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February 20

I'm having a problem with my Wikipedia password

My previoususername is Venustar but I lost my password. Could someone please help me? KristineAllison84 (talk) 00:49, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Try Help:Reset password CTF83! 00:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Is there a function that will show a list of what other articles an article links TO?

Is there a function that will show a list of what other articles an article links TO? - basically the opposite of the 'What links here' tool? If there is not, presumably it is because the information is already present on the page (in the form of the article), and the reason the 'What links here' tool exists is because that information is not present on the page, unless there is some other reason. However, consider the potential usefulness of such a tool, as follows.

1. It would provide an organized view of (and a preview of) such information, and could save the time it would take to go through the entire article for it, at times when that is not necessary.
2. It would be useful for quickly assessing such information, and (2a) getting a sense of what connections are present (or lacking), and (2b) other topics the topic involves or is associated with.
3. It would be a good compliment and alternative to the "See also" list at the end of articles.
4. It would help people find information they might have missed, (4a) in reading long articles, and (4b) in finding links when they are revisiting an article, as browsers by default tend to display previously-visited links in a color that can be very difficult to notice.

If there is not such a function or tool, would you please consider adding it? Maybe it could be filterable by relevant settings. Thanks, J.

I agree it would be useful. mw:API:Properties#links / pl shows a way to do it with the API, but that is more suited for programs than humans. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=links&pllimit=500&titles=Main+Page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

New page entirely in Arabic

أحمد صبور is a new page on the English wikipedia entirely in Arabic. Seems like it qualifies for a speedy delete or migration to the arabic wiki, but it doesn't seem to neatly fit into any category at WP:CSD. To me it looks like gibberish, but Google translate works on it. It's not clear whether it exists on another wikimedia project already, so that's out. Just go with WP:PROD? 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 03:23, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. Basically, you apply a tag and if it doens't get translated in short order it will be deleted and/or moved to ar.wiki. Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks like it might have been at ar:أحمد_صبور but was deleted, or at least Google is finding that now deleted article with a few snippets of the text in quotes (not that that would meet A2 however). Anyway, this reads like a resume to me using Google translate – enough so that I would not hesitate to tag it under G11.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I suspected it was something like spam, but couldn't really tell. I'll tag with G-11. Thanks to both of you for the information! 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 07:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I need help coding my user page

At this moment, my user page's information is confined to the left of the screen. I'd like to have it extend the full width like any other page would. User:Renamed user 2423tgiuowf (talk) 06:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

By default, tables are formatted just large enough to fit around their contents. I've added "width:100%" to override this. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. User:Renamed user 2423tgiuowf (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Non-free image question

I have a question about a non-free image I found. This new user uploaded his company's logo under the fair use rationale that he "owns the logo", but he is not releasing it on a free license. Aside from the WP:COI issues and potential notability problems (there's a gamespot article about the company, so I just tagged with COI rather than PROD for now), should I tag with {{puf}}? The logo he uploaded is quite high resolution, so I think that it needs to be taken down to thumbnail size to even qualify for fair use. Is there a special dispensation I'm not aware of for copyright holders to release their content on a non-free license for purposes like this? I can't imagine there is... 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 07:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

We have no way to know' that this user is in fact the Managing Director of the company, so treat it as if any random user had uploaded. It is a valid fair use logo (as long as we have an article about the company) so we can just download, scale down, and re-upload, no need to actually delete. I will do that tonight if no one has before that. DES ^(talk) 13:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

could someone please fix me an article?

[[1]] thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.108.232 (talk) 08:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

List of Netflix compatible devices (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have undone the most recent set of edits, as they had broken the formatting so badly. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

quoting paraphrased quotes

BBC said that someone said x. Is there another way to put it than a 'he said she said'? Or how can you quote a paraphrased quote? Timelezz (talk) 10:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

If it's part of their reporting, then just put it in as a regular source. Otherwise WP:PSTS might be of help. CTF83! 10:41, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Numbering diagrams

Fig. 1: blahblah

Is it ok to number the diagrams in an article? E.g.

Blah blah blah (See Fig. 1).

Thanks, Lesion (talk) 14:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. I'd say be bold and go ahead. If someone reverts you then discuss it on the article's talk page. RJFJR (talk) 14:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

conflict resolution

Hi, what are the next possible step for conflict resolution, after an attempted DRN failed due to lack of participation. It is important me that any such step would include un-involved users, due to the unfortunate circumstance that this article is part of an arbitration case and many editors seem to be editing with their conflict goggles on. Thanks. --PLNR (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:AE? WP:RFCU? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:TO? DES ^(talk) 17:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that PLNR move to Canada? Maybe not. :P 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 23:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

how to edit an edit summary

In article Sator Square I have written an edit summary containing typos/errors that likely will make it non-understandable. How can I ask an administrator to make changes to that edit summary? --Signo (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit summaries can't be edited - you could make a dummy edit though, to explain what you meant. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

linking pages about same subject in hebrew and English versions of Wikipedia

I am having difficulty linking the Hebrew page on "Jacqueline Kahanoff" / ז'קלין כהנוב [2] to the English page on the same subject [3]. The English page is (or should be) linked to the Hebrew page. Please advise. Thank you, Deborah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debastarr (talk • contribs) 15:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

In general, links between articles in different languages are done with Interlanguage links (which show up on the left hand side) They shouldn't got in the article. See David Ben Gurion as an example of how to show the name in Hebrew as part of the opening information in a similar circumstance. The Interlanguage links entry in Wikidata about the articles for her is at (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3944327#sitelinks-wikipedia) and includes English, Arabic and Hebrew Naraht (talk) 17:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Deleted page

hi, my page was deleted and i need help. regardsKatelyn100 (talk) 15:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Katelyn100. The question above appears to be the only contribution you have ever made to English Wikipedia, so it is hard for us to guess what "deleted page" you mean, or what you want help with. Maproom (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It was deleted for not indicating why the subject is important or significant, see the message on your talk page. To fix that it will need to be rewritten from a neutral point of view omitting all the marketing-speak, and citing reliable sources to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

help me

This is Prashant k.t. an indian Singer and voice over,dubbing artist with arrund 10 years experience. How can i ad my name in voice over and dubbing artists list.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashantktvo (talk • contribs) 15:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

You should not because you have a conflict of interest.

Wikipedia is not a directory where people get listed because they want to, nor an advertising platform to promote your work.

Content in articles is determined by what reliably published sources have said about the subject and we present it in an appropriate manner.

The suggested method would be to go to the article talk page and provide WP:CITEs that show you meed the criteria. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Move image to commons

Can someone move https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Class_wort.jpg to wikimedia commons? I tried but I failedLbertolotti (talk) 17:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Help?Lbertolotti (talk) 18:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

You gave people an hour. Not all requests can be answered in less than that. Especially when many people might feel uncomfortable moving something from a non-English WP since they don't read the language. Dismas|^(talk) 20:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It's been moved. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Image weirdness: please tell me my phone isn't haunted!

When I view this image either embedded on a page, or on the image page, or by clicking on the thumbnail in the timeline, I get a grainy black and white portrait photo of someone staring at the camera. In the thumbnail in the timeline, I see a 17th century etching of an execution, as the description says. The timeline doesn't seem to suggest any changes to the image.

Please confirm that
a) this happens for you too
b) we can do something about this

because it's too spooky for me! 86.128.227.246 (talk) 17:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly why, but I suspect you're seeing [[File:Rizana Nafeek (1988-2013).jpg]] instead of that image. Samwalton9 (talk) 17:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that shows the same image! Do you see it too? How did you know it was that one? Should I bring this up somewhere else: I'm not sure where is appropriate. 86.128.227.246 (talk) 18:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Samwalton9 You think this could be the kind of thing that can happen from template vandalism or maybe something inherent to the mobile version of Wikipedia? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I see it as the proper image both here and on mobile. Not a clue what could be causing this personally. Samwalton9 (talk) 20:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I admit, I can't replicate it. I'm looking at the mobile version on my pc and my phone and clicking around at the various articles that use that image. Anyhow, I think the phone is haunted. Sorry, IP! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It's fixed now! I don't know what changed, but it works normally now. 86.128.227.246 (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I cannot reproduce it but both images are displayed on Capital punishment. If you have viewed that article then maybe your phone's browser cache got the images mixed up. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

reference error

To the administrators every time I enter a reference on an article an try to post it the bellow line keeps poping up There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} template (see the help page). How can I fix this problem.

[Modified for readability]

There needs to be a 'References' section which includes  {{reflist}}  where the references will automagically appear. Click on the 'help page' link above for details; see also: Help: Referencing for beginners.  71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

The <ref>...</ref> tags only create the little numbers that look like this:^[1] A {{reflist}} tag is needed to generate the list of references at the bottom. Below is a quick guide to how this fits together.

Formatting references using inline citations

Inline citation code; what you type in 'edit mode'	What it produces when you save
Two separate citations.<ref>Citation text.</ref><ref>Citation text2.</ref> Multiple<ref name="multiple">Citation text3.</ref> citation<ref name="multiple" /> use.<ref name="multiple" /> References {{reflist}}	Two separate citations. Multiple citation use. References
Templates that can be used between <ref>...</ref> tags to format your references {{Citation}} {{Cite web}} {{Cite book}} {{Cite news}} {{Cite journal}} Others Examples

Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Note: OP = 72.252.251.94 (talk)‎ — RE: Dr. Eric Deans (~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC))

Y Done. I've added the reflist. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Images in search

Why does the mobile version of the site have images next to search results but the desktop version doesn't? A mobile version should be a cut down or simplified version, it shouldn't have functionality that is missing from the desktop version. --Jameboy (talk) 23:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a mobile device but I don't see the difference you describe when I make the same searches at the mobile or desktop version. Neither has images at Wikipedia with default search parameters, but the desktop search page has a "Multimedia" link I can click to search images and see them. Both versions search and display images by default at Commons. Which search are you making at which url? Are you logged in to the same account in both cases? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Jameboy is referring to the fact that when one uses the search bar at the top of the mobile site, each suggested result has a small image to its left (presumably the first image from the suggested page). So for example when I type in "c" I see Canada, China and California listed with their flags next to them, and Countries of the world with a placeholder, presumably because that page is a redirect and contains no images. I don't know why that is, though, and would agree that it seems odd. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 07:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, you mean images in a list of prefix matches when you type before starting the actual search. That looks fancy, but the page names are shown much faster at the desktop version. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)