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May 29[edit]

404[edit]

The article Daly_City,_California includes a link to List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density. The latter displays a "404 Not Found" page rather than either an article or the standard "No article with this name yet exists" page. What does this indicate? Is there a particular reason it doesn't work? 108.246.204.20 (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This has been reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) and the experts are working on it. It's not just this article. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How much do you follow the source?[edit]

I frequently help make minor edits to articles about concert tours. When an artist announces new tour dates you add them to article and source it. The problem I am encountering though is how to post the information. For instance, if the source abbreviates an arena name, do you use the abbreviation in the article or continue to use the full proper name? If the sources says the arena is in one city but it is actually in a smaller neighboring city, do you still put the city the source says? I can't find a Wikipedia policy that really describes the situation. --Shadow (talk) 17:57, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is: if what the source says is different from what the source means, and this is uncontentious, so that even the writer of the source would agree with your opinion as to what the source means, then you should write what the source means. Maproom (talk) 21:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is this a situation like Charlotte Motor Speedway? Years ago I remember hearing that this facility was in Harrisburg, North Carolina. It has been annexed by Concord, North Carolina. That means the city added the area where the speedway is located. I'm glad I checked this before Wikilinking because Wikipedia lacks information about annexation. The article I looked at is about "forcible" taking of territory, though people in United States cities and towns often seem to feel that's what happened to them when they didn't ask to be annexed.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:51, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article titles[edit]

Newbie here - I've edited content, but how are article titles edited? Example: 'disaster' to 'massacre'. I must have missed something in the FAQ.

Bath School disaster

Steveolus1 (talk) 00:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MOVE. Dismas|(talk) 01:07, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As that is a Good article, it may be best to discuss a change like that. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It has already been discussed at Talk:Bath School disaster#Disaster??? and certainly shouldn't be changed without a new discussion. Your edits to the article have been reverted.[1] See WP:COMMONNAME. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, a requested move was rejected at Talk:Bath School disaster/Archive 1#Move? By the way, it has also been featured on the main page with the disaster title: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 22, 2006. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:44, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

editing an entry-[edit]

I have submitted an entry on Nigel Randell Evans which has been uploaded and is now visible. Unfortunately the title page has the name entered incorrectly as "Nigel Randall Evans" Please advise how I can change it.

Also the entry contains references numbered as in the text but repeated as dot points. I would like to remove the dot points.

Thanks for your help

Fulhamoldboy (talk) 05:09, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have "moved" the article to the correct name.
The reference list contained the nine numbered references used in the article, followed by eleven bulletted references, the first nine of them duplicating the numbered ones. I have deleted the duplicates. Maproom (talk) 07:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging sandboxes for review[edit]

Resolved

Hi!

What's the template you can place at the top of articles in sandboxes to allow them to be reviewd as an article for creation?

Thanks! Stephen! Coming... 06:49, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@StephenBuxton: You'll find it at Template:AFC submission. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:58, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Stephen! Coming... 09:28, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the template must be substituted so the correct form is {{Subst:Submit}}.--ukexpat (talk) 12:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And you will have to edit the draft afterwards to make sure that the creator of the draft is named in the review template rather than you - the template automatically adds the name of the person who substs the template. If you don't change it, you will get all the AFC review messages rather than the creator of the draft.--ukexpat (talk) 13:08, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Vajiravudh[edit]

Reference help requested. {{Reflist}} appears under References as do both numbered in-line references and bulleted notes. I don't know how to fix it. Thanks, Pawyilee (talk) 11:33, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you were able to resolve the issue with this edit [2]. CaptRik (talk) 12:07, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SUL issues[edit]

(If this is not the right place to ask this, please direct me to the correct place) I had my username changed one or two years ago. Before that, I had edited a few other language wikipedia. The accounts were connected, through unified log in. But now, it's not. I am stuck, what should I do? How can I connect the accounts in various wikipedia again? Should I post rename requests on all wikipedia listed in the SUL of my previous username or is there something else I can do? My previous username was Novice7. Ryoga (talk) 12:23, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First, follow this link and create a unified account. Ruslik_Zero 12:45, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You can also see here that you have several unattached accounts. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:20, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
See m:Help:Unified login#Frequently asked questions. You will probably take a step backwards if you unify your current account name, don't follow the link from Ruslik0. Your accounts on other wikis are still at the old name. You have to ask for all of them to be renamed individually on the local wiki on which they exist. Only attempt to merge them after you have done that. If you merge accounts before doing that the old accounts will be difficult to rename because you will be asking to rename to an existing account (which you created by merging) and you are then into requesting usurpation. If you actually edit from any of the new name accounts you might make renaming the old accounts completely impossible. SpinningSpark 16:40, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You are actually wrong here. Unless he has a unified account his requests may not be honored. In addition unification will not prevent any usurpation. Ruslik_Zero 00:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Ruslik0 and Spinningspark: Thanks. Here's a list of all the wikis I am connected through my old account. I've gone ahead and posted requests for rename at jawiki, eswiki, arwiki, and metawiki. Should I rename myself at wikis I haven't edited at all or can I ignore them? Will I able to connect all those wikis through SUL? Ryoga (talk) 11:41, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you have never edited them just ignore, there are no edits that need moving. If you do edit them in the future, just use the new unified account name and ignore the old name. SpinningSpark 11:51, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Spinningspark: Thanks again. I have one more question. I was logged in to jawiki using my old username a few months ago and accidentally edited enwiki with that account. I guess I didn't realize that I was using my old name. This added a edit to Novice7, my old account. Can it be merged with the new useraccount/name? Or will it stay like that? Ryoga (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, it can't, that's why I told you not to edit from both accounts. SpinningSpark 12:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake. Thanks for explaining everything. Ryoga (talk) 12:06, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

recently[edit]

Is there something equivalent to citation needed that can be inserted when writers write things like "In the last few years" or "recently", the point being that there's no way of knowing whether it was written today or ten years ago, ie, WHICH last few years; recent to when?

Thanks Nick BarnettNick Barnett (talk) 12:50, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{Update after}} or {{Update inline}} perhaps? FYI most similar tags are listed in Template:Inline tags.--ukexpat (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
{{When}} does exactly this job. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:41, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And if you're looking for a guideline about the issue, see WP:DATED. Dismas|(talk) 17:49, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
{{Clarify timeframe}}. See also WP:DATED. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I said some of that. Dismas|(talk) 17:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Phone number left on talk page[edit]

I had a editor leave me his phone number on my talk page, I have already removed it from my talk page but it's still in the talk page history. Is there someway to remove this from the history so others are unable to look at it? Whispering 21:14, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OVERSIGHT or WP:REVDEL - Purplewowies (talk) 21:33, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Update:Oversighted by Oversight team. No worries···Vanischenu (mc/talk) 21:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. Whispering 22:13, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article Request[edit]

How do I request an article and after I make the request? Helkins (talk) 22:01, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requested articles. Or, if you want to write it yourself, Wikipedia:Articles for creation. SpinningSpark 00:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]