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March 28

Applause Entertainment Deletion

Hi,

This page has been recently deleted, may I enquire the reason for the same. (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: WP: COI, WP: YFA, WP: RS, WP: Notability (organizations and companies). It also happens to be my first page of many, and I hope that you wouldn't like Wikipedia becoming an absolute monarchy. In case you won't, so do I.

Request you to reconsider your decision.

Best --Arpit.toshi (talk) 00:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Arpit.toshi. As an administrator, I can read that deleted article and I did. It was unambiguously promotional and seemed much more like a press release than a neutral encyclopedia article. Please spend some time reading developing an understanding of the neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sir,

Accept my sincerest apologies, the page has now been updated, comprising of only information. Please check back again. --Arpit.toshi (talk) 02:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• Note: The page has been deleted again, as promotional and the OP blocked. Eagleash (talk) 08:20, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Creating an article

I'm currently attempting to write a bio and appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Kurt Moss — Preceding unsigned comment added by StraightUpCats (talk • contribs) 00:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You were attempting to write an autobiography, an activity very strongly discouraged here. You were also using an account name which advertised your current band, which is why that account is blocked. If you or your band ever become noteworthy enough for an encyclopedia article, somebody who does not have your obvious conflict of interest will eventually be moved to write an impartial article about that subject. In the meantime, please refrain from the impulse to commit autobiography here; it never ends well. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Supermax category restricted to the US?

I have added this question to the relevant talk page, but as per the guidance there, posting here too...

This terminology is used extensively outside the US, as can be seen in the Supermax prison article. Why does the description of the category restrict it to the US? I only looked at it after adding a South African prison I happened upon and was editing, and chose the category as an obvious name. Shouldn't there be a sub-category for the US, rather than restricting the general one to the US? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:37, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Is that terminology actually used outside the US? The inclusion of other countries' prisons in Supermax prison#Prisons with supermax facilities seems to be OR. As far as I can tell, it is not the same as Category A in the UK, for example. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Clarityfiend and thanks for your response. Yes, I see that that article definitely leaves much to be desired, but... It's definitely used in Australia (in particular with reference to the Goulburn unit, but also referring to other units, e.g. this blog by a lawyer and this 2013 abstract of a study entitled The Globalization of Supermax Prisons); appears to be used in South Africa (official source here uses the term, and several articles I found re C Max); New Zealand has one; and it appears in both the Cambridge and Oxford online dictionaries, not restricted to US use - although admittedly not widespread in literature about UK high security units. Other languages no doubt have different terminology, but it seems to have spread in the English-speaking world and surely would be understood as a category? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I agree that Australia does use the term. However, in South Africa, it seems to be a "security class of offender".[1], and I can't find anything that suggests New Zealand officially uses it (a company article doesn't count). You certainly can't equate "different terminology" to supermax; that would be WP:OR and more properly fit in something like Category:Maximum-security prisons (and in fact, there is a Category:Maximum security prisons in Australia). Clarityfiend (talk) 10:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Having read a bit more about the topic, I see that it's not clear-cut, and the term not only doesn't have one clear definition, but has obviously been bandied about a bit in the general media and used where it probably doesn't apply. I've made myself some notes and will perhaps come back to that article when I have time and do some more. Supermax is one step beyond maximum-security prisons, and according to a note to Chapter 1 in The Globalization of Supermax (Ross, 2013), "Only 6 correctional facilities officially called supermax exist outside of the US: Special Handling Unit, Saint-Anne-des-Plaines, Quebec; C-Max, Pretoria; Al Hayer Prison, Saudi Arabia; Goulburn Correctional Centre, NSW; Centro de Readaptaçã Provisória de Presidente Bernardes, São Paulo, Brazil; and Penitenciaría de Combita, Colombia. Anyway, I'll take C-Max out of the category for now. Thanks for your input, @Clarityfiend:. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Red link for Template:Wikidata

Recently, I am making a navigation template for Social Psychology. I adopted Template:Wikidata to make it language-free by referring all article into Q12345. However, I found that for those pages not-yet-created in my language will show a text only. I hope it is a red link so as to encourage people to create the page. May I ask any variable can make it work?

The said template zhWiki: zh:Template:SocialPsychology

Blacktc (talk) 05:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Blacktc: You could copy {{linked}} and use it on the current call. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Oh, thanks for your help! :-D Blacktc (talk) 14:01, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

posting

I am a current student and part of my assignment is to post on a website where people can comment on my research topic. This site was given as an example. How do I go about posting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amymorton18 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You can try the Reference desk. Click on the area that broadly matches your topic, and post away. Lourdes 07:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You might try an internet forum. This is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Legacypac (talk) 12:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Amymorton18: Your instructor does not understand Wikipedia and has given you incorrect information. Your instructor should learn what we actually are before making extra work for us like this. You cannot put your research paper here, and you cannot use Wikipedia as a substitute for a blog. Sorry, I know this is not your fault. If you prefer not to tell your instructor this personally, then try to find a way to do it anonymously. Good luck with your research. -Arch dude (talk) 14:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

• • • Dear Amy, what Arch dude and Legacypac write are absolutely right. At the same time, let me reiterate once again, the Wikipedia:Reference desk is the best place for you to request assistance in getting help with your research topic. In fact, no topic is off-limits at the Reference Desk, and one of the main reasons it exists is to give assistance in interpreting questions, help with ideas and concepts, and attempt to point editors exactly like you to resources that might help you to complete your research. So please don't be put off by the above comments and ask away at the Reference desk. Warmly, Lourdes 20:20, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Azerbaijani language

There are mistakes in the article about Azerbaijani language. I edit it by deleting the "Azerbaijani Turkish" part with providing explanation: "Azerbaijani language is not an accent of Turkish to be called 'Azerbaijani Turkish'. Just like Turkmen language isn't called Turkmen Turkish, or Kazakh isn't called Kazakh Turkish, etc. It has Turkic roots, it's NOT Turkish." But changes get always reversed by user Ogress. Care to explain why? I need valid arguments. Encyclopædia Iranica is not a valid source when it comes to Azerbaijani language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.197.238.6 (talk) 05:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

You should discuss this at Talk:Azerbaijani language with the other editor. And please don't ask same question in multiple places. You asked at Teahouse already and someone has replied you. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Proper transclusion of {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}

I'm currently working on Portal:Tropical cyclones/Active tropical cyclones, where I've added a line to display the time of the last update to the page. Is there a way to allow this to transclude properly on pages such as Portal:Tropical cyclones, to show the last revision time of the transcluded page instead of the currently displayed page? Regards. RAVENPVFF | talk ~ 08:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ravenpuff: {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} is not a template but a magic word. They often accept a page name or other parameter after a colon. This is mentioned at Template:REVISIONTIMESTAMP. {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Portal:Tropical cyclones/Active tropical cyclones}} produces 20240429201537. The page name has to be given if the code is transcluded on another page. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:41, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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Your comment is incomprehensible. If English is not your primary language, you may wish to contribute to the version of Wikipedia in your primary language. 331dot (talk) 08:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

About The History of Surajmal

sir, im thankful to wikipedia that it provides a good platform to get information. but since last 5-6 months im seeing that the history of Raja Surajmal is editing and those users are deleting his whole liftime battles and achievements.

please help me to solve this problem and provide full history of Raja Surajmal ( as it was in reality or you can take reference from database till last year JUne 2018 )Suraj_Mal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jatrd (talk • contribs) 12:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Jatrd:Look at the edit history of the article. On 18 December 2018, a large amount of info was deleted because it was a copy of a copyrighted web page. If you wish to discuss how to improve the article, please use the article's talk page.

How to search for recently created pages in Portal namespace?

I tried special controbutions but that did not work. I'd like a list of portals created in the last month or so. Legacypac (talk) 12:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Special:NewPages has a Namespace field to select Portal. It includes subpages. This search sorts by creation descending and omits subpages. The shown time stamps are last edit and not creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:33, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Query Regarding Edits for IUPAP

Hi, I have been preparing a massive update for the wiki page of IUPAP which hardly has any information in it.So as to improve the page i haave been preparing a massive edit for the page of IUPAP with all the important information, citation and tables.Right now it is not complete. I want to ask that should i sent the whole draft for review on sandbox or should i write a long note for edit summary or something else? Thanking You Regards Srijanx22 (talk) 18:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

For convenience, the proposed edit to International Union of Pure and Applied Physics is on the users' sandbox, the diff does not seem that useful. --Danski454 (talk) 19:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

(ec)@Srijanx22:If you are unsure, you should probably go ahead and put in the draft namespace and ask for a formal review by placing {{subst:submit}} at the top. However, if you are reasonably sure that it's clearly a big improvement, you can just be bold WP:BOLD and make a massive edit, knowing that anyone who objects is free to revert your edit. -Arch dude (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank You @Arch dude for your advice. Regards Srijanx22 (talk) 20:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, @Danski454, right now I know my sandbox draft isnt ready.It needs some addtions and improvements. I was asking for future. Regards Srijanx22 (talk) 20:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

My new page

hello, I created a new page a few weeks ago (Simon Wells Musician), how do I get it published? Thanks, Katie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guncotton Katie (talk • contribs) 22:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Guncotton Katie: Your submission was declined because it does not contain enough references to reliable sources. Once you have added some more, you can add {{subst:submit}} to resubmit it for review. --Danski454 (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

How do I change the color of links in Wikipedia?

How do I change the color of the blue links in Wikipedia articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regasaj123 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Regasaj123: Do you mean change all links for you only, or change specific links for everybody, or change red broken links to blue working links, or something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Listen, I want to change the COLOR of the blue links. How do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regasaj123 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

As PrimeHunter said, you need to be more specific. Do you want to change their color for anyone that uses Wikipedia, or just you? There are many meanings to your question and it's hard to help you unless you clarify. Thanks 331dot (talk) 02:03, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@331dot, I want to change the color of the links just for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regasaj123 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

• Hello Regasaj123, please read Help:Using colours. Lourdes 02:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

See Help:Link color#Styling all links just for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:52, 29 March 2019 (UTC)