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117.216.241.46 (talk) 14:57, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Covering Districts in schedule is incorrect. pl. once again check and correct it

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:33, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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LJP

Hi, what should we do about LJP? It says its in NDA, but not contesting on only 100 (243-143=100) seats, whereas BJP contesting 110 alone. That means its not even in alliance with BJP either. Should we add LJP as "outside support"? -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 07:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

"Outside support" is more inaccurate since they are not outside the NDA, they have said that they will support BJP so I think BJP aligned (as opposed to allied) is more appropriate. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 11:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Very confusing. -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 15:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Added third front

There seems to be removal of sourced content by users. I have added third front with lot of reliable sources. If anyone have issue plz discuss here.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, I was the one who removed all the smaller parties and alliances and condensed them into the section called "Others". It was becoming a indiscriminate list of every contesting party which happens to get itself on a news report. As it stands, there are at least two alliances which can be called "third front", none of which are unanimously termed so. It's undue to give precedence to one alliance over the others and also to dedicate to each of them equivalent coverage as the major alliance. Please also see WP:NOTNEWS. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 11:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

I know about WP:NOTNEWS policy but in the meantime i saw media itself using third front for this particular alliance. Provided BSP and AIMIM hold importance in their respective states.Also in a recent article this alliance was tauted as the third most prominent one given its past voting percentage. I m still of the idea that there will be more content from new sources to give precedence to it as Hindi newspapers are seperately covering them as for example Dainik Bhaskar.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:25, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, So do Shiv Sena and Jharkhand Mukti Morcha but that's irrelevant for Bihar. Most of the sources that are cited in the section currently refer to it as "yet another front" or "new front" which in any case has a specific name (GDSA). Tayi Arajakate _Talk 11:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

• Shiv Sena and others are really not covered by local media to the extent of GDSF. See Heba Aisha (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

An articles here and there separately covering them is in not equivalent to the consistent exclusive coverage the major alliances receive, you can also find similar articles on other parties and alliances. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 11:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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The third front

"जाति की राजनीति:बिहार विधानसभा चुनाव में 3 चरण में 100 से अधिक सीटों पर लड़ेगी रालोसपा, 40% होंगे कुशवाहा प्रत्याशी". Dainik Bhaskar. Retrieved 2020-10-11. Trans.:In the assembly elections, political parties are putting up more candidates for their base vote castes. The RLSP, the main constituent of the Grand Democratic Secular Front, considers the Kushwaha (Koeri) society its base vote. This front consists of 6 parties. Of these, RALOSPA will contest the most seats. The party will contest elections on more than 100 seats, including 40% Kushwaha candidates. The RLSP has fielded candidates for 42 seats in the first phase, of which 17 are Kushwaha candidates.

I can't stop the regular coverage it receive in Hindi newspapers regarding its seat sharing and candidates.Something missing for others. See todays newspaper they have discussed candidates RLSP fielded.IF you can present similar coverage for others i will be satisfied that we should not give special place to them.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:43, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

In the source above they even gave list of their candidates something they are not doing for shiv sena and JAP.I have not copied list due to WP:Copyvio but u can glance through it.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, that's an incomplete list of only RLSP candidates and not in its entirety which only lists Kushwaha candidate due to the exceptional number of them fielded by the party. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 11:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

I will bring others too. I was just giving example. For now i have reverted your latest edits as using WP:Burden or onus at this place was wrong as issue is not of Verifiability.If you want i can open WP:Rfc here as others too want its inclusion as seperate front.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, WP:ONUS is separate from WP:BURDEN. Burden refers to verifiability of content while onus specifically states that verifiability does not guarantee inclusion and that "The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." Tayi Arajakate _Talk 12:23, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

I have opened Rfc.....lets see it there.The discussion can go for 30 days till then if anyone removes that section it mean WP:Vandalism as rules say. See u in Rfc below.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

No its Wrong Step Its Necessary that Small Alliance is also Mention Because it make more informative Give information about that and Seat share GDSF is Necessary to include Its Third largest Alliance include them TATHAGAT586 (talk) 09:25, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Rfc about keeping RLSP and its alliance as a seperate front in tabular form and not representing candidates in constituency list?

We should keep RLSP and its alliance called Grand Democratic Secular Front in tabular form or not.?..i want as enough coverage in media seperately.Heba Aisha (talk) 12:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

• Tayi Arajakate even if i consider ur statement of not giving importance to small parties as genuine what explaination do you have for removal of names of candidates of other parties from the constituencies. Some of them can win and may go up as second runner up. So why are u keeping only NDA and Mahagathbandhan members while removing names of others from list of candidates.?Heba Aisha (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Because we can not list all the individual candidates who are contesting the elections. Each constituency can have over a dozen candidates who are not in either the NDA or MGB, a few of whom might win or come up as runners up regardless of if they are in the GDSF. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 00:34, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

ok got it....but basically as of now only 4 alliance exist which are important NDA Mahagathbandhan GDSF and Pappu Yadav led front...all other parties and names are not famous. Plz can't we add candidates of these four front only in in list as newspapers have published them but not for more than 50 other parties. Think onceHeba Aisha (talk) 02:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I mean, even adding 2 more columns to that chart is going to be difficult to fit in. There are also two other well known parties like JMM and Shiv Sena that would have to be included if we include these. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 03:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Shiv Sena is a Maharashtra state party and JMM is Jharkhand state party. Whereas RLSP is a Bihar state party, AIMIM has a legislator and BSP is national party. All these three constituent party of the GDSF are notable enough to be included as a third major coalition. -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 05:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Those are just technical classification of the Indian bureaucracy which doesn't translate into equivalent coverage of individual formations or parties in reliable sources for the purpose of determining due weight. For instance despite whatever official classifications the parties in GDSA and PDA may have, they have received similar coverage in relation with the 2020 Bihar election. Not to mention none of these have received anywhere near the same coverage as NDA or MGB. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 06:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

If there was a hyped up formation in the media with extensive coverage which was seen as a prospective contender comparable to the major ones, then perhaps there'd be due weight but that simply isn't present here. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 06:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Candidates of GDSF
"www.bhaskar.com" [RLSP Issued Candidates List For 42 Constituencies] (in Hindi). 8 October 2020.

In case u change ur mind...u can add candidates name. Here is the source.Heba Aisha (talk) 02:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Agree with Manasbose and plz see hindi newspapers too.They are fed up with coverage to GDSF and i hope vote percentage also speaks a lot. I don't know why Lok Janshakti Party is added seperately then if we cant cover an alliance of 6 parties.If you think so LJP candidates should also be removed from the list as it is somewhat near to RLSP in status.Heba Aisha (talk) 06:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Lok Janshakti Party should also be treated in the same manner and it should be removed. To act fairly. As i don't think its going to do miracle or GDSF had received less coverage than it.Atleast Wikipedia shouldn't run like indian newschannels whose sanctity is challenged nowadays becauae of collusion with major political parties and don't forget recent TRP issue.Heba Aisha (talk) 07:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I mean, even adding 2 more columns to that chart is going to be difficult to fit in. For this statement of urs. This is not a matter to think as after results you or other will add seperate column to show people from other parties who won in the winner list apart from those who lost from NDA and Mahagathbandhan.Heba Aisha (talk) 07:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

TATHAGAT586 keep ur view here. A discussion is already here I also want its inclusion and Manasbosetoo.Heba Aisha (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2020

I want to add a link for online voting poll, in the reaction section as it is showing as empty Kiyaan2018 (talk) 05:28, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Goldsztajn (talk) 06:27, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 Comment: Reaction section is for after the election is over. Generally statements of congratulations from other state executives or foreign executives, or media coverage of the results and results alone. -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 08:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

GDSF

GDSF Candidate also include on this Because It Larger than LJP Is Necessary that GDSF Candidate Also include on this page And Give Them place on Result TATHAGAT586 (talk) 17:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

GFSF

MENTIONE GDSF Candidate also it is Necessary on this page to make more Informable TATHAGAT586 (talk) 09:22, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

GDSF

Behind of LJP its Necessary to include GDSF Candidate its third Largest alliance in Bihaar And Contest on all seates So include their candidate also its necessary TATHAGAT586 (talk) 09:28, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

I have told you to write in that section Rfc on.....not to create many threads., Heba Aisha (talk) 01:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Check your notification you will be redirected to GSDF delition page.Make comments there as Tayi Arajakate wants to delete that article.Heba Aisha (talk) 01:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Result summary

On Result summary you not Include Other Option And What about PDA Alliance Jap Party TATHAGAT586 (talk) 09:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

GDSF

Upload GDSF Candidate also It Is necessary Please Take step TATHAGAT586 (talk) 18:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Exclusion of Parties from the Infobox

It doesn't make sense to include 9 parties in an election infobox. In this page not more than 6 parties should be accommodated as per the election results. Inclusion of parties wining tiny portion of seats defeat the purpose of an infobox which serves as a summary. Srijanx22 (talk) 22:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Why was LJP removed? Though, it won only a seat and its vote share played a key role in reducing JDU’s tally. ChandlerMinh (talk) 05:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Infobox should have only a few parties. In my opinion, INC, CPIMLL and AIMIM could also be removed from the Infobox. -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 12:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

VIP seat contested

VIP contested 11 seats in alliance with BJP, but in Kishanganj and Sikti it fielded candidates (where BJP is already contesting). That makes a total of 13 seats. So what should we do? -- Manasbose ^{(talk | contribs)} 06:00, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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Why are JDU and BJP shown separate in infobox? BJP should be Merged with NDA with Nitish Kumar pic as leader. Venkat TL (talk) 16:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

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