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August 23

NDB Template ref in a sfn template ref situation

Hi Folks, this regards ref 259 of Red Orchestra (espionage). It is a problem of the NDB template being used with sfn. Do I need to specify {{sfn|Walther G. Oschilewski|pp=88–89}} I could use this url [1] with a cite book ref on [2]. It is volume 7, so straight up cite book and it would work fine. I really don't want Walther G. Oschilewski, pp88–89, showing i.e. the first name. The normal sfn template only uses the surname. It would be the odd one out. scope_creep^Talk 00:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

|ref={{sfnref|Oschilewski|1966}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 02:27, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Trappist the monk: I'll give it a try. scope_creep^Talk 09:17, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

That worked a treat. scope_creep^Talk 09:25, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

2022 Major League Baseball season article about Little League Classic

Can you fix an error i made about the article please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 01:16, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I fixed the cite error if that's the issue you were refering to, there was a misplaced space in the URL. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 01:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

The SVG logo

Hi, I want to add svg image to the another wikipedia, how can i download svg file Nguyenquanghai19 (talk) 01:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nguyenquanghai19: Click on the image in a Wikipedia article, Then click on the "details" button on the lower right to get to the file description page for the image. The file description page has a banner line near the top, and the first thing on that banner line is a "download" button. If you then upload the image somewhere else, make sure you add an attribution that includes the URL of the file here. If you fail to attribute, you are violating the copyright. -Arch dude (talk) 03:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Nguyenquanghai19:. I note that you contribute to the Vietnamese version of Wikipedia. If you wish to add a file from Wikipedia Commons to an article in that language, you can just add its filename there. The whole idea of Commons is that it holds files that can be used anywhere without downloading/re-uploading them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:06, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull:. However, some files do not appear on the Vietnamese Wikipedia. The example is File:Vissel Kobe.svg or File:Fenerbahçe.svg Nguyenquanghai19 (talk) 13:30, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Nguyenquanghail9. File:Vissel Kobe.svg is an example of a non-free file. Commons does not accept such files, ever. English Wikipedia allows them, provided their use meets all the criteria in the NFCC - and if you look at the File description page, there is a lengthy justification for having it in English Wikipedia. Some other Wikipedias accept non-free content under their own conditions: others do not. If the Vietnamese WP accepts non-free content then you may upload that image to it from https://www.vissel-kobe.co.jp/ . If it does not, then there is no way to display that logo on that Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 14:56, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

How to transfer ready-made text from the sandbox into the main page?

How to transfer ready-made text from the sandbox into the main page?Тошболта (talk) 02:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Тошболта: First it is absolutely essential that you establish that your subject is notable (WP:N) by our definition, and specifically look at WP:NACADEMIC. You must find several reliable sources (WP:RS) that are suitable to establish notability: this is a higher standard than simple reliability. see WP:CSMN. Please do not attempt to proceed until you have done this, because notability is the one absolute requirement and we have no way to help you make the subject notable: see WP:AMOUNT. After that, you must improve the formatting of your article. Take a look as several articles here at Wikipedia about similar subjects to see how we generally format them. Then, move your sandbox into Draft space (i.e., move it to Draft:Nuritdinova Rakhimovna), and add the following to the top: {{subst:submit}}. This will add a box to the top of your article with a "submit" button. do no use the "submit" button until you think the article is good enough for a reviewer to look at. Reviewers will then tell you how to improve the article, and if you follow the advice they give you, a reviewer will eventually move the article into main space. -Arch dude (talk) 03:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Тошболта. You should have the sufficient permissions to be able to move the page yourself to the main space, but I'd personally recommend you submit your sandbox to be reviewed by the Articles for Creation editors by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. Isabelle ^🔔 03:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Akuol de Mabior

The article Akuol de Mabior states:

In 2013 she appeared in editorials for City and The Ones 2 Watch and walked in the fall shows for Costello Tagliapietra, the Academy of Art University, DVF, Thom Browne, Mara Hoffman, and Custo Dalmau and in the spring show for Marissa Webb.

Now City (magazine) is about a Finnish free-of-charge magazine for urban cultural life. It is not a fashion magazine, least of all a South Sudanese one. Did she really appear in this magazine, or is there a different magazine named City? I read the cited source, but it didn't specify the magazine any further than its name. JIP | Talk 03:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@JIP: The best place to ask would be on the article's talk page: Talk:Akuol de Mabior. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@JIP: Having said that, a quick Google search found https://models.com/work/city-magazine-akuol-is-the-one and clicking on the "City Magazine" takes you to a web page with a photo of a cover of "CITY" that doesn't look like the Finnish magazine. Maybe it's John McDonald's magazine? GoingBatty (talk) 05:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

After looking at one of the covers on the site, I can confirm it's not the Finnish magazine. However, the link on the website to http://citymagazine.com doesn't work as the domain has expired, so I can't find out any more information from there. JIP | Talk 10:09, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Knowledge Base for our company

Hello,

my boss wants me to look into the possibilities of how to use Wiki for our knowledge base. The knowledge base shall give our customers access.

What are the possibilites? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eminelemenler (talk • contribs)

Eminelemenler As you are editing at the direction of your boss, the Wikipedia Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing declaration(click for instructions). Wikipedia has no interest in helping your company enhance its search results, Google knowledge graphs, or knowledge base. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as an encyclopedia Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself, only in what others completely unconnected with the company choose to say about it. Please also understand that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Eminelemenler! It would of course be possible for your company to create its own Wiki website using Wiki software – there are many independent Wikis operating worldwide. You could use open-source (available for free) software such as that which Wikipedia uses, or a proprietary version whose vendors would presumably provide tech support in the usual way. Either way, you would probably need the expertise of your company's IT department to set up and run your "EminelemenlerWiki" which, of course, would have no connection with this Wikipedia project. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.162.207 (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Can I submit German article from my English Page?

Hello Dear Wikipedians, I am little bit confused, so thought to drop a message. Can I submit my German Article by choosing an English language as default?. Thanks!

Hi @Smithzack: remember to sign your comments with the four tilde's ~~~~ so we know who you are. Is your article in the German language? scope_creep^Talk 09:21, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Smithzack. English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia are entirely separate projects. You cannot submit an article from one into the other: you have to work inside your target Wikipedia, using its processes (which may not be the same as another Wikipedia's).See de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 10:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Why was my edit removed?

Hello, I worked to fix some errors several months ago the Sacred Heart University Luxembourg page. I worked with one of your people and they told me if these errors were corrected then I could remove the "This article has multiple issues" box. I did that and then waited several months for the changes to settle and then I just removed the text and then got a message from someone saying "Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Sacred Heart University Luxembourg—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Materialscientist." Can you explain this please?

Thank you, Johanna

Hello, Johanna.L.Sorrentino. In your only previous edit from this account, you removed the maintenance templates and the infobox from the article Sacred Heart University Luxembourg, without leaving an edit summary or a message on its talk page explaining your actions. This inevitably looks suspicious. The thing to do now, according to BRD is to open a discussion on the article's talk page, explaining why you think your changes are appropriate, and ping Materialscientist to invite them to the discussion. NOte that if you are associated with the University you need to be aware of the restrictions on editing with a conflict of interest; and if you are in any way paid or employed by them, you need to make the mandatory declarations explained at WP:PAID. --ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

An article deleted

Hello Spacebit company had a page called Spacebit (en Wiki). We created a similar page in Ukrainian Days later the En version was deleted Can someone help and explain why that happened? It seems like the Ukr one replaced the Eng one Cause Ukr one was called Spacebit Ukraine and is now called Spacebit (Eng version name)

Hello, Vladyslava Smolinska. There are several misconceptions in your post. First, it is not the case that "Spacebit company had a page" - Wikipedia had an article called "Spacebit", but Wikipedia articles do not belong to, and are not under the control of, their subjects. Secondly, en-wiki and uk-wiki are entirely separate projects, and what happens in one does not generally have any effect on what happens in the other. The articleSpacebit was deleted from English Wikipedia two days ago: the deletion log says "2021-08-21T17:42:29 MER-C talk contribs deleted page Spacebit (G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban: Serghiy Hrabarook, sock of someone per WMF lock reason)" - so it was created illegally and cannot be retained. What is your connection with Spacebit? --ColinFine (talk) 10:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Looking further at Hrabarook, I see that this account has been banned from many Wikipedia projects, including en, uk, and ru Wikipedias, for persistent promotion. Wikipedia may not be used for promotion, under any circumstances. --ColinFine (talk) 10:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

It's worse than that. They're a sock of someone banned by the owners of this website, most likely for spamming. MER-C 11:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

longest war

America's longest war wasn't Afghanistan, it was with North Korea which ended formally with Trump and Kim Jong-un signing a peace treaty. Please make the appropriate amendments to Wikipedia.

On 12 June, there was a meeting between US President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un. The Panmunjom Declaration signed during the inter-Korean summit on 27 April pledged to consent to a peace treaty to officially end the Korean War 1950-53 by the end of 2018.

If you think there is something in a Wikipedia article which could be improved, please suggest it on the talk page of that particular article, preferably citing a reliable published source for the change. --ColinFine (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

No peace treaty was actually signed by Trump or anyone else but combat ended in 1953. We are not going to claim America has been at war for 68 years with no combat. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Steven Ford

FYI

 – Added section header. GoingBatty (talk) 20:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello,

I'm wondering if a page for 'Steven Ford' can be made on the following wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings—Hants

He is a candidate in the coming election, and it would be great if his name could become an editable link that I and others could populate.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peyshaun (talk • contribs) 20:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@Peyshaun: Ford has to have an article before his name can be linked to it. But without significant media coverage, he's not here yet. Just being a candidate isn't enough - he has to win first, and it has to be a significant position also. See WP:NPOLITICIAN. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:35, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Peyshaun: Hi there! First the article about Steven Ford (politician) would be created, and then the link could be added to the Kings—Hants article. Before deciding to make an article (or a draft for the Articles for creation process), someone would have to consider if Ford meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". WP:POLITICIAN states that being a candidate for office does not guarantee that they're worthy of an article. Therefore, someone would need to find several independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Ford. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Note also that articles about the election do not constitute evidence that a candidate is notable. If the candidate is not notable in his or her own right, entirely aside from the election, mere routine election coverage does not make the candidate notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)