Talk:1930 World Snooker Championship

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Review: July 3, 2021. (Reviewed version).

Snooker High‑importance

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Cue sports Mid‑importance

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

Note: To watchlist this to-do list, click on "watch" at top right of this table. Watching the page it is transcluded on won't watch the to-do list.

England Low‑importance

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GA Review[edit]

Passed GA

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:1930 World Snooker Championship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 13:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Links[edit]

Ref 17 is broken. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:16, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prose[edit]

Lede[edit]

Lede feels a little light Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:04, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded it - let me know what you think. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Link snooker? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:04, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
link Joe Davis? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:04, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link World snooker Championship Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:04, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lede doesn't mention the format (6 participants), etc.
Should also mention who ran the event Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:04, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed the five points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General[edit]

Relink "Guinea (British coin)" to Guinea (coin) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary heats - probably needs explaining Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you mention how many entries there were and the format in background.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the para from Summary to Background BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No need to disambiguate Fred Lawrence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suprised we don't have an article for Nat Butler. Might be on a to-do list. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Davis and Dennis received byes into the semi-finals - any idea why? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the draw was random, as in at least one other year around that time it's mentioned that the matches would be played based on geographical proximity. Davis and Dennis had the best records, I guess, but I can't find any source for the reason. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could probably split the summary into the individual rounds. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

professional billiards championship - link/full name? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's a wikilink in summary. Name amended slightly in both places to reflect sources. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thurston's Hall, Leicester Square, London - haven't we already talked about Thurston's Hall, do we need a full address? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Davis scored an average of 113.14 points per visit, described in The Billiard Player as "by far the best ever returned in a championship match." -I'm not convinced this makes sense. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed part about points average. Not essential for this article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments[edit]

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, Lee Vilenski. I've responded above. Let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 07:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shame there is no info on the draw, but otherwise grand. Passing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:06, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.