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April 25[edit]

Search within a category[edit]

Is there a way to do this, like using a category as namespace for a search? I was just trying to search through Polish idioms on Wiktionary, and since I can't read Polish I realised I wouldn't get far without assistance, like being able to search for a part of a word that could feature somewhere in the phrase.  Card Zero  (talk) 01:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Card Zero: yes, see search terms incategory: and deepcategory:. MKFI (talk) 13:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! Thank you.  Card Zero  (talk) 14:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Card Zero: it should work in Wiktionary as well: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=incategory%3A%22English+numerals%22+forty&go=Look+up&ns0=1. MKFI (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Single-use images[edit]

Are images created for a single use outside article space allowed (e.g for bug reports)? I looked at WP:IUP but nothing. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 02:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free content can only be used within the article namespace per WP:NFCC#9; so, they can't be used on user pages, in drafts, on talk pages, etc. Any image not licensed as non-free can be pretty much used on any page, but whether it should be used probably depends on whether the same information can be provided just as easily using text alone. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks! —interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 03:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you need to discuss a non-free image, it can be linked to by putting a colon in front of the image name, such as File:Example.jpg. Mjroots (talk) 18:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I want to edit[edit]

I want to edit things for fun and laugh ööh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agamemnon.güse (talkcontribs) 09:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong website for that. Wikipedians are generally very opposed to attemps at humor in the actual articles. It's a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Agamemnon.güse, surely you realize that changing years in an article, even to future years, simply hides the "real" information. Readers are left with no knowledge of what the correct info is. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 05:50, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Agamemnon.güse: Actually, there are some humorous project pages. Here's an example. However, that they are humorous should be disclosed. I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 03:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Article Members of the House of Assembly of Jamaica[edit]

This title produces a list of 44 names erefrred to pages. If you browse a little, you find that it is, in fact, a list of the members for only one year in the Aseembly's considerably longer history, and that the year is 1820. It may well be that someone has simply entered the membership list to be found in one of the Jamaica Almanac transcriptions to be found on line, possibly in the site, Jamaican Family Search.

As it stands the title misrepresents the information offered, and minimises it, so that the names are presented in alphabetical order of surname, without any indication of their constituencies - bare minimu, im any such list. If you look up the talk section of the article, you are informed that few people will be keeping any sort of an eye on it, and the palce to go to to discuss it is the help desk.

There is certainly a case for an article of this kind, but this afrticle is not it. Where are the Pages?

Jim Brennan (Delahays)Delahays (talk) 10:33, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Delahays. I can't find such an article, or evidence that one has been deleted. I think you must be referring to Category:Members of the House of Assembly of Jamaica, which is not an article, but a category: it contains (links to) precisely those articles which have been added to it - if you believe there are other articles which should be in it, you can add them to it (which you actually do by adding the string
[[Category:Members of the House of Assembly of Jamaica]]
at the bottom of the article, rather than editing the category itself).
Alternatively, it is possible that an article could be created called List of Members of the House of Assembly of Jamaica (currently red because there is no such article), similar to List of members of the House of Assembly of Dominica (though that relates to a current legislature) ColinFine (talk) 11:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Members of the House of Assembly of Jamaica is indeed as ColinFine describes — and most (maybe all, I haven't checked) of those in the category were elected in 1820. It seems that Philafrenzy has created articles, many of them stubs, for all those elected in that year. The outcome seems to me not altogether ideal. Maproom (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So, like the rest of Wikipedia then? Do you wish to collaborate on expanding them? Philafrenzy (talk) 16:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fusion of Berlin and Brandenburg table[edit]

Hi,

A while ago, I created an article on the Fusion of Berlin and Brandenburg, including a 1996 referendum. Problem was that I am not well-versed in editing wikitables and in addition, I simply can't find all of the numbers to complete the table; the sources are dead and so I just have to rely on the German article. So, I would like some help to just remove the "Electorate", "Invalid votes" and "votes" columns and grey out the turnout numbers for Fmr. East and West Berlin; oh, and I think I saw a table where something was subdivided, would that be possible for Fmr. East and West Berlin? That would make it possible to remove the "(whole)" designation and make it more readable.

Thank you, Maxwhollymoralground (talk) 17:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Maxwhollymoralground I've deleted the empty columns, but don't understand the rest of your request. If you don't receive the help you need here, try the article help page: Talk:Fusion of Berlin and Brandenburg. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

search intitle:Weekly for Article: Weekly[edit]

how to do:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=intitle:Weekly

for: Weekly ? .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 18:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@0mtwb9gd5wx: Weekly is the first search result for me with that search. Can you clarify what you are asking about? RudolfRed (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
look at the page, Weekly, source code.
what is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=intitle:Weekly as a wikilink?
some disambiguation pages like, (fake example) foo, may have a list item all pages containing "foo" as an entry. 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can find only two pages in the entire encyclopedia which have an "all pages containing" link. So I don't think that this is a well accepted practice. This is one of the pages that has such a link. It uses the Search link template, but the template documentation states that this template should not be used in article space. CodeTalker (talk) 00:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@0mtwb9gd5wx: You're probably looking for Template:In title. It's used on hundreds of disambiguation pages. -- R. S. Shaw (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
{{in title|weekly}} & {{intitle|weekly}} & {{lookfrom|weekly}} were the templates I wanted. Also, this new reply could use the insert picklist from a standard article source code editor. ...<nowiki></nowiki> .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 01:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Efficient Collection of Lists[edit]

For example I if I wanted a collection of all wikipedia pages of species of animals. The Animals category has many many subcategories, including things like "List of extinct cetaceans". This is good and useful, but I'm wondering, do I have to go through all these subcategories, collecting all of them, and all of their content in their lists, to combine them together? I.e. do I have to make a "search tree"-like data structure, then collect all leaves and hope all are accounted for? Or is there some more general way to seach for "animals". I have started experimenting with the API and couldn't find too much to help. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnelson54 (talkcontribs) 19:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried using Petscan and combining categories to see if you can pull them all together that way? I've found it helpful for the work I do though I'm by no means a hotshot at it. Jessamyn (my talk page) 20:18, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dnelson54: our sister project Wikidata is a structured database that has items for Wikipedia articles. You can build queries to generate lists. I think a recall some example queries that can climb a class hierarchy. -Arch dude (talk) 02:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Minimalist/Deletionist users[edit]

Is there a way to find users who identify this way? Sometimes discussions about removal can be too one-sided with users who want to keep/include. -- Franbegbi (talk) 22:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Franbegbi. Any editor in good standing is welcome to participate in deletion debates. However, seeking out editors based on their willingness to delete (or keep) articles is against a behavioral guideline, Wikipedia:Canvassing. Cullen328 (talk) 22:37, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Understood Cullen328, I didn't think it would affect any outcome, I just wondered why some users identify as such and if there's a category? -- Franbegbi (talk) 22:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Franbegbi: If you just want to find some deletionists, Category:Deletionist Wikipedians lists folk who have self-identified as such. But as Cullen says, don't use it to canvass editors to deletion discussions; editors who do that persistently are likely to end up blocked. Deor (talk) 22:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Franbegbi, here is a relevant quote from Meta: Few editors would explicitly describe themselves as "deletionists", rather the term is often used in a derogatory manner, as self-deprecating humor, or simply used to expose contrast with people describing themselves as inclusionists. You can find the link at WP:DELETIONISM. Cullen328 (talk) 22:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And you may find the article Deletionism and inclusionism in Wikipedia of interest. Deor (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Password Recovery Failed[edit]

Greetings,

I cannot log into my profile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WikiHelper2134

I have been trying for months to get this resolved. I do not have the old email account where this was active and the password I have saved failed.

I emailed several members of the community and tried reaching out to several emails at the Wikimedia Foundation.

Do you guys have a Tech Support number or email I can reach out too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.226.46 (talk) 22:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, if you can't access the email associated with it, you're SOL. PRAXIDICAE💕 22:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If password recovery has failed and you no longer have access to the email account you used when registering for that particular account, then perhaps the best you can do would be to have the other account treated as a compromised account and create a new one to use instead. You probably should email Wikimedia VRT to have your identity verified by a VRT member. Once VRT verifies that you're WikiHelper2134, the account will probably be locked. You can then create a new account and add a link to the old one to your new user page. You can also recreate your old user page on your new user page. This way people will know the same person was behind both accounts and see all of the edits you made with the old one. Finally, one thing you might want to be careful of is using an unregistered account to post questions about this type of thing on public pages like this one for the reasons explained in WP:REALWORLD. Your might want to ask further questions via email or using WP:IRC if your worried about your IP address be revealed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]