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July 21[edit]

How do I create a new page?[edit]

I'm just trying to create a few new pages and was wondering how to. 2600:4040:52AB:4600:992A:AD09:7AD9:120C (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome. Check out WP:YFA for guidance on that. There is a wizard there to help you create a draft article for review. RudolfRed (talk) 02:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BACKWARD may be of help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise, welcome to Wikipedia. First, I would register and create a user name for yourself, it makes you much easier to contact via your talk page. Although the WP:BACKWARD essay says that creating a new article is not necessarily the most difficult thing to do here, there is unquestionably a huge learning curve ahead of you. Mastering the editor, either visual or raw text Wiki markup is a task in itself; learning the general layout of WP articles; finding reliable independent sources and incorporating the information as inline references within the new article; and a load of other slightly less important things as well. Personally I would start by picking a topic you know something about, have a look at some articles, and see if you can improve any of them. Most edits which introduce new information will need to be backed up with reliable sources. WP:Referencing for beginners can be useful. Although some editors can be helpful to newcomers, many can appear brusque and critical if your edits don't measure up to the high standards we try to achieve. I was editing on WP for over a year before I felt confident of drafting a complete new article by myself. Very best of luck. MinorProphet (talk) 06:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Family[edit]

I'm not a good writer or speaker but how do I change a fact that's not true on aldoulph thiers 2601:803:4300:55B0:840F:24CD:D790:8CC3 (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain:
  • Which article are you looking at changing? Is it Adolphe Thiers?
  • Which fact is incorrect? What should it be instead?
  • What source do you have for the correct fact?
Also, editing in general is easier if you sign up for an account. Other editors could notify you when they respond to questions like this. Regards, Rjjiii (talk) 06:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is Telegram a reliable source?[edit]

Hello! I'd like to publish an article about well-known people (i.e., artists, authors, etc.) and I was wondering whether it is appropriate to take from a Telegram channel. I'm aware that I can take from several social media platforms, but I was wondering about Telegram. Thank you! Yara Elhawary (talk) 12:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC) Yara Elhawary (talk) 12:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not, per WP:SPS. Anyone can set up a Telegram account and say whatever they like with no editorial oversight. Some people like Yevgeny Prigozhin have become notable on Telegram, but their posts have been reported in reliable secondary sources.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:57, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

some one made a page under my name[edit]

hi, actually someone made a page under my name as 'mohsen rabiei' in wikipedia and i am struggling to add my bio and a new article under my name, could you please specify how i can handle it Mohsen rabi (talk) 13:05, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a user page here User:Mohsen rab and your user name is Mohsen rabi what is it you want to do? Theroadislong (talk) 13:24, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's no article named Mohsen Rabiei on English Wikipedia, @Mohsen rabi. If you think you're notable by Wikipedia's standards, you can attempt to write an article about yourself by following the instructions at Help:Your first article, but creating an autobiography here is very difficult and strongly discouraged. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Autobiography Wiki Page Disclosure[edit]

I created a wiki page for myself (Draft:Desirée Shahnaz Townsend) as a large news organization will be publishing a follow-up to my story next week and wanted a reliable source for people to find information on me. I am not sure if I have the correct disclosure for an autobiography as I was the only one to edit this.

Also, I know this is not published, but am I able to ask others in the community to edit/add to this even though it is not published or can only I see it on my side?

Thanks for the advice, I am completely new to this. Desireestownsend83 (talk) 13:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Desireestownsend83, you are able to ask that. One immediate issue I see is the photograph - it has a copyright statement at the bottom in which your name does not appear. This may be a problem; the image is likely to be deleted as a copyright violation. Do you have any photos of yourself that you have taken? That is what "own work" means. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:01, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I actually have the copyright permission for this now as the owners are friends and have given an assignment to me. On that point, it might be best to have the photo updated to reflect my copyright ownership in it. Thank you for your advice! I will make that update. Desireestownsend83 (talk) 14:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Desireestownsend83, your friends will need to email Commons in order to officially (and legally) verify that they, the copyright holders, have released the image under a compatible license. Here is a link to an example email template: C:commons:Email templates. Giving you permission is not enough, they must contact Commons themselves. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful, that makes it a lot easier. Thank you so much. I will get them to do that ASAP. I appreciate your help! Desireestownsend83 (talk) 14:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Desireestownsend83, someone else may come along to comment on the sources used in your draft, but in the meantime, a related thing to work on is a conflict of interest disclosure. Instructions are at this link; in my opinion the easiest thing to do is just edit your user page (User:Desireestownsend83) and add the following bit of code (called a "template" in wiki-speak): {{UserboxCOI|1=Desirée Shahnaz Townsend}}
Visual Editor might play havoc with the formatting a bit, I'd recommend switching to source editor just this once and copy/pasting in that line of code. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Number of References for Qualifying for Wikipedia Article[edit]

I created a wiki page for myself (Draft:Desirée Shahnaz Townsend) as a large news organization will be publishing a follow-up to my story next week and wanted a reliable source for people to find information on me.

I received a rejection stating that the coverage done of me was not significant enough to qualify for a page. My question is based on the guidelines of notability of people... How many secondary published articles need to be cited to meet this criteria?

Interestingly, I was mentioned in a Wiki here: Rashid Buttar which links back to this Desiree Jennings, so this gives me the impression that the coverage was significant enough at some point if a page was created (Desiree Jennings).

Any help on the number of sources for notability would be much appreciated. Right now the only source of information is a host of inaccurate information here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Desiree_Jennings Desireestownsend83 (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is absolutely the wrong reason to create an article. Wikipedia has no deadlines and has no interest in publicity efforts. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. People should not trust Wikipedia blindly, but examine the sources provided in determining what to believe.
Your drsft was only declined, not rejected. "Rejected" has a specific meaning here, that resubmission would not be possible. Declined means it is possible. There is no specific number of references required, it depends- but to pass AFC reviewers generally look for at least three independent reliable sources to be summarized. Those sources must have significant coverage of you personally. 331dot (talk) 14:54, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point, but from my perspective, in an effort to try and clear up the disinformation surrounding the anti-vaccine movement, this is incredibly important. Too many people may have not received vaccines because of what they "thought" happened to me. And you are right, I think too often many people do see Wikipedia as a reliable source. I know I did for sure in college, haha. Thank you for the ~ reference number and description of the type of sources. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. Desireestownsend83 (talk) 14:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Desireestownsend83 Wikipedia is never the first to report news. Hence if your "follow-up story" has not yet been published it is unlikely an article can appear here yet. Such an article needs sources from reliable, independent publications which have significant coverage of you and not just passing mentions. Please read the linked advice. In particular, note that any publication based primarily on an interview with you is not considered to be independent. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. The intention of this draft is just to have a starting point for down the line after the news piece airs so that there is something already drafted that is easy for the community to edit, add to, etc. Thank you profusely Mike for the clarification on the criteria for an independent publication. That helps to better select sources. Much appreciated! Desireestownsend83 (talk) 16:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Foris crypto .com has my money that was saposto go to crypto.com app on my phone how do I get my money back it was sent to the wrong place[edit]

my fund were sent to the wrong crypto.com place how do I greet my money bak to my crypto.com app on my phone

2605:8D80:405:1AC8:61BF:96D:2D94:FE66 (talk) 17:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This help desk is for questions about Wikipedia. We can't help with other matters. RudolfRed (talk) 17:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Captcha[edit]

My captcha not solve I was write a captcha but again again come why this problem please solve this problem Beautyshop1 (talk) 17:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One common mistake (I have made it myself) is to write your answer in the CAPTCHA box and then click the button just to the right of it. Do not do this.
Instead, move or scroll down the page to the "Publish changes" button and click that.
The "Publish changes" button is really the "Save changes" button, but "Save" was changed to "Publish" a while ago for legal reasons.
The button next to the CAPTCHA box is a "Refresh" button. If you are unable to solve the offered CAPTCHA you use this to get a new one to solve, so clicking it does not submit your solution, it just offers you a different CAPTCHA.
If this is not the problem you are having, perhaps someone else can help. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 01:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

password[edit]

I have forgotten my password and I wanted to sign in to change my phone number. My old phone number is now invalid.

I cannot login because I forgot my password.I need to change my password to log my new phone number so I can receive and confirm verification code. 84.68.107.6 (talk) 19:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia accounts are not associated with a phone number, so perhaps you are asking on the wrong page. If you do need to change your Wikipedia password, and you have an email account assigned to the account, you can do a password reset at Special:PasswordReset RudolfRed (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Black Irish[edit]

I came across Wikipedia's definition of "Black Irish" in the 21st century: "A black person living in Ireland". and that the 19th and 20th century definition was black haired light eyed Irish people of possibly Spanish decent. Well, my father was black Irish and I am alive in the 21st Century and by your definition, I no longer exist. To say I was rather upset is putting it mildly. Eachai (talk) 22:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say about a topic. If those sources are not current, please offer on the talk page sources with more current information. 331dot (talk) 23:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you read both articles? Black Irish and Black Irish (folklore)? Knitsey (talk) 23:08, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Eachai The first link includes the statement "Black Irish" is an officially recognised term used by the Irish government every 5 years during the census. The last census form confirms this: see this census form. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]