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October 6

Question regarding intra-article notability

I am interesting in improving the Zouk-Lambada article. In regard to some of the later sections, "Zouk with different styles", "List of Zouk dance congresses", and "External links"; these are lists that include some relevant information and some irrelevant/non-verifiable information.

For example, I think that the first Zouk congress is likely a notable event and could be moved up into the history of the dance. Listing every succeeding Zouk congress does not increase the value of the article. I would also like to either include some of the external links in the sourcing of the re-write (if the site/source is valuable) or remove non-value-added sources.

My goal is to re-write the article to better align with WP:NPOV and the no original research/verifiability guidelines. Are there other content guidelines that I should be mindful of when working on the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.53.142 (talk) 05:06, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

The first thing I notice about this article is that it has no references at all. (Here are Basic and advanced guides to referencing). The approach would be to find what has attracted sufficient attention to receive "significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources" in relation to this dance; add references to these sources; and remove the rest. Nearly all the external links could be removed in line with this policy. It would also be good to check that everything in Zouk-Lambada belongs there and not in the Zouk article: Noyster (talk), 09:28, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

List of countries each in their National Language?

On the page Nielsen N.V., the section listing countries Nielsen N.V.#Global locations has the list of countries each in their own language, so that for example Israel is written as ישראל and Austria as Österreich. That just looks incorrect. What would be a good policy page to reference in changing that to all english names of the countries?Naraht (talk) 05:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Per the Manual of Style, Plain English works best. In that context, the emphasis is on "plain", but this is the English Wikipedia. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:36, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

A couple of notes. 1) The list of countries was added by a sockpuppet, 2) There is no ref for the list, but it appears it came from the select your country icon on the company pge, which doesn't equal "Here are the countries we have business in. So nuking the section is probably the best choice. just pointing to the MOS seems fine, I guess...Naraht (talk) 05:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Those are good reasons to not have a list in any language. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I fully agree. I have removed the section. Maproom (talk) 07:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Transliteration of proper names with common nouns to English

Hi, tried to found it out on the Guidelines and style, but while at some point it goes that "World Union of Billiards is good as a translation of Union Mondiale de Billard" it does not provide explanations as to the preferable form for the article titles. For example should Real Compañía de Filipinas be left in Spanish or is it preferable (overall and on titles in particular) to transliterate it as Royal Philippine Company (used in literature, the cited one at least). Any clues? Thanks Iñaki LL (talk) 06:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I think what you are looking for is WP:ENGLISH. In a nutshell, "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language...." —teb728 t c 07:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that is what I looked for. Thanks! Iñaki LL (talk) 07:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Professional medical help on an article

Forgive me, but age has erased the area to ask for such help. There is a request that is rather worthy, considering the current events and lack within the current article as it stands within Talk:Ebola virus disease. The request is simple, for an immunologist to add to the article, especially considering a recent article from a physician who was inflicted with the disease, but desired those previously exposed. As this is a bit bleeding edge, such considerations do require professional guidance from those who are best knowledgeable about the specifics of the disease. So, where do I go to help this requester?Wzrd1 (talk) 08:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine? Maproom (talk) 09:39, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

code-nowiki

Is there a template that combines the effects of <code> and <nowiki>? ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 12:12, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

It is not technically possible to include <nowiki> in a template, as it immediately applies the <nowiki>. I think {{code}} still has some markup for <nowiki> but it never worked. --  Gadget850 ^talk 12:19, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

@Gadget850: We could make a template for substitution only couldn't we, with <includeonly>s on the template page? (Not that I'm suggesting we actually do that, just talking about hypothetical technical feasibility.)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I always forget about subst. --  Gadget850 ^talk 13:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

At MediaWiki talk:Edittools/Archive 8#code and nowiki in one step I made a similar suggestion: "meta:MediaWiki:Edittools can insert <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> in a single step. I suggest the same here. They often go well together but people frequently omit one of them or mess up the order or syntax."

There were no replies. I see it has been suggested again at MediaWiki talk:Edittools#Individual customization?, also with no replies. I will go and support it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I went and supported it, too. Vote YES today! ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Removing categories from pages

How do I remove categories from pages? For example, The Honourable Woman does not belong in English-language films or 2014 television films but when I edit the page I only see BBC television dramas and Sundance Channel shows (both of which are correct categories) but I can't see the ones I need to remove. Rayna Jaymes (talk) 17:17, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I've figured it out now - the page was wrongly using the film infobox so the categories were automatically added on. Rayna Jaymes (talk) 18:12, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of my entry about Michael Lenson

Dear Wikipedia,

A draft of a post that I created about my father, the artist Michael Lenson, was deleted today on the grounds that it violated copyright on another website, michaellenson.org. That is a website that I own. The content on it, because it contains biographical material about my father, must be replicated in part when I create new biographies of my father. So it is inaccurate, wrong in fact, to say that I violated any copyright when I created my entry. (Is it possible to create a copyright violation against oneself? Then there is the fact that the material on michaellenson.org is not copyrighted in the first place.

I hope you will review my now-related entry in light of my comments above.

Thank you for your attention and assistance,

Barry Lenson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.57.149.143 (talk) 17:26, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I see nothing on the website michaellenson.org to indicate that its content is in the public domain. Therefore Wikipedia cannot allow anyone to use its resources to publish this content. You (the person posting from 174.57.149.143) claim that you are the owner of this content, but we have no proof. The easiest way to achieve what you want would be for you to place a notice on the web site stating that its content is in the public domain. (It would not work to state that it may be used in Wikipedia only – Wikipedia does not accept content on that basis.) Maproom (talk) 17:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Note that even if you give the content into the public domain 1) it is highly unlikely that any of that content is appropriate to use in an encyclopedia article in a cut and paste format anyway, and 2) nothing from a site closely associated with the subject will establish that the subject meets the criteria for having a stand alone article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

How do I request a watchlist notice?

How do I request a watchlist notice? Rationalobserver (talk) 17:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Watchlist notices GB fan 17:42, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

The actual place to request is at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details. GB fan 17:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, GB fan! I think I've done this correctly. Rationalobserver (talk) 17:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Huge chunk of German

Someone inserted a large German language block into the article on the Serbian organization Otpor!

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otpor!&diff=620627363&oldid=617112891

It comes directly from the German language wiki, and from the description it seems that the editor wishes to discredit the group for receiving funds from the National Endowment for Democracy. Whether his charges are justified or not, I believe there is a rule about foreign language passages being put on the pages of an English article. Does some one need to translate this or do we just let it be?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 18:22, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I have removed it. It will need to be translated before it's added back. In any event, the article is way too long and overly detailed, and now tagged as such.--ukexpat (talk) 20:42, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

How to submit an article?

Good evening,

I have created a Draft:Daniel Kanu, and I would like to submit it now to become visible. Since this is my first article I am not sure how to do it, and I don't want to do something wrong. Please help me.

Thank You.

Ljiljana K (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)Ljiljana K

I have added the template {{AFC submission|T}}, which gives you a submit button for use when your draft is ready for review. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:05, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Delegate Phil Hamilton

Under Delegate Phil Hamilton (former Virginia House of Delegates member) it list spouse as: Kimberly Wagner

Kimberly Wagner is NOT his spouse and wants this removed immediately. Thank you.

Kimberly Wagner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.102.22.42 (talk) 19:06, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

The Virginia House of Delegates site shows them as married. If they are no longer married, find a reliable source and discuss it on the article talk page. --  Gadget850 ^talk 19:18, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

And a Google search for <Phil Hamilton Kimberly Wagner divorce> doesn't produce any results. Dismas|^(talk) 20:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I found a couple of references to the filing for divorce by Kimberly Wagner (in 2013), but couldn't find anything saying the divorce was final. --Larry (talk) 03:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Considering [1] and [2] it sounds plausible the divorce is final but we would need a published reliable source to say divorced. The page at Virginia House of Delegates says he is still in office so it's clearly obsolete. We are not obligated to mention everything with an old reliable source so I have removed the spouse field from the infobox and mentioned the divorce filing [3] but not stated whether they are actually divorced. Another ex-wife is mentioned later so I added her name to clarify it isn't Kimberly Wagner. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

COI edit request

{{request edit}}

Under History:

(PLEASE ADD TEXT BELOW)

With a standing room only crowd of 15,250 at its home finale on Aug. 30, the Indianapolis Indians established a new Victory Field record for single-season attendance. Overall, a total of 660,289 fans enjoyed Indianapolis Indians baseball in 2014, breaking the previous record of 659,237, which was set in 1998. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.78.193.130 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Requester already posted this on the article talk page. ‑‑Mandruss (talk) 19:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

References

We have 77 other requests at Category:Requested_edits#Pages_in_category, 75 of which were posted earlier. Is there some reason this one should jump the queue?

(I'm really using this as a nudge for those of you looking to help, the COI list is longer than it should be).--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:09, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Photo

How do we submit a new photo to be used on Wikipedia for Victory Field? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.78.193.130 (talk) 19:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Download a wikipedia article as PDF, with code not showing correctly.

I tried to download Java (programming language) as a pdf file. I clicked "Download as PDF", and downloaded the generated pdf file, But Java code part in the pdf file was rendered as ordinary text, and lumped up together (no syntax indent and no highlighting which appear in the webpage). I wonder if there is a solution for that? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timlee126 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

And the infobox at the top of page does not render. This is a new PDF tool, and it has a few bugs. T73326 (<pre>tag not rendered correctly in PDF) T50606 (Tables not rendered correctly in PDF) --  Gadget850 ^talk 20:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Script suddenly working again after years

Just curious if anyone knows why the incredibly useful script User:Ais523/catwatch.js is suddenly working again after years of being dead. I've missed it. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, just curious. Must be something like a bug that was fixed or some feature they turned off and turned back on just now. (I'm also hoping to serve the dual purpose by asking the question of secondarily informing anyone here, who happen to also use it and disabled it, that's it's now functioning!)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Just look at the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Ha! I new Ais523 has retired years ago so I didn't even think to check whether he had fixed it. Ais523: glad to see you back if at least momentarily; grateful for the return of this script.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)