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Rollback rights

I am looking to reduce vandalism. What requirements are there for me to qualify to be a roll backer? I have been turned down in the past, so I wonder what I am missing? Pablothepenguin (talk) 00:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Pablothepenguin You have applied for rollback five times: Nov 2014, May 2017, Dec 2017, August 2018, and July 2022. Looking at the reasons for the recent denial, they wanted "recent anti-vandalism work". I would only re-apply for rollback if you can demonstrate recent and substantial anti-vandalism work. — Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Pablothepenguin. Please read Wikipedia:Rollback. As an administrator, I have the rollback right as a matter of course. I very rarely use it. In my opinion, it is a blunt tool that too often tempts editors to act rashly. Instead, I go to the edit history and find the most recent unvandalized version of the article and revert to that version. If two vandals, or a vandal and their sockpuppets have been messing around with an article, rollback may only remove some but not all of the vandalism. Cullen328 (talk) 01:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Cullen328, I have noted your comments and have decided that I should pursue administrator status. I have unfortunately been turned down for that too, so I am convinced that I haven’t been doing enough editing to be given these powers. May I assume that I’ll need a few thousand more edits and some experience at assisting less experienced users? Is there anything else I would need for that? I hope to some day be able to help with this Wiki’s maintenance and upkeep. Pablothepenguin (talk) 15:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but Pablo, I'd recommend reading WP:RFAADVICE. Among other things, successful candidates usually have thousands of edits, while I see you barely have one thousand at this time. My personal recommendation would be to give it another six months of active editing and then check your edit count before going any further down that road. DonIago (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Pablothepenguin: If you don't use it already, you might want to check out Twinkle, which can be used to revert vandalism edits and leave warnings on the users' talk pages. GoingBatty (talk) 01:59, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

...and also RedWarn, which does a similar thing. 💜  melecie  talk - 02:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

• Pablo: A further word of advice: You're averaging probably a dozen article edits per year: [1]. I would expect a minimum of a few hundred such edits in a year before considering approving advanced permissions. --Jayron32 15:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if this will be helpful: but my experience has been that it's better to interact with Wikipedia as a regular user rather than seeking adminship or extra tools. For example, if countering vandalism is what you want to do, go ahead and fight vandalism with reverts. And do a lot of it. Once it's visibly the case that that's how you're spending your time, and that you're doing it responsibly and well, then it will be easier to ask for permission to use tools - if, indeed, you feel you really need them by that stage. AndyJones (talk) 13:07, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

How do I use Template:Episode table (/list)?

I mess around in my sandbox and I was wondering how do i use the episode table/list? BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE (talk) 02:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I would refer to Template:Episode list. It looks like your start is correct. What specifically did you need? Heart ^(talk) 02:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE: Hi there! There are instructions and examples at Template:Episode table and Template:Episode list. I also find it helpful to look at an article that uses the templates (e.g. Succession (TV series)). If you give us a more specific question, we could try to give you a more specific response. GoingBatty (talk) 02:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Here is my best answer to your question: The episode table/list is made specifically to add a header row to the column. You do this by clicking the "add list" at the top. Hopefully I got this information correct. Please give use more info for a better response. 76.149.147.84 (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I already tested it out on the page "Game of Thrones (season 1)" but it left me confused and a bit frustrated. I'll update you if I have any questions. BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE (talk) 18:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Where is the "Add list" part? BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE (talk) 18:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Pictures on articles

Hi! I often search for pictures to illustrate my lessons and I use only copyright free material. I'm quite surprised that many pictures on Wikipedia don't look very good. Yet there are plenty of websites with copyright free pictures to choose from.

A good example is the article bee versus this beautiful copyright free picture on Pexels .

My question is: is it allowed to change pictures to make the articles better looking?171.224.177.118 (talk) 02:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! Yes, you are allowed to upload pictures and change pictures to make articles better looking, as long as you follow the Wikipedia:Image use policy and the picture has the appropriate free license tag, such as the CC0 tag this image has. I enjoy using the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard, which would upload the image to Wikimedia Commons. (Note there are thousands of pictures of bees already uploaded to Commons.) Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

References

please help

I am Chinese, this Wikipedia

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E4%B8%8A%E6%9C%80%E4%B8%8D%E5%AE%89%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA

will be delete but the Wikipedia It was quite famous at the time, but a lot of related information was deleted, so I hope everyone can help. 114.37.212.128 (talk) 06:14, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

This is the English language Wikipedia. The Chinese language Wikipedia is a separate project with separate policies and separate administrators. We cannot help you here with problems on another project. Cullen328 (talk) 06:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! Try the Chinese Wikipedia help desk at zh:Wikipedia:互助客栈/求助. GoingBatty (talk) 13:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Closing the spaces between refs

I did a search and found approximately 33,000 occurences of </ref> <ref (which would generate a space between two reference numbers above [5] [6] instead of [5][6]. Is there any reason why those should be kept? If not, would a request on WP:BOTREQ be appropriate? (If there were only 500-1000, I'd use WP:AWB, but 33,000 seems like the level for a bot) Naraht (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Is it actually a problem? I suspect Wikipedia:If it ain't broke, don't fix it may apply here. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

It's not much of a problem. It's like mis-spelling a word. I still remove the space when I happen to notice it. Maproom (talk) 09:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Me too. It's not a great problem, but slightly wrong and looks untidy. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

It has to do with WP:REFSPACE. It's not something that's going mean the end of Wikipedia if left unaddressed, but it's probably something that should eventually be cleaned up. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

It's listed at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes#FixReferenceTags (FixReferenceTags) so many cases are fixed by AutoWikiBrowser when somebody uses it anyway on affected pages. I think the issue is too small for a dedicated bot run per Wikipedia:Bots/Dictionary#Cosmetic edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the clear answer. Part of AWBs cleanup already, but doesn't reach the level of *need* to fix based on the rules. A reason to get back to AWB. :) Naraht (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Chronophilia

Reference help requested. I'm not exactly sure of the precise formatting style required to note the journal. Here is the link ( https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293334555_Hebephilic_Sexual_Offending ) to the research paper, which also gives all of the information for the book that the article by Dr.s Seto & Skye was originally published in: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293334555_Hebephilic_Sexual_Offending . If you could please make the proper reference/citation corrections, it would be greatly appreciated. And here is further reference information.(January 2016 DOI:10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3 In book: Sexual offenders: Predisposing antecedents, assessments, and management (pp.29-44)Publisher: SpringerEditors: Amy Phenix, Harry Hoberman Authors: Skye Stephens at Saint Mary's University Michael C Seto at University of Ottawa). Again, thank you for all your help. I have provided accurate information in good faith, but sometimes the technical formatting of this site can be a little tricky. Thank you again for your time and support. Thanks, 2601:14D:4101:E4E0:75BC:F097:F2D0:3BF9 (talk) 09:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

IP editor. I would recommend that you create an account an install the WP:Citation expander. This converts digital object identifiers pretty relaibly into full citations. For the book, using the doi you provided, this gives {{cite book |doi=10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3 |chapter=Hebephilic Sexual Offending |title=Sexual Offending |year=2016 |last1=Stephens |first1=Skye |last2=Seto |first2=Michael C. |pages=29–43 |isbn=978-1-4939-2415-8 }} which renders as Stephens, Skye; Seto, Michael C. (2016). "Hebephilic Sexual Offending". Sexual Offending. pp. 29–43. doi:10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3. ISBN 978-1-4939-2415-8.. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:37, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I note that Genericusername57 has reverted a number of edits on that article, including yours, so you need to develop a WP:CONSENSUS on its Talk Page for what should be included. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:48, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Formatting a table next to an infobox

Hi all, I've been struggling with the formatting at 2022–23 WCHA women's ice hockey season, any help would be appreciated. I've been trying to use Template:Stack to make the narrow table and infobox show side-by-side, to no avail. Maybe there's something I'm missing. Thanks! Wracking ^💬 16:51, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@Wracking: I removed the stack templates, and the table is now displayed side-by-side with the infobox. Is that what you're looking for? GoingBatty (talk) 17:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty It might just be my display– my laptop's screen might be too small :P I'll trust that your edits did what I was looking for :] Thanks! Wracking ^💬 17:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Kevin John Conway (from Canada)

why do you not have a wiki page for Kevin John Conway of British Columbia? He was in Titanic 1996 and Atomic Train 1999. Clux327 (talk) 19:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Clux. The answer to the question "Why do you not have an article on ... " is usually "Because none of thousands of vounteer editors, such as you and me, have chosen to write one." Sometimes the answer is "Because somebody has thought of writing one, and looked for reliable sources and couldn't find enough to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. And occasionally the answer is "There was an article, but it was deleted because it was not appropriate".

If you think that there is is enough material published about Conway to ground an article, you're welcome to try - though I should warn you that writing an article is one of the most difficult tasks there is for new editors. My suggestion would be that you hang around for a few weeks or months, finding existing articles that you are interested in and making improvements, and thereby learning how Wikipedia works. Then when you are ready, study your first article, and see if you can find suitable sources and write a draft from them. ColinFine (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Is there's a way to find low res images in an article list.

I have a list of articles that I want to scan for low res images (i.e. has image width <400px, height <300px). I want the tool to return the images and the article that the images are contained in. Is it even possible to do so? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 23:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)