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Picture copyright question

Hi folks. Does anyone know if it is OK for German Ministry of Defence pictures to be uploaded on Wikipedia. There is picture on the English and German language pages about Operation Harekate Yolo. [1] Does anyone know if the copyright is OK, and if it is how the picture should be correctly labelled? source

I believe there is a valid reason for having the picture. But the copyright rules and wikipedia’s ‘explanation’ confuse me at the best of the times.

Thanks, Chwyatt (talk) 09:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

There is no public domain in the German legal code, however, I asked them whether they wouldn't mind us using the images because there is a law prohibiting the use of other people's images. Wandalstouring (talk) 13:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

You can still link directly to the images using Template:Externalimages if they do object or not reply. Wandalstouring (talk) 13:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, didn't know you could link to external images. Chwyatt (talk) 16:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The official reply: No the images are property of the Bundeswehr and may not be used

For details see below:

vielen Dank für Ihre freundliche E-Mail, die ich Ihnen gerne beantworte.

Die auf unseren Seiten veröffentlichten Bilder und Dokumente sind nicht frei verfügbar. Im Rahmen der persönlichen Information können Sie diese sicher verwenden. Eine weitergehende Verwendung (gewerblich oder als Einstellung in einem eigenen Internetauftritt) ist hingegen nicht statthaft, da die Rechte an den Dokumenten bei der Bundeswehr liegen oder von der Bundeswehr für diesen Zweck eingekauft worden sind.

In der Hoffnung hinreichend geantwortet zu haben, stehe ich für weitere Fragen gerne zur Verfügung und verbleibe,

Mit freundlichen Grüßen Im Auftrag

Tobias Schubert Hauptmann und Presseoffizier Diplom-Kaufmann

Anfrage:

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Betreff: Bildrechte

Anfrage: Sind die Bilder auf der Internetseite der Bundeswehr frei verfügbar im Sinne von public domain oder bestehen rechtliche Beschränkungen?

Wandalstouring (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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Volksgebirgs

What exactly do you mean by: **Volksgebirgs → do not translate, and treat as a foreign term outside unit names ??? Lars 13:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Obviously the 1. Gebirgsdivision was rebuilt as 1. Volksgebirgsdivision, cf. List of German divisions in World War II where you find 1st Mountain Division (later 1st Volksgebirgs Division). Most interesting, this rebuild is not mentioned in the article itself. Wschroedter (talk) 15:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Italics for U-boat names

We've been having a discussion at WikiProject Ships in regard to the use of italics for U-boat names. All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion here — Bellhalla (talk) 11:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Volks-Sturm vs. Volkssturm

I move the discussion about the a.m. terms to this page where it belongs, and change the project page to reflect the actual outcome (which I support). Wschroedter (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Volks-Sturm → do not translate, and take care not to spell it as Volkssturm

(why? that is the correct German term)

in some context this may refer to the migration period:

No, this is wrong. In Germany nobody knows about Volks-Sturm! It is spelled Volkssturm. What You mean is Völkerwanderung.

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Comments please: Jagdgeschwader 1 (World War II)

Hello!

I am working on taking this article to A-Class (Currently B) and it is currently undergoing a peer review. All comments (and help) will be very much appreciated. perseus71 (talk) 15:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Soviet-German WWII operations

The longstanding and inclusive debates about naming Soviet-German WWII operations have been consolidated into one discussion, with a proposal to move 36 articles. As the outcome of the discussion will probably resolve this, all interested editors are urged to comment here. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 10:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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Proposed move

There is a proposal to move List of U-boats to List of German U-boats All interested editors are welcome to participate in the discussion. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:56, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Greater Poland Uprising (1848) nominated for deletion

The article Greater Poland Uprising (1848) has been nominated for deletion. Editors who wish to comment or vote on this nomination are invited to do so in the AfD discussion. Nick-D (talk) 06:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Article for deletion

Hi an MILHIST article has been put up for AFD Karl Brommann. The reason seem to be around if a Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipient is notable? any input from the project would be appriciated. The AFD entry is here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karl Brommann Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:52, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Help needed - identifying German WWII rangefinders

Hello. I think this is the appropriate place to ask for some help. Could someone help me identify the models of the German range-finders used in some pictures on Commons? E.g., is this (the remains of) an Entfernungsmesser 34? There's also a ton of Bundesarchiv pictures. Just have look at commons:Category:Rangefinders and/or search for "entfernungsmesser" to get the uncategorized images. I can do the category work, I just need some information. Thank you. --Daggerstab (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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German-speaker (or -writer) needed…

This is sort of indirectly military-related, but can someone fluent in German help me out? I noticed the addition of de:SS Volturno to the article SS Volturno (1906) and glanced at the German article. In it, they note that SMS Seydlitz, a Kaiserliche Marine cruiser, rescued 46 survivors. The ship that actually participated in the rescue was the 1903 SS Seydlitz, a Norddeutscher Lloyd steamer. A source to that effect is:

Drechsel, Edwin (1994). Norddeutscher Lloyd, Bremen, 1857–1970: History, Fleet, Ship Mails. Vancouver, British Columbia: Cordillera Pub. Co. ISBN 9781895590081. OCLC 30357825.

Since I only read and write "Google German", I'm hoping someone who knows proper German can either mention this on the talk page there or add it to the article. Thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 14:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

A-Class review for SMS Seydlitz now open

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A-Class review for Operation Charnwood now open

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A-Class review for SM UB-10 now open

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Category:Panzer commanders and aces

Category:Panzer commanders and aces has been proposed to be split into Category:Panzer commanders and Category:Panzer aces. See Category talk:Panzer commanders and aces#Split.

76.66.196.218 (talk) 11:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

A-Class review for SM UB-14 now open

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A-Class review for Albert Kesselring now open

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A-Class review for Sd.Kfz. 10 now open

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Peer review for German battleship Bismarck now open

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A-Class review for Kaiser class battleship now open

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Nazi rule over the Danube River

You are invited to add military information to the above article, which now has only political content. In addition, I am not sure if the article title would be accurate if military info were so added. You might want to call it German operations on the Danube; I don't know. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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A-Class review for SMS Blücher now open

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A-Class review for König class battleship now open

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German Imperial Military Cabinet

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Renaming discussion

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Article title discussion at Battle between HMAS Sydney and German auxiliary cruiser Kormoran

The title of the article Battle between HMAS Sydney and German auxiliary cruiser Kormoran is currently under discussion at Talk:Battle between HMAS Sydney and German auxiliary cruiser Kormoran. Most of the comments so far have been in regards to Australian sources; there is no common name for the battle in these sources, and most refer to the battle as the loss of the Australian cruiser (i.e. "Loss of HMAS Sydney") or with a descriptive phrase naming both combatants (like the current article title). No German sources have been referred to so far, and I am wondering if anyone knows what the action is known as in Germany, or if the German approach is similar to the Australian approach.

Thanks in advance for your effort. -- saberwyn 23:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)