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November 11

Dr Rob Morrison

Draft talk:Dr Rob (Robert GB) Morrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandbruno From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Thank you, Matthew Vanitas.

I probably need help as this is my first try, and I am sure I have sent queries to the wrong places already, but I am baffled as to why this entry for Morrison is unacceptable, and could use some advice.

Feedback was that (1) he was not notable enough and (2) I needed to cite material that was not by him.

I only cite one of Morrison's works, and that is his field guide - cited because it was a significant important in his role in Australia's most significant criminal trial (Lindy and Michael Chamberlain). That national significance is independently assessed by the National Museum of Australia, and that is the citation there - not Morrison's words but the Museum's.

The Curiosity Show (a groundbreaking and long-running TV series in Australia and now online) appropriately has its own Wikipedia entry, which talks about Morrison and his co-presenter, Dr Deane Hutton, and cites Morrison's views. Hutton also has a Wikipedia entry, and it seems anomalous that Morrison should not have one, as he has been recognised with significant national honours, is exceptional in having won the Eureka Prize (Australia's top Science Prize) not once but twice, has been awarded the Order of Australia and was the Senior Australian of the Year (SA). The citations providing evidence for this that i used are of independent bodies or authorities, and none cite Morrison himself.

Morrison is in great demand for public speaking, government science panels etc, and continues to present with Hutton, for example in TedX talks. When people look for biographical material they find Hutton and Curiosity Show in Wikipedia but not Morrison.

I can provide more links to independent bodies (Eureka Prizes, Australia Day Council, National Museum of Australia etc) that comment on Morrison but I noted somewhere that you don't want too many links, so I left them out of the draft.

Can you advise further? I am keen to get this right.

Bruno

Mandbruno (talk) 01:28, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Bruno Mand — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandbruno (talk • contribs)

There is only one reference in Draft:Dr Rob (Robert GB) Morrison, and that is apparently to a work by the subject. The article also includes 3 misplaced external links in the body text. Perhaps you intended these to be references, in which case please read Help:Referencing for beginners, and also read about bare URLs. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:52, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Mandbruno, please read your first article. Wikipedia is not interested in what you or I say or know about a subject, and it is certainly not interested in what a subject says about themselves, or what their friends, relatives, employees, or associates say about them. It is only interested in what people who have no connection to the subject have published about them in high-quality sources. That is what notability means in Wikipedia land: it has nothing to do with importance or fame or influence or popularity. --ColinFine (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Trouble logging in

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 – Lourdes

Hi there. This is Callmemirela using an IP to edit. I am having trouble logging into my account on mobile. On a PC, it works fine. I get this message when I try to log in via my iOS device: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again." Help? 173.179.65.105 (talk) 05:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I tried logging through the Firefox App and it works. I am also here to confirm that it is in fact me who filed this. I seem to have this issue on Safari only. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 05:41, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Please ignore this thread. I fixed it. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 11:42, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Editing a page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajitha_R_Shankar

Hi , I am trying to edit a page of my friend Sajitha R Shankar , Her page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajitha_R_Shankar The Materialscientist left the following message .

Recent edit to Sajitha R Shankar[edit]

Information.svg Hello. I noticed that you made an edit to a biography of a living person (Sajitha R Shankar), but that you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Materialscientist (talk) 10:33, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I am trying to help Sajitha R Shankar to update her profile . She is a great contemporary artist who's art reflects the life of Indian woman. I am a layman. I don't know HTML . Please let me edit her page. Thanks Pinaki Pillai — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinaki Pillai (talk • contribs) 13:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, there are a few problems with your wish to edit her page. Firstly, you appear to have a connection with the subject of the article; this may cause a conflict of interest; please see WP:COI for more information. Secondly, your edits did not provide any sources; this is important for biographical articles. Please see WP:RS for details and WP:REFB for how to add sources. Also, it is not her profile, it is Wikipedia's article about her. Finally, Wikipedia articles cannot contain any original research, I.e. personal knowledge. Please feel free to return here if you need further assistance. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Pinaki Pillai, but like many people you have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. It does not contain profiles, and may not be used for promotion of any kind. It is an encyclopaedia, which contains articles about notable subjects: the articles should be almost entirely based on reliable published sources written and published by people who have no connection with the subject. What Shankar says about herself, or what her friends or relatives or associates say about her, is of no interest to Wikipedia. What people who have no connection to her have published about her is all that matters. --ColinFine (talk) 15:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Access to Who's Who

Our article Ann Dowling states she attended Ursuline Convent School, Westgate, Kent, which is piped to Ursuline College, Westgate-on-Sea, citing Who's Who 2014 as the reference, but this requires a subscription. The Ursuline College, Westgate-on-Sea article does not claim her as an alumnus, but (until I removed it, possibly prematurely), Brentwood Ursuline Convent High School did claim her as an Alumnus - If anyone has access to Who's Who, could they please check which Ursuline Convent School she did attend - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 14:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

You can try Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

FYI: She's an alumna, not an alumnus. --71.183.135.133 (talk) 17:02, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

In British English we tend to use alumnus for individuals of any gender, but only for former students of a university-level institution. Schools have old boys or, as here, old girls. DuncanHill (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

@Arjayay: The Who's Who entry just says "Education: Ursuline Convent Sch., Westgate, Kent; Girton Coll., Cambridge (BA 1973; MA 1977; PhD 1978; ScD 2006)......." All sources [1] [2] point to Ursuline College, Westgate-on-Sea. - NQ (talk) 17:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

• It's worth pointing out that Who's Who is accessible without subscription to holders of library cards issued free by local councils in Britain. DuncanHill (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Quick question about math formulas

On Percolation test, someone added a crude ASCII formula. So, I tried to clean it up using Wikipedia's math formula code. I think I got it right for the most part but I'm still confused on how to put a space between the "x" and "ml/min". This is what I have so far:

$${\text{percolation rate}}={{\text{amount of water (ml)}} \over {\text{time taken (min)}}}={x}{\text{ml/min}}$$

Any help? Thanks! †dismas†|^(talk) 14:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

$$={x}\;{\text{ml/min}}$$

Maproom (talk) 15:05, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks again! †dismas†|^(talk) 15:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Barack Obama

Excuse me but on the Barack Obama page on your website, it states that he was born outside the US which is incorrect as he has supplied his birth certificate numerous times that disproves that. He was born here and it is highly disrespectful and perpetuates racial injustice. This must be corrected. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:5300:B514:58BF:4BEE:4561:80DF (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

No, it doesn't say that. What it says is that he is "the first president born outside the Continental United States." That is factually accurate, as Hawaii is not part of the Continental United States. It is not racially injust, it's a plain statement of fact. --Jayron32 17:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Using images

I would like to use, in a book I am writing, the three time lines included at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

How do I access them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.200.252.198 (talk) 19:31, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi. the WP:REUSE page explains the legalities. The content you're asking about are in the form of template pages: Template:Human timeline, Template:Life timeline and Template:Nature timeline. I think the WP:Graphics lab is probably the best place to get help with converting the templates into a form that can be used in a printed book. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:53, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

2017 in television

Can you start the 2017 in Television article please.2600:8803:7A00:19:105E:D7AC:BF4D:6047 (talk) 19:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

2017 in American television has existed since January 1st. If you think there's enough content out there to sustain a global version of that article, why don't you create it yourself? Rojomoke (talk) 20:17, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

You would have to use Wikipedia:Articles for creation or create an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

How to change my article title

I want to change the title of an article The_Generations_of_Video_Game_Consoles from "The Generations of Video Game Consoles" to "Generations of Video Game Consoles" thank-you!Ramister (talk) 21:44, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@Ramister: The article has now been redirected to History of video games, which already covers this topic. Sam Walton (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

How long does it take for the "Help Desk" to respond?

This question was for me and other viewers Thanks! Ramister (talk) 21:52, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@Ramister: The Help Desk is watched my volunteers. Although exact response times vary, they're usually pretty quick unless it's a more complex problem. -- Dane2007 ^talk 21:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

↑↑↑↑(Apparently 4 minutes)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Mobile view all the time?

I know it is easy to switch to the mobile view on any particular page but is it possible to make this "permanent"? I looked for an option in preferences, but did not see one.--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

::tap:: ::tap:: ::tap:: It has been 4 minutes :)--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:09, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

I'd be a little surprised if there were a preference for it. After all, it's a little bit out of the ordinary to want to be on a mobile view consistently while on a computer. There may be some code to put in your common.js file though which would prevent the site from serving you the full site. †dismas†|^(talk) 02:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

If you "brute-force" switch to the mobile site (by amending en.wikipedia in a page's URL to en.m.wikipedia) it will remain in mobile view for the rest of that browsing session; I suspect that's the best you'll be able to get. @Dismas, while the above request is out of the ordinary, it's a very common feature request among users of tablets and larger phones that there be a preference to permanently disable mobile view (at the moment, Mediawiki switches to mobile view automatically on Android and iOS, even on large tablets which are really de facto laptops, and it's not at all intuitive to casual readers how to disable it), and this request is essentially the flip side of the same coin. ‑ Iridescent 08:44, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I fully agree that it is out of the ordinary. I'm responding to an OTRS email sent to Wikimedia in which someone request that the mobile view be enabled for all desktops. Not gonna happen, but if they wanted to use the mobile view on the desktop I wanted to let them know how they could do it. I have noticed that switching to mobile view on the desktop does persist through the session but I thought perhaps there was a way to make it more permanent. Not a big deal, I don't want anyone doing any code for it I just wanted to see if there was an existing option.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Iridescent, yes it's common to go from Mobile to Desktop on larger phones, tablets, and the like. What is not common is to want to permanently set things to be presented in a mobile view on something bigger like a personal computer. †dismas†|^(talk) 01:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Do you have any Video Game articles (Particularly Mario or Nintendo) that could (or need) be created? (or maybe edited?)

I hope you can read the whole title. Thanks! Ramister (talk) 22:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:10, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Ramister: as you will see from the link that Sphilbrick gave, the people who work on that project are more concerned with the quality of video game articles than with the quantity. This makes it easier for you to help them – improving an existing article is much easier than creating a new one from scratch. Maproom (talk) 09:17, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

How do you post a second post on your first post (a post like this)?

Thanks! Ramister (talk) 22:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ramister. I assume that you've only used the "new section" tab. But if you just scroll down the page you'll see that each post has an edit link next to it (unless you've turned that off, but by default you will). You would locate your initial post on this page (easily for example, by using your computer's find function for your username, usually invoked by Ctrl+f (PC); ⌘ Cmd+f (Apple)) → click the edit link next to your post → indent with colons one level more than the post you're responding to → click Save Changes. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:33, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

One clarification. The mobile version, if relevant to you, doesn't have side edit links labeled edit, but rather indicated with a pencil icon.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:45, 11 November 2016 (UTC) Like this?

Redirect?

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Is this the place to request that a redirect be created? If yes, then please create a redirect for Goya guitar to Levin (guitar company). TYIA 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:1 (talk) 22:45, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:1: Hello! This is not where to request redirects. You will want to post your request at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects. Instructions are also on that page. -- Dane2007 ^talk 22:53, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Submitted. (Apparently, "ping" doesn't function for IPs) 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:1 (talk) 23:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC) — 01:47, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

 Done -- Dane2007 ^talk 02:05, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:1 (talk) 02:40, 12 November 2016 (UTC)