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May 21[edit]

Article title question[edit]

Hi, I stumbled across Satyanarayan Singh (Bihar politician, died 2020). That's the title of the article. Is that correct or does it need to be changed? If so, how does one change it? Thank you. :) Abillionradios (talk) 00:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Abillionradios the title looks fine: Satyanarayan Singh lists several Bihar politicians, hence the need to mention the date of death. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation. TSventon (talk) 01:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did wonder. Thank you so much. :) Abillionradios (talk) 01:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Finding the right OCLC[edit]

Dear Help Desk. It seems that books cited as sources in Wikipedia articles should be identified with an OCLC number if they are too old for ISBN. So I started looking for OCLCs for such sources. I went to the WorldCat website, typed in the book's title, and then checked for the right publisher and publication year. I have added such OCLCs on many sources in the articles on my watchlist. Then I found that in the case of books available on Internet Archive, an OCLC number is often given among the metadata of the book in Internet Archive. However, the OCLC numbers found in these two ways rarely (never?) agree. Which OCLC number should be preferred?

Examples:

  • Debrett, John (1828). Peerage of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Vol. 2 (17th ed.). London: F. C. and J. Rivington. OCLC 54499602.

Internet Archive: no OCLC given.

The OCLC above is the one given by Internet Archive where the title page says 1930 but the metadata say 1910. In WorldCat I found (year is 1910): 2643587

The OCLC above is the one given by Internet Archive. In WorldCat I found (year is 1955): 316159899

With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 09:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Help Desk. There seems to be no answer to my question. I am not even sure any more whether OCLCs are really required. For my needs I have decided to prefer the OCLCs mentioned in Internet Archive for the books I cite from there. With many thanks, Johannes Schade (talk) 09:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

unable to login[edit]

Dear Team,

We are unable to log in to the page we have created in the wiki.

We don't know the username mail or password.


kindly let us know the username and mail of our wiki so we can log in and make the necessary changes.


Thanks. Team D.K Taknet

Assuming that this is about an article on Wikipedia and not some other wiki site:
  • You don't need a username or password to edit the article. If you plan to make edits, you are encouraged, though not required, to create an account.
  • It's not "your" wiki, it's Wikipedia's article. If you have some connection with the subject of the article, you shouldn't edit it yourself (or yourselves, see below). Instead, you should describe the changes you propose on its talk page.
  • You have signed as a team. Wikipedia does not allow teams to share an account.
Maproom (talk) 10:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hello, team. I think you have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. D K Taknet is an encyclopaedia article: it has no connection to any account, and it is not possible to "log into it". It does not belong to Taknet or his team, and they do not control its contents. Any editor (logged in or not) may edit it - except those who have a conflict of interest.
What you should do if you want to recommend changes to that article is:
  • Create a personal account for each individual who is going to be working on this. (This is not compulsory, but is strongly recommended). The accounts do not need to have the person's real name (I do, but many editors use a pseudonym), but they should not look as if they are used by a team. So for example "JHT at Taknet team" would be OK if you wanted to show your affiliation.
  • Each of the accounts should put a notice on its user page explaining your connection to Taknet. If you are in any way paid or employed to do this, then you are considered a paid editor, and you must put a declaration on your user page.
  • For each change you wish to see in the article, make an edit request on the article's talk page, being as specific as you can (eg "Add sentence ...", or "Change text X to Y", and give a reliably published source for any information you wish to add.
  • An uninvolved editor will in time see your request, and decide what to do with it.
--ColinFine (talk) 10:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure they are talking about User:Dk.taknet. Regards SoWhy 13:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dk.taknet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) hasn't set an email adress in their preferences, or it is unconfirmed. But even if it had, since it breaks the username policy, a new account (name) is required anyway. 14:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Help[edit]

How do i publish and remove the draft from a wiki im making?.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yunghush (talk • contribs)

Yunghush You are creating a Wikipedia article, not "a wiki", which is a type of website of which Wikipedia is one type. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit your draft for review. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

USE OF A PAINTING THAT IS DISPLAYED IN WKIPEDIA[edit]

I WOULD LIKE TO USE WINSLOW HOMER'S PAINTING "EIGHT BELLS" IN MY COMPANY'S INFORMATION. HIS DEATH IS OVER 70 YEARS AGO. IS IT LEGAL TO USE THIS IMAGE? WHO OWNS THIS PAINTING? WHO DO I ASK FOR A FORMAL APPROVAL? STEVE KALISH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.199.118.144 (talk) 13:21, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Steve. Thanks for stopping by to ask. First of all, please don't type in ALL CAPS when writing messages to people. It gets interpreted as SHOUTING and can be seen as distracting and rude. Secondly, questions about media copyright can be found by clicking the image in question and reading the image license. If you click the image in the article Eight Bells (painting), you'll see the following text under the lisencing:
This work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 100 years or fewer.
This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1926.
Being that the work is in the public domain, that means it is free to use without restriction. This is not true of most images at Wikipedia, however, so do take care. In the future, if you have trickier copyright questions, you may want to direct them to Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, which specializes in helping people with questions just like this one. --Jayron32 13:27, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jose Patricio de la Barcena[edit]

Hello Editor: Got the thumbnail photo on my article but don't know how to reduce size (??). Thank youMiguel Antonio Teixeira (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Miguel Antonio Teixeira: Hello and welcome! You had some stray text that was messing with the interpretation of the file template. I removed it for you here. You might want to check out Help:Pictures for more information on proper syntax for formatting pictures.--Jayron32 13:31, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yea!! Thank you so much!Miguel Antonio Teixeira (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creating subpages[edit]

Greetz Helpdeskers, hoe all is well. Does anyone know if we have, say a script, or add-on, that allows the automatic creation of a user subpage? E.g.—if I wanted to create User:Serial Number 54129/Knows FA about WP, it would be handy if the user, etc, bit was pre-filled and I just added my title. If you get my drift. Cheers! ——Serial 14:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like a job for Help:Inputbox: —Cryptic 15:03, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You could also do this:
Which discretely prefixes your user talk prefix Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:19, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, thanks, @Cryptic and Victor Schmidt:, that's absolutely the thing I wanted. Is there a big difference between the two? And, also, can I just copy this code to e.g. my userpage for easy access? (as: having the memory of a goldfish, I'll forget I even asked here by next week!). Thanks very much for your really useful replies! ——Serial 16:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: The main difference is that my solution discretely prepends User:Serial Number 54129/ (which means you can't forget it) while Cryptic's Solution doesn't do that automatically, meaing if you replace the inputbox content with "Example", you might end up at Example. One small note though: When you want to create user supages, you obviviously want to have the default= param state User:Serial Number 54129/ so the page actually lands in the user namespace and not on the talkpage. But yes, if you take care of that you can safely copy that to your userpage. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's understood, thanks both, again!  :) ——Serial 19:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

How do I replace a photo in an Infobox?

Felbridge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felbridge - I am trying to update the pic of St John the Divine Parish Church with a March 2021 photo from my friend Malcolm Francis who has given me authority to do this. I had no difficulty updating the pic of the church interior , but this is in an Infobox - can't see how to replace the photo in the Infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgordonwilkinson (talk • contribs) 16:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drgordonwilkinson I assume you are talking about File:StJohnsFelbridgeExteriorMarch2021.jpg. Has your friend contacted Wikimedia Commons to confirm that he releases his rights to the file? There is a suitable email template at Commons:OTRS#Email message template for release of rights to a file. If this is not done the image is liable to be deleted from Commons.
To replace the image open the article, click edit source, find the code for the infobox at the top of the article and replace the name of the old image with the name of the new image. TSventon (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will send the link to Malcolm and he can confirm his release of copyright for the image. Thanks for your support. Drgordonwilkinson (talk 16:41, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a mention of Richard Whittington to Whittington College in the article. TSventon (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have some more background on that from Felbridge Parish and People, published by the Felbridge Parish Council in 1999. Meanwhile, I am having difficulty swapping the photo. Malcolm filled out the copyright release form and sent me a copy.
You said "To replace the image open the article, click edit source, find the code for the infobox at the top of the article and replace the name of the old image with the name of the new image" - is the following the page where I should make the changes - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_John_the_Divine_at_Felbridge_-_geograph.org.uk_-_23455.jpg
I want to replace the existing image with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StJohnsFelbridgeExteriorMarch2021.jpg but just can't see how to do it and include the photo data - date taken, camera settings etc. Drgordonwilkinson (talk 10:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Drgordonwilkinson, I have replaced the image. The old image stays on Commons, but the image name in the article infobox is updated. Commons now confirms the email has been received. The full photodata is not needed in the article, but is available on Commons. The image caption is in the ninth line of the Felbridge article code, following "static_image_caption=". TSventon (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Drgordonwilkinson: By the way you can notify me or another editor by using the reply to {{reply to|Username}} template and signing your post ~~~~. TSventon (talk) 15:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's very kind of you and your support is really appreciated. The new photo looks so much better than the old one! If you are interested in more background on Whittington College, let me know how I can share a scanned image of a couple of pages from the reference doc I mentioned earlier. Drgordonwilkinson (talk 16:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Highlighted things being deleted when using copy-paste[edit]

I was just wondering if anyone knows why a highlighted part of like when you want to paste something, is deleted and just keeps getting deleted after trying again and again? A particular topic on List of Nintendo Switch games (A–F), I don't usually like to type everything out by hand, so I copy and paste, and when doing so, it's deleted and it frustrates me. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 17:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you are using copy (ctrl-C) and not cut (ctrl-X)? --Jayron32 18:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually on a mobile phone. It was working out great some time ago, and now it doesn't seem to work. After highlighting the part, it just deletes it. Even on an Android phone it happens often now. And I don't know if others are having a similar problem, could someone ask and experiment if they are having this issue and it's not just me? And yes, I'm using copy and not cut. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 20:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'm actually using both cut and copy, and then pasting. but when highlighting stuff and pasting it, it has a 'select all', tab beside the paste, which probably is the reason why it's doing that. But it still deletes it when pasting though, which is weird. I'm using Android Galaxy S9+. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 04:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro[reply]

Template:Coord[edit]

I added coordinates to this page: Walter Bean Grand River Trail and am unsure why it's rendering improperly. Any help greatly appreciated, thanks! Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 18:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mcguy15: Not your fault, this is a known issue with the Vector code. For more information, see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Coordinates in title dropped down, and the issue is being tracked at phab:T281974. DanCherek (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DanCherek: Thanks for the info! That sucks, all I can do is wait. Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 20:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very small font size[edit]

Since a day or two, English Wikipedia's texts (article content) appear in a very small font size on my screen. My skin is Vector with "Use Legacy Vector" preference. I have exactly the same preferences in German-language Wikipedia, but there the text appears in normal size. Maybe connected to this (German thread) and Task 283206, but I don't see the effect of the shrunken font in English Wikipedia mentioned there. Any hints, ideas, or can someone report this effect in the appropriate place (another Phabricator thread? My experience with Phabricator is limited and I don't feel confident in handling it). Gestumblindi (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Unchecking "Use Legacy Vector" doesn't change this, the font size here in English Wikipedia remains much too small. Gestumblindi (talk) 18:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Try holding down the ctrl key and push the + key. Sometimes you can accidentally zoom out/in and the browser remembers those settings next time you visit that website. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but that's not it. My zoom factor is on 100 %. Of course I could zoom in to increase the font size, but the standard size at 100 % (neither zoomed in nor zoomed out) is now very small (note, only in *English* Wikipedia), and that started about 2 days ago. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In the German thread, Hgzh pointed out the preference to which this is connected: It happens if "Vector classic typography (use only sans-serif in Vector skin)" is checked in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. I unchecked the "classic typography" and now my font size is normal again. But I suppose that this gadget needs fixing. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a discussion at the technical village pump here. MediaWiki:Gadget-VectorClassic.css needs to be adjusted. -- hgzh 21:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Froelich[edit]

I would like to add my name to wikipedia.....here related articles:

https://www.assumption.edu/news-and-events/news/honoring-his-familys-legacy-assumptions-school-nursing-named-christopher

here is a Worcester Business News article: https://www.wbjournal.com/article/assumption-names-school-of-nursing-after-1977-alumnus-who-donated-millions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisfroelich (talk • contribs) 19:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Chrisfroelich: (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Hi there! Writing an article about yourself is highly discouraged here as it's a big conflict of interest. If there are multiple, independent, reliable sources to prove notability, you could submit an article to Articles for Creation, but again, it's highly discouraged. You could also try requesting an article here. Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 20:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

moved misplaced question[edit]

I want to publish an article on Wikipedia, could you please help me with the procedure?

@Amna.anwar: I moved your question from the top of the page to a new section where it will be more visable and attract answers. RudolfRed (talk) 22:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Amna.anwar (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) I would recommend going through Articles for Creation. You can follow instructions to create a draft where you can create the article at your own pace. Then once it's finished, you may submit it, and if it's up to standard, it will be put in the wiki. Please note that any new articles must be about a notable subject: receiving coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, see WP:GNG. Thanks! Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 00:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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