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December 4

Problems concern American and British pronunication differences

I was reading the page the other day, and I happened to notice a slight piece of evidence questionable and unsourced. I first created a section on the talk page request the change to occur. I got one response in favor and one against. So, I made the removal. Some one did revert back to the original text. This is not my problem, for I know well that they reserve the right to do such. However, on the talk page this man said, and I quote, "American English is rubbish because they don't accept alternate British pronunciations & they butcher pronunciations of English & foreign words, i.e. entertainment from popular television & music." Naturally, as an American, I am offended by this. Furthermore, I kept telling this man to write his source in the article, but he only will insert the source on the talk page. No matter how much I find his sources does not accurately support his claim, he will stick to it. I am not willing to fight this battle anymore. Could someone address to him that such behavior is inappropriate for a talk page? If not, then oh well. Thank you.74.102.216.186 (talk) 00:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The article being disucssed here is American and British English pronunciation differences. --Gronk Oz (talk) 01:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The editor uses an IPv6 address that geolocates to IT&T in Chicago, and he makes very similar edits to those of a previous contributor who also removes signbot's autosignatures and also uses slovar-vocab.com for references. I won't make any accusations, or even name the registered user, of course, since these facts might just be coincidences. As a British editor, I, too, found the rant potentially offensive. Dbfirs 22:54, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I made a dozen edits or so on the page. I really did that because of the issue addressed at the top of the page, asking the readers to help improved the page. And this man (I can assume male) accuses me of destroying the page. And he complains that I don't know British English. All of the changes I made were based off the American pronunciation of the listed words. The pronunciation given as British was a legitimate American pronunciation, or it was an accent difference based off different pronunciation of vowel classes. The page specifically addressed that such cases were not to be mentioned on that section. For the administration, is there anything that can be done?74.102.216.186 (talk) 03:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

By the way, for Dbfirs, what is IT&T?74.102.216.186 (talk) 03:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

See IT&T. General Ization ^Talk 03:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, sir. I only need clarity. If the headquarters is in New York, then how on earth can the IP address be relocated in Chicago?74.102.216.186 (talk) 03:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Is a worldwide US company with over 9,000 employees likely not to have an office in Chicago? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.248.159.54 (talk) 08:09, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Apologies to you all for causing confusion. It was a typo. I meant AT&T Internet Services. I see that our friend from Chicago has continued the discussion on Talk:American and British English pronunciation differences so perhaps we should reply there. Dbfirs 09:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

That makes more sense. I know what AT&T is.74.102.216.186 (talk) 18:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

It also seems that similar changes have been by 108.230.164.221. Is the same man using two different IP addresses?74.102.216.186 (talk) 19:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

As soon as I make a change with a legitimate source, the man from Chicago changes it right back to what he wants it to be. If nobody can agree on what the page should read, should it be deleted permanently? It seems to be the last resort.74.102.216.186 (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

It's over now. The battle is won. There is no need to delete the page.74.102.216.186 (talk) 02:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on The Aspern Papers False alarm about Cite Error on The Aspern Papers page

Reference help requested. False alarm Cite Error about my contribution on The Aspern Papers page. I'm Jean Pavans, author of the French Scenic adaptation of The Aspern Papers, reported on my own French wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Pavans, and on the French wikipedia Les Papiers d'Aspern https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Papiers_d'Aspern I wish it to be reported among the adaptations in the English Wikipedia The Aspern Papers. Thanks, 92.143.255.218 (talk) 00:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The Aspern Papers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The reference error had already been fixed by the time you posted here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Is this a good use of the edit filter?

Someone (or a group) on Pjanoo keeps adding the entry that a YouTube user named Zeb89 (sometimes called the #1 gaming channel in Italy) uses the song in his videos. It's been ongoing since July and it's a different user each time (sometimes an account, sometimes an IP) that adds it back in. I've just added a Pagenotice to the article, but should this keep going, is it a good use of the Edit filter to just block "Zeb89" from being added to articles? hbdragon88 (talk) 07:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@Hbdragon88: Since this is only one article, semi-protection would be a less expensive option. Edit filters are checked during every edit of every page, and there is a software limit on the number and complexity of the edit filters that can be run. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Bright Eyes (British Band)

About three years ago I added a page on Wikipedea that was based on fact. The band performed extensively in the UK between 1975 & 1982 were on Radio One & made a couple of albums. Yet I find that someone in Australia who had nothing to do with the band I formed calling themselves 'Malicious' has deleted the page. Please do not allow this to happen again. I have made a new entry on 3rd December 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrightEyesBirmingham (talk • contribs) 10:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

You've never made any edit—deleted or otherwise—before today, and the Bright Eyes (British band) article never existed before 01:04 this morning. Wikipedia articles need to provide citations to reliable sources to indicate why the topic is notable—we're not a general directory, but only summarise material which has already been published elsewhere. ‑ Iridescent 10:45, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, there is no User:Malicious so it's really hard to guess what you refer to. Two years ago [1] an IP address mentioned a British band in Bright Eyes but linked to it to an article Bright Eyes (band) about an unrelated American band. The IP has no other edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The list of all the skulls movies and there should be 4 or 5.

I have looked everywhere for all the information i can get on the other 3 movies that are the continuation to the first 2 and i cant find them and i hope that u CAN HELP me with this, Thanku and i will wait for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.8.145.66 (talk) 11:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

This question would be better handled at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Britmax (talk) 11:37, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Al Cheznovitz / Alan Chesnovitz

• Al_Cheznovitz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Name IS ALAN CHEZ full name ( not used ) ALAN CHESNOVITZ

not CHEZNOVITZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.29.193.150 (talk) 17:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

If you are indeed "Alan Chez", please read [WP:COI] which explains that a subject is highly discouraged from editing his own WP page. Please bring your comments and requests to the article's talk page here: [2]; but please do not continue to edit the page yourself. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 17:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

or we could help. I've moved the article to Alan Chez. It's debatable whether Al Chez (as commonly used on the subject's website) is more common, but they seem to think (on their website) that their name is Alan Chez, there are sources to support it, CHEZNOVITZ is questionable, and so I've moved it with all necessary redirects. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 17:43, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Insignia / flag sizes in templates

In the article Schutzstaffel, there are several specific navigation templates included in the bottom section. Which size should be applied ideally for the insignia within these?--Hubon (talk) 18:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Login problems

My ID is Deisenbe.

Firefox on my Windows laptop and Safari on my iPad, which worked fine until a few days ago, and with no hardware or software change on my end, will not let me log in no matter what I do.

I get an error "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again." Those instructions do not work.

`If I click on "forgot your password" I get an email with a temporary password, but that gives the same error message.

However with a different browser, Dolphin, and exactly the same user name and password, on the same iPad, I can log in just fine at the same time these programs won't let me.

Anyone got any suggestions? Please post to User talk:Deisenbe. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58C:C300:34F2:D466:6667:9AC4:92DF (talk) 19:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Did you try to clear cookies in your browser? It often helps. --CiaPan (talk) 20:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

No, and I think I'd lose every stored password if I did. Cure worse than disease. Since it apparently is unsolveable short of this destructive messure, I've switched to the Dolphin browser . 2601:58C:C300:34F2:4421:4C0:D6D6:1972 (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

When you clear cookies in your browser, you don't necessarily have to clear stored passwords. In Microsoft, go to the Control panel. Click on "Internet Options". A window will open up (it might say "Internet properties" at the top). There are several tabs; it should be open at the General tab. About halfway down, you will see "Browsing history". Click on the word "Delete" and another window will open up. In this window, you can select what things you want to delete. Just make sure that you don't have passwords selected (no check mark in the little box). (I keep permanently selected the first four: "Preserve Favorites website data", "Temporary Internet files and website files", "Cookies and website data", and "History".) Click on "Delete", and wait a minute or two until it is completed, then click "O.K." You don't have to, but you might want to do a Restart, which quickly turns off your computer and starts it again. If all that doesn't work, you can try two other things: 1) Do a system restore. Go to the Control panel. Click on "Recovery". There are a few options there, but one is to "Open System restore". Pick a date that you think is before you began having problems, and do a system restore. It only takes a few minutes. If that doesn't work, try this: 2) Go to the Control panel, and click on "Programs and features". Find "Add or remove programs". You can remove the internet browser system that is giving you problems, then go to the browser's website and download the most recent version of that browser. I hope one of these will help you.  – Corinne (talk) 17:09, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Africa destubathon windup

Any idea when the awards get handed out? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Help for liscense

I need help i want to put a new image of naruki doi but I don't know what kind of lincense I use I found it on twitter, so should I do?

Best Regards

Team61ROLL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Team61ROLL (talk • contribs) 23:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

If you found it on Twitter, you can't use it. The image is copyrighted. Please do not upload images you find elsewhere on the Internet. If you want you can send an email to the person asking for it to be released to us. For instructions on that please see WP:COPYREQ. --Majora (talk) 23:30, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

How to send email to a user that you mentioned in an email

How do I send an email to a user that I mentioned in an edit. Do I just put something like User: before his name, or do I need some special characters? I have received emails like that and it appears they just put User: before my name, surrounded by double square brackets, but I'm just guessing. PS I'm new at this game. Zootsuit1941 (talk) 23:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@Zootsuit1941: It sounds like you don't actually mean Wikipedia:Emailing users but Wikipedia:Notifications. A signed edit with a wikilink to your user page will usually trigger a notification no matter how the link is made. In this edit I used {{ping|Zootsuit1941}} but I could also have written [[User:Zootsuit1941]]. A notification only causes an email if the user has enabled "Email" for "Mention" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try. And try a test case to my self>> @Zootsuit1941: Zootsuit1941 (talk) 02:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@Zootsuit1941: Your test case won't work: linking to your own user page does not trigger a notification. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Right, but I received the notification. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: @John of Reading: Thanks to both User:PrimeHunter and User:John of Reading, I am now more knowledgeable than I was a few days ago, so who says you can't teach an old dog (75 years) new tricks? I'm assuming you won't get double notifications from this since I did it twice for both names, the two different ways mentioned by Prime Hunter earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zootsuit1941 (talk • contribs)

@Zootsuit1941: It has to be a signed edit so we didn't get any notification. You are right we would have gotten one and not two notifications if it had been signed. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks, I guess I still have some tricks to learn. :o) Zootsuit1941 (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2016 (UTC)