye, and my brother was Steven William Spencer, but his professional name he when by was Bill or Billy Spencer. I would appreciate it if you can make those changes on my sister site that you put up, and I would gladly tell you about myself also. Thank you, Danny Spencer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.70.240.43 (talk) 19:20, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of removing your repeated post, and also the leading space that was messing the format. May I suggest you post your request at Talk:Vicki Spencer, which is where changes to your sister's page should be discussed. It would help if you could provide references to support the information. Rojomoke (talk) 20:05, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

WikiTable not working

How come the rolspan thing on the tables for Governors of Hawaii (island) is no longer working?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

This is possibly caused by a change in the behaviour of the table sorter. If you change "wikitable sortable" to "wikitable" in the table header, the rowspans take effect again. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:15, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this is the tablesorter problem in bugzilla:41889. It should be fixed but the fix hasn't been deployed to Wikipedia yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:47, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Final decider?

I had a real beginner's question. In the event of a really intractable dispute, over sourcing and other things, is there an independent arbiter who can be called in to resolve? I'm looking at one particular page where I'm seeing protracted discussion, with really no resolution. I don't see any such mechanism in the help pages, but I thought I may have missed it. Coretheapple (talk) 20:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Take a look at the escalating levels of WP:Dispute resolution.--ukexpat (talk) 20:53, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

But the bottom answer is "no". All content decisions are made by consensus and there is no process or person that can make binding decisions over particular content edits, with only a few exceptions for such things as libel, copyright, and legal threats. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Though dispute resolution can ask for help/opinions from editors not involved in the dispute. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. It seemed that way. Just wanted to be sure. Coretheapple (talk) 02:29, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Imagine This: You have credited the wrong lyricist

Hi Wikipedia: You have credited the wrong lyricist on the Imagine This the Musical page. The proper lyricist is David Goldsmith (middle initial is S. I believe, but he doesn't use it in his credits) He is 50 and was born in Cincinnati Ohio. It would be nice if you credited the correct lyricist, he worked so hard! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicalFan4Ever (talk • contribs) 21:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I presume that you are referring to the fact that the link was to the wrong person. I've removed the link, just leaving the name, because the "right" David Goldsmith does not currently have an article about him. If you would like to suggest an article about him, you can do so at articles for creation. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:07, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Page Needs correction

I have attempted to correct a page and some editor keeps reverted it back.

The page that is listed for Mike Plotcheck is incorrectly listed.....it should be Michael Polchlopek Jr.

it is a common thing for people to misspell a polish name.....but since I know him - I know this listing is incorrect. ESPN, Amazon DVD sales, tapology, and this article are all examples if the correct spelling: http://prommanow.com/2009/05/09/ikuhisa-minowas-dirty-half-dozen/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techsupportdude (talk • contribs) 23:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Both names appear to be commonly used in English sources. The English Wikipedia does not necessarily use the official name for subjects which may be better known in English under another name. See Wikipedia:Requested moves if you want to suggest a change of the article name. Do not copy-paste the article text to another page. This breaks our license which requires that contributors to the article are credited in the page history. If the name is changed then the whole page including the page history should be moved to the new name. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The name has been extensively discussed at Talk:Mike Plotcheck. Read the discussion and participate there if you still disagree. —teb728 t c 00:29, 17 November 2012 (UTC)