Talk:Alpha Fornacis

No name on alpha[edit]

I've never ever heard that alpha should have a listed name, so I believe the current writing alleging that alpha was called Dalim or Fornacis is some kind of confusion: the label was there, but the label referred not to the star (??) but to various other features in the map, such as the constellation or something. Citation needed to examine carefully. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 06:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A search for Dalim in Palermo catalogue (aka Praecipuarum stellarum inerrantium positiones mediae ineunte saeculo xix : ex observationibus habitis in Specula Panormitana ab anno 1792 ad annum 1813) seems to indicate that there is no star name "Dalim" in it. If it is a real name, it was prob invented by Niccolò Cacciatore as usual, except there's no indication of such a star name. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 07:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also try this link to search for Algol, Rotanev and some such, to verify that it works. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 07:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright @Rursus: and @Bay Flam:, I found this. Question is, how do I know Dalim = Alpha Fornacis? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dalim: Piazzi gave Dalim for his 13th of Hora III (Pi III 13). Piazzi's "III 13" is identified with Flamsteed's 12th of Eridanus (12 Eri), and with Lacaille's α of Fornax (α For). See Kunitzsch, P., (1959) Arabische Sternnamen in Europa, p. 155, Werner, H., and Schmeidler, F., (1986) Synopsis der Nomenklatur der Fixsterne, pp. 244-245, Wagman, M., (2003) Lost Stars, pp. 153, 403-404.

Fornacis: is also appeared in the Bright Star Catalogue, query results for HR 963. --Bay Flam (talk) 04:49, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your effort. I cannot access Arabische Sternnamen in Europa regarding the relevant star number 80 "Dalim", and the vizier link does not show the name. But until I can access Arabische Sternnamen in Europa the star α For equals "Dalim". Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 13:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We have an "al Dalîm" in The Natural Genesis, Volume 2. It is in or near Eridanus, and it means the buckets. The name was invented by Ulugh Beigh, the Mongolian khan and astronomer in 1433. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 13:04, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all - I can see Dalim in the Arabische Sternnamen in Europa so am happy...good ol' Kunitzsch to the rescue :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:16, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]